[Asterisk-Users] VoIP connection US -- EU with ADSL a problem ?
Hello I currently have a softphone (Firefly Soft Phone) here in Miami with a ADSL Connection (3 Mbps/ 384 Kbps) connected to a Asterisk Server in Switzerland with a ADSL (1,2 Mbps/ 200 Kbps). (both ADSL connection are not very busy. Most of the time only 1 phone call is active ) I keep having problem with the connection.. Does anybody know if the above connection and or the distance could be a problem? Thank you for the help Matt ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation sponsored by Easynews.com -- Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
RE: [Asterisk-Users] VoIP connection US -- EU with ADSL a problem ?
Well try to setup some QoS service on both router to let VoIP calls take priority over any others data. Also try to do some pinging test for 1 day or so and see if you are suffering from any packet loss. Packet loss can do a lot of harm to VoIP calls.. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mateo Meier Sent: 19 November 2005 21:14 To: asterisk-users@lists.digium.com Subject: [Asterisk-Users] VoIP connection US -- EU with ADSL a problem ? Hello I currently have a softphone (Firefly Soft Phone) here in Miami with a ADSL Connection (3 Mbps/ 384 Kbps) connected to a Asterisk Server in Switzerland with a ADSL (1,2 Mbps/ 200 Kbps). (both ADSL connection are not very busy. Most of the time only 1 phone call is active ) I keep having problem with the connection.. Does anybody know if the above connection and or the distance could be a problem? Thank you for the help Matt ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation sponsored by Easynews.com -- Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation sponsored by Easynews.com -- Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
AW: [Asterisk-Users] VoIP connection US -- EU with ADSL a problem ?
Pings are stable + / - 150 MS Grüsse / Best Regards Mateo Meier -- « hola! » see...habla espanol :-) -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Im Auftrag von Sam Tam Gesendet: Samstag, 19. November 2005 22:21 An: 'Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion' Betreff: RE: [Asterisk-Users] VoIP connection US -- EU with ADSL a problem ? Well try to setup some QoS service on both router to let VoIP calls take priority over any others data. Also try to do some pinging test for 1 day or so and see if you are suffering from any packet loss. Packet loss can do a lot of harm to VoIP calls.. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mateo Meier Sent: 19 November 2005 21:14 To: asterisk-users@lists.digium.com Subject: [Asterisk-Users] VoIP connection US -- EU with ADSL a problem ? Hello I currently have a softphone (Firefly Soft Phone) here in Miami with a ADSL Connection (3 Mbps/ 384 Kbps) connected to a Asterisk Server in Switzerland with a ADSL (1,2 Mbps/ 200 Kbps). (both ADSL connection are not very busy. Most of the time only 1 phone call is active ) I keep having problem with the connection.. Does anybody know if the above connection and or the distance could be a problem? Thank you for the help Matt ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation sponsored by Easynews.com -- Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation sponsored by Easynews.com -- Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation sponsored by Easynews.com -- Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: AW: [Asterisk-Users] VoIP connection US -- EU with ADSL a problem ?
On Sat, November 19, 2005 22:24, Mateo Meier said: Pings are stable + / - 150 MS Grüsse / Best Regards Mateo Meier I sometimes have issues as well when using a softphone from outside the local network to the (*) server. Last visit to the US (my server is in the Netherlands behind a 2048/1024 ADSL (actually running at 2048/768) connection) I had issues too, until I started up an IPsec VPN tunnel from my TeleCommuter hardware firewall to my home firewall. Once the (IAX2) connection ran over the tunnel, I had no more issues... I'm sure the IPsec tunnel created an increased latency, but when that is offset by more reliable packet delivery, the QoS actually increases... It might be something worth testing?... -- Francesco Peeters GPG Key = AA69 E7C6 1D8A F148 160C D5C4 9943 6E38 D5E3 7704 If your program doesn't recognize my signature, please visit http://www.CAcert.org/index.php?id=3 to retrieve the Root CA certificate. ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation sponsored by Easynews.com -- Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] Voip in the EU
are vendor/partners in the states and the UK is next. Also if you can reccomend any voice providers we can work with I will be in the UK next week. If you are looking for 'wholesale' voice in the UK you could give us a try, contact our sales team at [EMAIL PROTECTED] or feel free to email me off-list directly ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Linus ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] Voip in the EU
On Tue, Feb 17, 2004 at 08:05:37PM -0500, Ryan Finnesey wrote: If you can help out and post the document it would be a big help. We have picked all are vendor/partners in the states and the UK is next. Also if you can reccomend any voice providers we can work with I will be in the UK next week. http://www.gbnet.net/~steve/tel.net/cond_final0703.pdf is the document that describes the 21 obligations for a telco. Steve -- NetTek Ltd Phone/Fax +44-(0)20 7483 2455 SMS steve-epage (at) gbnet.net [body] gpg 1024D/468952DB 2001-09-19 ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] Voip in the EU
I stuck with this line of argument mainly because the current Ofcom consultation concerns secondary line VoIP. So the customer base is mainly users of Vonage etc. There are, of course many more users of telephony over IP. Iain --On Tuesday, February 17, 2004 8:42 am +0800 Steve Underwood [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Iain Stevenson wrote: The problem with the Ofcom consultation as I see it is that it seems to be regressive wrt to the position now being taken by the FCC. There are probably not many more than 250,000 VoB users worldwide so now is not the time to impose significant market constraints. Why do you quote VoB, when the use of broadband versus other internet connections is totally arbitrary? The figure you quote seems far too low for voice over internet (rather than VoIP, since a lot of the IP is on private nets). I think you will find each of the major producers of VoIPs phone has produced rather more than that. Business users alone, dumping their PBXs, must accounts for millions of lines by now. Some of that traffic goes branch to branch over private nets, but they do a lot of interconnecting with the PSTN too. Regards, Steve ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] Voip in the EU
On Mon, 16 Feb 2004, Steve Kennedy wrote: Of course Oftel doesn't exist anymore, it's all Ofcom now ... Except on a lot of their forms, which still say oftel. -- Jon Stockill [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
RE: [Asterisk-Users] Voip in the EU
Thank you, now I am off to get licensed in the UK Ryan -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Steve Kennedy Sent: Monday, February 16, 2004 5:54 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] Voip in the EU On Sat, Feb 14, 2004 at 02:47:11AM -0500, Ryan Finnesey wrote: Does anyone know where I can find some more info on the VoIP laws in the EU? VoIP in the EU hasn't been completely sorted centrally (i.e. by the EU parliament), last time they looked at it a few years ago it wasn't perceived to be entranched enough to worry about, I suspect this will change soon. In the UK Oftel put out a guide, which says if you're running VoIP services (i.e. back-end services, so maybe a SIP proxy/registration server or interconnection with the PSTN) you are a Communications Service Provider and covered by the same regulations as a traditional voice provider. Steve -- NetTek Ltd Phone/Fax +44-(0)20 7483 2455 SMS steve-epage (at) gbnet.net [body] gpg 1024D/468952DB 2001-09-19 ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] Voip in the EU
On Tue, Feb 17, 2004 at 05:31:06PM -0500, Ryan Finnesey wrote: Thank you, now I am off to get licensed in the UK Since the Communications Act came into force there are no such things as licenses per se. The Communications Act specifies 21 obligations that a Communications Service Provider operating as a Telephony Provider must abide by. I haven't got the document to hand, but could make it available if people want. It does cover lifeline/emergency services etc. Steve -- NetTek Ltd Phone/Fax +44-(0)20 7483 2455 SMS steve-epage (at) gbnet.net [body] gpg 1024D/468952DB 2001-09-19 ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
RE: [Asterisk-Users] Voip in the EU
If you can help out and post the document it would be a big help. We have picked all are vendor/partners in the states and the UK is next. Also if you can reccomend any voice providers we can work with I will be in the UK next week. Ryan -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Steve Kennedy Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2004 2:44 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] Voip in the EU On Tue, Feb 17, 2004 at 05:31:06PM -0500, Ryan Finnesey wrote: Thank you, now I am off to get licensed in the UK Since the Communications Act came into force there are no such things as licenses per se. The Communications Act specifies 21 obligations that a Communications Service Provider operating as a Telephony Provider must abide by. I haven't got the document to hand, but could make it available if people want. It does cover lifeline/emergency services etc. Steve -- NetTek Ltd Phone/Fax +44-(0)20 7483 2455 SMS steve-epage (at) gbnet.net [body] gpg 1024D/468952DB 2001-09-19 ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] Voip in the EU
On Sat, Feb 14, 2004 at 02:47:11AM -0500, Ryan Finnesey wrote: Does anyone know where I can find some more info on the VoIP laws in the EU? VoIP in the EU hasn't been completely sorted centrally (i.e. by the EU parliament), last time they looked at it a few years ago it wasn't perceived to be entranched enough to worry about, I suspect this will change soon. In the UK Oftel put out a guide, which says if you're running VoIP services (i.e. back-end services, so maybe a SIP proxy/registration server or interconnection with the PSTN) you are a Communications Service Provider and covered by the same regulations as a traditional voice provider. Steve -- NetTek Ltd Phone/Fax +44-(0)20 7483 2455 SMS steve-epage (at) gbnet.net [body] gpg 1024D/468952DB 2001-09-19 ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] Voip in the EU
Does anyone know where I can find some more info on the VoIP laws in the EU? VoIP in the EU hasn't been completely sorted centrally (i.e. by the EU parliament), last time they looked at it a few years ago it wasn't perceived to be entranched enough to worry about, I suspect this will change soon. In the UK Oftel put out a guide, which says if you're running VoIP services (i.e. back-end services, so maybe a SIP proxy/registration server or interconnection with the PSTN) you are a Communications Service Provider and covered by the same regulations as a traditional voice provider. Just to clarify this from a different direction, Oftel/Ofcom approach these things by say that they are 'technology neutral', i.e. as standard they don't care how the service is delivered, it is the service that is regulated and not the delivery mechanism. This means in theory the rules for VoIP are the same for copper, wireless, mobile etc. Linus ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] Voip in the EU
Steve Kennedy wrote: On Sat, Feb 14, 2004 at 02:47:11AM -0500, Ryan Finnesey wrote: Does anyone know where I can find some more info on the VoIP laws in the EU? VoIP in the EU hasn't been completely sorted centrally (i.e. by the EU parliament), last time they looked at it a few years ago it wasn't perceived to be entranched enough to worry about, I suspect this will change soon. In the UK Oftel put out a guide, which says if you're running VoIP services (i.e. back-end services, so maybe a SIP proxy/registration server or interconnection with the PSTN) you are a Communications Service Provider and covered by the same regulations as a traditional voice provider. Steve I am going to an Oftel meeting to discuss VoB regulation next week.. Hopefully this will help to see where it is heading.. Later.. ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] Voip in the EU
Linus Surguy wrote: Does anyone know where I can find some more info on the VoIP laws in the EU? VoIP in the EU hasn't been completely sorted centrally (i.e. by the EU parliament), last time they looked at it a few years ago it wasn't perceived to be entranched enough to worry about, I suspect this will change soon. In the UK Oftel put out a guide, which says if you're running VoIP services (i.e. back-end services, so maybe a SIP proxy/registration server or interconnection with the PSTN) you are a Communications Service Provider and covered by the same regulations as a traditional voice provider. Just to clarify this from a different direction, Oftel/Ofcom approach these things by say that they are 'technology neutral', i.e. as standard they don't care how the service is delivered, it is the service that is regulated and not the delivery mechanism. This means in theory the rules for VoIP are the same for copper, wireless, mobile etc. Linus As I understand it that is what the Ofcom VoB discussion next week is all about.. The standard line telco's have to be required to provide a service in an emegency eg during a power failure, but this is impossible for a VoIP provider sine the provider does not have control over the full path or the electricity supply.. That is only one example where VoIP cannot be regulated in the same way as standard telephone services.. In my mind there will have to be seperate regulations, there may well be some common clauses but they will still be seperate regulations.. Later.. ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] Voip in the EU
The problem with the Ofcom consultation as I see it is that it seems to be regressive wrt to the position now being taken by the FCC. There are probably not many more than 250,000 VoB users worldwide so now is not the time to impose significant market constraints. The new EU regulatory framework actually imposes very few constraints on new service providers in emerging markets such as VoIP being based as it is on the concept of significant market power (SMP). I don't think any carrier has SMP in VoB so the real issue is the extent to which Ofcom tinkers in the interpretation of the rules. Unfortunately they seem to be focusing on the red herrings of emergency service support and lawful intercept - neither of which are of much interest to users. Fixed and mobile services already provide acceptable emergency access. The real issue is the umbrella topic of Universal Service Provision and what the impact of VoIP will be on that. The tone of the Ofcom invitation to the VoB briefing focused on issues that could limit the market rather than promote it. Let's hope that the VoB briefing is followed up by some balanced and broad based consultation. Iain --On Monday, February 16, 2004 5:55 pm + WipeOut [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Linus Surguy wrote: Does anyone know where I can find some more info on the VoIP laws in the EU? VoIP in the EU hasn't been completely sorted centrally (i.e. by the EU parliament), last time they looked at it a few years ago it wasn't perceived to be entranched enough to worry about, I suspect this will change soon. In the UK Oftel put out a guide, which says if you're running VoIP services (i.e. back-end services, so maybe a SIP proxy/registration server or interconnection with the PSTN) you are a Communications Service Provider and covered by the same regulations as a traditional voice provider. Just to clarify this from a different direction, Oftel/Ofcom approach these things by say that they are 'technology neutral', i.e. as standard they don't care how the service is delivered, it is the service that is regulated and not the delivery mechanism. This means in theory the rules for VoIP are the same for copper, wireless, mobile etc. Linus As I understand it that is what the Ofcom VoB discussion next week is all about.. The standard line telco's have to be required to provide a service in an emegency eg during a power failure, but this is impossible for a VoIP provider sine the provider does not have control over the full path or the electricity supply.. That is only one example where VoIP cannot be regulated in the same way as standard telephone services.. In my mind there will have to be separate regulations, there may well be some common clauses but they will still be separate regulations.. Later.. ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] Voip in the EU
Just to clarify this from a different direction, Oftel/Ofcom approach these things by say that they are 'technology neutral', i.e. as standard they don't care how the service is delivered, it is the service that is regulated and not the delivery mechanism. This means in theory the rules for VoIP are the same for copper, wireless, mobile etc. As I understand it that is what the Ofcom VoB discussion next week is all about.. The standard line telco's have to be required to provide a service in an emegency eg during a power failure, but this is impossible for a VoIP provider sine the provider does not have control over the full path or the electricity supply.. That is only one example where VoIP cannot be regulated in the same way as standard telephone services.. Thats not completely true - UK regulations say that a standard POTS analogue phone line must work in the event of power failure, and the same is true for a single ISDN line installation, but nothing else is actually covered - if you have a PRI ISDN30 install it is actually your responsibily to make it work in a power failure condition by providing UPS etc - if you want to. Equally VoIP tends not to fall under this requirement. I think we can expect that the meeting next week is going to primarily concentrate on a) 999 emergency calling requirements and b) numbering issues. Whilst there may be some other coverage of PATS/non-PATS issues* I'm sure these will be the main focus. Linus * Other PATS issues are things like directory enquiries/operator assistance/providing directories/itemised billing/service for the blind etc. ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] Voip in the EU
On Mon, Feb 16, 2004 at 07:38:15PM +, Iain Stevenson wrote: The problem with the Ofcom consultation as I see it is that it seems to be regressive wrt to the position now being taken by the FCC. There are probably not many more than 250,000 VoB users worldwide so now is not the time to impose significant market constraints. The new EU regulatory framework actually imposes very few constraints on new service providers in emerging markets such as VoIP being based as it is on the concept of significant market power (SMP). I don't think any carrier has SMP in VoB so the real issue is the extent to which Ofcom tinkers in the interpretation of the rules. Not on the end-users, but as a Communications Service Provider what differentiates you from a regular POTS Communications Service Provider ? In the UK it's all covered by the Communications Act and a telco (as they were) has to meet 21 obligations under the Act. SMP refers to companies such as BT in the UK (who dominate the market), and potentially Mercury in the past, as these are specifically regulated. Unfortunately they seem to be focusing on the red herrings of emergency service support and lawful intercept - neither of which are of much interest to users. Fixed and mobile services already provide acceptable emergency access. The real issue is the umbrella topic of Universal Service Provision and what the impact of VoIP will be on that. Emegency service support isn't a red herring, it's an obligation for fixed line operators (and definately to residential users). Currently VoB is mainly geared at people with DSL or cable modem access i.e. they already have a phone line (this is definately true for BT's service they recently introduced, you MUST be a residential customer with an existing phone service, no QoS guarantees etc). Lawful intercept is also a must both as part of the Comms Act and RIP Act (fixed and mobile operators have facilities to do this, a VoIP provider shouldn't be treated differently). The tone of the Ofcom invitation to the VoB briefing focused on issues that could limit the market rather than promote it. Let's hope that the VoB briefing is followed up by some balanced and broad based consultation. Ofcom is ensuring the Comms Act is adhered to ... Steve -- NetTek Ltd Phone/Fax +44-(0)20 7483 2455 SMS steve-epage (at) gbnet.net [body] gpg 1024D/468952DB 2001-09-19 ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] Voip in the EU
Iain Stevenson wrote: The problem with the Ofcom consultation as I see it is that it seems to be regressive wrt to the position now being taken by the FCC. There are probably not many more than 250,000 VoB users worldwide so now is not the time to impose significant market constraints. Why do you quote VoB, when the use of broadband versus other internet connections is totally arbitrary? The figure you quote seems far too low for voice over internet (rather than VoIP, since a lot of the IP is on private nets). I think you will find each of the major producers of VoIPs phone has produced rather more than that. Business users alone, dumping their PBXs, must accounts for millions of lines by now. Some of that traffic goes branch to branch over private nets, but they do a lot of interconnecting with the PSTN too. Regards, Steve ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] Voip in the EU
On Mon, Feb 16, 2004 at 04:51:08PM +, WipeOut wrote: I am going to an Oftel meeting to discuss VoB regulation next week.. Hopefully this will help to see where it is heading.. Of course Oftel doesn't exist anymore, it's all Ofcom now ... Steve -- NetTek Ltd Phone/Fax +44-(0)20 7483 2455 SMS steve-epage (at) gbnet.net [body] gpg 1024D/468952DB 2001-09-19 ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] Voip in the EU
Well, since they restricted attendance to service providers and representatives of consumer organisations I wouldn't be too optimistic for a balanced outcome ;-) Iain --On Monday, February 16, 2004 4:51 pm + WipeOut [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Steve Kennedy wrote: On Sat, Feb 14, 2004 at 02:47:11AM -0500, Ryan Finnesey wrote: Does anyone know where I can find some more info on the VoIP laws in the EU? VoIP in the EU hasn't been completely sorted centrally (i.e. by the EU parliament), last time they looked at it a few years ago it wasn't perceived to be entranched enough to worry about, I suspect this will change soon. In the UK Oftel put out a guide, which says if you're running VoIP services (i.e. back-end services, so maybe a SIP proxy/registration server or interconnection with the PSTN) you are a Communications Service Provider and covered by the same regulations as a traditional voice provider. Steve I am going to an Oftel meeting to discuss VoB regulation next week.. Hopefully this will help to see where it is heading.. Later.. ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
[Asterisk-Users] Voip in the EU
Does anyone know where I can find some more info on the VoIP laws in the EU? Ryan
