[Asterisk-Users] VoiceConduits - Notice

2004-12-30 Thread ml-asterisk-users








Hello,



This is David Deutsch, and Im the owner of VoiceConduits.
There seems to be some confusion related to our company, regarding the past few
posts.



VoiceConduits is currently NOT open for public business, we
have never to date advertised or attempted to attract business. It appears that
a few people heard about our company via a mention in a SineApps article and
found our beta system that is under development. We apologize that a few people
managed to sign up via this interface, and we will happily refund anyone who
did so immediately, additionally we will supply them with free credit to be
used once we are in fact live.



It was certainly never our intention to defraud
individuals of the asterisk or voip community, our understanding is that only 5
people have managed to signup thru this automated system, and we will be
contacting each of them individually to insure they are refunded and happy with
the resolution.



Thank you,



David Deutsch, President

Tris Telecommunications, LLC

(800) 547-4057 x1001








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Re: [Asterisk-Users] VoiceConduits - Notice, Apology, and Clarification

2004-12-30 Thread Kristian Kielhofner
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hello,
 

This is David Deutsch, and Im the owner of VoiceConduits. There seems 
to be some confusion related to our company, regarding the past few posts.

 

VoiceConduits is currently NOT open for public business, we have never 
to date advertised or attempted to attract business. It appears that a 
few people heard about our company via a mention in a SineApps article 
and found our beta system that is under development. We apologize that a 
few people managed to sign up via this interface, and we will happily 
refund anyone who did so immediately, additionally we will supply them 
with free credit to be used once we are in fact live.

 

It was certainly never our intention to defraud individuals of the 
asterisk or voip community, our understanding is that only 5 people have 
managed to signup thru this automated system, and we will be contacting 
each of them individually to insure they are refunded and happy with the 
resolution.

 

Thank you,
 

David Deutsch, President
Tris Telecommunications, LLC
(800) 547-4057 x1001
David,
	Thank you for calling me and clearing things up.  It seems that once 
you have VoiceConduits up and running it will be an excellent service. 
I really do look forward to doing business with VoiceConduits.  For the 
record:

1) The Sri Lanka number was a cell phone in India, where David was 
helping with the tsunami.

2) The Wyoming \ Nevada inc. thing, was done to minimize personal 
liability, as in Delaware.  Why I don't necessarily agree with it, I can 
certainly understand why you would want to do it...

	In the world of spam and shoddy internet transactions, it is not that 
hard to at least make your company LOOK legitimate.  This includes valid 
contact numbers, good communication, accurate WHOIS records, etc.   I 
can appreciate that you were not ready for business, but it is not that 
hard to block the sign-up portion of your site until you are ready. 
Hopefully this whole thread can be a lesson to someone looking to setup 
a business and avoid this kind of thing.

Brian, David, anyone else, my sincerest apologies.
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] VoiceConduits - Notice, Apology, and Clarification

2004-12-30 Thread Marc Storck
Hello,
what made me think most of a scam was the fact that nobody responded to 
my support request, nobody sent me a notice that the service is not yet 
actively marketed, there was/is no notice on the website. If only 5 
users where able to sign up and I'm one of them, then it shouldn't have 
been that difficult to contact those users and tell them what's up with 
voiceconduits.

I would be happy to get the ordered TollFree numbers online... I hope 
they were not part of the deal with that company just passing away

Althought I didn't get a call, please accept my apologies, I'll be more 
than happy to use your services as soon as they are available, or even 
as test-user (but please tell me so ;-) )

Thank you for your messages to the list,
Marc
Kristian Kielhofner wrote:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hello,
 

This is David Deutsch, and Im the owner of VoiceConduits. There seems 
to be some confusion related to our company, regarding the past few 
posts.

 

VoiceConduits is currently NOT open for public business, we have never 
to date advertised or attempted to attract business. It appears that a 
few people heard about our company via a mention in a SineApps article 
and found our beta system that is under development. We apologize that 
a few people managed to sign up via this interface, and we will 
happily refund anyone who did so immediately, additionally we will 
supply them with free credit to be used once we are in fact live.

 

It was certainly never our intention to defraud individuals of the 
asterisk or voip community, our understanding is that only 5 people 
have managed to signup thru this automated system, and we will be 
contacting each of them individually to insure they are refunded and 
happy with the resolution.

 

Thank you,
 

David Deutsch, President
Tris Telecommunications, LLC
(800) 547-4057 x1001
David,
Thank you for calling me and clearing things up.  It seems that once 
you have VoiceConduits up and running it will be an excellent service. I 
really do look forward to doing business with VoiceConduits.  For the 
record:

1) The Sri Lanka number was a cell phone in India, where David was 
helping with the tsunami.

2) The Wyoming \ Nevada inc. thing, was done to minimize personal 
liability, as in Delaware.  Why I don't necessarily agree with it, I can 
certainly understand why you would want to do it...

In the world of spam and shoddy internet transactions, it is not 
that hard to at least make your company LOOK legitimate.  This includes 
valid contact numbers, good communication, accurate WHOIS records, 
etc.   I can appreciate that you were not ready for business, but it is 
not that hard to block the sign-up portion of your site until you are 
ready. Hopefully this whole thread can be a lesson to someone looking to 
setup a business and avoid this kind of thing.

Brian, David, anyone else, my sincerest apologies.
--
Kristian Kielhofner
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RE: [Asterisk-Users] VoiceConduits - Notice, Apology, and Clarification

2004-12-30 Thread Jay Milk
Gotta ask the obvious here --

 -Original Message-
 1) The Sri Lanka number was a cell phone in India, where David was 
 helping with the tsunami.

I guess this could receive some additional clarification.  If David
helped with the tsunami that occurred just a few days ago, how did he
obtain the foresight to secure such a cell# back in August, when he
registered and last updated the domain?

Shady Ln is a very unfortunate address for any business :)

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