[Asterisk-Users] Still looking for small fxo sip gateway
I've been looking around for a small external sip fxo gateway, sending emails to possible vendors, etc, and can not seem to come up with anything that fits. Suggestions anyone? (No channel bank T1 card suggestions, please. I've also just completed an eval of the Mediatrix 1204 which does not support the requirements.) The market between two fxo pstn lines (pair of x100p's) and something around four to six lines seems to be lacking, or I'm looking in the wrong search engine (or something). I fully understand the economics of when a channel bank and T1 card becomes cost effective, including the eBay costs (and risks), etc. I've also heard the comments for months now that Digium is/will be selling something real-soon-now. Specifically, I'd like to use a 4-port fxo sip gateway capable of supporting four US pstn analog lines, CallerID, Touchtone, loop style supervision, and have the capability for asterisk to direct an outbound call to a specific port on that gateway. I think that implies each port must execute a sip register command successfully. It's also expected to accept incoming pstn calls directing those to a single asterisk. (I don't care about an IP dialtone, nat, etc, just a plain-jane two-way sip gateway.) If anyone is designing such a box and need professional eval, we can certainly work with you privately (off list to radamson @ routers dot com) to accomidate those needs. Anyone seen such a beast at a reasonable price? Rich ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
RE: [Asterisk-Users] Still looking for small fxo sip gateway
Title: RE: [Asterisk-Users] Still looking for small fxo sip gateway You might want to take a look on the Wiki pages for VoIP, in particular: http://www.voip-info.org/wiki-VoIP+Gateways Offhand at our site we're trying to set up something similar (although a little larger, 10 FXO lines, but no requirement to pick which line the call goes out... our 10 lines are all overlines). Our Vegastream 50 FXO shipped yesterday (or perhaps this morning), so we should be getting it in a day or two. (BTW: I'm in Canada) There's been rumours posted to this list that Digium is coming out with a higher-density FXO card, and Woody mentioned a Voicetronix Openline12, which appears to be a 12-port FXO card. And I believe that Intel/Dialogic puts out some multiport FXS/FXO cards... -Original Message- From: Rich Adamson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2004 6:15 AM To: Asterisk-a-users-list Subject: [Asterisk-Users] Still looking for small fxo sip gateway I've been looking around for a small external sip fxo gateway, sending emails to possible vendors, etc, and can not seem to come up with anything that fits. Suggestions anyone? (No channel bank T1 card suggestions, please. I've also just completed an eval of the Mediatrix 1204 which does not support the requirements.) The market between two fxo pstn lines (pair of x100p's) and something around four to six lines seems to be lacking, or I'm looking in the wrong search engine (or something). I fully understand the economics of when a channel bank and T1 card becomes cost effective, including the eBay costs (and risks), etc. I've also heard the comments for months now that Digium is/will be selling something real-soon-now. Specifically, I'd like to use a 4-port fxo sip gateway capable of supporting four US pstn analog lines, CallerID, Touchtone, loop style supervision, and have the capability for asterisk to direct an outbound call to a specific port on that gateway. I think that implies each port must execute a sip register command successfully. It's also expected to accept incoming pstn calls directing those to a single asterisk. (I don't care about an IP dialtone, nat, etc, just a plain-jane two-way sip gateway.) If anyone is designing such a box and need professional eval, we can certainly work with you privately (off list to radamson @ routers dot com) to accomidate those needs. Anyone seen such a beast at a reasonable price?
Re: [Asterisk-Users] Still looking for small fxo sip gateway
Title: RE: [Asterisk-Users] Still looking for small fxo sip gateway The wonder is none of the FXO devices works fine except asterisk X100P. I'm not sure what is the stupidity present in that analog technology. Kannaiyan - Original Message - From: Kostur, Andre To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2004 3:58 PM Subject: RE: [Asterisk-Users] Still looking for small fxo sip gateway You might want to take a look on the Wiki pages for VoIP, in particular: http://www.voip-info.org/wiki-VoIP+Gateways Offhand at our site we're trying to set up something similar (although a little larger, 10 FXO lines, but no requirement to pick which line the call goes out... our 10 lines are all overlines). Our Vegastream 50 FXO shipped yesterday (or perhaps this morning), so we should be getting it in a day or two. (BTW: I'm in Canada) There's been rumours posted to this list that Digium is coming out with a higher-density FXO card, and Woody mentioned a Voicetronix Openline12, which appears to be a 12-port FXO card. And I believe that Intel/Dialogic puts out some multiport FXS/FXO cards... -Original Message- From: Rich Adamson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2004 6:15 AM To: Asterisk-a-users-list Subject: [Asterisk-Users] Still looking for small fxo sip gateway I've been looking around for a small external sip fxo gateway, sending emails to possible vendors, etc, and can not seem to come up with anything that fits. Suggestions anyone? (No channel bank T1 card suggestions, please. I've also just completed an eval of the Mediatrix 1204 which does not support the requirements.) The market between two fxo pstn lines (pair of x100p's) and something around four to six lines seems to be lacking, or I'm looking in the wrong search engine (or something). I fully understand the economics of when a channel bank and T1 card becomes cost effective, including the eBay costs (and risks), etc. I've also heard the comments for months now that Digium is/will be selling something real-soon-now. Specifically, I'd like to use a 4-port fxo sip gateway capable of supporting four US pstn analog lines, CallerID, Touchtone, loop style supervision, and have the capability for asterisk to direct an outbound call to a specific port on that gateway. I "think" that implies "each" port must execute a sip register command successfully. It's also expected to accept incoming pstn calls directing those to a single asterisk. (I don't care about an IP dialtone, nat, etc, just a plain-jane two-way sip gateway.) If anyone is designing such a box and need professional eval, we can certainly work with you privately (off list to radamson @ routers dot com) to accomidate those needs. Anyone seen such a beast at a reasonable price?
Re: [Asterisk-Users] Still looking for small fxo sip gateway
I've been looking around for a small external sip fxo gateway, sending emails to possible vendors, etc, and can not seem to come up with anything that fits. Suggestions anyone? (No channel bank T1 card suggestions, please. I've also just completed an eval of the Mediatrix 1204 which does not support the requirements.) The market between two fxo pstn lines (pair of x100p's) and something around four to six lines seems to be lacking, or I'm looking in the wrong search engine (or something). I fully understand the economics of when a channel bank and T1 card becomes cost effective, including the eBay costs (and risks), etc. I've also heard the comments for months now that Digium is/will be selling something real-soon-now. Specifically, I'd like to use a 4-port fxo sip gateway capable of supporting four US pstn analog lines, CallerID, Touchtone, loop style supervision, and have the capability for asterisk to direct an outbound call to a specific port on that gateway. I think that implies each port must execute a sip register command successfully. It's also expected to accept incoming pstn calls directing those to a single asterisk. (I don't care about an IP dialtone, nat, etc, just a plain-jane two-way sip gateway.) If anyone is designing such a box and need professional eval, we can certainly work with you privately (off list to radamson @ routers dot com) to accomidate those needs. Anyone seen such a beast at a reasonable price? Rich Rich - No. :-) However, you might consider Welltech ( http://www.welltech.com.tw/) to see if you can demo their products - they have a SIP load now for some of their boxes. Website currently offline, but I think that's just a network error not a company error. JT ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] Still looking for small fxo sip gateway
Comments below. Rich Adamson wrote: I've been looking around for a small external sip fxo gateway, sending emails to possible vendors, etc, and can not seem to come up with anything that fits. Suggestions anyone? (No channel bank T1 card suggestions, please. I've also just completed an eval of the Mediatrix 1204 which does not support the requirements.) I second that. Mediatrix is not RFC3261 compliant. The market between two fxo pstn lines (pair of x100p's) and something around four to six lines seems to be lacking, or I'm looking in the wrong search engine (or something). I fully understand the economics of when a channel bank and T1 card becomes cost effective, including the eBay costs (and risks), etc. I've also heard the comments for months now that Digium is/will be selling something real-soon-now. I'm in the process of doing the same thing for a friend's business that I have installed * for their PBX solution. I work for a company that develops SIP based technologies for carriers so the gateways are extremely expensive but work. What I have found is that these SOHO type gateways are very unstable, non-standard and/or lacking in basic features. Specifically, I'd like to use a 4-port fxo sip gateway capable of supporting four US pstn analog lines, CallerID, Touchtone, loop style supervision, and have the capability for asterisk to direct an outbound call to a specific port on that gateway. I think that implies each port must execute a sip register command successfully. It's also expected to accept incoming pstn calls directing those to a single asterisk. (I don't care about an IP dialtone, nat, etc, just a plain-jane two-way sip gateway.) The closest thing to your requirements that I am working with is an Audiocodes MP-104 or larger gateway. My friend bought a MP-104 and it has 4-ports that we have configured for FXO. It has Caller-ID, hunt-groups in any combination of the ports. The only problem that I am having with it is DTMF relay, which I will hopefully resolve with their latest firmware load. SIP gateways normally do NOT register. Some smaller ones may but this does not scale. Imagine a bunch of 24-port FXO gateways all registering at once! You normally just set the proxy on the gateway, give each port an ID and on the PBX/proxy have a routing rule that goes out via the gateway. If anyone is designing such a box and need professional eval, we can certainly work with you privately (off list to radamson @ routers dot com) to accomidate those needs. Anyone seen such a beast at a reasonable price? I think the Audiocodes MP-104 cost was around $1200 last year. Rich ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] Still looking for small fxo sip gateway
Clif, I've been looking around for a small external sip fxo gateway, sending emails to possible vendors, etc, and can not seem to come up with anything that fits. Suggestions anyone? (No channel bank T1 card suggestions, please. I've also just completed an eval of the Mediatrix 1204 which does not support the requirements.) I second that. Mediatrix is not RFC3261 compliant. Not so sure that makes a lot of difference since the majority of sip products being sold today aren't compliant either. The market between two fxo pstn lines (pair of x100p's) and something around four to six lines seems to be lacking, or I'm looking in the wrong search engine (or something). I fully understand the economics of when a channel bank and T1 card becomes cost effective, including the eBay costs (and risks), etc. I've also heard the comments for months now that Digium is/will be selling something real-soon-now. I'm in the process of doing the same thing for a friend's business that I have installed * for their PBX solution. I work for a company that develops SIP based technologies for carriers so the gateways are extremely expensive but work. What I have found is that these SOHO type gateways are very unstable, non-standard and/or lacking in basic features. What do you think about using the following with the 1204? [SIP] exten = _9.,1,SETCIDNUM() exten = _9.,2,Dial,SIP/[EMAIL PROTECTED] exten = _8.,1,SETCIDNUM() exten = _8.,1,Dial,SIP/[EMAIL PROTECTED] And, within the 1204 using its filter/route entry to send all calls from to port 1, etc? Seems like an acceptable approach since there really isn't a lot on the market to address the 3-to-8 pstn line needs. The closest thing to your requirements that I am working with is an Audiocodes MP-104 or larger gateway. My friend bought a MP-104 and it has 4-ports that we have configured for FXO. It has Caller-ID, hunt-groups in any combination of the ports. The only problem that I am having with it is DTMF relay, which I will hopefully resolve with their latest firmware load. SIP gateways normally do NOT register. Some smaller ones may but this does not scale. I hear you, but then the real issue is how to deal with the 3-to-8 pstn lines in the small businesses? (Somewhere over 8 lines I'm sure most businesses can afford a PRIs, T1s, Channel banks, etc, approach.) Registering 8 sip lines isn't THAT big of a deal, and much over that would likely migrate to zap channels anyway. Imagine a bunch of 24-port FXO gateways all registering at once! Really no different then expecting a bunch of sip phones to register. What's the real difference between 50 sip phones and 8 sip-registering g/w lines? Rich ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
