Re: [Asterisk-Users] Virtual fax on the Asterisk box
Hi Jim, Thank you for your detailed answer. I doubt anything is available (yet) that speaks iax/iax2, but sip or h.323 should be supported. Just make sure it can take a g.711 call and act like a fax machine; and take a bitmap and generate a g.711 call to send that document. If all you can find is a g.711 to t.38 solution, openh323 has support for t.38 to eg hylafax. A bit of a rube-goldberg, but it ought to work. I think to a SIP or IAX user agent ( I don't want to use H.323) with only G.711 support and able to emulate a virtual modem who then be used by a standard FAX application (Linux or Windows based) The biggest issue with these kinds of setups is latency. The fax protocols, as you can imagine, have latency requriements that are more stringent than voice calls. I need it only on the LAN, with a PSTN connection through a X100P card, so latency must not be an issue. BR, Dan ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] Virtual fax on the Asterisk box
Hylafax Dan. It isn't that elegant though as you'll need to wire an analogue port to each fax/modem. AFAIK there isn't a virtual fax/modem provided by * that another programme can use. W - Original Message - From: Dan [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, July 05, 2003 7:20 AM Subject: [Asterisk-Users] Virtual fax on the Asterisk box Hi all, I want to get the following functionality: define one extension as a virtual fax machine. Every fax redirected to that extension to be converted in a picture file (bmp/jpg/gif or something else) and then attached to an email and send to an e-mail address. Are you aware of a linux based application who does something like this and can be installed on the same computer as Asterisk? Another possibility is a Windows based software SIP fax which can be registered with Asterisk. Thanks, Dan ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] Virtual fax on the Asterisk box
Hi, What I need is a pure software solution, to avoid any other hardware to get that functionality. Thanks, Dan - Original Message - From: Simon Woodhead [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 07, 2003 11:50 AM Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] Virtual fax on the Asterisk box Hylafax Dan. It isn't that elegant though as you'll need to wire an analogue port to each fax/modem. AFAIK there isn't a virtual fax/modem provided by * that another programme can use. W - Original Message - From: Dan [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, July 05, 2003 7:20 AM Subject: [Asterisk-Users] Virtual fax on the Asterisk box Hi all, I want to get the following functionality: define one extension as a virtual fax machine. Every fax redirected to that extension to be converted in a picture file (bmp/jpg/gif or something else) and then attached to an email and send to an e-mail address. Are you aware of a linux based application who does something like this and can be installed on the same computer as Asterisk? Another possibility is a Windows based software SIP fax which can be registered with Asterisk. Thanks, Dan ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] Virtual fax on the Asterisk box
I don't think such a thing exists Dan but please let me know if you find one as we need the same. The only additional hardware you'd need is a fax/modem or two for Hylafax (assuming your * already has analogue extensions set up). One appealing thing about this solution is that the fax can be on a separate machine to * which is worth considering given the possible cpu implications of a lot of pstiff/pdf conversions. W - Original Message - From: Dan [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 07, 2003 10:13 AM Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] Virtual fax on the Asterisk box Hi, What I need is a pure software solution, to avoid any other hardware to get that functionality. Thanks, Dan - Original Message - From: Simon Woodhead [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 07, 2003 11:50 AM Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] Virtual fax on the Asterisk box Hylafax Dan. It isn't that elegant though as you'll need to wire an analogue port to each fax/modem. AFAIK there isn't a virtual fax/modem provided by * that another programme can use. W - Original Message - From: Dan [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, July 05, 2003 7:20 AM Subject: [Asterisk-Users] Virtual fax on the Asterisk box Hi all, I want to get the following functionality: define one extension as a virtual fax machine. Every fax redirected to that extension to be converted in a picture file (bmp/jpg/gif or something else) and then attached to an email and send to an e-mail address. Are you aware of a linux based application who does something like this and can be installed on the same computer as Asterisk? Another possibility is a Windows based software SIP fax which can be registered with Asterisk. Thanks, Dan ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] Virtual fax on the Asterisk box
Hi, I have seen all of this on a Cisco 17xx router, including IVR and sending faxes through e-mail, but it is far too expensive for me... Theoretically is possible to have let's say an IAX or SIP software phone, even on a separate computer as Asterisk who can handle faxes. The only additional hardware you'd need is a fax/modem or two for Hylafax (assuming your * already has analogue extensions set up). Not only you need aditional FXS interfaces to connect those modems and you have to pay for them. In this moment I have one port from a Cisco ATA186 for fax purposes, through a PC fax-modem, but I want to free up the port for a normal phone, not for a FAX device. One appealing thing about this solution is that the fax can be on a separate machine to * which is worth considering given the possible cpu implications of a lot of pstiff/pdf conversions. This is what I have in this moment, but I want more..;-) Thank you and best regards, Dan - Original Message - From: Simon Woodhead [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 07, 2003 12:32 PM Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] Virtual fax on the Asterisk box I don't think such a thing exists Dan but please let me know if you find one as we need the same. The only additional hardware you'd need is a fax/modem or two for Hylafax (assuming your * already has analogue extensions set up). One appealing thing about this solution is that the fax can be on a separate machine to * which is worth considering given the possible cpu implications of a lot of pstiff/pdf conversions. W - Original Message - From: Dan [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 07, 2003 10:13 AM Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] Virtual fax on the Asterisk box Hi, What I need is a pure software solution, to avoid any other hardware to get that functionality. Thanks, Dan - Original Message - From: Simon Woodhead [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 07, 2003 11:50 AM Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] Virtual fax on the Asterisk box Hylafax Dan. It isn't that elegant though as you'll need to wire an analogue port to each fax/modem. AFAIK there isn't a virtual fax/modem provided by * that another programme can use. W - Original Message - From: Dan [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, July 05, 2003 7:20 AM Subject: [Asterisk-Users] Virtual fax on the Asterisk box Hi all, I want to get the following functionality: define one extension as a virtual fax machine. Every fax redirected to that extension to be converted in a picture file (bmp/jpg/gif or something else) and then attached to an email and send to an e-mail address. Are you aware of a linux based application who does something like this and can be installed on the same computer as Asterisk? Another possibility is a Windows based software SIP fax which can be registered with Asterisk. Thanks, Dan ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] Virtual fax on the Asterisk box
- Original Message - From: Dan [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 07, 2003 10:13 AM Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] Virtual fax on the Asterisk box Hi, What I need is a pure software solution, to avoid any other hardware to get that functionality. i recall t38modem (a soft modem working as an h323 endpoint) http://www.openh323.org/t38.html it should/could work against an asterisk gateway with h323 support (any flavour..) and it should expose a serial device driven with AT commands and acting as a soft-modem for just sending (and receive?!) fax ( i don't remember if it's just class 1 or 2 or whatever..) BTW i didn't have the time to try it.. anyone with some experience to share? bye Thanks, Dan - Original Message - From: Simon Woodhead [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 07, 2003 11:50 AM Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] Virtual fax on the Asterisk box Hylafax Dan. It isn't that elegant though as you'll need to wire an analogue port to each fax/modem. AFAIK there isn't a virtual fax/modem provided by * that another programme can use. W - Original Message - From: Dan [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, July 05, 2003 7:20 AM Subject: [Asterisk-Users] Virtual fax on the Asterisk box Hi all, I want to get the following functionality: define one extension as a virtual fax machine. Every fax redirected to that extension to be converted in a picture file (bmp/jpg/gif or something else) and then attached to an email and send to an e-mail address. Are you aware of a linux based application who does something like this and can be installed on the same computer as Asterisk? Another possibility is a Windows based software SIP fax which can be registered with Asterisk. Thanks, Dan ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] Virtual fax on the Asterisk box
On Mon, 7 Jul 2003, Andrea Venturi wrote: i recall t38modem (a soft modem working as an h323 endpoint) http://www.openh323.org/t38.html anyone with some experience to share? I tried it a few months ago with a maxtnt and a couple t1's. It would usually receive one page but die on the beginning of the second. I worked with the developer for a while but he wasn't sure what was causing it. It's probably improved by now, however. -- Dave Weis I believe there are more instances of the abridgment [EMAIL PROTECTED] of the freedom of the people by gradual and silent encroachments of those in power than by violent and sudden usurpations.- James Madison ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] Virtual fax on the Asterisk box
On Monday 07 July 2003 08:24 am, Dan wrote: Hi Andrea, This is very interesting starting point. Thanks, Dan Great going Dan, You posted 6 new lines, left an additional 134 lines of old junk, 4 original headers and 5 old footers. Can people trim their posts when they reply. ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] Virtual fax on the Asterisk box
Dan == Dan [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Dan I have seen all of this on a Cisco 17xx router, including IVR Dan and sending faxes through e-mail, but it is far too expensive for Dan me... Theoretically is possible to have let's say an IAX or SIP Dan software phone, even on a separate computer as Asterisk who can Dan handle faxes. Yes, it is possible to make such a software only fax that can eg convert between g.711 and either t.38 or something that software like hylafax can connect to via a pty. Some of the work has been done as free/open software, but it would probably take as much more work to tie it together into a single project. The real problem is that the telcos that generated the standards tied everything up with patents, so something that can be released as source is hard to generate. I have seen ad copy (found via google) suggesting the there are solutions out there for what the OP wants to do. It would not surprise me at all were they as expensive as the cisco option, just for software to run on a linux or bsd box. But perhaps someone does have something priced at a (near-)comodity level. I doubt anything is available (yet) that speaks iax/iax2, but sip or h.323 should be supported. Just make sure it can take a g.711 call and act like a fax machine; and take a bitmap and generate a g.711 call to send that document. If all you can find is a g.711 to t.38 solution, openh323 has support for t.38 to eg hylafax. A bit of a rube-goldberg, but it ought to work. The biggest issue with these kinds of setups is latency. The fax protocols, as you can imagine, have latency requriements that are more stringent than voice calls. As a final note, modern fax machines have finally started supporting v.34 and v.34bis fax. HP's latest and imediately previous lines of office jets are an example. They also support a 300 dpi colour mode that, if I understand correctly, is no longer proprietory-per-vendor. It would be useful to have support for the higher dpi and faster modes in any g.711 software fax products. -JimC ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
[Asterisk-Users] Virtual fax on the Asterisk box
Hi all, I want to get the following functionality: define one extension as a virtual fax machine. Every fax redirected to that extension to be converted in a picture file (bmp/jpg/gif or something else) and then attached to an email and send to an e-mail address. Are you aware of a linux based application who does something like this and can be installed on the same computer as Asterisk? Another possibility is a Windows based software SIP fax which can be registered with Asterisk. Thanks, Dan ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
[Asterisk-Users] Virtual fax on the Asterisk box
I repost this message as it does not hit the list first time. Dan - Original Message - From: Dan [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, July 05, 2003 9:20 AM Subject: Virtual fax on the Asterisk box Hi all, I want to get the following functionality: define one extension as a virtual fax machine. Every fax redirected to that extension to be converted in a picture file (bmp/jpg/gif or something else) and then attached to an email and send to an e-mail address. Are you aware of a linux based application who does something like this and can be installed on the same computer as Asterisk? Another possibility is a Windows based software SIP fax which can be registered with Asterisk. Thanks, Dan ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] Virtual fax on the Asterisk box
I dont know if it's really elegant enough, but if you wanted to set up a modem and mgetty, it should do most of that. It's not so elegant and it will tie up a port, but it might be the quickest option. Dan [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi all, I want to get the following functionality: define one extension as a virtual fax machine. Every fax redirected to that extension to be converted in a picture file (bmp/jpg/gif or something else) and then attached to an email and send to an e-mail address. Are you aware of a linux based application who does something like this and can be installed on the same computer as Asterisk? Another possibility is a Windows based software SIP fax which can be registered with Asterisk. Thanks, Dan ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users -- Matthias Granberry [EMAIL PROTECTED] (469) 371-0596 ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
