RE: [Asterisk-Users] Zaptel TDM questions

2005-10-05 Thread Chee Foong



Yes, 
we have an applications that needs to detect the actual answer of the call not 
when it is ringing.

CCF

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  [Asterisk-Users] Zaptel TDM questions
  I think the Asterisk must answer the call to be 
  able to then dial out on the second port. This is what happens on any 
  other PBX I have worked with in this sort of scenario. Is this a problem 
  for you?
  
  Angus
  
  
  
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Chee 
Foong 
To: asterisk-users@lists.digium.com 

Sent: Friday, September 30, 2005 10:20 
AM
Subject: [Asterisk-Users] Zaptel TDM 
questions

Hello,

I have a 
TDM04B. I make a call into the first port of the card. Once asterisk receive 
the call, it will make another call out using the second port. 

From what i have 
observerd as soon as the called party on the second port starts ringing 
asterisk show the following :

-- Zap/2-1 
answered Zap/1-1

Any idea why 
asterisk thinks the call has been answered while actually the phone is still 
ringing?

Anybody know how 
to avoid asterisk to answer the call while ringing? 
Also, I have no 
Answer or any Playbackcommand in the dial plan before making a call 
out of second port. I have also try setting callprogress to yes/no but the 
results are the same.

Thanks


CCF



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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Zaptel TDM questions

2005-10-05 Thread Angus Comber



Could you not just ignore the first answer and 
watch out for the answer when the remote end picks up?

Angus



  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Chee 
  Foong 
  To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - 
  Non-Commercial Discussion 
  Sent: Wednesday, October 05, 2005 11:35 
  AM
  Subject: RE: [Asterisk-Users] Zaptel TDM 
  questions
  
  Yes, 
  we have an applications that needs to detect the actual answer of the call not 
  when it is ringing.
  
  CCF
  
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of Angus 
ComberSent: Friday, September 30, 2005 19:18To: 
Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial DiscussionSubject: 
Re: [Asterisk-Users] Zaptel TDM questions
I think the Asterisk must answer the call to be 
able to then dial out on the second port. This is what happens on any 
other PBX I have worked with in this sort of scenario. Is this a 
problem for you?

Angus



  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Chee 
  Foong 
  To: asterisk-users@lists.digium.com 
  
  Sent: Friday, September 30, 2005 
  10:20 AM
  Subject: [Asterisk-Users] Zaptel TDM 
  questions
  
  Hello,
  
  I have a 
  TDM04B. I make a call into the first port of the card. Once asterisk 
  receive the call, it will make another call out using the second 
  port. 
  From what i 
  have observerd as soon as the called party on the second port starts 
  ringing asterisk show the following :
  
  -- Zap/2-1 
  answered Zap/1-1
  
  Any idea why 
  asterisk thinks the call has been answered while actually the phone is 
  still ringing?
  
  Anybody know 
  how to avoid asterisk to answer the call while ringing? 
  
  Also, I have 
  no Answer or any Playbackcommand in the dial plan before making a 
  call out of second port. I have also try setting callprogress to yes/no 
  but the results are the same.
  
  Thanks
  
  
  CCF
  
  

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RE: [Asterisk-Users] Zaptel TDM questions

2005-10-05 Thread Rich Adamson
I'll jump in here with a couple of comments...

What you're trying to deal with is detecting answer supervision for the
outbound call, and not all telco's provide that. Since there is a wide
variation (in and out of the US), asterisk does not try to detect when a
call has been answered. It considers that outbound call answered as sson
as it is done dialing.

What does your telco provide to you on analog pstn lines for answer
supervision?

There is a high probability your telco isn't providing anything. In some
cases, the telco can turn options for this but you still need to know
what they are going to send to you. Could be a tone or simple reversal
of tip/ring voltage.


 Yes, we have an applications that needs to detect the actual answer of the 
 call not when it is 
ringing.
  
 CCF
 
 I think the Asterisk must answer the call to be able to then dial out on 
 the second port.  
This is what happens on any other PBX I have
 worked with in this sort of scenario.  Is this a problem for you?
  
 Angus
  
  
 Hello,
  
 I have a TDM04B. I make a call into the first port of the card. Once 
 asterisk receive 
the call, it will make another call out using the
 second port.
 From what i have observerd as soon as the called party on the second 
 port starts ringing 
asterisk show the following :
  
 -- Zap/2-1 answered Zap/1-1
  
 Any idea why asterisk thinks the call has been answered while 
 actually the phone is 
still ringing?
  
 Anybody know how to avoid asterisk to answer the call while ringing?
 Also, I have no Answer or any Playback command in the dial plan 
 before making a call out 
of second port. I have also try setting
 callprogress to yes/no but the results are the same.
  


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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Zaptel TDM questions

2005-10-05 Thread John Novack



Rich Adamson wrote:


I'll jump in here with a couple of comments...

What you're trying to deal with is detecting answer supervision for the 
outbound call, and not all telco's provide that. Since there is a wide variation (in and 
out of the US), asterisk does not try to detect when a call has been answered. It 
considers that outbound call answered as sson as it is done dialing.
 

Perhaps though, a configurable option to set that to xx seconds would be 
useful, much as many LD resellers used to do for billing. If the call 
was up for longer than, lets say, 30 seconds, it was assumed to have 
been answered and billing would start.


John Novack

 


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[Asterisk-Users] Zaptel TDM questions

2005-09-30 Thread Chee Foong



Hello,

I have a 
TDM04B. I make a call into the first port of the card. Once asterisk receive the 
call, it will make another call out using the second port. 

From what i have 
observerd as soon as the called party on the second port starts ringing asterisk 
show the following :

-- Zap/2-1 answered 
Zap/1-1

Any idea why 
asterisk thinks the call has been answered while actually the phone is still 
ringing?

Anybody know how to 
avoid asterisk to answer the call while ringing? 
Also, I have no 
Answer or any Playbackcommand in the dial plan before making a call out of 
second port. I have also try setting callprogress to yes/no but the results are 
the same.

Thanks


CCF
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Zaptel TDM questions

2005-09-30 Thread Angus Comber



I think the Asterisk must answer the call to be 
able to then dial out on the second port. This is what happens on any 
other PBX I have worked with in this sort of scenario. Is this a problem 
for you?

Angus



  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Chee 
  Foong 
  To: asterisk-users@lists.digium.com 
  
  Sent: Friday, September 30, 2005 10:20 
  AM
  Subject: [Asterisk-Users] Zaptel TDM 
  questions
  
  Hello,
  
  I have a 
  TDM04B. I make a call into the first port of the card. Once asterisk receive 
  the call, it will make another call out using the second port. 
  
  From what i have 
  observerd as soon as the called party on the second port starts ringing 
  asterisk show the following :
  
  -- Zap/2-1 
  answered Zap/1-1
  
  Any idea why 
  asterisk thinks the call has been answered while actually the phone is still 
  ringing?
  
  Anybody know how 
  to avoid asterisk to answer the call while ringing? 
  Also, I have no 
  Answer or any Playbackcommand in the dial plan before making a call out 
  of second port. I have also try setting callprogress to yes/no but the results 
  are the same.
  
  Thanks
  
  
  CCF
  
  

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