Re: [asterisk-users] IP Phone recommendation

[mtha...@gmail.com]

try Yealink, this is damn good phone and we distribute  in India.

Rgards

MT Kondela
www.kevesystems.com

On 2/10/10, Sebastian Milioto  wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I have to install 25 IP Phone in some building. I want just basic IP Phones
> like:
>
>
> Cisco-Linksys SPA922  u$s 146
> Grandstream GXP-2000   u$s 105
> Snom 300   u$s 119
>
> The most valuables parameters for me are (in importance order from high to
> low):
>
> - Stability (device don't hang in any way)
> - Voice quality using G729
> - Provisioning
>
> So what device do you suggest according I said above?
> Is there another device which deserves attention?
>
> Thanks very much in advance,
>
> Sebastian
>
>
> 
> Sebastian Milioto
> ITC
> Cid Campeadro 440
> Rio Tercero, Cordoba, Argentina
> msn: sebamili...@hotmail.com
> 
>

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Re: [asterisk-users] IP Phone recommendation

[Robert Broyles]

Sebastian Milioto wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I have to install 25 IP Phone in some building. I want just basic IP 
> Phones like:
>
>
> Cisco-Linksys SPA922  u$s 146
> Grandstream GXP-2000   u$s 105
> Snom 300   u$s 119
>
> The most valuables parameters for me are (in importance order from 
> high to low):
>
> - Stability (device don't hang in any way)
> - Voice quality using G729
> - Provisioning
>
> So what device do you suggest according I said above?
> Is there another device which deserves attention?
>
> Thanks very much in advance,
>
> Sebastian
>
>
> 
> Sebastian Milioto
> ITC
> Cid Campeadro 440
> Rio Tercero, Cordoba, Argentina
> msn: sebamili...@hotmail.com 
> 

We use Linksys SPA's and SNOM in our offices, and couldn't be happier.



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Re: [asterisk-users] IP Phone recommendation

[Sebastian Milioto]

SPA504G seems to be a good choice since I don't want to have any issues and
this still have the same provisioning scheme I'm working right now.
Also I like the HD feature.. what is the bandwith consumption for that
feature? It will work only between 2 spa504 right? or any G722 device can
interoperate with it?

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Re: [asterisk-users] IP Phone recommendation

[Gordon Henderson]

On Thu, 11 Feb 2010, Alex Balashov wrote:

> I have always found that the marginal extra cost of a Polycom, Snom or
> Cisco phone is very, very well worth it in the long run versus the
> giant catastrophe that is Grandstream and other low-budget hardware.
> The customers seem to agree.
>
> "Budget-conscious" doesn't have to mean "masochistic."

I actually give customers the choice - maybe that's their downfall!

(or mine!)

But the GXP2000 has been a very good platform for me. I'm still happy to 
use it.

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Re: [asterisk-users] IP Phone recommendation

[Alex Balashov]

I have always found that the marginal extra cost of a Polycom, Snom or  
Cisco phone is very, very well worth it in the long run versus the  
giant catastrophe that is Grandstream and other low-budget hardware.  
The customers seem to agree.

"Budget-conscious" doesn't have to mean "masochistic."

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On Feb 11, 2010, at 6:37 AM, Gordon Henderson  wrote:

> On Wed, 10 Feb 2010, Jeff LaCoursiere wrote:
>
>> I haven't used any standard Grandstream IP phones, but I am  
>> *trying* to
>> stabalize the new video phones they have come up with.  I have  
>> several
>> GXV3000 and GXV3140s.  I got through central provisioning using  
>> their java
>> based tool and for the most part these phones work, but have very odd
>> bugs.  If left to itself for more than a few days the 3140 simply  
>> stops
>> answering calls.  The 3000 has very odd DTMF issues - like doubling  
>> every
>> digit pressed.  This is all fine and I know they are new products,  
>> but
>> what is frustrating is Grandstream's lack of support.  The forums  
>> are next
>> to useless, and the firmware releases are always "coming very soon".
>
> I have 4 GXV 3000's.
>
> They're in a "residential" setting - my own/wifes family so we can  
> keep
> in-touch and see the new baby...
>
> I would not recomend them for business use just yet though - and by  
> the
> sounds of it, the others have issues too.
>
> And the 3000's are not that new - at least a year old!
>
>> Then there are my horrid experiences with their FXO gateways.   
>> Echo, bad
>> audio in general, needing a reboot every few days, etc.  Again,  
>> support is
>> non existant.
>
> I've rescued 2 companies so-far from their PBX device and installed
> Asterisk boxes. The few handytones I've used have seemed OK though.
>
>> So regardless of the quality of the latest phones, the company itself
>> leaves a lot to be desired IMO.
>
> Even though I use their phones, I'd have to agree here. They do have  
> some
> nice innovations, but I get the feeling that they've bitten off more  
> than
> they can chew - for the money I've not found anything better than the
> GXP2000 - and my clients, who always seem to be budget concious SMEs
> (mostly 5-20 staff) like them too, but ...
>
> But Grandstream, if you're listening - Get a Grip! You could have
> something really good here, if only ...
>
> Gordon
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Re: [asterisk-users] IP Phone recommendation

[Gordon Henderson]

On Wed, 10 Feb 2010, Jeff LaCoursiere wrote:

> I haven't used any standard Grandstream IP phones, but I am *trying* to
> stabalize the new video phones they have come up with.  I have several
> GXV3000 and GXV3140s.  I got through central provisioning using their java
> based tool and for the most part these phones work, but have very odd
> bugs.  If left to itself for more than a few days the 3140 simply stops
> answering calls.  The 3000 has very odd DTMF issues - like doubling every
> digit pressed.  This is all fine and I know they are new products, but
> what is frustrating is Grandstream's lack of support.  The forums are next
> to useless, and the firmware releases are always "coming very soon".

I have 4 GXV 3000's.

They're in a "residential" setting - my own/wifes family so we can keep 
in-touch and see the new baby...

I would not recomend them for business use just yet though - and by the 
sounds of it, the others have issues too.

And the 3000's are not that new - at least a year old!

> Then there are my horrid experiences with their FXO gateways.  Echo, bad
> audio in general, needing a reboot every few days, etc.  Again, support is
> non existant.

I've rescued 2 companies so-far from their PBX device and installed 
Asterisk boxes. The few handytones I've used have seemed OK though.

> So regardless of the quality of the latest phones, the company itself
> leaves a lot to be desired IMO.

Even though I use their phones, I'd have to agree here. They do have some 
nice innovations, but I get the feeling that they've bitten off more than 
they can chew - for the money I've not found anything better than the 
GXP2000 - and my clients, who always seem to be budget concious SMEs 
(mostly 5-20 staff) like them too, but ...

But Grandstream, if you're listening - Get a Grip! You could have 
something really good here, if only ...

Gordon

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Re: [asterisk-users] IP Phone recommendation

[Philipp von Klitzing]

Hi!

> On the 'used' market I can't really fault the Swissvoice 1P10S (The
> SIP version). Web Browser/Phone configuration, simple, works flawlessly
> with Asterisk, can take a headset and around £10-£20 used. 

Agreed - but do note that this is a single line phone (correct me if I am 
wrong). And although hardly anyone will be interested: It also works fine 
with Asterisk using MGCP instead of SIP.

By the way it appears that Innovaphone is still selling this as "IP110".
http://www.innovaphone.com/index.php?id=125&L=0

The latest SIP firmware I am aware of is dated Jul 2006: build 101b4
If anyone happens to know about a later version I'd be interested to 
learn more about it.

Philipp


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Re: [asterisk-users] IP Phone recommendation

[Brian]

On the 'used' market I can't really fault the Swissvoice 1P10S (The SIP
version). Web Browser/Phone configuration, simple, works flawlessly with
Asterisk, can take a headset and around £10-£20 used.


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Re: [asterisk-users] IP Phone recommendation

[Ishfaq Malik]

Hi

We use Snom phones pretty exclusively and find them to be really good. 
So long as you get the firmware version up to 7.3.28 you shouldn't have 
any issues.

They are really good for remote configuring and management and also have 
a really nice web interface for the user to use if the phones and PCs 
are on the same network.

Ish

Pascal Bruno wrote:
> I would love to hear some inputs on Aastra and Snom IP phones.
>
>
>
> On Wed, Feb 10, 2010 at 4:36 PM, Jeff LaCoursiere  > wrote:
>
>
> On Wed, 10 Feb 2010, Tim Nelson wrote:
>
> > - "Gordon Henderson"  > wrote:
> >> If not using PoE I'd suggest getting a few extra PSUs though -
> that's
> >> one
> >> area I have had a few issues with - but maybe it's just been the UK
> >> ones.
> >>
> >> Gordon
> >
> > The same can be said for the US versions. My experience has been
> it's not a case of 'if' the PSU will fail, but 'when'. In a past
> (less intelligent) life, I deployed a fair number of the GXP2020s
> and GXP2000s. There are not very many of them left that haven't
> completely died(the phone itself), and of those left, they've all
> had power supplies replaced.
> >
> > I cannot speak for the quality of the later devices from
> Grandstream. After being burned, it's a bit hard to look at them
> again when there are so many other quality devices available
> (think Polycom, Aastra, etc).
> >
> > --Tim
> >
>
> I haven't used any standard Grandstream IP phones, but I am
> *trying* to
> stabalize the new video phones they have come up with.  I have several
> GXV3000 and GXV3140s.  I got through central provisioning using
> their java
> based tool and for the most part these phones work, but have very odd
> bugs.  If left to itself for more than a few days the 3140 simply
> stops
> answering calls.  The 3000 has very odd DTMF issues - like
> doubling every
> digit pressed.  This is all fine and I know they are new products, but
> what is frustrating is Grandstream's lack of support.  The forums
> are next
> to useless, and the firmware releases are always "coming very soon".
>
> Then there are my horrid experiences with their FXO gateways.
>  Echo, bad
> audio in general, needing a reboot every few days, etc.  Again,
> support is
> non existant.
>
> So regardless of the quality of the latest phones, the company itself
> leaves a lot to be desired IMO.
>
> j
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Re: [asterisk-users] IP Phone recommendation

[Ira]

At 02:18 PM 2/10/2010, you wrote:
>I would love to hear some inputs on Aastra and Snom IP phones.

I've have 3 480i-CT Aastra phones in our house for 3 or 4 years now 
with no complaints. Took a year for the firmware to get where it is 
and there were some things I'd like changed, but I can't remember 
what they are any more. Other than loosing 1 cordless handset they've 
been rock solid.

Ira 


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Re: [asterisk-users] IP Phone recommendation

[Richard Kenner]

> I would love to hear some inputs on Aastra and Snom IP phones.

I'm using Aastra 57i phones and like them.  They can provisioned easily
(without ANY entries from a local network).  The support BLF and I'm also
using the XML capability.

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Re: [asterisk-users] IP Phone recommendation

[Pascal Bruno]

I would love to hear some inputs on Aastra and Snom IP phones.



On Wed, Feb 10, 2010 at 4:36 PM, Jeff LaCoursiere  wrote:

>
> On Wed, 10 Feb 2010, Tim Nelson wrote:
>
> > - "Gordon Henderson" 
> > >
> wrote:
> >> If not using PoE I'd suggest getting a few extra PSUs though - that's
> >> one
> >> area I have had a few issues with - but maybe it's just been the UK
> >> ones.
> >>
> >> Gordon
> >
> > The same can be said for the US versions. My experience has been it's not
> a case of 'if' the PSU will fail, but 'when'. In a past (less intelligent)
> life, I deployed a fair number of the GXP2020s and GXP2000s. There are not
> very many of them left that haven't completely died(the phone itself), and
> of those left, they've all had power supplies replaced.
> >
> > I cannot speak for the quality of the later devices from Grandstream.
> After being burned, it's a bit hard to look at them again when there are so
> many other quality devices available (think Polycom, Aastra, etc).
> >
> > --Tim
> >
>
> I haven't used any standard Grandstream IP phones, but I am *trying* to
> stabalize the new video phones they have come up with.  I have several
> GXV3000 and GXV3140s.  I got through central provisioning using their java
> based tool and for the most part these phones work, but have very odd
> bugs.  If left to itself for more than a few days the 3140 simply stops
> answering calls.  The 3000 has very odd DTMF issues - like doubling every
> digit pressed.  This is all fine and I know they are new products, but
> what is frustrating is Grandstream's lack of support.  The forums are next
> to useless, and the firmware releases are always "coming very soon".
>
> Then there are my horrid experiences with their FXO gateways.  Echo, bad
> audio in general, needing a reboot every few days, etc.  Again, support is
> non existant.
>
> So regardless of the quality of the latest phones, the company itself
> leaves a lot to be desired IMO.
>
> j
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Re: [asterisk-users] IP Phone recommendation

[Warren Selby]

On Wed, Feb 10, 2010 at 3:21 PM, Philipp von Klitzing <
klitz...@pool.informatik.rwth-aachen.de> wrote:

> Here are two quotes that make me stay away from Cisco/Linksys:
>
> "Firmware can be downloaded from the Cisco Support Center (registered
> partners only - password required) [...]
> Here is a 96-second screencast showing navigation to the firmware:
> http://screencast.com/t/CUnxfoAX";
>
> A 1.5 min screencast to explain how to download firmware?! ;-)
>
>
The SPA firmware only requires free registration - you do not need to have a
SmartNET contract to get the firmware (according to their site and the
conversation I had with the Cisco SPA rep at Astricon).

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Re: [asterisk-users] IP Phone recommendation

[Jeff LaCoursiere]

On Wed, 10 Feb 2010, Tim Nelson wrote:

> - "Gordon Henderson"  wrote:
>> If not using PoE I'd suggest getting a few extra PSUs though - that's
>> one
>> area I have had a few issues with - but maybe it's just been the UK
>> ones.
>>
>> Gordon
>
> The same can be said for the US versions. My experience has been it's not a 
> case of 'if' the PSU will fail, but 'when'. In a past (less intelligent) 
> life, I deployed a fair number of the GXP2020s and GXP2000s. There are not 
> very many of them left that haven't completely died(the phone itself), and of 
> those left, they've all had power supplies replaced.
>
> I cannot speak for the quality of the later devices from Grandstream. After 
> being burned, it's a bit hard to look at them again when there are so many 
> other quality devices available (think Polycom, Aastra, etc).
>
> --Tim
>

I haven't used any standard Grandstream IP phones, but I am *trying* to 
stabalize the new video phones they have come up with.  I have several 
GXV3000 and GXV3140s.  I got through central provisioning using their java 
based tool and for the most part these phones work, but have very odd 
bugs.  If left to itself for more than a few days the 3140 simply stops 
answering calls.  The 3000 has very odd DTMF issues - like doubling every 
digit pressed.  This is all fine and I know they are new products, but 
what is frustrating is Grandstream's lack of support.  The forums are next 
to useless, and the firmware releases are always "coming very soon".

Then there are my horrid experiences with their FXO gateways.  Echo, bad 
audio in general, needing a reboot every few days, etc.  Again, support is 
non existant.

So regardless of the quality of the latest phones, the company itself 
leaves a lot to be desired IMO.

j

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Re: [asterisk-users] IP Phone recommendation

[Philipp von Klitzing]

Hi!

> Lack of features on the 7940's is frustrating, and makes me hesitant to
> try other Cisco phones, even if the SPA504G is newer. 

Here are two quotes that make me stay away from Cisco/Linksys:

"Firmware can be downloaded from the Cisco Support Center (registered 
partners only - password required) [...]
Here is a 96-second screencast showing navigation to the firmware:
http://screencast.com/t/CUnxfoAX";

A 1.5 min screencast to explain how to download firmware?! ;-)

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Re: [asterisk-users] IP Phone recommendation

[Tim Nelson]

- "Gordon Henderson"  wrote:
> If not using PoE I'd suggest getting a few extra PSUs though - that's
> one 
> area I have had a few issues with - but maybe it's just been the UK
> ones.
> 
> Gordon

The same can be said for the US versions. My experience has been it's not a 
case of 'if' the PSU will fail, but 'when'. In a past (less intelligent) life, 
I deployed a fair number of the GXP2020s and GXP2000s. There are not very many 
of them left that haven't completely died(the phone itself), and of those left, 
they've all had power supplies replaced.

I cannot speak for the quality of the later devices from Grandstream. After 
being burned, it's a bit hard to look at them again when there are so many 
other quality devices available (think Polycom, Aastra, etc).

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Re: [asterisk-users] IP Phone recommendation

[Peter]

SPA504G is LINKSYS with newer look  and HD :-)
Expect all you had in Linksys SPA9XX + more.

I personaly have both phones - differences are not  a lot :)
Peter




On 10.2.2010 20:31, Jeffrey Ollie wrote:
> On Wed, Feb 10, 2010 at 12:23 PM, Brent Torrenga  wrote:
>>
>> Coming from someone who uses 7940's and 60's:  has Cisco/Linksys embraced
>> SIP compatibility with asterisk more completely with the SPA504G's than they
>> have the 7940 series?  Lack of features on the 7940's is frustrating, and
>> makes me hesitant to try other Cisco phones, even if the SPA504G is newer.
> 
> SIP support in newer generations of the 79XX series is much better.  I
> believe that their goal is to have 100% feature parity between the SIP
> and the SCCP images, they are probably 90% now.  Whether Asterisk
> supports all of those features is another matter though.
> 

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Re: [asterisk-users] IP Phone recommendation

[Gordon Henderson]

On Wed, 10 Feb 2010, Sebastian Milioto wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> I have to install 25 IP Phone in some building. I want just basic IP Phones
> like:
>
>
> Cisco-Linksys SPA922  u$s 146
> Grandstream GXP-2000   u$s 105
> Snom 300   u$s 119
>
> The most valuables parameters for me are (in importance order from high to
> low):
>
> - Stability (device don't hang in any way)
> - Voice quality using G729
> - Provisioning
>
> So what device do you suggest according I said above?
> Is there another device which deserves attention?

Since you've had one negative for the Grandstream, I'll balance it and 
give them a positive...

Now, it's true to say that Grandstream phones haven't been without their 
probems in the past, but the current generation are really nice. The 
GXP2000 has been about for a long time too and I've not had any issues 
with them in the past 18 months or so. They've undergone a few hardware 
revisions too. I statically provision all my phones and use a perl utility 
called gsutil. They can be provisioned from a tftp server though, but I've 
never done this.

They sound fine, and have plenty of features that are easy to use - call 
transfer - big backlit display (now variable contrast and brigtness) 7 
easy to use speed dial/BLF buttons, etc.

If not using PoE I'd suggest getting a few extra PSUs though - that's one 
area I have had a few issues with - but maybe it's just been the UK ones.

Gordon

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Re: [asterisk-users] IP Phone recommendation

[Warren Selby]

On Wed, Feb 10, 2010 at 12:23 PM, Brent Torrenga  wrote:

> Coming from someone who uses 7940's and 60's:  has Cisco/Linksys embraced
> SIP compatibility with asterisk more completely with the SPA504G's than
> they
> have the 7940 series?  Lack of features on the 7940's is frustrating, and
> makes me hesitant to try other Cisco phones, even if the SPA504G is newer.
>
> --Brent
>

I talked to the Cisco SPA guy at the 2009 Astricon convention about this -
according to him, the SPA line is a completely different team than the 79xx
series team. Thus, the SPA (and especially the new SPA5xx series) had better
support for SIP out of the box, because that's what they were originally
designed for (whereas the 79xx series was built for SCCP and CUCM).  There
was even a document (https://www.myciscocommunity.com/docs/DOC-10647) that
listed how to make the SPA5xx series phones work with asterisk.

The phones were really nice, but I haven't seen one outside of a
demonstration environment.  As far the OP's question, I've successfully used
Polycom, Cisco, and Aastra phones, all in the price range listed, that have
been very nice and support all the options you've requested.

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Re: [asterisk-users] IP Phone recommendation

[Jeffrey Ollie]

On Wed, Feb 10, 2010 at 12:23 PM, Brent Torrenga  wrote:
>
> Coming from someone who uses 7940's and 60's:  has Cisco/Linksys embraced
> SIP compatibility with asterisk more completely with the SPA504G's than they
> have the 7940 series?  Lack of features on the 7940's is frustrating, and
> makes me hesitant to try other Cisco phones, even if the SPA504G is newer.

SIP support in newer generations of the 79XX series is much better.  I
believe that their goal is to have 100% feature parity between the SIP
and the SCCP images, they are probably 90% now.  Whether Asterisk
supports all of those features is another matter though.

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Re: [asterisk-users] IP Phone recommendation

[Brent Torrenga]

>SPA504G - 1 more vote for it.
>
>It is worth having 4 lines even if you need 1 initially.
>
>SPA504G supports G722 and sound is awesome even if you do not not use
>teh HD sound. If you do not care that mcuh about HD sound  and do not
>need PoE SPA941 is a excellent choice -  you get really a lot for the price
>
>Peter

Coming from someone who uses 7940's and 60's:  has Cisco/Linksys embraced
SIP compatibility with asterisk more completely with the SPA504G's than they
have the 7940 series?  Lack of features on the 7940's is frustrating, and
makes me hesitant to try other Cisco phones, even if the SPA504G is newer.

--Brent


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Re: [asterisk-users] IP Phone recommendation

[Sebastian Milioto]

I see... problem with spa941 is it dont have LAN port (I'm thinking NAT the
customer PC)


Sebastian



On Wed, Feb 10, 2010 at 2:10 PM, Peter  wrote:

> On 10.2.2010 18:06, Steve Howes wrote:
> > On 10 Feb 2010, at 15:50, Peder wrote:
> >> check out the Cisco SPA504G.  They are the newer versions of the
> >> SPA922, support multiple lines and are fairly cheap too.
> >
> > I second that. They're rock solid, good audio quality and easy to
> > provision.
> >
> > S
> >
>
>
> SPA504G - 1 more vote for it.
>
> It is worth having 4 lines even if you need 1 initially.
>
> SPA504G supports G722 and sound is awesome even if you do not not use
> teh HD sound. If you do not care that mcuh about HD sound  and do not
> need PoE SPA941 is a excellent choice -  you get really a lot for the price
>
> Peter
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Re: [asterisk-users] IP Phone recommendation

[Peter]

On 10.2.2010 18:06, Steve Howes wrote:
> On 10 Feb 2010, at 15:50, Peder wrote:
>> check out the Cisco SPA504G.  They are the newer versions of the  
>> SPA922, support multiple lines and are fairly cheap too.
> 
> I second that. They're rock solid, good audio quality and easy to  
> provision.
> 
> S
> 


SPA504G - 1 more vote for it.

It is worth having 4 lines even if you need 1 initially.

SPA504G supports G722 and sound is awesome even if you do not not use
teh HD sound. If you do not care that mcuh about HD sound  and do not
need PoE SPA941 is a excellent choice -  you get really a lot for the price

Peter

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Re: [asterisk-users] IP Phone recommendation

[Tommy Botten Jensen]

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I'd like to jump in here as well, with the Aastra 57i. It is easy to
configure with asterisk, provision and is not that badly priced either.

- - Tommy

William Stillwell (Lists) skrev:
> Polycom 331’s are also in the same price range, and offer good features
> as well.
> 
>  
> 
> All my polycoms are provisions with option 66 on dhcp, and an ftp site
> with cfg files that are build from a mysql database from sip users table.
> 
>  
> 
> *From:* asterisk-users-boun...@lists.digium.com
> [mailto:asterisk-users-boun...@lists.digium.com] *On Behalf Of *Peder
> *Sent:* Wednesday, February 10, 2010 10:51 AM
> *To:* 'Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion'
> *Subject:* Re: [asterisk-users] IP Phone recommendation
> 
>  
> 
> Don’t use Grandstream if you want quality and stability.  Also check out
> the Cisco SPA504G.  They are the newer versions of the SPA922, support
> multiple lines and are fairly cheap too.
> 
>  
> 
> *From:* asterisk-users-boun...@lists.digium.com
> [mailto:asterisk-users-boun...@lists.digium.com] *On Behalf Of
> *Sebastian Milioto
> *Sent:* Wednesday, February 10, 2010 9:39 AM
> *To:* Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion
> *Subject:* [asterisk-users] IP Phone recommendation
> 
>  
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> I have to install 25 IP Phone in some building. I want just basic IP
> Phones like:
> 
> 
> Cisco-Linksys SPA922  u$s 146
> Grandstream GXP-2000   u$s 105
> Snom 300   u$s 119
> 
> The most valuables parameters for me are (in importance order from high
> to low):
> 
> - Stability (device don't hang in any way)
> - Voice quality using G729
> - Provisioning
> 
> So what device do you suggest according I said above?
> Is there another device which deserves attention?
> 
> Thanks very much in advance,
> 
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Re: [asterisk-users] IP Phone recommendation

[William Stillwell (Lists)]

Polycom 331's are also in the same price range, and offer good features as
well.

 

All my polycoms are provisions with option 66 on dhcp, and an ftp site with
cfg files that are build from a mysql database from sip users table.

 

From: asterisk-users-boun...@lists.digium.com
[mailto:asterisk-users-boun...@lists.digium.com] On Behalf Of Peder
Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2010 10:51 AM
To: 'Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion'
Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] IP Phone recommendation

 

Don't use Grandstream if you want quality and stability.  Also check out the
Cisco SPA504G.  They are the newer versions of the SPA922, support multiple
lines and are fairly cheap too.

 

From: asterisk-users-boun...@lists.digium.com
[mailto:asterisk-users-boun...@lists.digium.com] On Behalf Of Sebastian
Milioto
Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2010 9:39 AM
To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion
Subject: [asterisk-users] IP Phone recommendation

 

Hi all,

I have to install 25 IP Phone in some building. I want just basic IP Phones
like:


Cisco-Linksys SPA922  u$s 146 
Grandstream GXP-2000   u$s 105
Snom 300   u$s 119 

The most valuables parameters for me are (in importance order from high to
low):

- Stability (device don't hang in any way)
- Voice quality using G729
- Provisioning

So what device do you suggest according I said above?
Is there another device which deserves attention?

Thanks very much in advance,

Sebastian



Sebastian Milioto
ITC 
Cid Campeadro 440
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Re: [asterisk-users] IP Phone recommendation

[Steve Howes]

On 10 Feb 2010, at 15:50, Peder wrote:
> check out the Cisco SPA504G.  They are the newer versions of the  
> SPA922, support multiple lines and are fairly cheap too.

I second that. They're rock solid, good audio quality and easy to  
provision.

S

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Re: [asterisk-users] IP Phone recommendation

[Dan Journo]

I was recommended Polycom phones. I tested some. And now, I LOVE them.

Look at the Polycom IP321.

It's a great phone with provisioning and two lines. Dont know about G729, but 
I'd be surprised if it didn't support it.


From: asterisk-users-boun...@lists.digium.com 
[mailto:asterisk-users-boun...@lists.digium.com] On Behalf Of Peder
Sent: 10 February 2010 15:51
To: 'Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion'
Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] IP Phone recommendation

Don't use Grandstream if you want quality and stability.  Also check out the 
Cisco SPA504G.  They are the newer versions of the SPA922, support multiple 
lines and are fairly cheap too.

From: asterisk-users-boun...@lists.digium.com 
[mailto:asterisk-users-boun...@lists.digium.com] On Behalf Of Sebastian Milioto
Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2010 9:39 AM
To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion
Subject: [asterisk-users] IP Phone recommendation

Hi all,

I have to install 25 IP Phone in some building. I want just basic IP Phones 
like:


Cisco-Linksys SPA922  u$s 146
Grandstream GXP-2000   u$s 105
Snom 300   u$s 119

The most valuables parameters for me are (in importance order from high to low):

- Stability (device don't hang in any way)
- Voice quality using G729
- Provisioning

So what device do you suggest according I said above?
Is there another device which deserves attention?

Thanks very much in advance,

Sebastian



Sebastian Milioto
ITC
Cid Campeadro 440
Rio Tercero, Cordoba, Argentina
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Re: [asterisk-users] IP Phone recommendation

[Peder]

Don't use Grandstream if you want quality and stability.  Also check out the
Cisco SPA504G.  They are the newer versions of the SPA922, support multiple
lines and are fairly cheap too.

 

From: asterisk-users-boun...@lists.digium.com
[mailto:asterisk-users-boun...@lists.digium.com] On Behalf Of Sebastian
Milioto
Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2010 9:39 AM
To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion
Subject: [asterisk-users] IP Phone recommendation

 

Hi all,

I have to install 25 IP Phone in some building. I want just basic IP Phones
like:


Cisco-Linksys SPA922  u$s 146 
Grandstream GXP-2000   u$s 105
Snom 300   u$s 119 

The most valuables parameters for me are (in importance order from high to
low):

- Stability (device don't hang in any way)
- Voice quality using G729
- Provisioning

So what device do you suggest according I said above?
Is there another device which deserves attention?

Thanks very much in advance,

Sebastian



Sebastian Milioto
ITC 
Cid Campeadro 440
Rio Tercero, Cordoba, Argentina
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[asterisk-users] IP Phone recommendation

[Sebastian Milioto]

Hi all,

I have to install 25 IP Phone in some building. I want just basic IP Phones
like:


Cisco-Linksys SPA922  u$s 146
Grandstream GXP-2000   u$s 105
Snom 300   u$s 119

The most valuables parameters for me are (in importance order from high to
low):

- Stability (device don't hang in any way)
- Voice quality using G729
- Provisioning

So what device do you suggest according I said above?
Is there another device which deserves attention?

Thanks very much in advance,

Sebastian



Sebastian Milioto
ITC
Cid Campeadro 440
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Re: [asterisk-users] IP phone recommendation

[Danny Nicholas]

That would be correct, since the TFTP/HTTP setup is a "world-readable" one.

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On Wed, Jun 03, 2009 at 09:18:34AM -0500, Danny Nicholas wrote:
> I will agree with most of what you say about the polycoms, but here is one
> thing to help you out.  The Polycom 501 has an HTTP configuration
interface;
> I set up mine thru http://127.0.0.1:8088/asterisk/static/phones where
> /var/lib/asterisk/static-http/phones contains the polycom TFTP directory
> members.

So anybody can ready anybody else's configuration?

(that applies to just about any (T)FTP setup and static HTTP ones)

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Re: [asterisk-users] IP phone recommendation

[Christian Victor]

Right! Whatever somebody likes more! I just say that the Snoms look 
better at the side of my Mac. Wich is of course by far the superiour 
system. ;-)

Chris

John Novack schrieb:
> Hasn't this religious argument/discussion gone on long enough??
>
>
> zoach...@securax.org wrote:
>   
>> I personally find the snom phones to look quite good compared to the 
>> american and chinese brands, might be a european thing though :)
>>
>> Zoa
>>
>>
>> Geraint Lee wrote:
>>   
>> 
>>> I personally find the snom phones to be generally ugly and 
>>> "un-finger-friendly", in terms of reliability and quality, never had 
>>> any trouble, good phones all in all, i just can't get past the tacky 
>>> look and feel so don't buy them.
>>>
>>> 2009/6/3 Darrick Hartman >> >
>>>
>>> On 06/03/2009 11:47 AM, Jeff LaCoursiere wrote:
>>> >
>>> > On Thu, 4 Jun 2009, Rob Hillis wrote:
>>> >
>>> >> Jeff LaCoursiere wrote:
>>> >>> We are still talking about a $175 phone.  How about the
>>> Polycom IP 320?
>>> >>> $85 at 888voipstore.  Can't go wrong with Polycom for voice
>>> quality.
>>> >>>
>>> >> True, Polycom's are brilliant for voice quality, but unlike the
>>> Snom, a
>>> >> Polycom /will/ reboot on the drop of a hat /and/ take a damned
>>> long time
>>> >> to do it (~45-60 seconds)  In addition, the web interface should be
>>> >> taken away and shot - the only real way to configure them is
>>> through (T)FTP.
>>> >>
>>> >> They are however, extraordinarily configurable through the XML
>>> config
>>> >> and they are very stable.  Once they're configured they work very
>>> >> nicely.  The lack of a decent number of BLF keys (even with a very
>>> >> expensive sidecar you only get two more keys than a standalone
>>> Snom320)
>>> >> puts me off a little.
>>> >>
>>> >> However, for a conference phone, the Polycom's can't be easily
>>> beaten.
>>> >> Their handsfree call quality is in a league of it's own.
>>> >>
>>> >
>>> > Mainly I suggest it because the OP asked for an inexpensive
>>> quality phone.
>>> > I agree on the provisioning - the web interface is useless, and
>>> unless you
>>> > know how to setup the XML files properly you are doomed to a very
>>> > frustrating experience.
>>>
>>> The Polycom 320/330's are nice little phones for the price.
>>>
>>> There are several resources for configuring the phones from the XML
>>> config files.  If the config files are sane, the phones don't take
>>> that
>>> long to reboot.
>>>
>>> This is probably one of the better examples:
>>>
>>> http://www.kfife.com/voip/
>>>
>>> Karl did a good job commenting in the config files where he made
>>> changes.
>>>
>>> Darrick
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Re: [asterisk-users] IP phone recommendation

[Gordon Henderson]

On Thu, 4 Jun 2009, Rob Hillis wrote:


Cary Fitch wrote:


We have a bunch of SNOM 360ÿÿs we are not using.  I agree they are not
intuitive to the user.  They work ok in general. I would part with 15
or so at an attractive price, one or more,

I like the Grandstream 2000 series. Easy to use, easy to set up, good
web page.  Priced nice on the wholesale market.


Just don't /ever/ upgrade the firmware if you get one that is semi
functional.  My experience with the first five GXP2000s I bought means
that I will not ever consider Grandstream products again.  Maybe I got a
bad batch, but they've been such a nightmare, I'll be happy to never see
the things again.


I like Grandstreams, but yes, they have had issues in the past, and as you 
say, don't upgrade the firmware if you have one that does what you need it 
to do. New Grandstreams with the 1.6 series firmware have been very good 
indeed.


The issues I've had have been when upgrading new firmware onto old 
hardware. There have been several hardware revisions of the GXP2000 and 
older phones just don't work that well with newer firmware. I have one 
which I bought over 2 years ago with the latest & greatest on it - it 
works, but there are issues with audio quality occasionally (Once or twice 
during a call it buzzes for a few seconds! This doesn't happen with the 
same firmware on newer hardware platforms)


Still - you get what you pay for, and I've yet to find a phone with the 
same features as the GXP2000 for the same price. Most of my customers like 
them - I offer them the choice of Grandstream and Snom - and at nearly 
twice the price for a Snom 360 vs. a GXP2000, most of them go for the 
Grandstreams...


It's almost impossible to get to know every phone type really well - thats 
one disadvantage of an open standard (like Linux distributions!) but it's 
a small price to pay for compatability - I do have customers with Polycom, 
Linksys and ATL phones - all working for them though.


Grandstream, Siemens and Snom (but not Snom for DECT!!!) are the ones I've 
decided to learn the most about... If only I have more time (& money!) to 
play with others...


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Re: [asterisk-users] IP phone recommendation

[Rob Hillis]

Cary Fitch wrote:
>
> We have a bunch of SNOM 360’s we are not using.  I agree they are not
> intuitive to the user.  They work ok in general. I would part with 15
> or so at an attractive price, one or more,
>
>  
>
> I like the Grandstream 2000 series. Easy to use, easy to set up, good
> web page.  Priced nice on the wholesale market.
>

Just don't /ever/ upgrade the firmware if you get one that is semi
functional.  My experience with the first five GXP2000s I bought means
that I will not ever consider Grandstream products again.  Maybe I got a
bad batch, but they've been such a nightmare, I'll be happy to never see
the things again.

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Re: [asterisk-users] IP phone recommendation

[Tzafrir Cohen]

On Wed, Jun 03, 2009 at 09:18:34AM -0500, Danny Nicholas wrote:
> I will agree with most of what you say about the polycoms, but here is one
> thing to help you out.  The Polycom 501 has an HTTP configuration interface;
> I set up mine thru http://127.0.0.1:8088/asterisk/static/phones where
> /var/lib/asterisk/static-http/phones contains the polycom TFTP directory
> members.

So anybody can ready anybody else's configuration?

(that applies to just about any (T)FTP setup and static HTTP ones)

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Re: [asterisk-users] IP phone recommendation

[randulo]

How did I miss thins gem?

>> >>     >> Polycom /will/ reboot on the drop of a hat /and/ take a damned
>> >>     long time
>> >>     >> to do it (~45-60 seconds)  In addition, the web interface should
>> >> be
>> >>     >> taken away and shot - the only real way to configure them is
>> >>     through (T)FTP.

I didn't say that, I said the person who developed the web interface
should be forced to use it. Which is way worse than being taken out
and shot. Especially when the "exit" button changes position in the
middle of a menu operation. Maybe they need Flash in the phone?

This said, damn fine sounding phones, especially in g722 on a wideband
conference bridge like the one we talk on every Friday :)

/r

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Re: [asterisk-users] IP phone recommendation

[Geraint Lee]

you could say it has, and you're right, it probably has :)

but i personally find these threads help make the day pass a little faster

2009/6/3 John Novack 

> Hasn't this religious argument/discussion gone on long enough??
>
>
> zoach...@securax.org wrote:
> > I personally find the snom phones to look quite good compared to the
> > american and chinese brands, might be a european thing though :)
> >
> > Zoa
> >
> >
> > Geraint Lee wrote:
> >
> >> I personally find the snom phones to be generally ugly and
> >> "un-finger-friendly", in terms of reliability and quality, never had
> >> any trouble, good phones all in all, i just can't get past the tacky
> >> look and feel so don't buy them.
> >>
> >> 2009/6/3 Darrick Hartman  >> >
> >>
> >> On 06/03/2009 11:47 AM, Jeff LaCoursiere wrote:
> >> >
> >> > On Thu, 4 Jun 2009, Rob Hillis wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> Jeff LaCoursiere wrote:
> >> >>> We are still talking about a $175 phone.  How about the
> >> Polycom IP 320?
> >> >>> $85 at 888voipstore.  Can't go wrong with Polycom for voice
> >> quality.
> >> >>>
> >> >> True, Polycom's are brilliant for voice quality, but unlike the
> >> Snom, a
> >> >> Polycom /will/ reboot on the drop of a hat /and/ take a damned
> >> long time
> >> >> to do it (~45-60 seconds)  In addition, the web interface should
> be
> >> >> taken away and shot - the only real way to configure them is
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> >> >>
> >> >> They are however, extraordinarily configurable through the XML
> >> config
> >> >> and they are very stable.  Once they're configured they work very
> >> >> nicely.  The lack of a decent number of BLF keys (even with a
> very
> >> >> expensive sidecar you only get two more keys than a standalone
> >> Snom320)
> >> >> puts me off a little.
> >> >>
> >> >> However, for a conference phone, the Polycom's can't be easily
> >> beaten.
> >> >> Their handsfree call quality is in a league of it's own.
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> > Mainly I suggest it because the OP asked for an inexpensive
> >> quality phone.
> >> > I agree on the provisioning - the web interface is useless, and
> >> unless you
> >> > know how to setup the XML files properly you are doomed to a very
> >> > frustrating experience.
> >>
> >> The Polycom 320/330's are nice little phones for the price.
> >>
> >> There are several resources for configuring the phones from the XML
> >> config files.  If the config files are sane, the phones don't take
> >> that
> >> long to reboot.
> >>
> >> This is probably one of the better examples:
> >>
> >> http://www.kfife.com/voip/
> >>
> >> Karl did a good job commenting in the config files where he made
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Re: [asterisk-users] IP phone recommendation

[John Novack]

Hasn't this religious argument/discussion gone on long enough??


zoach...@securax.org wrote:
> I personally find the snom phones to look quite good compared to the 
> american and chinese brands, might be a european thing though :)
>
> Zoa
>
>
> Geraint Lee wrote:
>   
>> I personally find the snom phones to be generally ugly and 
>> "un-finger-friendly", in terms of reliability and quality, never had 
>> any trouble, good phones all in all, i just can't get past the tacky 
>> look and feel so don't buy them.
>>
>> 2009/6/3 Darrick Hartman > >
>>
>> On 06/03/2009 11:47 AM, Jeff LaCoursiere wrote:
>> >
>> > On Thu, 4 Jun 2009, Rob Hillis wrote:
>> >
>> >> Jeff LaCoursiere wrote:
>> >>> We are still talking about a $175 phone.  How about the
>> Polycom IP 320?
>> >>> $85 at 888voipstore.  Can't go wrong with Polycom for voice
>> quality.
>> >>>
>> >> True, Polycom's are brilliant for voice quality, but unlike the
>> Snom, a
>> >> Polycom /will/ reboot on the drop of a hat /and/ take a damned
>> long time
>> >> to do it (~45-60 seconds)  In addition, the web interface should be
>> >> taken away and shot - the only real way to configure them is
>> through (T)FTP.
>> >>
>> >> They are however, extraordinarily configurable through the XML
>> config
>> >> and they are very stable.  Once they're configured they work very
>> >> nicely.  The lack of a decent number of BLF keys (even with a very
>> >> expensive sidecar you only get two more keys than a standalone
>> Snom320)
>> >> puts me off a little.
>> >>
>> >> However, for a conference phone, the Polycom's can't be easily
>> beaten.
>> >> Their handsfree call quality is in a league of it's own.
>> >>
>> >
>> > Mainly I suggest it because the OP asked for an inexpensive
>> quality phone.
>> > I agree on the provisioning - the web interface is useless, and
>> unless you
>> > know how to setup the XML files properly you are doomed to a very
>> > frustrating experience.
>>
>> The Polycom 320/330's are nice little phones for the price.
>>
>> There are several resources for configuring the phones from the XML
>> config files.  If the config files are sane, the phones don't take
>> that
>> long to reboot.
>>
>> This is probably one of the better examples:
>>
>> http://www.kfife.com/voip/
>>
>> Karl did a good job commenting in the config files where he made
>> changes.
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[zoach...@securax.org]

I personally find the snom phones to look quite good compared to the 
american and chinese brands, might be a european thing though :)

Zoa


Geraint Lee wrote:
> I personally find the snom phones to be generally ugly and 
> "un-finger-friendly", in terms of reliability and quality, never had 
> any trouble, good phones all in all, i just can't get past the tacky 
> look and feel so don't buy them.
>
> 2009/6/3 Darrick Hartman  >
>
> On 06/03/2009 11:47 AM, Jeff LaCoursiere wrote:
> >
> > On Thu, 4 Jun 2009, Rob Hillis wrote:
> >
> >> Jeff LaCoursiere wrote:
> >>> We are still talking about a $175 phone.  How about the
> Polycom IP 320?
> >>> $85 at 888voipstore.  Can't go wrong with Polycom for voice
> quality.
> >>>
> >> True, Polycom's are brilliant for voice quality, but unlike the
> Snom, a
> >> Polycom /will/ reboot on the drop of a hat /and/ take a damned
> long time
> >> to do it (~45-60 seconds)  In addition, the web interface should be
> >> taken away and shot - the only real way to configure them is
> through (T)FTP.
> >>
> >> They are however, extraordinarily configurable through the XML
> config
> >> and they are very stable.  Once they're configured they work very
> >> nicely.  The lack of a decent number of BLF keys (even with a very
> >> expensive sidecar you only get two more keys than a standalone
> Snom320)
> >> puts me off a little.
> >>
> >> However, for a conference phone, the Polycom's can't be easily
> beaten.
> >> Their handsfree call quality is in a league of it's own.
> >>
> >
> > Mainly I suggest it because the OP asked for an inexpensive
> quality phone.
> > I agree on the provisioning - the web interface is useless, and
> unless you
> > know how to setup the XML files properly you are doomed to a very
> > frustrating experience.
>
> The Polycom 320/330's are nice little phones for the price.
>
> There are several resources for configuring the phones from the XML
> config files.  If the config files are sane, the phones don't take
> that
> long to reboot.
>
> This is probably one of the better examples:
>
> http://www.kfife.com/voip/
>
> Karl did a good job commenting in the config files where he made
> changes.
>
> Darrick
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Re: [asterisk-users] IP phone recommendation

[Singer XJ Wang]

I'll put in my $0.02CAD for Polycom. We use the 330s here.

Singer

Geraint Lee wrote:
> I personally find the snom phones to be generally ugly and
> "un-finger-friendly", in terms of reliability and quality, never had
> any trouble, good phones all in all, i just can't get past the tacky
> look and feel so don't buy them.
>
> 2009/6/3 Darrick Hartman  >
>
> On 06/03/2009 11:47 AM, Jeff LaCoursiere wrote:
> >
> > On Thu, 4 Jun 2009, Rob Hillis wrote:
> >
> >> Jeff LaCoursiere wrote:
> >>> We are still talking about a $175 phone.  How about the
> Polycom IP 320?
> >>> $85 at 888voipstore.  Can't go wrong with Polycom for voice
> quality.
> >>>
> >> True, Polycom's are brilliant for voice quality, but unlike the
> Snom, a
> >> Polycom /will/ reboot on the drop of a hat /and/ take a damned
> long time
> >> to do it (~45-60 seconds)  In addition, the web interface should be
> >> taken away and shot - the only real way to configure them is
> through (T)FTP.
> >>
> >> They are however, extraordinarily configurable through the XML
> config
> >> and they are very stable.  Once they're configured they work very
> >> nicely.  The lack of a decent number of BLF keys (even with a very
> >> expensive sidecar you only get two more keys than a standalone
> Snom320)
> >> puts me off a little.
> >>
> >> However, for a conference phone, the Polycom's can't be easily
> beaten.
> >> Their handsfree call quality is in a league of it's own.
> >>
> >
> > Mainly I suggest it because the OP asked for an inexpensive
> quality phone.
> > I agree on the provisioning - the web interface is useless, and
> unless you
> > know how to setup the XML files properly you are doomed to a very
> > frustrating experience.
>
> The Polycom 320/330's are nice little phones for the price.
>
> There are several resources for configuring the phones from the XML
> config files.  If the config files are sane, the phones don't take
> that
> long to reboot.
>
> This is probably one of the better examples:
>
> http://www.kfife.com/voip/
>
> Karl did a good job commenting in the config files where he made
> changes.
>
> Darrick
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Re: [asterisk-users] IP phone recommendation

[Cary Fitch]

We have a bunch of SNOM 360's we are not using.  I agree they are not
intuitive to the user.  They work ok in general. I would part with 15 or so
at an attractive price, one or more, 

 

I like the Grandstream 2000 series. Easy to use, easy to set up, good web
page.  Priced nice on the wholesale market.

 

Cary Fitch

 

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[mailto:asterisk-users-boun...@lists.digium.com] On Behalf Of Geraint Lee
Sent: Wednesday, June 03, 2009 12:33 PM
To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion
Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] IP phone recommendation

 

I personally find the snom phones to be generally ugly and
"un-finger-friendly", in terms of reliability and quality, never had any
trouble, good phones all in all, i just can't get past the tacky look and
feel so don't buy them.

2009/6/3 Darrick Hartman 

On 06/03/2009 11:47 AM, Jeff LaCoursiere wrote:
>
> On Thu, 4 Jun 2009, Rob Hillis wrote:
>
>> Jeff LaCoursiere wrote:
>>> We are still talking about a $175 phone.  How about the Polycom IP 320?
>>> $85 at 888voipstore.  Can't go wrong with Polycom for voice quality.
>>>
>> True, Polycom's are brilliant for voice quality, but unlike the Snom, a
>> Polycom /will/ reboot on the drop of a hat /and/ take a damned long time
>> to do it (~45-60 seconds)  In addition, the web interface should be
>> taken away and shot - the only real way to configure them is through
(T)FTP.
>>
>> They are however, extraordinarily configurable through the XML config
>> and they are very stable.  Once they're configured they work very
>> nicely.  The lack of a decent number of BLF keys (even with a very
>> expensive sidecar you only get two more keys than a standalone Snom320)
>> puts me off a little.
>>
>> However, for a conference phone, the Polycom's can't be easily beaten.
>> Their handsfree call quality is in a league of it's own.
>>
>
> Mainly I suggest it because the OP asked for an inexpensive quality phone.
> I agree on the provisioning - the web interface is useless, and unless you
> know how to setup the XML files properly you are doomed to a very
> frustrating experience.

The Polycom 320/330's are nice little phones for the price.

There are several resources for configuring the phones from the XML
config files.  If the config files are sane, the phones don't take that
long to reboot.

This is probably one of the better examples:

http://www.kfife.com/voip/

Karl did a good job commenting in the config files where he made changes.

Darrick

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Re: [asterisk-users] IP phone recommendation

[Geraint Lee]

I personally find the snom phones to be generally ugly and
"un-finger-friendly", in terms of reliability and quality, never had any
trouble, good phones all in all, i just can't get past the tacky look and
feel so don't buy them.

2009/6/3 Darrick Hartman 

> On 06/03/2009 11:47 AM, Jeff LaCoursiere wrote:
> >
> > On Thu, 4 Jun 2009, Rob Hillis wrote:
> >
> >> Jeff LaCoursiere wrote:
> >>> We are still talking about a $175 phone.  How about the Polycom IP 320?
> >>> $85 at 888voipstore.  Can't go wrong with Polycom for voice quality.
> >>>
> >> True, Polycom's are brilliant for voice quality, but unlike the Snom, a
> >> Polycom /will/ reboot on the drop of a hat /and/ take a damned long time
> >> to do it (~45-60 seconds)  In addition, the web interface should be
> >> taken away and shot - the only real way to configure them is through
> (T)FTP.
> >>
> >> They are however, extraordinarily configurable through the XML config
> >> and they are very stable.  Once they're configured they work very
> >> nicely.  The lack of a decent number of BLF keys (even with a very
> >> expensive sidecar you only get two more keys than a standalone Snom320)
> >> puts me off a little.
> >>
> >> However, for a conference phone, the Polycom's can't be easily beaten.
> >> Their handsfree call quality is in a league of it's own.
> >>
> >
> > Mainly I suggest it because the OP asked for an inexpensive quality
> phone.
> > I agree on the provisioning - the web interface is useless, and unless
> you
> > know how to setup the XML files properly you are doomed to a very
> > frustrating experience.
>
> The Polycom 320/330's are nice little phones for the price.
>
> There are several resources for configuring the phones from the XML
> config files.  If the config files are sane, the phones don't take that
> long to reboot.
>
> This is probably one of the better examples:
>
> http://www.kfife.com/voip/
>
> Karl did a good job commenting in the config files where he made changes.
>
> Darrick
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[Darrick Hartman]

On 06/03/2009 11:47 AM, Jeff LaCoursiere wrote:
>
> On Thu, 4 Jun 2009, Rob Hillis wrote:
>
>> Jeff LaCoursiere wrote:
>>> We are still talking about a $175 phone.  How about the Polycom IP 320?
>>> $85 at 888voipstore.  Can't go wrong with Polycom for voice quality.
>>>
>> True, Polycom's are brilliant for voice quality, but unlike the Snom, a
>> Polycom /will/ reboot on the drop of a hat /and/ take a damned long time
>> to do it (~45-60 seconds)  In addition, the web interface should be
>> taken away and shot - the only real way to configure them is through (T)FTP.
>>
>> They are however, extraordinarily configurable through the XML config
>> and they are very stable.  Once they're configured they work very
>> nicely.  The lack of a decent number of BLF keys (even with a very
>> expensive sidecar you only get two more keys than a standalone Snom320)
>> puts me off a little.
>>
>> However, for a conference phone, the Polycom's can't be easily beaten.
>> Their handsfree call quality is in a league of it's own.
>>
>
> Mainly I suggest it because the OP asked for an inexpensive quality phone.
> I agree on the provisioning - the web interface is useless, and unless you
> know how to setup the XML files properly you are doomed to a very
> frustrating experience.

The Polycom 320/330's are nice little phones for the price.

There are several resources for configuring the phones from the XML 
config files.  If the config files are sane, the phones don't take that 
long to reboot.

This is probably one of the better examples:

http://www.kfife.com/voip/

Karl did a good job commenting in the config files where he made changes.

Darrick

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Re: [asterisk-users] IP phone recommendation

[Jeff LaCoursiere]

On Thu, 4 Jun 2009, Rob Hillis wrote:

> Jeff LaCoursiere wrote:
>> We are still talking about a $175 phone.  How about the Polycom IP 320?
>> $85 at 888voipstore.  Can't go wrong with Polycom for voice quality.
>>
>
> True, Polycom's are brilliant for voice quality, but unlike the Snom, a
> Polycom /will/ reboot on the drop of a hat /and/ take a damned long time
> to do it (~45-60 seconds)  In addition, the web interface should be
> taken away and shot - the only real way to configure them is through (T)FTP.
>
> They are however, extraordinarily configurable through the XML config
> and they are very stable.  Once they're configured they work very
> nicely.  The lack of a decent number of BLF keys (even with a very
> expensive sidecar you only get two more keys than a standalone Snom320)
> puts me off a little.
>
> However, for a conference phone, the Polycom's can't be easily beaten.
> Their handsfree call quality is in a league of it's own.
>

Mainly I suggest it because the OP asked for an inexpensive quality phone. 
I agree on the provisioning - the web interface is useless, and unless you 
know how to setup the XML files properly you are doomed to a very 
frustrating experience.

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Re: [asterisk-users] IP phone recommendation

[Danny Nicholas]

I will agree with most of what you say about the polycoms, but here is one
thing to help you out.  The Polycom 501 has an HTTP configuration interface;
I set up mine thru http://127.0.0.1:8088/asterisk/static/phones where
/var/lib/asterisk/static-http/phones contains the polycom TFTP directory
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Jeff LaCoursiere wrote:
> We are still talking about a $175 phone.  How about the Polycom IP 320? 
> $85 at 888voipstore.  Can't go wrong with Polycom for voice quality.
>   

True, Polycom's are brilliant for voice quality, but unlike the Snom, a
Polycom /will/ reboot on the drop of a hat /and/ take a damned long time
to do it (~45-60 seconds)  In addition, the web interface should be
taken away and shot - the only real way to configure them is through (T)FTP.

They are however, extraordinarily configurable through the XML config
and they are very stable.  Once they're configured they work very
nicely.  The lack of a decent number of BLF keys (even with a very
expensive sidecar you only get two more keys than a standalone Snom320)
puts me off a little.

However, for a conference phone, the Polycom's can't be easily beaten. 
Their handsfree call quality is in a league of it's own.


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Re: [asterisk-users] IP phone recommendation

[Rob Hillis]

Jeff LaCoursiere wrote:
> We are still talking about a $175 phone.  How about the Polycom IP 320? 
> $85 at 888voipstore.  Can't go wrong with Polycom for voice quality.
>   

True, Polycom's are brilliant for voice quality, but unlike the Snom, a
Polycom /will/ reboot on the drop of a hat /and/ take a damned long time
to do it (~45-60 seconds)  In addition, the web interface should be
taken away and shot - the only real way to configure them is through (T)FTP.

They are however, extraordinarily configurable through the XML config
and they are very stable.  Once they're configured they work very
nicely.  The lack of a decent number of BLF keys (even with a very
expensive sidecar you only get two more keys than a standalone Snom320)
puts me off a little.

However, for a conference phone, the Polycom's can't be easily beaten. 
Their handsfree call quality is in a league of it's own.


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Re: [asterisk-users] IP phone recommendation

[Jeff LaCoursiere]

On Wed, 3 Jun 2009, Rob Hillis wrote:

> Alex Samad wrote:
>> I have been looking at a snom 300, which seems okay. the display goes a
>> bit haywire occasionally - not sure why yet.
>>
>> Are the 320 worth the extra money ?
>
> IMO yes, though it really depends on what you want from the phone.
>
> The Snom 320s handle transfers considerably better than the 300s and all
> round are a little easier to work with and use.  The 12 programmable
> keys that can be used for lines, BLF indication, speed dials as well as
> other things are a big plus.  They are easy to configure - and unlike
> many other makes of phone do /not/ reboot on the drop of a hat.
>
> The only real problem I have with the Snom 320 is the display - the
> display is a bit too small and /isn't/ backlit. considerably better than
> the 300s.  Having said that, the display on the 320s are still much
> better than those of the 300s.
>

We are still talking about a $175 phone.  How about the Polycom IP 320? 
$85 at 888voipstore.  Can't go wrong with Polycom for voice quality.

j

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Re: [asterisk-users] IP phone recommendation

[Rob Hillis]

Alex Samad wrote:
> I have been looking at a snom 300, which seems okay. the display goes a
> bit haywire occasionally - not sure why yet.
>
> Are the 320 worth the extra money ?

IMO yes, though it really depends on what you want from the phone.

The Snom 320s handle transfers considerably better than the 300s and all
round are a little easier to work with and use.  The 12 programmable
keys that can be used for lines, BLF indication, speed dials as well as
other things are a big plus.  They are easy to configure - and unlike
many other makes of phone do /not/ reboot on the drop of a hat.

The only real problem I have with the Snom 320 is the display - the
display is a bit too small and /isn't/ backlit. considerably better than
the 300s.  Having said that, the display on the 320s are still much
better than those of the 300s.

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Re: [asterisk-users] IP phone recommendation

[Remco Barendse]

On Wed, 3 Jun 2009, Rob Hillis wrote:

> Christian Stredicke wrote:
>> Check out the snom 300 or the snom 820...
>>
>
>
> Good lord... talk about two extremes... :)  The Snom 300 is pretty good,
> but the 320 is much better and costs around a *third* of what the Snom
> 820 does.
>
> Stick with the older model snoms.  So far I've seen nothing about the
> 820 to justify the significant extra expense.

Build quality perhaps? I hope the newer models last longer than 2 
years.


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Re: [asterisk-users] IP phone recommendation

[Alex Samad]

On Wed, Jun 03, 2009 at 08:23:13PM +1000, Rob Hillis wrote:
> Christian Stredicke wrote:
> > Check out the snom 300 or the snom 820...
> >   
> 
> 
> Good lord... talk about two extremes... :)  The Snom 300 is pretty good,
> but the 320 is much better and costs around a *third* of what the Snom
> 820 does.

I have been looking at a snom 300, which seems okay. the display goes a
bit haywire occasionally - not sure why yet.

Are the 320 worth the extra money ?

Alex

> 
> Stick with the older model snoms.  So far I've seen nothing about the
> 820 to justify the significant extra expense.
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Re: [asterisk-users] IP phone recommendation

[Rob Hillis]

Christian Stredicke wrote:
> Check out the snom 300 or the snom 820...
>   


Good lord... talk about two extremes... :)  The Snom 300 is pretty good,
but the 320 is much better and costs around a *third* of what the Snom
820 does.

Stick with the older model snoms.  So far I've seen nothing about the
820 to justify the significant extra expense.

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Re: [asterisk-users] IP phone recommendation

[Alan Lord (News)]

On 03/06/09 08:37, Rilawich Ango wrote:
> Hi all,
>Any good recommendation of IP phone in term of sound quality and
> price (reasonable) using with asterisk?
> ango

Not sure where you are in the world, or what you really need but I like 
the Siemens Gigaset IP DECT phones.

The S685IP is really nice: 
http://www.theopensourcerer.com/2008/04/27/siemens-gigaset-685ip-phones/

HTH

Al



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Re: [asterisk-users] IP phone recommendation

[Geraint Lee]

i quite like the aastra 55i phones, i find the sound quality is better than
the polycom sound stations on loud speaker, and handset quality is perfect.

2009/6/3 Christian Stredicke 

> Check out the snom 300 or the snom 820...
>
> CS
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> Hi all,
>  Any good recommendation of IP phone in term of sound quality and
> price (reasonable) using with asterisk?
> ango
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Re: [asterisk-users] IP phone recommendation

[Christian Stredicke]

Check out the snom 300 or the snom 820...

CS

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Hi all,
  Any good recommendation of IP phone in term of sound quality and
price (reasonable) using with asterisk?
ango

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[asterisk-users] IP phone recommendation

[Rilawich Ango]

Hi all,
  Any good recommendation of IP phone in term of sound quality and
price (reasonable) using with asterisk?
ango

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Re: [asterisk-users] IP Phone support SIP and IAX

[randulo]

On Jan 22, 2008 3:40 PM, Jared Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I received a couple of ALL7960 phones from ALLNET Network in Germany
> this past week, and the firmware handles both SIP and IAX.  I haven't
> done a lot of stress testing on them, but so far I'm very happy with the
> phones and their ability to easily make both SIP and IAX calls.

Jared et al,

I have had one of these phones for about a week, with only a little
time to "play" with it. I wrote a very incomplete review that I hope
to finish RSN but here's a few observations:
http://voipusersconference.org/review and I do hope to add more meat
to it. Michael Graves has posted a bunch of photos on that site as
well.

My very first evaluation is that this would be a perfect first phone
for an Asterisk newbie, replacing for example the Grandstream BT100
which is inferior in many ways but also cheaper than the Allnet. The
Allnet can be set to do SIP or IAX2 in the web interface, but the
unique feature AFAIK is that it can be set to do both so you can dial
a (configurable) *0 for SIP and *1 for IAX. This is great for testing.
The phone can register with up to four servers and it can speed dial
any number. That means it can speed dial a SIP URI and I haven't
figured out if this is doable on either the Polycom ip500 or the
Sipura SPA-941 that I own. The voice quality seems very good to me and
the phone has a much sturdier feel than most of the competition in
this price range.

I'm told the US dealer, somewhere in Florida, hasn't answered the call
put in a few days ago yet. In the meantime, there is a UK dealer

http://www.allnetuk.com/

The dealer I was told to contact by the German wholesaler to buy the
phone in France is called Senso Telecom:

http://www.senso-telecom.com/content/view/13/28/lang,en/

Here's the wholesaler page with other countries on it: http://212.18.29.54

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Re: [asterisk-users] IP Phone support SIP and IAX

[bilal ghayyad]

Dear Jared;

Thanks a lot, what is the website link (from where I
can buy this device)? Also, do u have any idea about
the prices?

Regards
Bilal

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> Anyone can advise for a good IP Phone that has the
> ability to support SIP firmware and IAX firmware?
> Ofcourse, SIP there is a lot, but we need also the
> ability to use IAX (as it is good for NAT).

I received a couple of ALL7960 phones from ALLNET
Network in Germany
this past week, and the firmware handles both SIP and
IAX.  I haven't
done a lot of stress testing on them, but so far I'm
very happy with
 the
phones and their ability to easily make both SIP and
IAX calls.

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Re: [asterisk-users] IP Phone support SIP and IAX

[Jared Smith]

On Sun, 2008-01-20 at 00:57 -0800, bilal ghayyad wrote:
> Anyone can advise for a good IP Phone that has the
> ability to support SIP firmware and IAX firmware?
> Ofcourse, SIP there is a lot, but we need also the
> ability to use IAX (as it is good for NAT).

I received a couple of ALL7960 phones from ALLNET Network in Germany
this past week, and the firmware handles both SIP and IAX.  I haven't
done a lot of stress testing on them, but so far I'm very happy with the
phones and their ability to easily make both SIP and IAX calls.

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Re: [asterisk-users] IP Phone support SIP and IAX

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bilal ghayyad a écrit :
> Hi All;
>
> Anyone can advise for a good IP Phone that has the
> ability to support SIP firmware and IAX firmware?
> Ofcourse, SIP there is a lot, but we need also the
> ability to use IAX (as it is good for NAT).
>   
We are using IP0027. Great audio, POE, 5 SIP accounts, 1 IAX. Contact 
off line if you want more details.
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Re: [asterisk-users] IP Phone support SIP and IAX

[david]

>
> Hi All;
>
> Anyone can advise for a good IP Phone that has the
> ability to support SIP firmware and IAX firmware?
> Ofcourse, SIP there is a lot, but we need also the
> ability to use IAX (as it is good for NAT).
>
> Any advise.
> Regards
> Bilal
>
>
>   
I am using an atcom at-530
http://www.atcom.cn/En_products_At530.html
I is real light and when after you read new messages the display still 
reads "New Messages" so I have to reboot it to clear the display. Sounds 
fine though.

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[asterisk-users] IP Phone support SIP and IAX

[bilal ghayyad]

Hi All;

Anyone can advise for a good IP Phone that has the
ability to support SIP firmware and IAX firmware?
Ofcourse, SIP there is a lot, but we need also the
ability to use IAX (as it is good for NAT).

Any advise.
Regards
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Re: [asterisk-users] ip phone suggestion for Asia?

[d tbsky]

hi:
   i have discussed the transfer function with grandstream engineers.
their operation procedure is complicated(eg: no attended+blind transfer).
   i tell them the simple way, but got no response since then.

Regards,
tbskyd

2008/1/7, Andrew Joakimsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> Another thing is I've found the grandstream phone way of doing things
> like transfer, etc much easier to understand for laypeople than the
> more expensive phones. There is no clutter of keys or menus.
>
> On Dec 23, 2007 11:50 AM, d tbsky <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > hi:
> >thanks a lot for so many great information. i tried to read the
> > specs and manuals for all the phones mentioned.
> >we use alcatel pbx in most offices. i  surveyed some users to
> > understand what functions they use most. and i found few people know
> > how to use 3way-conf or forward.i think if the
> > function needs two or more keys to operate, then people tend to ignore
> > it unless he use that function for daily business.
> >i conclude the functions we need are all basic functions. but due
> > to the difference of ip pbx/phones and classic pbx/phones, some of
> > these functions seem not so "basic" in the ip world:
> >
> > 1. dial out name display. when you dial a number, the phone lcd will
> > show the corresponding name, so you can realize if it is the correct
> > number immediately. this needs a corporate directory support, or put
> > the whole corporate phonebooks to every ip phone. most ip phone has
> > less than 500 local phonebook entries. this is not enough for us.
> > grandstream: has xml phonebook support and can combine with local
> > phonebooks.
> > linksys: has coporate directory but seems only work with linksys
> > pbx, not asterisk.
> > aastra: has xml phonebook
> > snom: has ldap and xml phonebook. xml seems for browsing,don't
> > know if work here.
> > other china brand phone: none.
> >
> > 2. transfer. transfer is simple and straightforward in classic pbx.
> > you just press "transfer" then dial number  and you are on the way of
> > attended transfer. you press "transfer" again to cancel transfer. you
> > hangup to complete the attended transfer. if you hangup before the
> > completion of attended transfer, the  transfer becomes blind transfer
> > automatically. eventually user didn't notice the  "blind" or
> > "attended" concept in classic pbx.
> >snom: has "transfer on hook". don't know if it can do all what i want.
> >others: some china phones almost can do it, but need to press
> > "hold" to cancel transfer.
> >
> > 3. call back on busy. in alcatel, if  you dial someone and he is on
> > the phone, you will hear something like "busy, please dial 5 if you
> > want to request callback". you can dial 5 and you will hear "success,
> > please hangup". asterisk has several ways and patches to do this. but
> > i saw some phone can do this locally. i don't know which is better.
> > linksys: has this function in spec. don't know how to use.
> > snom: has "call completion".
> > others: i didn't find this or i miss it.
> >
> > 4. pickup. i think this is easy to emulate "*8" and let asterisk do
> > it. any better method? every phones can do this emulation.
> >
> > 5. three-way conference, forward. if there are simple (one key) method
> > to implement these. in alcatel, if the phone if forwarded, when you
> > pick up the handset you will hear like "forwarded, please press *1 to
> > cancel". it's easy so everyone can cancel the forward. but it need two
> > keys to start a forward, so few users know how to forward a number.
> >
> > please correct me if there are mistakes or missing.
> > thanks again for your great help!!
> >
> > Regards,
> > tbskyd
> >
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Re: [asterisk-users] ip phone suggestion for Asia?

[Andrew Joakimsen]

Another thing is I've found the grandstream phone way of doing things
like transfer, etc much easier to understand for laypeople than the
more expensive phones. There is no clutter of keys or menus.

On Dec 23, 2007 11:50 AM, d tbsky <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> hi:
>thanks a lot for so many great information. i tried to read the
> specs and manuals for all the phones mentioned.
>we use alcatel pbx in most offices. i  surveyed some users to
> understand what functions they use most. and i found few people know
> how to use 3way-conf or forward.i think if the
> function needs two or more keys to operate, then people tend to ignore
> it unless he use that function for daily business.
>i conclude the functions we need are all basic functions. but due
> to the difference of ip pbx/phones and classic pbx/phones, some of
> these functions seem not so "basic" in the ip world:
>
> 1. dial out name display. when you dial a number, the phone lcd will
> show the corresponding name, so you can realize if it is the correct
> number immediately. this needs a corporate directory support, or put
> the whole corporate phonebooks to every ip phone. most ip phone has
> less than 500 local phonebook entries. this is not enough for us.
> grandstream: has xml phonebook support and can combine with local
> phonebooks.
> linksys: has coporate directory but seems only work with linksys
> pbx, not asterisk.
> aastra: has xml phonebook
> snom: has ldap and xml phonebook. xml seems for browsing,don't
> know if work here.
> other china brand phone: none.
>
> 2. transfer. transfer is simple and straightforward in classic pbx.
> you just press "transfer" then dial number  and you are on the way of
> attended transfer. you press "transfer" again to cancel transfer. you
> hangup to complete the attended transfer. if you hangup before the
> completion of attended transfer, the  transfer becomes blind transfer
> automatically. eventually user didn't notice the  "blind" or
> "attended" concept in classic pbx.
>snom: has "transfer on hook". don't know if it can do all what i want.
>others: some china phones almost can do it, but need to press
> "hold" to cancel transfer.
>
> 3. call back on busy. in alcatel, if  you dial someone and he is on
> the phone, you will hear something like "busy, please dial 5 if you
> want to request callback". you can dial 5 and you will hear "success,
> please hangup". asterisk has several ways and patches to do this. but
> i saw some phone can do this locally. i don't know which is better.
> linksys: has this function in spec. don't know how to use.
> snom: has "call completion".
> others: i didn't find this or i miss it.
>
> 4. pickup. i think this is easy to emulate "*8" and let asterisk do
> it. any better method? every phones can do this emulation.
>
> 5. three-way conference, forward. if there are simple (one key) method
> to implement these. in alcatel, if the phone if forwarded, when you
> pick up the handset you will hear like "forwarded, please press *1 to
> cancel". it's easy so everyone can cancel the forward. but it need two
> keys to start a forward, so few users know how to forward a number.
>
> please correct me if there are mistakes or missing.
> thanks again for your great help!!
>
> Regards,
> tbskyd
>
>
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Re: [asterisk-users] ip phone suggestion for Asia?

[d tbsky]

Hi lan:
  thanks for your reply. i already discussed with atcom engineer. they
are sorry that they
can not satisfy any of my request. they will release an advanced model
this year and hope
it can catch up others.
  fanvil is really poor. we have dozens of fanvil FV6050 and now we
have to  give up all of them and waiting for snom phones.

Regards,
tbskyd

2008/1/4, Ian FREISLICH <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> "d tbsky" wrote:
> > hi:
> >thanks for the information. you are the second one who mentioned
> > atcom. so i think this phone has basic quality.
> >i don't have atcom in hand. but i have other china brand(fanvil)
> > phone which seems the same as atcom: infeneon based, sip, iax, good
> > sound quality.
> > but it has poor firmware support and limited function. i check the atcom
> >  manual, but didn't find the functions i need (corporate phonebook,
> > transfer, callback..etc).
>
> I think that Fanvil is ATCom repackaged (I have an atcom and fanvil
> phone and the configuration structure and menus are the same although
> the atcom interface looks better).  Fanvil's firmware support is
> poor and I accidentally downgraded the firmware thinking I was
> upgrading it according to their web page.
>
> Phonebook will be an issue.  Attended an unattended transfers aren't
> a problem with these phones and I thought call-back would be
> implimented in the PBX, not the phone.
>
> Maybe have a look at Mitel, you can tickle a URL on the phone to
> make it dial, so clicking on the name on the company directory in
> the intranet will call them using your phone.
>
> Ian
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Re: [asterisk-users] ip phone suggestion for Asia?

[Ian FREISLICH]

"d tbsky" wrote:
> hi:
>thanks for the information. you are the second one who mentioned
> atcom. so i think this phone has basic quality.
>i don't have atcom in hand. but i have other china brand(fanvil)
> phone which seems the same as atcom: infeneon based, sip, iax, good
> sound quality.
> but it has poor firmware support and limited function. i check the atcom
>  manual, but didn't find the functions i need (corporate phonebook,
> transfer, callback..etc).

I think that Fanvil is ATCom repackaged (I have an atcom and fanvil
phone and the configuration structure and menus are the same although
the atcom interface looks better).  Fanvil's firmware support is
poor and I accidentally downgraded the firmware thinking I was
upgrading it according to their web page.

Phonebook will be an issue.  Attended an unattended transfers aren't
a problem with these phones and I thought call-back would be
implimented in the PBX, not the phone.

Maybe have a look at Mitel, you can tickle a URL on the phone to
make it dial, so clicking on the name on the company directory in
the intranet will call them using your phone.

Ian

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Re: [asterisk-users] ip phone suggestion for Asia?

[d tbsky]

hi:
   thanks for the information. you are the second one who mentioned
atcom. so i think this phone has basic quality.
   i don't have atcom in hand. but i have other china brand(fanvil)
phone which seems the same as atcom: infeneon based, sip, iax, good
sound quality.
but it has poor firmware support and limited function. i check the atcom
 manual, but didn't find the functions i need (corporate phonebook,
transfer, callback..etc).

Regards,
tbskyd


2007/12/24, Vidura Senadeera <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> Hi,
>
> Try atcom. www.atcom.com.cn
>
> We have tested atcom and its quality also good. they are using infeneon
> chipset. its support asterisk, sip, iax as well.decent look. cost effetive.
> still they have basic ip phone modles. starting from next year they will
> release new modles.
>
> Regards,
> vidura.
>
>
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>
> >
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> > Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2007 12:04:57 +0100
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> > Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] ip phone suggestion for Asia?
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> > Check out yntx
> > www.yntx.com
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> > try to buy one to trye it out before buying fore hole company..
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Re: [asterisk-users] ip phone suggestion for Asia?

[Vidura Senadeera]

Hi,

Try atcom. www.atcom.com.cn

We have tested atcom and its quality also good. they are using infeneon
chipset. its support asterisk, sip, iax as well.decent look. cost effetive.
still they have basic ip phone modles. starting from next year they will
release new modles.

Regards,
vidura.




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> Check out yntx
> www.yntx.com
> fear prices and recides in Asia and iss it sip on asteriks they will do !
> try to buy one to trye it out before buying fore hole company..
>
> /MVH Fille
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Re: [asterisk-users] ip phone suggestion for Asia?

[d tbsky]

hi:
   thanks a lot for so many great information. i tried to read the
specs and manuals for all the phones mentioned.
   we use alcatel pbx in most offices. i  surveyed some users to
understand what functions they use most. and i found few people know
how to use 3way-conf or forward.i think if the
function needs two or more keys to operate, then people tend to ignore
it unless he use that function for daily business.
   i conclude the functions we need are all basic functions. but due
to the difference of ip pbx/phones and classic pbx/phones, some of
these functions seem not so "basic" in the ip world:

1. dial out name display. when you dial a number, the phone lcd will
show the corresponding name, so you can realize if it is the correct
number immediately. this needs a corporate directory support, or put
the whole corporate phonebooks to every ip phone. most ip phone has
less than 500 local phonebook entries. this is not enough for us.
grandstream: has xml phonebook support and can combine with local
phonebooks.
linksys: has coporate directory but seems only work with linksys
pbx, not asterisk.
aastra: has xml phonebook
snom: has ldap and xml phonebook. xml seems for browsing,don't
know if work here.
other china brand phone: none.

2. transfer. transfer is simple and straightforward in classic pbx.
you just press "transfer" then dial number  and you are on the way of
attended transfer. you press "transfer" again to cancel transfer. you
hangup to complete the attended transfer. if you hangup before the
completion of attended transfer, the  transfer becomes blind transfer
automatically. eventually user didn't notice the  "blind" or
"attended" concept in classic pbx.
   snom: has "transfer on hook". don't know if it can do all what i want.
   others: some china phones almost can do it, but need to press
"hold" to cancel transfer.

3. call back on busy. in alcatel, if  you dial someone and he is on
the phone, you will hear something like "busy, please dial 5 if you
want to request callback". you can dial 5 and you will hear "success,
please hangup". asterisk has several ways and patches to do this. but
i saw some phone can do this locally. i don't know which is better.
linksys: has this function in spec. don't know how to use.
snom: has "call completion".
others: i didn't find this or i miss it.

4. pickup. i think this is easy to emulate "*8" and let asterisk do
it. any better method? every phones can do this emulation.

5. three-way conference, forward. if there are simple (one key) method
to implement these. in alcatel, if the phone if forwarded, when you
pick up the handset you will hear like "forwarded, please press *1 to
cancel". it's easy so everyone can cancel the forward. but it need two
keys to start a forward, so few users know how to forward a number.

please correct me if there are mistakes or missing.
thanks again for your great help!!

Regards,
tbskyd

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Re: [asterisk-users] ip phone suggestion for Asia?

[Gordon Henderson]

On Sat, 22 Dec 2007, Andrew Joakimsen wrote:

> For the price Grandstream GXP-2000 is very feature packed and has a
> decent size and resolution display. The menus aren't the nicest but
> the phone works and it does not sound bad. For $70 you get what you
> pay for and the firmware is pretty stable and always being updated.

I've been a bit of a Grandstream "enthusiast" for some time now, and 
generally get on very well with them, but I have to say that recently I've 
become somewhat irritated by them. I know they had some hardware issues 
way back, but I've never encountered any of them.

For the money, it *is* a feature packed phone. It's a bit plasticy and the 
sound quality isn't as good as say a Snom, but I've a lot of customers for 
whom the price is right.

For a long time I've used software version 1.1.1.14, but recently they've 
had newer versions which I've been unable to downgrade to that version. 
Their latest version, 1.1.5.15 has fixed a few things, removed the router 
function (which I had no use for anyway), but in return I now get the 
occasional buzzing sound every few minutes from one older phone I've 
upgraded. Not sure about the new ones, not dared to upgrade them yet! 
Additionally, some phones I have out in the field which were shipped with 
some intermediate version of the s/ware have odd audio problems.

I've emailled them, and get replies eventually, nothing forthcoming about 
a fix yet, so who knows...

I do like the phones though, the GXP2000 is very nice, if a little "fisher 
price", and for the money I can't better it, but if their software doesn't 
stabilise, then who knows what I'll be tempted to move to in the future... 
(probably Snom if I can persuade my customers to pay a little more - the 
300's screen is jsut too small, and the price difference between that and 
the 320 is just a bit too much for my market...)

Gordon

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Re: [asterisk-users] ip phone suggestion for Asia?

[Andrew Joakimsen]

http://spc.pifiu.com for the stuff Linksys are Nazis about.

On Dec 21, 2007 1:56 PM, Igor A. Goncharovsky <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi!
> d tbsky wrote:
> > ok. i will add linksys to our testing list. but cisco tend to lock things.
> > can we get firmware for linksys easily ? or we must pay like cisco
> > routers and switches?
> >
> You can download latest firmware from linksys.com, also here is firmware
> release notes with full changes list. There is some support issues:
> support of VoIP devices only for itsp, but community can give answer on
> very-very advanced questions.
>
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Re: [asterisk-users] ip phone suggestion for Asia?

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For the price Grandstream GXP-2000 is very feature packed and has a
decent size and resolution display. The menus aren't the nicest but
the phone works and it does not sound bad. For $70 you get what you
pay for and the firmware is pretty stable and always being updated.

On Dec 19, 2007 11:33 PM, d tbsky <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi:
>i am surveying ip phones for our company. we will use them with asterisk.
>we have office in taiwan, hong kong,singapore and china.
>cisco and polycom are too expensive for us.
>we try several china brand ip phones. they are all cheap and
> some of them have good quality. but most of them won't offer future firmware
> support, which we think it's important for ip phones.
>searching in the mail list, we found aastra is good, but they don't sale to
> asia. grandstream looks good also.there are many grandstream users in the 
> list,
> can someone share any good or bad experience about grandstream today?
>if there are other good choice, please tell us!!
>thanks a lot for your help!!
>
> Regards,
> tbskyd
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Re: [asterisk-users] ip phone suggestion for Asia?

[Igor A. Goncharovsky]

Hi!
d tbsky wrote:
> ok. i will add linksys to our testing list. but cisco tend to lock things.
> can we get firmware for linksys easily ? or we must pay like cisco
> routers and switches?
>   
You can download latest firmware from linksys.com, also here is firmware
release notes with full changes list. There is some support issues:
support of VoIP devices only for itsp, but community can give answer on
very-very advanced questions.

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[new response]

Hi
   
  How about trying the Snom phones? They are good and feature rich with regular 
firmware upgrades.
   
  Thanks
  Neel

d tbsky <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
  hi Fredrik :

thanks for your information.
after checking yntx manuals, i found i have one phone in my hand, which has
the same firmware with yntx phones. although it is a different brand
and looks different.
the phone's basic function is ok, but we need some advanced functions
like xml phonebook. i hope these china phones would catch up quickly
so we all can have
better, cheaper phones.

Regards,
tbskyd

2007/12/21, Fredrik Söderlund :
> Check out yntx
> www.yntx.com
> fear prices and recides in Asia and iss it sip on asteriks they will do !
> try to buy one to trye it out before buying fore hole company..
>
> /MVH Fille
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Re: [asterisk-users] ip phone suggestion for Asia?

[d tbsky]

hi mkezys:

  ok. i will add linksys to our testing list. but cisco tend to lock things.
can we get firmware for linksys easily ? or we must pay like cisco
routers and switches?


2007/12/21, Mindaugas Kezys <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> Do not forget to evaluate Linksys SPA phones. Best I tried and not expensive.
>
> We use them (SPA942) in our company. Everybody's happy.
>
>
> Regards,
> Mindaugas Kezys
> http://www.kolmisoft.com
> MOR - Advanced Billing for Asterisk PBX
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of d tbsky
> Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2007 6:34 AM
> To: asterisk-users@lists.digium.com
> Subject: [asterisk-users] ip phone suggestion for Asia?
>
> Hi:
>i am surveying ip phones for our company. we will use them with asterisk.
>we have office in taiwan, hong kong,singapore and china.
>cisco and polycom are too expensive for us.
>we try several china brand ip phones. they are all cheap and
> some of them have good quality. but most of them won't offer future firmware
> support, which we think it's important for ip phones.
>searching in the mail list, we found aastra is good, but they don't sale to
> asia. grandstream looks good also.there are many grandstream users in the 
> list,
> can someone share any good or bad experience about grandstream today?
>if there are other good choice, please tell us!!
>thanks a lot for your help!!
>
> Regards,
> tbskyd
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Re: [asterisk-users] ip phone suggestion for Asia?

[d tbsky]

hi Fredrik :

  thanks for your information.
 after checking yntx manuals, i found i have one phone in my hand, which has
the same firmware with yntx phones. although it is a different brand
and looks different.
the phone's basic function is ok, but we need some advanced functions
like xml phonebook. i hope these china phones would catch up quickly
so we all can have
better, cheaper phones.

Regards,
tbskyd

2007/12/21, Fredrik Söderlund <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> Check out yntx
> www.yntx.com
> fear prices and recides in Asia and iss it sip on asteriks they will do !
> try to buy one to trye it out before buying fore hole company..
>
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On Dec 21, 2007 12:37 AM, d tbsky <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> hi gnubie:
>   snom seems has some re-brand ip phones. do they use the same firmware?
> if they are the same, i don't understand why snom do this..
>

If I'm not mistaken, they use the same firmware. I don't know about Aztech
and SNOM business relationship, if there is. But for sure, it is still a
SNOM phone.  =)

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[Fredrik Söderlund]

Check out yntx
www.yntx.com 
fear prices and recides in Asia and iss it sip on asteriks they will do !
try to buy one to trye it out before buying fore hole company..

/MVH Fille

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Re: [asterisk-users] ip phone suggestion for Asia?

[Jared Smith]

On Thu, 2007-12-20 at 17:17 -0500, John Novack wrote:
> Both the 842 and 942 do not have lit displays and are hard to read.

Actually, the 942 *does* have a backlit LCD.

> Is the 963 any better?

I'm assuming that's a typo and they really meant the 962.  The 962 has a
bright color backlit LCD.

> Why anyone EVER built a LCD without backlighting is beyond me.

I tend to agree.

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Re: [asterisk-users] ip phone suggestion for Asia?

[Daniel Cole]

Hi,

We currently use the 942 and 962. These both have backlight displays. The 962 
is obviously the model with the nice color screen.
These phones are very easy to manage. We configure all phone remotely via TFTP, 
and they phones are set to pull their config periodically. Very easy for making 
changes off-site :)


Cheers,


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Daniel Cole wrote:
> We currently also use the Linksys SPA942 and SPA963 IP phones. They are very 
> nice phones, and very easy to manage.
>
Both the 842 and 942 do not have lit displays and are hard to read.
Is the 963 any better?
Why anyone EVER built a LCD without backlighting is beyond me.

John Novack


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> Do not forget to evaluate Linksys SPA phones. Best I tried and not expensive.
>
> We use them (SPA942) in our company. Everybody's happy.
>
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> Hi:
>i am surveying ip phones for our company. we will use them with asterisk.
>we have office in taiwan, hong kong,singapore and china.
>cisco and polycom are too expensive for us.
>we try several china brand ip phones. they are all cheap and some of them 
> have good quality. but most of them won't offer future firmware support, 
> which we think it's important for ip phones.
>searching in the mail list, we found aastra is good, but they don't sale 
> to asia. grandstream looks good also.there are many grandstream users in the 
> list, can someone share any good or bad experience about grandstream today?
>if there are other good choice, please tell us!!
>thanks a lot for your help!!
>
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Daniel Cole wrote:
> We currently also use the Linksys SPA942 and SPA963 IP phones. They are very 
> nice phones, and very easy to manage.
>   
Both the 842 and 942 do not have lit displays and are hard to read.
Is the 963 any better?
Why anyone EVER built a LCD without backlighting is beyond me.

John Novack


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> Hi:
>i am surveying ip phones for our company. we will use them with asterisk.
>we have office in taiwan, hong kong,singapore and china.
>cisco and polycom are too expensive for us.
>we try several china brand ip phones. they are all cheap and some of them 
> have good quality. but most of them won't offer future firmware support, 
> which we think it's important for ip phones.
>searching in the mail list, we found aastra is good, but they don't sale 
> to asia. grandstream looks good also.there are many grandstream users in the 
> list, can someone share any good or bad experience about grandstream today?
>if there are other good choice, please tell us!!
>thanks a lot for your help!!
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[Joe]

I always forget about Linksys/Sipura phones. Yes they are very nice. I know
there can be some contractual issues when you deal with Linksys/Cisco, but
they are well constructed and I haven't heard anything bad.

I do think you'd get better support with Snom/Grandstream, but this is
coming from my experiences with Cisco more then Linksys.



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>
> Hi:
>   i am surveying ip phones for our company. we will use them with
> asterisk.
>   we have office in taiwan, hong kong,singapore and china.
>   cisco and polycom are too expensive for us.
>   we try several china brand ip phones. they are all cheap and some of
> them have good quality. but most of them won't offer future firmware
> support, which we think it's important for ip phones.
>   searching in the mail list, we found aastra is good, but they don't sale
> to asia. grandstream looks good also.there are many grandstream users in
> the list, can someone share any good or bad experience about grandstream
> today?
>   if there are other good choice, please tell us!!
>   thanks a lot for your help!!
>
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[Daniel Cole]

We currently also use the Linksys SPA942 and SPA963 IP phones. They are very 
nice phones, and very easy to manage.

Cheers,

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Do not forget to evaluate Linksys SPA phones. Best I tried and not expensive.

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Subject: [asterisk-users] ip phone suggestion for Asia?

Hi:
   i am surveying ip phones for our company. we will use them with asterisk.
   we have office in taiwan, hong kong,singapore and china.
   cisco and polycom are too expensive for us.
   we try several china brand ip phones. they are all cheap and some of them 
have good quality. but most of them won't offer future firmware support, which 
we think it's important for ip phones.
   searching in the mail list, we found aastra is good, but they don't sale to 
asia. grandstream looks good also.there are many grandstream users in the list, 
can someone share any good or bad experience about grandstream today?
   if there are other good choice, please tell us!!
   thanks a lot for your help!!

Regards,
tbskyd

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[Mindaugas Kezys]

Do not forget to evaluate Linksys SPA phones. Best I tried and not expensive. 

We use them (SPA942) in our company. Everybody's happy.


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of d tbsky
Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2007 6:34 AM
To: asterisk-users@lists.digium.com
Subject: [asterisk-users] ip phone suggestion for Asia?

Hi:
   i am surveying ip phones for our company. we will use them with asterisk.
   we have office in taiwan, hong kong,singapore and china.
   cisco and polycom are too expensive for us.
   we try several china brand ip phones. they are all cheap and
some of them have good quality. but most of them won't offer future firmware
support, which we think it's important for ip phones.
   searching in the mail list, we found aastra is good, but they don't sale to
asia. grandstream looks good also.there are many grandstream users in the list,
can someone share any good or bad experience about grandstream today?
   if there are other good choice, please tell us!!
   thanks a lot for your help!!

Regards,
tbskyd

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Re: [asterisk-users] ip phone suggestion for Asia?

[d tbsky]

hi gnubie:
   snom seems has some re-brand ip phones. do they use the same firmware?
if they are the same, i don't understand why snom do this..

Regards,
tbskyd

2007/12/20, GNUbie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> On Dec 20, 2007 12:33 PM, d tbsky <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > Hi:
> >   i am surveying ip phones for our company. we will use them with
> asterisk.
> >   we have office in taiwan, hong kong,singapore and china.
> >   cisco and polycom are too expensive for us.
> >   we try several china brand ip phones. they are all cheap and
> > some of them have good quality. but most of them won't offer future
> firmware
> > support, which we think it's important for ip phones.
> >   searching in the mail list, we found aastra is good, but they don't sale
> to
> > asia. grandstream looks good also.there are many grandstream users in the
> list,
> > can someone share any good or bad experience about grandstream today?
> >   if there are other good choice, please tell us!!
> >   thanks a lot for your help!!
> >
>
> Try getting the Aztech IP150
>  which is
> based on the SNOM 300.
>
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>
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On Dec 20, 2007 12:33 PM, d tbsky <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Hi:
>   i am surveying ip phones for our company. we will use them with
> asterisk.
>   we have office in taiwan, hong kong,singapore and china.
>   cisco and polycom are too expensive for us.
>   we try several china brand ip phones. they are all cheap and
> some of them have good quality. but most of them won't offer future
> firmware
> support, which we think it's important for ip phones.
>   searching in the mail list, we found aastra is good, but they don't sale
> to
> asia. grandstream looks good also.there are many grandstream users in the
> list,
> can someone share any good or bad experience about grandstream today?
>   if there are other good choice, please tell us!!
>   thanks a lot for your help!!
>

Try getting the Aztech IP150 <
http://www.aztech.com.sg/ip_telephony/ip150.html> which is based on the SNOM
300.

Regards,

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Re: [asterisk-users] ip phone suggestion for Asia?

[d tbsky]

hi Joe:
  thanks for your great opinion. we will buy spares of course. our new
office needs about 150 phone.we use alcatel before. but want to
change to asterisk now for better future.
  since aastra is not sale to asia (that's sad, aastra boss seems born
at taiwan). i will choose snom or grandstream. polycom seems really
expensive,
i saw someone say their cheap model has no hardware "transfer" key. so
 i think i need to pay much more to get what i want in polycom.

Regards,
tbskyd

2007/12/20, Joe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> You get what you pay for.
>
> Snoms are good phones. Grandstreams are also good. I hear Snoms are easier
> to get around NAT and the seem like higher quality construction.
> Grandstreams are great for cheap and easy set-ups. I remember one guy
> telling me he buy up a case and if anything goes wrong with a unit he has a
> couple spares to go in its place.
>
> Over all... if you're looking for setting up office phones, Snom, Polycom,
> and Aastra look/feel nice.
> If you're looking to set up small offices or call centers on the cheap,
> Grandstreams are OK.
>
>  I personally like Grandstream for home use, but I use Polycom for work, and
> I hear good things about Snom.
>
>
>
>
> On Dec 20, 2007 12:06 AM, d tbsky <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote:
> > hi Joel:
> >
> >  thanks a lot for your reply. i forgot snom :)
> >  i wrote a snom employ found in this email list, but got no reply.
> >  i saw there are huge complain about grandstream firmware this year.
> > grandstream seems response and solve some of them. i wonder if their
> > product is ok now.
> >  i don't know the situation of snom, will they response to user's request?
> >  thanks again for your kindly help!!
> >
> > Regards,
> > tbskyd
> >
> >
> >
> > 2007/12/20, Joel Hill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> >
> >
> >
> > > Hi tbskyd,
> > >
> > > We have found that the Grandstream's are not that great a phone. One of
> > > our best sellers is the Snom range and I know that the Australian
> > > supplier spends half his time in Hong Kong so you shouldn't have any
> > > problems getting so over there. They are a little more expensive than
> > > the Grandstream's but cheaper than the Polycoms around that Aastra price
> > > range.
> > >
> > > Cheers,
> > >
> > > Joel.
> > >
> > > On Thu, 2007-12-20 at 12:33 +0800, d tbsky wrote:
> > > > Hi:
> > > >i am surveying ip phones for our company. we will use them with
> asterisk.
> > > >we have office in taiwan, hong kong,singapore and china.
> > > >cisco and polycom are too expensive for us.
> > > >we try several china brand ip phones. they are all cheap and
> > > > some of them have good quality. but most of them won't offer future
> firmware
> > > > support, which we think it's important for ip phones.
> > > >searching in the mail list, we found aastra is good, but they don't
> sale to
> > > > asia. grandstream looks good also.there are many grandstream users in
> the list,
> > > > can someone share any good or bad experience about grandstream today?
> > > >if there are other good choice, please tell us!!
> > > >thanks a lot for your help!!
> > > >
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[Joe]

You get what you pay for.

Snoms are good phones. Grandstreams are also good. I hear Snoms are easier
to get around NAT and the seem like higher quality construction.
Grandstreams are great for cheap and easy set-ups. I remember one guy
telling me he buy up a case and if anything goes wrong with a unit he has a
couple spares to go in its place.

Over all... if you're looking for setting up office phones, Snom, Polycom,
and Aastra look/feel nice.
If you're looking to set up small offices or call centers on the cheap,
Grandstreams are OK.

I personally like Grandstream for home use, but I use Polycom for work, and
I hear good things about Snom.



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> hi Joel:
>
>  thanks a lot for your reply. i forgot snom :)
>  i wrote a snom employ found in this email list, but got no reply.
>  i saw there are huge complain about grandstream firmware this year.
> grandstream seems response and solve some of them. i wonder if their
> product is ok now.
>  i don't know the situation of snom, will they response to user's request?
>  thanks again for your kindly help!!
>
> Regards,
> tbskyd
>
>
>
> 2007/12/20, Joel Hill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> > Hi tbskyd,
> >
> > We have found that the Grandstream's are not that great a phone. One of
> > our best sellers is the Snom range and I know that the Australian
> > supplier spends half his time in Hong Kong so you shouldn't have any
> > problems getting so over there. They are a little more expensive than
> > the Grandstream's but cheaper than the Polycoms around that Aastra price
> > range.
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > Joel.
> >
> > On Thu, 2007-12-20 at 12:33 +0800, d tbsky wrote:
> > > Hi:
> > >i am surveying ip phones for our company. we will use them with
> asterisk.
> > >we have office in taiwan, hong kong,singapore and china.
> > >cisco and polycom are too expensive for us.
> > >we try several china brand ip phones. they are all cheap and
> > > some of them have good quality. but most of them won't offer future
> firmware
> > > support, which we think it's important for ip phones.
> > >searching in the mail list, we found aastra is good, but they don't
> sale to
> > > asia. grandstream looks good also.there are many grandstream users in
> the list,
> > > can someone share any good or bad experience about grandstream today?
> > >if there are other good choice, please tell us!!
> > >thanks a lot for your help!!
> > >
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[d tbsky]

hi Joel:

  thanks a lot for your reply. i forgot snom :)
  i wrote a snom employ found in this email list, but got no reply.
  i saw there are huge complain about grandstream firmware this year.
grandstream seems response and solve some of them. i wonder if their
product is ok now.
  i don't know the situation of snom, will they response to user's request?
  thanks again for your kindly help!!

Regards,
tbskyd



2007/12/20, Joel Hill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> Hi tbskyd,
>
> We have found that the Grandstream's are not that great a phone. One of
> our best sellers is the Snom range and I know that the Australian
> supplier spends half his time in Hong Kong so you shouldn't have any
> problems getting so over there. They are a little more expensive than
> the Grandstream's but cheaper than the Polycoms around that Aastra price
> range.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Joel.
>
> On Thu, 2007-12-20 at 12:33 +0800, d tbsky wrote:
> > Hi:
> >i am surveying ip phones for our company. we will use them with asterisk.
> >we have office in taiwan, hong kong,singapore and china.
> >cisco and polycom are too expensive for us.
> >we try several china brand ip phones. they are all cheap and
> > some of them have good quality. but most of them won't offer future firmware
> > support, which we think it's important for ip phones.
> >searching in the mail list, we found aastra is good, but they don't sale 
> > to
> > asia. grandstream looks good also.there are many grandstream users in the 
> > list,
> > can someone share any good or bad experience about grandstream today?
> >if there are other good choice, please tell us!!
> >thanks a lot for your help!!
> >
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[Joel Hill]

Hi tbskyd,

We have found that the Grandstream's are not that great a phone. One of
our best sellers is the Snom range and I know that the Australian
supplier spends half his time in Hong Kong so you shouldn't have any
problems getting so over there. They are a little more expensive than
the Grandstream's but cheaper than the Polycoms around that Aastra price
range.

Cheers,

Joel.

On Thu, 2007-12-20 at 12:33 +0800, d tbsky wrote:
> Hi:
>i am surveying ip phones for our company. we will use them with asterisk.
>we have office in taiwan, hong kong,singapore and china.
>cisco and polycom are too expensive for us.
>we try several china brand ip phones. they are all cheap and
> some of them have good quality. but most of them won't offer future firmware
> support, which we think it's important for ip phones.
>searching in the mail list, we found aastra is good, but they don't sale to
> asia. grandstream looks good also.there are many grandstream users in the 
> list,
> can someone share any good or bad experience about grandstream today?
>if there are other good choice, please tell us!!
>thanks a lot for your help!!
> 
> Regards,
> tbskyd
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[asterisk-users] ip phone suggestion for Asia?

[d tbsky]

Hi:
   i am surveying ip phones for our company. we will use them with asterisk.
   we have office in taiwan, hong kong,singapore and china.
   cisco and polycom are too expensive for us.
   we try several china brand ip phones. they are all cheap and
some of them have good quality. but most of them won't offer future firmware
support, which we think it's important for ip phones.
   searching in the mail list, we found aastra is good, but they don't sale to
asia. grandstream looks good also.there are many grandstream users in the list,
can someone share any good or bad experience about grandstream today?
   if there are other good choice, please tell us!!
   thanks a lot for your help!!

Regards,
tbskyd

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Re: [asterisk-users] IP Phone Provisioning Tool by voip.com.sg - xml generation

[Per Jessen]

Tom Rymes wrote:

> I dunno, I guess I'm not your mother, but then again, it seemed
> pretty rude considering the guy offered the program for free and you
> were criticizing the fact that he didn't develop a free linux app for
> you, too.

Not specifically directed at Toms reply - 

Gee, all Stephen said was "Ugh. This is a Win32 app, isn't it?" ... 
that's hardly an opinion, at most perhaps a rethorical question.  How
was he being rude? 

I happen to agree that the tool discussed is of little value (as we are
a Linux-only shop), but if "Ugh. This is a Win32 app, isn't it?" is
enough to upset you, you really need to get out more. 



/Per Jessen, Zürich

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Re: [asterisk-users] IP Phone Provisioning Tool by voip.com.sg - xml generation

[Tom Rymes]

On May 4, 2007, at 10:08 AM, Stephen Bosch wrote:


Tom Rymes wrote:


On May 3, 2007, at 12:20 PM, Stephen Bosch wrote:


Mats Karlsson wrote:

Take a look here:
http://www.voip.com.sg/voip_products/ 
voip_ip_phone_provisioning_tool.html




Ugh. This is a Win32 app, isn't it?


Wow,

The guy makes a useful application and provides it to the  
community for
free and you have the cojones to bitch and moan b/c it's a windows  
app?

Talk about looking a gift horse in the mouth!


[snip]


B. It's not a gift horse for me, because it's totally use*less* to me.


[snip]

It *is* a gift horse; he gave it to you, after all. The expression  
"To look a gift horse in the mouth" implies that someone gave you a  
horse and you looked into its mouth to see how old it is and whether  
it is of value to *you*. A modern comparison might be pulling up  
froogle to see how much a gift cost as someone gives it to you.


In other words, taking a gift from someone and questioning its value  
to you in front of that person's face is rude, inconsiderate, and bad  
form. I would understand a post along the lines of: "Wow, that looks  
like a great program from the description, but it's a windows only  
app, and I don't run Windows. Does anyone know of something similar  
for Linux?"


I dunno, I guess I'm not your mother, but then again, it seemed  
pretty rude considering the guy offered the program for free and you  
were criticizing the fact that he didn't develop a free linux app for  
you, too.


Tom
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Re: [asterisk-users] IP Phone Provisioning Tool by voip.com.sg - xml generation

[Time Bandit]

A. Yes, I have the cojones. He never mentioned what platform it was for.
We need something like this for Linux. I got all excited about it only
to be terribly disappointed when I unpacked it.



From the original announcement : "It runs on any modern flavor of Windows."


It is not like if he said "runs on windows or better", then Linux
would seem appropriate ;)

You have at least two option beside having a windows machine :
1 - try it in WINE
2 - install Windows in a vmware machine (only way to run windows
without ever rebooting your machine)

hth
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Re: [asterisk-users] IP Phone Provisioning Tool by voip.com.sg - xml generation

[Darrick Hartman]

Stephen Bosch wrote:

Tom Rymes wrote:
  

On May 3, 2007, at 12:20 PM, Stephen Bosch wrote:



Mats Karlsson wrote:
  

Take a look here:
http://www.voip.com.sg/voip_products/voip_ip_phone_provisioning_tool.html



Ugh. This is a Win32 app, isn't it?
  

Wow,

The guy makes a useful application and provides it to the community for
free and you have the cojones to bitch and moan b/c it's a windows app?
Talk about looking a gift horse in the mouth!



A. Yes, I have the cojones. He never mentioned what platform it was for.
We need something like this for Linux. I got all excited about it only
to be terribly disappointed when I unpacked it.
  


Actually the original poster did say this was a Windows program.  I 
believe the exact wording was "It runs on any modern flavor of Windows."


Note that Mats Karlsson was NOT the original poster.

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Darrick Hartman
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Re: [asterisk-users] IP Phone Provisioning Tool by voip.com.sg - xml generation

[Stephen Bosch]

Tom Rymes wrote:
> 
> On May 3, 2007, at 12:20 PM, Stephen Bosch wrote:
> 
>> Mats Karlsson wrote:
>>> Take a look here:
>>> http://www.voip.com.sg/voip_products/voip_ip_phone_provisioning_tool.html
>>>
>>
>> Ugh. This is a Win32 app, isn't it?
> 
> Wow,
> 
> The guy makes a useful application and provides it to the community for
> free and you have the cojones to bitch and moan b/c it's a windows app?
> Talk about looking a gift horse in the mouth!

A. Yes, I have the cojones. He never mentioned what platform it was for.
We need something like this for Linux. I got all excited about it only
to be terribly disappointed when I unpacked it.

B. It's not a gift horse for me, because it's totally use*less* to me.

C. Nobody said you weren't allowed to appreciate it.

-Stephen-
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Re: [asterisk-users] IP Phone Provisioning Tool by voip.com.sg - xml generation

[Andreas van dem Helge]

Here's something similar for Linux: http://sourceforge.net/projects/vgps/

Note I do not support nor endorse Voicepulse. Actually let's get it
straight, I detest Voicepulse.

On 5/3/07, Stephen Bosch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Mats Karlsson wrote:
> Take a look here:
> http://www.voip.com.sg/voip_products/voip_ip_phone_provisioning_tool.html

Ugh. This is a Win32 app, isn't it?

-Stephen-
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Re: [asterisk-users] IP Phone Provisioning Tool by voip.com.sg - xml generation

[Tom Rymes]

On May 3, 2007, at 12:20 PM, Stephen Bosch wrote:


Mats Karlsson wrote:

Take a look here:
http://www.voip.com.sg/voip_products/ 
voip_ip_phone_provisioning_tool.html


Ugh. This is a Win32 app, isn't it?


Wow,

The guy makes a useful application and provides it to the community  
for free and you have the cojones to bitch and moan b/c it's a  
windows app? Talk about looking a gift horse in the mouth!


Tom
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Re: [asterisk-users] IP Phone Provisioning Tool by voip.com.sg - xml generation

[Erik Anderson]

On 5/3/07, Stephen Bosch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


Ugh. This is a Win32 app, isn't it?


Yup.
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Re: [asterisk-users] IP Phone Provisioning Tool by voip.com.sg - xml generation

[Stephen Bosch]

Mats Karlsson wrote:
> Take a look here:
> http://www.voip.com.sg/voip_products/voip_ip_phone_provisioning_tool.html

Ugh. This is a Win32 app, isn't it?

-Stephen-
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Re: [asterisk-users] IP Phone Provisioning Tool by voip.com.sg - xmlgeneration

[Gavin Spurgeon]

> If you are interested in it you can download a copy at
> http://www.voip.com.sg/voip_ip_phone_provisioning_tool.html 


I got an HTTP 404 on the above.


A very quick look on the site and i found the URL from the Menus..

http://www.voip.com.sg/voip_products/voip_ip_phone_provisioning_tool.html

Best Regards


Gavin Spurgeon
Assistant Systems Administrator
Leigh City Technology College
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.leighctc.kent.sch.uk 
Tel: 01322 620501

Fax: 01322 620599
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Re: [asterisk-users] IP Phone Provisioning Tool by voip.com.sg - xml generation

[Dave Cotton]

On Thu, 2007-05-03 at 11:38 +0200, Per Jessen wrote:
> San Singhania wrote:
> 
> > If you are interested in it you can download a copy at
> > http://www.voip.com.sg/voip_ip_phone_provisioning_tool.html 
> 
> I got an HTTP 404 on the above.

By going to the main pageand trying asterisk stuff I found this.

http://www.voip.com.sg/voip_products/voip_ip_phone_provisioning_tool.html
-- 
Dave Cotton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>


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