Re: [Asterisk-Users] TE410P Errors under load

2003-11-23 Thread Andrew Kohlsmith
 For anyone trying to make an E1/T1 crossover, here's a nice diagram from
 NMS that may help.  The only pins that are needed in a short cable for
 testing are 1,2,4,5.

Aren't those the only wires that need to be connected for _any length_ of 
cable since the others are non-connects on the jacks?

Regards,
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RE: [Asterisk-Users] TE410P Errors under load

2003-11-22 Thread Scott Stingel
For the benefit of others who may experience this  (multiple frame
rejections and PRI read errors under high IVR call volume- E1
circuits)

I've discussed this with Mark at Digium, and he's called into my system.
There may be a problem with PRI software frame buffering with a high volume
of call setups.  I will create a bug report so that this can be tracked.

In the meantime, if possible I'd like to verify this problem on another
system.  If anyone has a TE410P and would like to try my load tester on
their system, could you please contact me *off-list*, and I'll send you my
call generation Perl script for you to try.  You would need one E1 crossover
cable:  (This is simple to construct from a CAT5 Ethernet patch cable).  I
can make the problem occur with only 30 sending and receiving channels on
the same system... THANKS!

Thanks to Mark and Martin for their help on this.

Scott M. Stingel 
Emerging Voice Technology Inc.

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 Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] TE410P Errors under load
 
 
 Again, can you please confirm you are neither running serial 
 console *nor*
 graphical console (e.g. framebuffer).  If you can call into 
 the office we
 can ssh in and take a look at the configuration.
 
 Mark
 
 On Fri, 21 Nov 2003, Scott Stingel wrote:
 
  (Apologies: starting this as a new thread - I'm in a new location.)
 
  Mark-
 
  Ran latest CVS from today, and sorry to report little 
 improvement with the
  changes you made.  Running my IVR load test from one span 
 to another on same
  system.
 
  I'm initiating calls on the 2nd span, these are channels 
 32-62 (skipping the
  D channel 47), and receiving on the cooresponding channels 
 on the 1st span,
  channels 1-31 (D channel is 16).  When I run these 30 
 channels, I get
  hundreds of WARNING's (excerpt below).  I'm using a short 
 crossover cable
  (1,2 = 4,5)
 
  When I run only 10-15 channels, I get few or no WARNING's...
 
  Note read error on channel 252(?)
  Why is asterisk retransmitting so many frames on each error?
 
  These symptoms are identical to those that I've been getting from my
  customer in the field, while connected to a DMS-100, 
 handling real traffic.
 
  THANKS
  Scott
 
  WARNING[1167272128]: File chan_zap.c, Line 5716 
 (zt_pri_error): PRI: Read on
  252 failed: Unknown error 500
  WARNING[1167272128]: File chan_zap.c, Line 5716 
 (zt_pri_error): PRI: Read on
  252 failed: Unknown error 500
  WARNING[1167272128]: File chan_zap.c, Line 5716 
 (zt_pri_error): PRI: Read on
  252 failed: Unknown error 500
  WARNING[1167272128]: File chan_zap.c, Line 5716 
 (zt_pri_error): PRI: Read on
  252 failed: Unknown error 500
  WARNING[1175660608]: File chan_zap.c, Line 5716 
 (zt_pri_error): PRI: Read on
  253 failed: Unknown error 500
  WARNING[1167272128]: File chan_zap.c, Line 5716 
 (zt_pri_error): PRI: Read on
  252 failed: Unknown error 500
  WARNING[1175660608]: File chan_zap.c, Line 5716 
 (zt_pri_error): PRI: Read on
  253 failed: Unknown error 500
  WARNING[1175660608]: File chan_zap.c, Line 5716 
 (zt_pri_error): PRI: !! Got
  reject for frame 97, retransmitting frame 97 now, updating n_r!
  WARNING[1175660608]: File chan_zap.c, Line 5716 
 (zt_pri_error): PRI: !! Got
  reject for frame 97, retransmitting frame 98 now, updating n_r!
  WARNING[1175660608]: File chan_zap.c, Line 5716 
 (zt_pri_error): PRI: !! Got
  reject for frame 97, retransmitting frame 99 now, updating n_r!
  WARNING[1175660608]: File chan_zap.c, Line 5716 
 (zt_pri_error): PRI: !! Got
  reject for frame 97, retransmitting frame 100 now, updating n_r!
  WARNING[1175660608]: File chan_zap.c, Line 5716 
 (zt_pri_error): PRI: !! Got
  reject for frame 97, retransmitting frame 101 now, updating n_r!
  WARNING[1175660608]: File chan_zap.c, Line 5716 
 (zt_pri_error): PRI: !! Got
  reject for frame 97, retransmitting frame 102 now, updating n_r!
  WARNING[1175660608]: File chan_zap.c, Line 5716 
 (zt_pri_error): PRI: !! Got
  reject for frame 97, retransmitting frame 103 now, updating n_r!
  WARNING[1175660608]: File chan_zap.c, Line 5716 
 (zt_pri_error): PRI: !! Got
  reject for frame 97, retransmitting frame 104 now, updating n_r!
  WARNING[1175660608]: File chan_zap.c, Line 5716 
 (zt_pri_error): PRI: !! Got
  reject for frame 97, retransmitting frame 105 now, updating n_r!
  WARNING[1175660608]: File chan_zap.c, Line 5716 
 (zt_pri_error): PRI: !! Got
  reject for frame 97, retransmitting frame 106 now, updating n_r!
  WARNING[1175660608]: File chan_zap.c, Line 5716 
 (zt_pri_error): PRI: !! Got
  reject for frame 97, retransmitting frame 107 now, updating n_r!
  WARNING[1167272128]: File chan_zap.c, Line 5716 
 (zt_pri_error): PRI: Read on
  252 failed: Unknown error 500

RE: [Asterisk-Users] TE410P Errors under load

2003-11-22 Thread Ray Burkholder
Might you be getting problems because you are using an Ethernet cable?  If
my memory serves correctly, an Ethernet cable is paired differently than an
E1/T1 cable.

 call generation Perl script for you to try.  You would need 
 one E1 crossover
 cable:  (This is simple to construct from a CAT5 Ethernet 
 patch cable).  I
 can make the problem occur with only 30 sending and receiving 
 channels on
 the same system... THANKS!
 


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RE: [Asterisk-Users] TE410P Errors under load

2003-11-22 Thread Scott Stingel
Yes it is different, the E1 crossover cable pairs 1+2 with 4+5.

What I meant was that you can make a crossover by cutting up a CAT5 cable
and redoing two pair (I wan't clear)

Cheers
Scott

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 Might you be getting problems because you are using an 
 Ethernet cable?  If
 my memory serves correctly, an Ethernet cable is paired 
 differently than an
 E1/T1 cable.
 
  call generation Perl script for you to try.  You would need 
  one E1 crossover
  cable:  (This is simple to construct from a CAT5 Ethernet 
  patch cable).  I
  can make the problem occur with only 30 sending and receiving 
  channels on
  the same system... THANKS!
  
 
 
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RE: [Asterisk-Users] TE410P Errors under load

2003-11-22 Thread Brian D Heaton
A 568B Ethernet cable will be paired as follows:

1 ORG-WHT
2 ORG
3 BLU
4 GRN-WHT
5 GRN
6 BLU-WHT
7 BRN-WHT
8 BRN

As you can see you still maintain twisted pair integrity for T1
applications (1-2, 4-5), as well as Ethernet (1-2, 3-6).  The primary
issue would be shielding as most Ethernet cables aren't shielded.

THX/BDH



On Sat, 2003-11-22 at 13:43, Ray Burkholder wrote:
 Might you be getting problems because you are using an Ethernet cable?  If
 my memory serves correctly, an Ethernet cable is paired differently than an
 E1/T1 cable.


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RE: [Asterisk-Users] TE410P Errors under load

2003-11-22 Thread Scott Stingel
Yes, that's true how the pairs are formed, and its also true that a (short)
ethernet cable can normally be used as a straight through E1/T1 cable, since
all wires are connected.

We need an E1 crossover cable for the tests we're running, and so we have to
make one, because an ethernet crossover cable will not work.

For anyone trying to make an E1/T1 crossover, here's a nice diagram from NMS
that may help.  The only pins that are needed in a short cable for testing
are 1,2,4,5.

Click on:
http://www.nmscommunications.com/NMS/nms_technotes.nsf/0/91d49c8785b2aab0852
566fa0050740a?OpenDocument

Cheers
Scott

Scott M. Stingel 
Emerging Voice Technology Inc.

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 Subject: RE: [Asterisk-Users] TE410P Errors under load
 
 
 A 568B Ethernet cable will be paired as follows:
 
 1 ORG-WHT
 2 ORG
 3 BLU
 4 GRN-WHT
 5 GRN
 6 BLU-WHT
 7 BRN-WHT
 8 BRN
 
 As you can see you still maintain twisted pair integrity for T1
 applications (1-2, 4-5), as well as Ethernet (1-2, 3-6).  The primary
 issue would be shielding as most Ethernet cables aren't shielded.
 
   THX/BDH
 
 
 
 On Sat, 2003-11-22 at 13:43, Ray Burkholder wrote:
  Might you be getting problems because you are using an 
 Ethernet cable?  If
  my memory serves correctly, an Ethernet cable is paired 
 differently than an
  E1/T1 cable.
 
 
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RE: [Asterisk-Users] TE410P Errors under load

2003-11-22 Thread Brian D Heaton
One of the simplest ways to make a T-1 (E-1) crossover is to take a dual
RJ-45 biscuit and do the crossover inside it.  Label it as a crossover
with a Sharpie.  Then you can use two normal cables.  I always had at
least one of these in my kit when I was doing field work.

THX/BDH


On Sat, 2003-11-22 at 19:45, Scott Stingel wrote:
 Yes, that's true how the pairs are formed, and its also true that a (short)
 ethernet cable can normally be used as a straight through E1/T1 cable, since
 all wires are connected.
 
 We need an E1 crossover cable for the tests we're running, and so we have to
 make one, because an ethernet crossover cable will not work.
 
 For anyone trying to make an E1/T1 crossover, here's a nice diagram from NMS
 that may help.  The only pins that are needed in a short cable for testing
 are 1,2,4,5.
 
 Click on:
 http://www.nmscommunications.com/NMS/nms_technotes.nsf/0/91d49c8785b2aab0852
 566fa0050740a?OpenDocument
 
 Cheers
 Scott
 
 Scott M. Stingel 
 Emerging Voice Technology Inc.
 
 Email:  [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]   
 URL:www.evtmedia.com http://www.evtmedia.com   
 
 
 
  -Original Message-
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  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 
  Brian D Heaton
  Sent: Saturday, November 22, 2003 10:04 PM
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: RE: [Asterisk-Users] TE410P Errors under load
  
  
  A 568B Ethernet cable will be paired as follows:
  
  1 ORG-WHT
  2 ORG
  3 BLU
  4 GRN-WHT
  5 GRN
  6 BLU-WHT
  7 BRN-WHT
  8 BRN
  
  As you can see you still maintain twisted pair integrity for T1
  applications (1-2, 4-5), as well as Ethernet (1-2, 3-6).  The primary
  issue would be shielding as most Ethernet cables aren't shielded.
  
  THX/BDH
  
  
  
  On Sat, 2003-11-22 at 13:43, Ray Burkholder wrote:
   Might you be getting problems because you are using an 
  Ethernet cable?  If
   my memory serves correctly, an Ethernet cable is paired 
  differently than an
   E1/T1 cable.
  
  
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RE: [Asterisk-Users] TE410P ERRORS under load

2003-11-21 Thread Scott Stingel
Mark-

The system is Tyan s2723, which includes an integrated graphics controller,
and I've connected a monitor to this port.  I don't start the X-windows
software however, and I don't use this monitor.  For starting my scripts, I
connect using SSH via an Ethernet port, however everything operates in
background mode, there is no output to any console while these tests are
running - just log files.

I do receive an occasional Double/missed interrupt message - but very few of
these.

Will report the results of testing your new driver code!

Thanks
Scott

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Emerging Voice Technology Inc.
 

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 Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] TE410P ERRORS under load
 
 
 I've made some updates that may help alleviate these problems 
 on TE410P on
 E1.  I'd like you to test and tell me if that helps.  Also, 
 I'd like you
 to confirm that you are using neither serial console nor frame buffer
 (graphical) console.
 
 Mark
 
 On Thu, 20 Nov 2003, Scott Stingel wrote:
 
  Hi all-
 
  HELP!
 
  This is actually a revisit of a problem that I had earlier 
 with E400P's at a
  customer site.  Customer still gets locked up channel 
 problem, but has
  learned to live with it  (channels clear themselves after 
 several minutes).
  The symptoms, which I  believe are directly related:
 
  I'm having problems with tons of framing and read errors on my E1
  connections (and occasional stuck channels) when I run a 
 very simple IVR
  script under anything other than light load.  Previously, I 
 had thought this
  problem related to my customer's PBX connections (Nortel 
 DMS100), but in the
  last week I've had the opportunity to work in-house with a couple of
  TE410P's, with one span making calls to another on the same machine.
 
  I have two simple scripts running under the dialplan.  On 
 span 1, I simply
  answer each call, play a short message, and hang up.  On 
 span 2, I run a
  Perl script that formats and drops calls (into 
 /var/spool/asterisk/outgoing)
  for all channels at staggered times.  These calls are 
 simple outgoing calls
  that dial a number, wait 2 seconds, and hangup.  After a 
 few seconds, each
  call repeats.
 
  I can run this scenario on up to 10 channels at once with 
 *no errors*.
  Above 10 channels, I start to get many (several per second 
 when running 30
  channels) framing and read errors, with text similar to 
 the following:
 
  WARNING[1167272128]: File chan_zap.c, Line 5670 
 (zt_pri_error): PRI: !! Got
  reject for frame 26, retransmitting frame 26 now, up_dating n_r!
  (repeating for each error several times, with ascending 
 retransmitted frame
  numbers)
 
  and also, less often:
  WARNING[1167272128]: File chan_zap.c, Line 5670 
 (zt_pri_error): PRI: Read on
  NN failed: Unknown error 500   (NN is the channel)
 
  MY SETUP:
  Tyan S2723, with dual Xeon's running at 2.4 GHz, 1MB memory
  Redhat 9
  Two TE410P's, spans set for E1.  Problem happens between 
 spans on different
  boards, or spans on the same board.
  Sending board setup in zaptel.conf, for example:  
 span=2,1,0,ccs,hdb3
  (adding crc4 makes no difference)
  Recving board setup in zaptel.conf, for example:  
 span=1,0,0,ccs,hdb3 
 
  In zapata.conf, sender is pri_net and receiver is pri_cpe
 
  QUESTIONS:
  ANYONE: Has anyone else experienced these framing problems 
 in any scenario,
  and if so, what did you do about it please?
 
  FOR THE ISDN GURU's: What exactly does the framing error indicate?
 
  THANKS IN ADVANCE FOR HELPING ME SOLVE THIS LOAD_RELATED PROBLEM.
 
  Scott M. Stingel
  Emerging Voice Technology Inc.
  Palo Alto, California and London, England
 
  URL:www.evtmedia.com
 
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] TE410P Errors under load

2003-11-21 Thread Mark Spencer
Again, can you please confirm you are neither running serial console *nor*
graphical console (e.g. framebuffer).  If you can call into the office we
can ssh in and take a look at the configuration.

Mark

On Fri, 21 Nov 2003, Scott Stingel wrote:

 (Apologies: starting this as a new thread - I'm in a new location.)

 Mark-

 Ran latest CVS from today, and sorry to report little improvement with the
 changes you made.  Running my IVR load test from one span to another on same
 system.

 I'm initiating calls on the 2nd span, these are channels 32-62 (skipping the
 D channel 47), and receiving on the cooresponding channels on the 1st span,
 channels 1-31 (D channel is 16).  When I run these 30 channels, I get
 hundreds of WARNING's (excerpt below).  I'm using a short crossover cable
 (1,2 = 4,5)

 When I run only 10-15 channels, I get few or no WARNING's...

 Note read error on channel 252(?)
 Why is asterisk retransmitting so many frames on each error?

 These symptoms are identical to those that I've been getting from my
 customer in the field, while connected to a DMS-100, handling real traffic.

 THANKS
 Scott

 WARNING[1167272128]: File chan_zap.c, Line 5716 (zt_pri_error): PRI: Read on
 252 failed: Unknown error 500
 WARNING[1167272128]: File chan_zap.c, Line 5716 (zt_pri_error): PRI: Read on
 252 failed: Unknown error 500
 WARNING[1167272128]: File chan_zap.c, Line 5716 (zt_pri_error): PRI: Read on
 252 failed: Unknown error 500
 WARNING[1167272128]: File chan_zap.c, Line 5716 (zt_pri_error): PRI: Read on
 252 failed: Unknown error 500
 WARNING[1175660608]: File chan_zap.c, Line 5716 (zt_pri_error): PRI: Read on
 253 failed: Unknown error 500
 WARNING[1167272128]: File chan_zap.c, Line 5716 (zt_pri_error): PRI: Read on
 252 failed: Unknown error 500
 WARNING[1175660608]: File chan_zap.c, Line 5716 (zt_pri_error): PRI: Read on
 253 failed: Unknown error 500
 WARNING[1175660608]: File chan_zap.c, Line 5716 (zt_pri_error): PRI: !! Got
 reject for frame 97, retransmitting frame 97 now, updating n_r!
 WARNING[1175660608]: File chan_zap.c, Line 5716 (zt_pri_error): PRI: !! Got
 reject for frame 97, retransmitting frame 98 now, updating n_r!
 WARNING[1175660608]: File chan_zap.c, Line 5716 (zt_pri_error): PRI: !! Got
 reject for frame 97, retransmitting frame 99 now, updating n_r!
 WARNING[1175660608]: File chan_zap.c, Line 5716 (zt_pri_error): PRI: !! Got
 reject for frame 97, retransmitting frame 100 now, updating n_r!
 WARNING[1175660608]: File chan_zap.c, Line 5716 (zt_pri_error): PRI: !! Got
 reject for frame 97, retransmitting frame 101 now, updating n_r!
 WARNING[1175660608]: File chan_zap.c, Line 5716 (zt_pri_error): PRI: !! Got
 reject for frame 97, retransmitting frame 102 now, updating n_r!
 WARNING[1175660608]: File chan_zap.c, Line 5716 (zt_pri_error): PRI: !! Got
 reject for frame 97, retransmitting frame 103 now, updating n_r!
 WARNING[1175660608]: File chan_zap.c, Line 5716 (zt_pri_error): PRI: !! Got
 reject for frame 97, retransmitting frame 104 now, updating n_r!
 WARNING[1175660608]: File chan_zap.c, Line 5716 (zt_pri_error): PRI: !! Got
 reject for frame 97, retransmitting frame 105 now, updating n_r!
 WARNING[1175660608]: File chan_zap.c, Line 5716 (zt_pri_error): PRI: !! Got
 reject for frame 97, retransmitting frame 106 now, updating n_r!
 WARNING[1175660608]: File chan_zap.c, Line 5716 (zt_pri_error): PRI: !! Got
 reject for frame 97, retransmitting frame 107 now, updating n_r!
 WARNING[1167272128]: File chan_zap.c, Line 5716 (zt_pri_error): PRI: Read on
 252 failed: Unknown error 500
 ---

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 Emerging Voice Technology Inc.
 Palo Alto, California and London, England

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[Asterisk-Users] TE410P ERRORS under load

2003-11-20 Thread Scott Stingel
Hi all-

HELP!

This is actually a revisit of a problem that I had earlier with E400P's at a
customer site.  Customer still gets locked up channel problem, but has
learned to live with it  (channels clear themselves after several minutes).
The symptoms, which I  believe are directly related:

I'm having problems with tons of framing and read errors on my E1
connections (and occasional stuck channels) when I run a very simple IVR
script under anything other than light load.  Previously, I had thought this
problem related to my customer's PBX connections (Nortel DMS100), but in the
last week I've had the opportunity to work in-house with a couple of
TE410P's, with one span making calls to another on the same machine.

I have two simple scripts running under the dialplan.  On span 1, I simply
answer each call, play a short message, and hang up.  On span 2, I run a
Perl script that formats and drops calls (into /var/spool/asterisk/outgoing)
for all channels at staggered times.  These calls are simple outgoing calls
that dial a number, wait 2 seconds, and hangup.  After a few seconds, each
call repeats.

I can run this scenario on up to 10 channels at once with *no errors*.
Above 10 channels, I start to get many (several per second when running 30
channels) framing and read errors, with text similar to the following:

WARNING[1167272128]: File chan_zap.c, Line 5670 (zt_pri_error): PRI: !! Got
reject for frame 26, retransmitting frame 26 now, up_dating n_r!
(repeating for each error several times, with ascending retransmitted frame
numbers)

and also, less often:
WARNING[1167272128]: File chan_zap.c, Line 5670 (zt_pri_error): PRI: Read on
NN failed: Unknown error 500   (NN is the channel)

MY SETUP:
Tyan S2723, with dual Xeon's running at 2.4 GHz, 1MB memory
Redhat 9
Two TE410P's, spans set for E1.  Problem happens between spans on different
boards, or spans on the same board.
Sending board setup in zaptel.conf, for example:  span=2,1,0,ccs,hdb3
(adding crc4 makes no difference)
Recving board setup in zaptel.conf, for example:  span=1,0,0,ccs,hdb3 

In zapata.conf, sender is pri_net and receiver is pri_cpe

QUESTIONS:
ANYONE: Has anyone else experienced these framing problems in any scenario,
and if so, what did you do about it please?

FOR THE ISDN GURU's: What exactly does the framing error indicate? 

THANKS IN ADVANCE FOR HELPING ME SOLVE THIS LOAD_RELATED PROBLEM.

Scott M. Stingel 
Emerging Voice Technology Inc.
Palo Alto, California and London, England
 
URL:www.evtmedia.com  

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Re: [Asterisk-Users] TE410P ERRORS under load

2003-11-20 Thread Mark Spencer
I've made some updates that may help alleviate these problems on TE410P on
E1.  I'd like you to test and tell me if that helps.  Also, I'd like you
to confirm that you are using neither serial console nor frame buffer
(graphical) console.

Mark

On Thu, 20 Nov 2003, Scott Stingel wrote:

 Hi all-

 HELP!

 This is actually a revisit of a problem that I had earlier with E400P's at a
 customer site.  Customer still gets locked up channel problem, but has
 learned to live with it  (channels clear themselves after several minutes).
 The symptoms, which I  believe are directly related:

 I'm having problems with tons of framing and read errors on my E1
 connections (and occasional stuck channels) when I run a very simple IVR
 script under anything other than light load.  Previously, I had thought this
 problem related to my customer's PBX connections (Nortel DMS100), but in the
 last week I've had the opportunity to work in-house with a couple of
 TE410P's, with one span making calls to another on the same machine.

 I have two simple scripts running under the dialplan.  On span 1, I simply
 answer each call, play a short message, and hang up.  On span 2, I run a
 Perl script that formats and drops calls (into /var/spool/asterisk/outgoing)
 for all channels at staggered times.  These calls are simple outgoing calls
 that dial a number, wait 2 seconds, and hangup.  After a few seconds, each
 call repeats.

 I can run this scenario on up to 10 channels at once with *no errors*.
 Above 10 channels, I start to get many (several per second when running 30
 channels) framing and read errors, with text similar to the following:

 WARNING[1167272128]: File chan_zap.c, Line 5670 (zt_pri_error): PRI: !! Got
 reject for frame 26, retransmitting frame 26 now, up_dating n_r!
 (repeating for each error several times, with ascending retransmitted frame
 numbers)

 and also, less often:
 WARNING[1167272128]: File chan_zap.c, Line 5670 (zt_pri_error): PRI: Read on
 NN failed: Unknown error 500   (NN is the channel)

 MY SETUP:
 Tyan S2723, with dual Xeon's running at 2.4 GHz, 1MB memory
 Redhat 9
 Two TE410P's, spans set for E1.  Problem happens between spans on different
 boards, or spans on the same board.
 Sending board setup in zaptel.conf, for example:  span=2,1,0,ccs,hdb3
 (adding crc4 makes no difference)
 Recving board setup in zaptel.conf, for example:  span=1,0,0,ccs,hdb3 

 In zapata.conf, sender is pri_net and receiver is pri_cpe

 QUESTIONS:
 ANYONE: Has anyone else experienced these framing problems in any scenario,
 and if so, what did you do about it please?

 FOR THE ISDN GURU's: What exactly does the framing error indicate?

 THANKS IN ADVANCE FOR HELPING ME SOLVE THIS LOAD_RELATED PROBLEM.

 Scott M. Stingel
 Emerging Voice Technology Inc.
 Palo Alto, California and London, England

 URL:www.evtmedia.com

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