[Asterisk-Users] Solution for 1 time blast of 200, 000 recorded calls

2006-02-14 Thread Ron Senykoff
Hi,

I'm helping out with a political campaign and would like to use
asterisk to blast out about 200,000 calls with a short message from
the candidate.

Provider:
I'm thinking voipjet may be a good solution?

Hardware setup:
I will have access to several T-1 lines so I would just want to set up
the dialers to limit the number of concurrent calls and so forth.

I found teleyapper on nerdvittles:
http://mundy.org/blog/index.php

But I'm not sure that this actually does concurrent calls. I'm
thinking my best bet is writing some fast agi to parse a mysql
database, then create call files. Use asterisk manager interface to
monitor calls and that way I can keep the preset concurrent limit.

Any ideas?

TIA!
-Ron
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RE: [Asterisk-Users] Solution for 1 time blast of 200, 000 recorded calls

2006-02-14 Thread Dean Collins
Yeh my advice is don't, or if you must make sure you clean your dialling
list first with the DNC list.

Yes I know that political messages don't need to obey the DNC list but
they should.

This is why I don't donate t most political campaigns.


Dean



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 Subject: [Asterisk-Users] Solution for 1 time blast of 200,000
recorded calls
 
 Hi,
 
 I'm helping out with a political campaign and would like to use
 asterisk to blast out about 200,000 calls with a short message from
 the candidate.
 
 Provider:
 I'm thinking voipjet may be a good solution?
 
 Hardware setup:
 I will have access to several T-1 lines so I would just want to set up
 the dialers to limit the number of concurrent calls and so forth.
 
 I found teleyapper on nerdvittles:
 http://mundy.org/blog/index.php
 
 But I'm not sure that this actually does concurrent calls. I'm
 thinking my best bet is writing some fast agi to parse a mysql
 database, then create call files. Use asterisk manager interface to
 monitor calls and that way I can keep the preset concurrent limit.
 
 Any ideas?
 
 TIA!
 -Ron
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Solution for 1 time blast of 200, 000 recorded calls

2006-02-14 Thread Matt Florell
How much time and hardware do you have to do this?

VICIDIAL is capable of doing this(and we have done that with VICIDIAL
in the past) with hundreds of concurrent calls if your servers can
handle it, but it takes a few hours to setup and if you are only doing
this once it may not be worth it.

MATT---


On 2/14/06, Ron Senykoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi,

 I'm helping out with a political campaign and would like to use
 asterisk to blast out about 200,000 calls with a short message from
 the candidate.

 Provider:
 I'm thinking voipjet may be a good solution?

 Hardware setup:
 I will have access to several T-1 lines so I would just want to set up
 the dialers to limit the number of concurrent calls and so forth.

 I found teleyapper on nerdvittles:
 http://mundy.org/blog/index.php

 But I'm not sure that this actually does concurrent calls. I'm
 thinking my best bet is writing some fast agi to parse a mysql
 database, then create call files. Use asterisk manager interface to
 monitor calls and that way I can keep the preset concurrent limit.

 Any ideas?

 TIA!
 -Ron
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Solution for 1 time blast of 200, 000 recorded calls

2006-02-14 Thread Peter Corlett
Ron Senykoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I'm helping out with a political campaign and would like to use asterisk
 to blast out about 200,000 calls with a short message from the candidate.

Can you tell me which party this is for, so I can ensure I never vote for
them?

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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Solution for 1 time blast of 200, 000 recorded calls

2006-02-14 Thread Dovid Bender
Voipjet should be fine however dont have all the calls
go out at once. test your system first and see how
many concurent calls you can have at once without
loosing voice quality. I would also reccomend getting
a dedicated server to do the calls as apposed to
buying the equipment if you are doing a one time thing
(it will lower your costs).

--- Ron Senykoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi,
 
 I'm helping out with a political campaign and would
 like to use
 asterisk to blast out about 200,000 calls with a
 short message from
 the candidate.
 
 Provider:
 I'm thinking voipjet may be a good solution?
 
 Hardware setup:
 I will have access to several T-1 lines so I would
 just want to set up
 the dialers to limit the number of concurrent calls
 and so forth.
 
 I found teleyapper on nerdvittles:
 http://mundy.org/blog/index.php
 
 But I'm not sure that this actually does concurrent
 calls. I'm
 thinking my best bet is writing some fast agi to
 parse a mysql
 database, then create call files. Use asterisk
 manager interface to
 monitor calls and that way I can keep the preset
 concurrent limit.
 
 Any ideas?
 
 TIA!
 -Ron
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Solution for 1 time blast of 200, 000 recorded calls

2006-02-14 Thread Ron Senykoff
 Ron Senykoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  I'm helping out with a political campaign and would like to use asterisk
  to blast out about 200,000 calls with a short message from the candidate.

 Can you tell me which party this is for, so I can ensure I never vote for
 them?

It's a basic GOTV (Get Out The Vote) drive, with just a short message
to encourage people to come out to the polls. It has nothing to do
with asking for any money, etc. Just a short message to people who
belong to the party from their candidate.

-Ron
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RE: [Asterisk-Users] Solution for 1 time blast of 200, 000 recorded calls

2006-02-14 Thread Chris Bagnall
 I'm helping out with a political campaign and would like to use 
 asterisk to blast out about 200,000 calls with a short 
 message from the candidate.

I can't speak for anyone else, but I'd find it very difficult ethically to
be involved in this, even assuming it's legal.

Check very carefully that it's legal in your jurisdiction.

Assuming you get over those hurdles, for a provider, you'd want someone with
per-second billing and no minimum call charge.

If you get free local calls within a set area and it's a local election,
consider separating your dial list out into local (i.e. free) calls and
out-of-area calls. Use the VoIP provider for the out-of-area calls, and your
T1s for local calls.

200,000 calls isn't too bad if you're prepared to space it over a period of
time. If you're looking to target homes, you'll probably be aiming for times
from 6pm - 8pm during the working week (after people get home, but before
the kids go to bed), so if you wanted to do it over 2 weeks (20 hour window)
you'd need to process 10,000 calls an hour, or 166 calls a minute. There was
a discussion on the list recently about dimensioning for systems capable of
500 concurrent calls, which may be worth a read.

Regards,

Chris
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C.M. Bagnall, Director, Minotaur I.T. Limited
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Solution for 1 time blast of 200, 000 recorded calls

2006-02-14 Thread asterisk

On Tue, 14 Feb 2006, Ron Senykoff wrote:

I'm helping out with a political campaign and would like to use
asterisk to blast out about 200,000 calls with a short message from
the candidate.


there is a special place in hell reserved for people who do this.

my advice: don't.

-Dan
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Solution for 1 time blast of 200, 000 recorded calls

2006-02-14 Thread asterisk

On Tue, 14 Feb 2006, Ron Senykoff wrote:

It's a basic GOTV (Get Out The Vote) drive, with just a short message
to encourage people to come out to the polls. It has nothing to do
with asking for any money, etc. Just a short message to people who
belong to the party from their candidate.


I just did a quick office poll and everyone agreed if a party candidate 
did this to them, they would vote for the candidate's opponent. The office 
is rarely unanimous in political matters so this was a pretty interesting 
result to me.


I'm pretty sure the feeling is universal.

Like I said there is a special place in hell for people who do this. 
Unsolicited is unsolicited, no matter the content. The last thing people 
want is an unsolicited call from a _politician_.


-Dan
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Solution for 1 time blast of 200, 000 recorded calls

2006-02-14 Thread Ron Senykoff
 I just did a quick office poll and everyone agreed if a party candidate
 did this to them, they would vote for the candidate's opponent. The office
 is rarely unanimous in political matters so this was a pretty interesting
 result to me.

 I'm pretty sure the feeling is universal.

 Like I said there is a special place in hell for people who do this.
 Unsolicited is unsolicited, no matter the content. The last thing people
 want is an unsolicited call from a _politician_.


If you want to rant about politics, take it to the right forum.
alt.politics If you want to PM me, go for it. But don't turn this
professional VoIP forum into your own soapbox.
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Solution for 1 time blast of 200, 000 recorded calls

2006-02-14 Thread Kyle Hagan

Here in Arizona I have gotten recorded calls from politicians.
There are apps to allow for this feature. If you want to know more 
contact me offline.


Kyle
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RE: [Asterisk-Users] Solution for 1 time blast of 200, 000 recorded calls

2006-02-14 Thread Wai Wu
Yes. I have customers doing that all the time. They are service provider 
specialize in political campages. Going back to topic, it he is only doing this 
one time, why doesn't just find a service provider company to do it.

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Bagnall
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Subject: RE: [Asterisk-Users] Solution for 1 time blast of 200,000
recorded calls


 I'm helping out with a political campaign and would like to use 
 asterisk to blast out about 200,000 calls with a short 
 message from the candidate.

I can't speak for anyone else, but I'd find it very difficult ethically to
be involved in this, even assuming it's legal.

Check very carefully that it's legal in your jurisdiction.

Assuming you get over those hurdles, for a provider, you'd want someone with
per-second billing and no minimum call charge.

If you get free local calls within a set area and it's a local election,
consider separating your dial list out into local (i.e. free) calls and
out-of-area calls. Use the VoIP provider for the out-of-area calls, and your
T1s for local calls.

200,000 calls isn't too bad if you're prepared to space it over a period of
time. If you're looking to target homes, you'll probably be aiming for times
from 6pm - 8pm during the working week (after people get home, but before
the kids go to bed), so if you wanted to do it over 2 weeks (20 hour window)
you'd need to process 10,000 calls an hour, or 166 calls a minute. There was
a discussion on the list recently about dimensioning for systems capable of
500 concurrent calls, which may be worth a read.

Regards,

Chris
-- 
C.M. Bagnall, Director, Minotaur I.T. Limited
This email is made from 100% recycled electrons


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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Solution for 1 time blast of 200, 000 recorded calls

2006-02-14 Thread Darren Wiebe
Well, I'm not real sure on whether I like the idea or not bug   
Anyway, here is an app that I wrote for something similar to this.  It 
was for notifying customers of events,etc.  
http://www.astpp.org/index.php?n=Misc.AutoDialOut


Darren Wiebe
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Ron Senykoff wrote:


Hi,

I'm helping out with a political campaign and would like to use
asterisk to blast out about 200,000 calls with a short message from
the candidate.

Provider:
I'm thinking voipjet may be a good solution?

Hardware setup:
I will have access to several T-1 lines so I would just want to set up
the dialers to limit the number of concurrent calls and so forth.

I found teleyapper on nerdvittles:
http://mundy.org/blog/index.php

But I'm not sure that this actually does concurrent calls. I'm
thinking my best bet is writing some fast agi to parse a mysql
database, then create call files. Use asterisk manager interface to
monitor calls and that way I can keep the preset concurrent limit.

Any ideas?

TIA!
-Ron
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ASTPP - Open Source Voip Billing  Calling Cards
www.aleph-com.net/astpp

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RE: [Asterisk-Users] Solution for 1 time blast of 200, 000 recorded calls

2006-02-14 Thread Rusty Shackleford

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 Peter Corlett
 Sent: Tuesday, February 14, 2006 9:01 AM
 To: asterisk-users@lists.digium.com
 Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] Solution for 1 time blast of 
 200,000 recorded calls
 
 
 Ron Senykoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  I'm helping out with a political campaign and would like to use 
  asterisk to blast out about 200,000 calls with a short message from 
  the candidate.
 
 Can you tell me which party this is for, so I can ensure I 
 never vote for them?

Do your fellow citizens a favor and just don't vote, period. Anyone who
would make a decsision as important as voting for a political office or
issue, based solely on party affiliation or worse, the questionable
antics of one individual (with plans to VOIP-SPAM 200,000 people), can
not be trusted with such an important responsibility.

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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Solution for 1 time blast of 200, 000 recorded calls

2006-02-14 Thread Ron Senykoff
Thanks for all your responses. The reason we would not go through a
provider is that I run Asterisk phone systems, we have access to
bandwidth, and I can do this myself for a fraction of the cost.

Cheers
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