Re: [Asterisk-Users] max asterisk load

2004-06-07 Thread shabanip
thanks everybody for your answers,
I finally decided to change my pbx configuration to:

- 1 x TE410P/TE405P quad T1
- 3 x TA750 CB (60 FXO)
- echo cancellation will be used on fxo channels
- up to 600 registered sip phone
- using ulaw as default codec for all connections
- voicemail, ACD, IVR and MOH will be used
- conference will be rarely used.

whats your recommended pc now? Is one * box enough for this job?

shabanip

- Original Message - 
From: Anton Tinchev [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, June 04, 2004 7:07 AM
Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] max asterisk load


shabanip wrote:

 I have a big case:
  - 5 x TE410P/TE405P quad T1 (try to not sharing IRQs on them)
  - 20 x TA750 CB (60 FXO and 420 FXS)
  - echo cancellation will be used if required.
  - up to 200 registered sip phone
  - using ulaw as default codec for all connections
  - voicemail, ACD, IVR and MOH will be used
  - conference will be rarely used.

 whats your recommended pc? a quad xeon or even a quad opteron with xxGB
 of memory? is it enough for this big job?
Of course, don't use FXO. T/E1 is better.
Use single CPU Machine.
Quad Xeon costs 20 times than a P4/3Ghz/800Mhz FSB Machines. And it is
only 2 to 2.5 times fatser.
P4SCi from Supermicro is a good MB.
Try to avoid using of IP (SIP) phones - aastra 390/480 with digium card
outperforms anything.
How much of these 420FXS will be active in the same moment - this is
critical to designing the system.
420FXS = 18 Channel banks. Spread the system to 6 machines:
Each machine - 3 channel banks + 1 T1/E1 for Incoming in Each machine.
1 Machine for SIP incoming and 1 for all additional stuff - Voicemail ...

And give some more information - how much ACD queues will be, how much
of the FXS phones will be connected to the each queue ...




 shabanip


.G,

Come on now, give us more.

How many concurrent calls?  What's your idea of a modern PC? Processor
Speed, HardDrive space, etc?  How many voicemail users?  Nat'd SIP
clients? What's your lan setup?  Codec Translation?  Voice

 Compression,

Echo Cancellation..?

Before you get information, you have to give information.  People

 aren't

going to pull your teeth to help you.

The information required should pop out of your head into the e-mail.
Personally, I'd reccommend reading up on PBX's before making posts

 like

this.  Not trying to start a flame, but come on, let's be serious

 here.

- Brent

On Tue, 17 Feb 2004, [iso-8859-1] Gustavo Garc�a Bernardo wrote:


We would like to use asterisk as a SIP phone PBX with voicemail

 support

only. The hardware could be a typical modern PC.

Thank you very much.

.G

-Mensaje original-
De: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] nombre de mattf
Enviado el: martes, 17 de febrero de 2004 16:48
Para: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Asunto: RE: [Asterisk-Users] max asterisk load


That is extremely depandant upon what you want to do. First we have

 to know

what the job of the asterisk server is, will it be an inbound ACD, a

 SIP

phone PBX, a T1-only IVR, a conference call system, a voicemail

 system, and

office phone system with H323 phones, etc..

Also, we need to know what hardware you were planning on using.

The load is extremely depandant upon what you are doing with it. For
example, a simple IVR/Zap-T1-channels-only system can handle 10

 times the

number of consecutive calls of a SIPZap conference call system(at

 least in

my experience).

Let us know what you plan on doing with it and we'll give you our

 best

guesses as to the capacity.

MATT---

-Original Message-
From: Gustavo Garc�a Bernardo [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2004 9:54 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [Asterisk-Users] max asterisk load


Hi,

We're evaluating asterisk, somebody has measured maximum asterisk

 load

(simultaneus calls, calls per seconds...)?  Are there any stimation?

Thx. Best regards.
.G

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RE: [Asterisk-Users] max asterisk load

2004-06-07 Thread Nik Martin
I'd do three separate 2 U Rackmounts, loaded with ASUS MB's with SATA raid
controllers, onboard nic and video
3.0 gig 800mHz FSB p4's
Slackware Linux, latest 2.4 kernel
1 gig ram 
2 120 gig sata drives each server, in raid 1
1 t100p each
1 TA750 connected to each box


YOU NEED REDUNDANCY WITH THAT MUCH POTENTIAL TRAFFIC



I'd do T100P's, 

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of shabanip
 Sent: Monday, June 07, 2004 7:10 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] max asterisk load
 
 
 thanks everybody for your answers,
 I finally decided to change my pbx configuration to:
 
 - 1 x TE410P/TE405P quad T1
 - 3 x TA750 CB (60 FXO)
 - echo cancellation will be used on fxo channels
 - up to 600 registered sip phone
 - using ulaw as default codec for all connections
 - voicemail, ACD, IVR and MOH will be used
 - conference will be rarely used.
 
 whats your recommended pc now? Is one * box enough for this job?
 
 shabanip
 
 - Original Message - 
 From: Anton Tinchev [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Friday, June 04, 2004 7:07 AM
 Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] max asterisk load
 
 
 shabanip wrote:
 
  I have a big case:
   - 5 x TE410P/TE405P quad T1 (try to not sharing IRQs on them)
   - 20 x TA750 CB (60 FXO and 420 FXS)
   - echo cancellation will be used if required.
   - up to 200 registered sip phone
   - using ulaw as default codec for all connections
   - voicemail, ACD, IVR and MOH will be used
   - conference will be rarely used.
 
  whats your recommended pc? a quad xeon or even a quad opteron with 
  xxGB of memory? is it enough for this big job?
 Of course, don't use FXO. T/E1 is better.
 Use single CPU Machine.
 Quad Xeon costs 20 times than a P4/3Ghz/800Mhz FSB Machines. 
 And it is only 2 to 2.5 times fatser. P4SCi from Supermicro 
 is a good MB. Try to avoid using of IP (SIP) phones - aastra 
 390/480 with digium card outperforms anything. How much of 
 these 420FXS will be active in the same moment - this is 
 critical to designing the system. 420FXS = 18 Channel banks. 
 Spread the system to 6 machines: Each machine - 3 channel 
 banks + 1 T1/E1 for Incoming in Each machine. 1 Machine for 
 SIP incoming and 1 for all additional stuff - Voicemail ...
 
 And give some more information - how much ACD queues will be, 
 how much of the FXS phones will be connected to the each queue ...
 
 
 
 
  shabanip
 
 
 .G,
 
 Come on now, give us more.
 
 How many concurrent calls?  What's your idea of a modern 
 PC? Processor 
 Speed, HardDrive space, etc?  How many voicemail users?  Nat'd SIP 
 clients? What's your lan setup?  Codec Translation?  Voice
 
  Compression,
 
 Echo Cancellation..?
 
 Before you get information, you have to give information.  People
 
  aren't
 
 going to pull your teeth to help you.
 
 The information required should pop out of your head into 
 the e-mail. 
 Personally, I'd reccommend reading up on PBX's before making posts
 
  like
 
 this.  Not trying to start a flame, but come on, let's be serious
 
  here.
 
 - Brent
 
 On Tue, 17 Feb 2004, [iso-8859-1] Gustavo Garc�a Bernardo wrote:
 
 
 We would like to use asterisk as a SIP phone PBX with voicemail
 
  support
 
 only. The hardware could be a typical modern PC.
 
 Thank you very much.
 
 .G
 
 -Mensaje original-
 De: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] nombre de mattf 
 Enviado el: martes, 17 de febrero de 2004 16:48
 Para: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
 Asunto: RE: [Asterisk-Users] max asterisk load
 
 
 That is extremely depandant upon what you want to do. First we have
 
  to know
 
 what the job of the asterisk server is, will it be an 
 inbound ACD, a
 
  SIP
 
 phone PBX, a T1-only IVR, a conference call system, a voicemail
 
  system, and
 
 office phone system with H323 phones, etc..
 
 Also, we need to know what hardware you were planning on using.
 
 The load is extremely depandant upon what you are doing 
 with it. For 
 example, a simple IVR/Zap-T1-channels-only system can handle 10
 
  times the
 
 number of consecutive calls of a SIPZap conference call system(at
 
  least in
 
 my experience).
 
 Let us know what you plan on doing with it and we'll give you our
 
  best
 
 guesses as to the capacity.
 
 MATT---
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Gustavo Garc�a Bernardo [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2004 9:54 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: [Asterisk-Users] max asterisk load
 
 
 Hi,
 
 We're evaluating asterisk, somebody has measured maximum asterisk
 
  load
 
 (simultaneus calls, calls per seconds...)?  Are there any 
 stimation?
 
 Thx. Best regards.
 .G
 
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] max asterisk load

2004-06-07 Thread Steven Critchfield
On Mon, 2004-06-07 at 07:10, shabanip wrote:
 thanks everybody for your answers,
 I finally decided to change my pbx configuration to:
 
 - 1 x TE410P/TE405P quad T1
 - 3 x TA750 CB (60 FXO)
 - echo cancellation will be used on fxo channels
 - up to 600 registered sip phone
 - using ulaw as default codec for all connections
 - voicemail, ACD, IVR and MOH will be used
 - conference will be rarely used.
 
 whats your recommended pc now? Is one * box enough for this job?

Your still broken. Too many analog FXO ports. Do you want headaches on a
regular basis? Do you wish this to fail? Look into PRA/I or what ever
the flavor of ISDN you have that exceeds 2 B channels per copper pair.
You will most likely see a savings in your phone bill to start with. You
will definitely see a savings in hardware by a few thousand dollars. 

The number of SIP phones isn't very relevant except for when they need
to use special functions on the PBX. When a SIP to SIP call is made,
asterisk should get out of the loop unless you  need access to MOH in
such cases. 

So your PBX only needs to be concerned with your PSTN connectivity plus
a few calls at a time for voicemail. So at max 120 call legs dealing
with PSTN and say 20-30 for voicemail. With no compression of the audio,
you might be able to handle that in a nice dual proc machine with a
really good and stable ethernet card.  
-- 
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] max asterisk load

2004-06-07 Thread Michael Welter
Nik Martin wrote:
I'd do three separate 2 U Rackmounts, loaded with ASUS MB's with SATA raid
controllers, onboard nic and video
3.0 gig 800mHz FSB p4's
Slackware Linux, latest 2.4 kernel
1 gig ram 
2 120 gig sata drives each server, in raid 1
1 t100p each
1 TA750 connected to each box

YOU NEED REDUNDANCY WITH THAT MUCH POTENTIAL TRAFFIC

I'd do T100P's, 
Would this mean three separate voicemail systems?  Why not diskless 
servers with /var on an nsf mount from a file server?

--
Michael Welter
Introspect Telephony Corp.
Denver, Colorado
+1 303 674 2575
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RE: [Asterisk-Users] max asterisk load

2004-06-07 Thread Nik Martin

 
 Would this mean three separate voicemail systems?  Why not diskless 
 servers with /var on an nsf mount from a file server?
 
 -- 

Good point, a fourth server with the sata raid subsystem would offer a much
more efficient and administratable system.

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RE: [Asterisk-Users] max asterisk load

2004-06-03 Thread shabanip
I have a big case:
 - 5 x TE410P/TE405P quad T1 (try to not sharing IRQs on them)
 - 20 x TA750 CB (60 FXO and 420 FXS)
 - echo cancellation will be used if required.
 - up to 200 registered sip phone
 - using ulaw as default codec for all connections
 - voicemail, ACD, IVR and MOH will be used
 - conference will be rarely used.

whats your recommended pc? a quad xeon or even a quad opteron with xxGB 
of memory? is it enough for this big job?

shabanip

 .G,
 
 Come on now, give us more.
 
 How many concurrent calls?  What's your idea of a modern PC? Processor
 Speed, HardDrive space, etc?  How many voicemail users?  Nat'd SIP
 clients? What's your lan setup?  Codec Translation?  Voice 
Compression,
 Echo Cancellation..?
 
 Before you get information, you have to give information.  People 
aren't
 going to pull your teeth to help you.
 
 The information required should pop out of your head into the e-mail.
 Personally, I'd reccommend reading up on PBX's before making posts 
like
 this.  Not trying to start a flame, but come on, let's be serious 
here.
 
 - Brent
 
 On Tue, 17 Feb 2004, [iso-8859-1] Gustavo Garc�a Bernardo wrote:
 
  
  We would like to use asterisk as a SIP phone PBX with voicemail 
support
  only. The hardware could be a typical modern PC.
  
  Thank you very much.
  
  .G
  
  -Mensaje original-
  De: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] nombre de mattf
  Enviado el: martes, 17 de febrero de 2004 16:48
  Para: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
  Asunto: RE: [Asterisk-Users] max asterisk load
  
  
  That is extremely depandant upon what you want to do. First we have 
to know
  what the job of the asterisk server is, will it be an inbound ACD, a 
SIP
  phone PBX, a T1-only IVR, a conference call system, a voicemail 
system, and
  office phone system with H323 phones, etc..
  
  Also, we need to know what hardware you were planning on using.
  
  The load is extremely depandant upon what you are doing with it. For
  example, a simple IVR/Zap-T1-channels-only system can handle 10 
times the
  number of consecutive calls of a SIPZap conference call system(at 
least in
  my experience).
  
  Let us know what you plan on doing with it and we'll give you our 
best
  guesses as to the capacity.
  
  MATT---
  
  -Original Message-
  From: Gustavo Garc�a Bernardo [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2004 9:54 AM
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: [Asterisk-Users] max asterisk load
  
  
  Hi,
  
  We're evaluating asterisk, somebody has measured maximum asterisk 
load
  (simultaneus calls, calls per seconds...)?  Are there any stimation?
  
  Thx. Best regards.
  .G
  
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RE: [Asterisk-Users] max asterisk load

2004-06-03 Thread Steven Critchfield
On Thu, 2004-06-03 at 10:53, shabanip wrote:
 I have a big case:
  - 5 x TE410P/TE405P quad T1 (try to not sharing IRQs on them)
  - 20 x TA750 CB (60 FXO and 420 FXS)
  - echo cancellation will be used if required.
  - up to 200 registered sip phone
  - using ulaw as default codec for all connections
  - voicemail, ACD, IVR and MOH will be used
  - conference will be rarely used.
 
 whats your recommended pc? a quad xeon or even a quad opteron with xxGB 
 of memory? is it enough for this big job?

Couple of problems with your wish.

1st, at 60 FXO, stop using analog and get T1 or E1 links in. You
probably will receive a discount on the links and you get away from all
the analog problems. Not to mention at least the cost of 2 or 3 TA750
setups and the FXO cards. 

2nd. You don't want that many TE4XXP cards in the same machine, one
crash and all calls go down. Spread your risk.

3rd. A quad anything is going to cost you more than 4 single cpu
machines with similar cpus. SMP does not scale at x*cpu speed, it is
about 70%-80% additional per CPU. So 4 single machines will be about 1
whole CPU faster than the quad anyways.

4th. echo cancellation is always required with analog links.

So the suggestion is 2 or 3 decent P4 machines and spread the cards
around. Maybe use a forth machine to hold all voicemail. Consider 1
machine with the the PSTN connections and and 2 channel banks. Machine 2
and 3 handle only channel banks with 2 cards apiece, Machine 4 is
voicemail and possibly the SIP interface. Machine 4 only needs an
ethernet card, raid, and a decent amount of ram. Machine 2 and 3 need a
decent ethernet card and decent ram, maybe an IDE drive each. Machine 1
needs decent memory, ethernet card, and possibly just an ide drive.

A little extension magic and all is good to go and less than a quad
anything board.
-- 
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RE: [Asterisk-Users] max asterisk load

2004-06-03 Thread Philipp von Klitzing
Hi!

  - 5 x TE410P/TE405P quad T1 (try to not sharing IRQs on them)

It appears to be good practice to not have more than two of those cards 
in one machine. That makes it 3 servers - putting all those cards into a 
single box is most probably not the way to go.

  - 20 x TA750 CB (60 FXO and 420 FXS)
  - echo cancellation will be used if required.
  - up to 200 registered sip phone
  - using ulaw as default codec for all connections
  - voicemail, ACD, IVR and MOH will be used
  - conference will be rarely used.
 
 whats your recommended pc? a quad xeon or even a quad opteron with xxGB 
 of memory? is it enough for this big job?

It's rather a question of bus traffic than of CPU power, especially since 
you don't appear to be doing much transcoding. In any case you'll want to 
start small and test before going big.

Finall look here for more details:
http://www.voip-info.org/wiki-Asterisk+dimensioning
http://www.voip-info.org/wiki-Asterisk+administration

Cheers, Philipp


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RE: [Asterisk-Users] max asterisk load

2004-06-03 Thread mattf
No server in existence could handle 480-600 concurrent Zap channels in
Asterisk on a single machine with any measure of reliability. My suggestion:
break this up into at least 2(preferrably 5 x 1U) servers and give yourself
a little more redundancy and reduced downtime when something does fail. This
will also force you to have a more distributed system which will make it
easier to add on to in the future.

One very important thing to remember when you are talking about SIP - Zap
calls in Asterisk is the processor spikes. Taken on average, a quad
processor machine might be able to handle 200 concurrent Sip - Zap
conversations, but the reality is that there is a 4x load spike that occurs
at random times with Sip - Zap conversations that would kill your big box
when one occurs.

MATT---


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From: shabanip [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, June 03, 2004 11:53 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [Asterisk-Users] max asterisk load


I have a big case:
 - 5 x TE410P/TE405P quad T1 (try to not sharing IRQs on them)
 - 20 x TA750 CB (60 FXO and 420 FXS)
 - echo cancellation will be used if required.
 - up to 200 registered sip phone
 - using ulaw as default codec for all connections
 - voicemail, ACD, IVR and MOH will be used
 - conference will be rarely used.

whats your recommended pc? a quad xeon or even a quad opteron with xxGB 
of memory? is it enough for this big job?

shabanip

 .G,
 
 Come on now, give us more.
 
 How many concurrent calls?  What's your idea of a modern PC? Processor
 Speed, HardDrive space, etc?  How many voicemail users?  Nat'd SIP
 clients? What's your lan setup?  Codec Translation?  Voice 
Compression,
 Echo Cancellation..?
 
 Before you get information, you have to give information.  People 
aren't
 going to pull your teeth to help you.
 
 The information required should pop out of your head into the e-mail.
 Personally, I'd reccommend reading up on PBX's before making posts 
like
 this.  Not trying to start a flame, but come on, let's be serious 
here.
 
 - Brent
 
 On Tue, 17 Feb 2004, [iso-8859-1] Gustavo Garc�a Bernardo wrote:
 
  
  We would like to use asterisk as a SIP phone PBX with voicemail 
support
  only. The hardware could be a typical modern PC.
  
  Thank you very much.
  
  .G
  
  -Mensaje original-
  De: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] nombre de mattf
  Enviado el: martes, 17 de febrero de 2004 16:48
  Para: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
  Asunto: RE: [Asterisk-Users] max asterisk load
  
  
  That is extremely depandant upon what you want to do. First we have 
to know
  what the job of the asterisk server is, will it be an inbound ACD, a 
SIP
  phone PBX, a T1-only IVR, a conference call system, a voicemail 
system, and
  office phone system with H323 phones, etc..
  
  Also, we need to know what hardware you were planning on using.
  
  The load is extremely depandant upon what you are doing with it. For
  example, a simple IVR/Zap-T1-channels-only system can handle 10 
times the
  number of consecutive calls of a SIPZap conference call system(at 
least in
  my experience).
  
  Let us know what you plan on doing with it and we'll give you our 
best
  guesses as to the capacity.
  
  MATT---
  
  -Original Message-
  From: Gustavo Garc�a Bernardo [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2004 9:54 AM
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: [Asterisk-Users] max asterisk load
  
  
  Hi,
  
  We're evaluating asterisk, somebody has measured maximum asterisk 
load
  (simultaneus calls, calls per seconds...)?  Are there any stimation?
  
  Thx. Best regards.
  .G
  
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] max asterisk load

2004-06-03 Thread Andrew Kohlsmith
On Thursday 03 June 2004 13:54, Steven Critchfield wrote:
 So the suggestion is 2 or 3 decent P4 machines and spread the cards
 around. Maybe use a forth machine to hold all voicemail. Consider 1
 machine with the the PSTN connections and and 2 channel banks. Machine 2
 and 3 handle only channel banks with 2 cards apiece, Machine 4 is
 voicemail and possibly the SIP interface. Machine 4 only needs an
 ethernet card, raid, and a decent amount of ram. Machine 2 and 3 need a
 decent ethernet card and decent ram, maybe an IDE drive each. Machine 1
 needs decent memory, ethernet card, and possibly just an ide drive.

Just a note -- wouldn't machine 4 need some kind of Zap interface for timing 
for voicemail?  I realize you can get timing from the RTP stream for SIP but 
what if the SIP phone was doing silence supression?  Is ztdummy considered 
stable enough for production use?

-A.
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RE: [Asterisk-Users] max asterisk load

2004-06-03 Thread brian
On that note zap can only go to Zap/255 (with 250 or something being the
max)

bkw

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 No server in existence could handle 480-600 concurrent Zap channels in
 Asterisk on a single machine with any measure of reliability. My
 suggestion:
 break this up into at least 2(preferrably 5 x 1U) servers and give
 yourself
 a little more redundancy and reduced downtime when something does fail.
 This
 will also force you to have a more distributed system which will make it
 easier to add on to in the future.

 One very important thing to remember when you are talking about SIP - Zap
 calls in Asterisk is the processor spikes. Taken on average, a quad
 processor machine might be able to handle 200 concurrent Sip - Zap
 conversations, but the reality is that there is a 4x load spike that
 occurs
 at random times with Sip - Zap conversations that would kill your big box
 when one occurs.

 MATT---


 -Original Message-
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 Sent: Thursday, June 03, 2004 11:53 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: [Asterisk-Users] max asterisk load


 I have a big case:
  - 5 x TE410P/TE405P quad T1 (try to not sharing IRQs on them)
  - 20 x TA750 CB (60 FXO and 420 FXS)
  - echo cancellation will be used if required.
  - up to 200 registered sip phone
  - using ulaw as default codec for all connections
  - voicemail, ACD, IVR and MOH will be used
  - conference will be rarely used.

 whats your recommended pc? a quad xeon or even a quad opteron with xxGB
 of memory? is it enough for this big job?

 shabanip

  .G,
 
  Come on now, give us more.
 
  How many concurrent calls?  What's your idea of a modern PC? Processor
  Speed, HardDrive space, etc?  How many voicemail users?  Nat'd SIP
  clients? What's your lan setup?  Codec Translation?  Voice
 Compression,
  Echo Cancellation..?
 
  Before you get information, you have to give information.  People
 aren't
  going to pull your teeth to help you.
 
  The information required should pop out of your head into the e-mail.
  Personally, I'd reccommend reading up on PBX's before making posts
 like
  this.  Not trying to start a flame, but come on, let's be serious
 here.
 
  - Brent
 
  On Tue, 17 Feb 2004, [iso-8859-1] Gustavo Garc�a Bernardo wrote:
 
  
   We would like to use asterisk as a SIP phone PBX with voicemail
 support
   only. The hardware could be a typical modern PC.
  
   Thank you very much.
  
   .G
  
   -Mensaje original-
   De: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] nombre de mattf
   Enviado el: martes, 17 de febrero de 2004 16:48
   Para: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
   Asunto: RE: [Asterisk-Users] max asterisk load
  
  
   That is extremely depandant upon what you want to do. First we have
 to know
   what the job of the asterisk server is, will it be an inbound ACD, a
 SIP
   phone PBX, a T1-only IVR, a conference call system, a voicemail
 system, and
   office phone system with H323 phones, etc..
  
   Also, we need to know what hardware you were planning on using.
  
   The load is extremely depandant upon what you are doing with it. For
   example, a simple IVR/Zap-T1-channels-only system can handle 10
 times the
   number of consecutive calls of a SIPZap conference call system(at
 least in
   my experience).
  
   Let us know what you plan on doing with it and we'll give you our
 best
   guesses as to the capacity.
  
   MATT---
  
   -Original Message-
   From: Gustavo Garc�a Bernardo [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2004 9:54 AM
   To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Subject: [Asterisk-Users] max asterisk load
  
  
   Hi,
  
   We're evaluating asterisk, somebody has measured maximum asterisk
 load
   (simultaneus calls, calls per seconds...)?  Are there any stimation?
  
   Thx. Best regards.
   .G
  
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] max asterisk load

2004-06-03 Thread Andrew Kohlsmith
On Thursday 03 June 2004 15:03, brian wrote:
 On that note zap can only go to Zap/255 (with 250 or something being the
 max)

I thought that Asterisk used /dev/zap/channel and not individual devices and 
was thus absolved of this limitation?

Regards,
Andrew
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RE: [Asterisk-Users] max asterisk load

2004-06-03 Thread brian
Asterisk doesn't support silence suppression.

NEXT!!!

bkw


 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:asterisk-users-
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andrew Kohlsmith
 Sent: Thursday, June 03, 2004 2:14 PM
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 Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] max asterisk load

 On Thursday 03 June 2004 13:54, Steven Critchfield wrote:
  So the suggestion is 2 or 3 decent P4 machines and spread the cards
  around. Maybe use a forth machine to hold all voicemail. Consider 1
  machine with the the PSTN connections and and 2 channel banks. Machine 2
  and 3 handle only channel banks with 2 cards apiece, Machine 4 is
  voicemail and possibly the SIP interface. Machine 4 only needs an
  ethernet card, raid, and a decent amount of ram. Machine 2 and 3 need a
  decent ethernet card and decent ram, maybe an IDE drive each. Machine 1
  needs decent memory, ethernet card, and possibly just an ide drive.

 Just a note -- wouldn't machine 4 need some kind of Zap interface for
 timing
 for voicemail?  I realize you can get timing from the RTP stream for SIP
 but
 what if the SIP phone was doing silence supression?  Is ztdummy considered
 stable enough for production use?

 -A.
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] max asterisk load

2004-06-03 Thread Anton Tinchev
shabanip wrote:
I have a big case:
 - 5 x TE410P/TE405P quad T1 (try to not sharing IRQs on them)
 - 20 x TA750 CB (60 FXO and 420 FXS)
 - echo cancellation will be used if required.
 - up to 200 registered sip phone
 - using ulaw as default codec for all connections
 - voicemail, ACD, IVR and MOH will be used
 - conference will be rarely used.
whats your recommended pc? a quad xeon or even a quad opteron with xxGB 
of memory? is it enough for this big job?
Of course, don't use FXO. T/E1 is better.
Use single CPU Machine.
Quad Xeon costs 20 times than a P4/3Ghz/800Mhz FSB Machines. And it is 
only 2 to 2.5 times fatser.
P4SCi from Supermicro is a good MB.
Try to avoid using of IP (SIP) phones - aastra 390/480 with digium card 
outperforms anything.
How much of these 420FXS will be active in the same moment - this is 
critical to designing the system.
420FXS = 18 Channel banks. Spread the system to 6 machines:
Each machine - 3 channel banks + 1 T1/E1 for Incoming in Each machine.
1 Machine for SIP incoming and 1 for all additional stuff - Voicemail ...

And give some more information - how much ACD queues will be, how much 
of the FXS phones will be connected to the each queue ...


shabanip

.G,
Come on now, give us more.
How many concurrent calls?  What's your idea of a modern PC? Processor
Speed, HardDrive space, etc?  How many voicemail users?  Nat'd SIP
clients? What's your lan setup?  Codec Translation?  Voice 
Compression,
Echo Cancellation..?
Before you get information, you have to give information.  People 
aren't
going to pull your teeth to help you.
The information required should pop out of your head into the e-mail.
Personally, I'd reccommend reading up on PBX's before making posts 
like
this.  Not trying to start a flame, but come on, let's be serious 
here.
- Brent
On Tue, 17 Feb 2004, [iso-8859-1] Gustavo Garc�a Bernardo wrote:

We would like to use asterisk as a SIP phone PBX with voicemail 
support
only. The hardware could be a typical modern PC.
Thank you very much.
.G
-Mensaje original-
De: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] nombre de mattf
Enviado el: martes, 17 de febrero de 2004 16:48
Para: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Asunto: RE: [Asterisk-Users] max asterisk load
That is extremely depandant upon what you want to do. First we have 
to know
what the job of the asterisk server is, will it be an inbound ACD, a 
SIP
phone PBX, a T1-only IVR, a conference call system, a voicemail 
system, and
office phone system with H323 phones, etc..
Also, we need to know what hardware you were planning on using.
The load is extremely depandant upon what you are doing with it. For
example, a simple IVR/Zap-T1-channels-only system can handle 10 
times the
number of consecutive calls of a SIPZap conference call system(at 
least in
my experience).
Let us know what you plan on doing with it and we'll give you our 
best
guesses as to the capacity.
MATT---
-Original Message-
From: Gustavo Garc�a Bernardo [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2004 9:54 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [Asterisk-Users] max asterisk load
Hi,
We're evaluating asterisk, somebody has measured maximum asterisk 
load
(simultaneus calls, calls per seconds...)?  Are there any stimation?
Thx. Best regards.
.G
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] max asterisk load

2004-02-19 Thread Arretni VoIP Tech
anybody came up with something on this? :)

i am also planning to replace our SER with *.  it has most of SER's features
and is extensible as the SER. but how many concurrent calls it can handle? I
have no answer.  Plus, there is still problem on voicemail on recorded
message using G729-format.

Assuming calls will be using G711, a little of g729 (max-15), 1000 SIP
(multi-vendor: Cisco, GS, MOtorola, Dlink,etc), of which 80% clients are
behind NAT, and server of I-P4 2GHz, 80GB HD and 4GRAM, will that work?


- Original Message - 
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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2004 2:44 PM
Subject: RE: [Asterisk-Users] max asterisk load


 .G,

 Come on now, give us more.

 How many concurrent calls?  What's your idea of a modern PC? Processor
 Speed, HardDrive space, etc?  How many voicemail users?  Nat'd SIP
 clients? What's your lan setup?  Codec Translation?  Voice Compression,
 Echo Cancellation..?

 Before you get information, you have to give information.  People aren't
 going to pull your teeth to help you.

 The information required should pop out of your head into the e-mail.
 Personally, I'd reccommend reading up on PBX's before making posts like
 this.  Not trying to start a flame, but come on, let's be serious here.

 - Brent

 On Tue, 17 Feb 2004, [iso-8859-1] Gustavo García Bernardo wrote:

 
  We would like to use asterisk as a SIP phone PBX with voicemail support
  only. The hardware could be a typical modern PC.
 
  Thank you very much.
 
  .G
 
  -Mensaje original-
  De: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] nombre de mattf
  Enviado el: martes, 17 de febrero de 2004 16:48
  Para: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
  Asunto: RE: [Asterisk-Users] max asterisk load
 
 
  That is extremely depandant upon what you want to do. First we have to
know
  what the job of the asterisk server is, will it be an inbound ACD, a SIP
  phone PBX, a T1-only IVR, a conference call system, a voicemail system,
and
  office phone system with H323 phones, etc..
 
  Also, we need to know what hardware you were planning on using.
 
  The load is extremely depandant upon what you are doing with it. For
  example, a simple IVR/Zap-T1-channels-only system can handle 10 times
the
  number of consecutive calls of a SIPZap conference call system(at least
in
  my experience).
 
  Let us know what you plan on doing with it and we'll give you our best
  guesses as to the capacity.
 
  MATT---
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Gustavo García Bernardo [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2004 9:54 AM
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: [Asterisk-Users] max asterisk load
 
 
  Hi,
 
  We're evaluating asterisk, somebody has measured maximum asterisk load
  (simultaneus calls, calls per seconds...)?  Are there any stimation?
 
  Thx. Best regards.
  .G
 
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] max asterisk load

2004-02-19 Thread Brancaleoni Matteo
hi.
 Assuming calls will be using G711, a little of g729 (max-15), 1000 SIP
 (multi-vendor: Cisco, GS, MOtorola, Dlink,etc), of which 80% clients are
 behind NAT, and server of I-P4 2GHz, 80GB HD and 4GRAM, will that work?

depends on how many concurrent calls you have.
you can have 10k users, but only 10 calls a time,
so a little server is needed. think of that.

supposing you have 30% of your users doing calls
at the same time, I would say to to your question.
perhaps a dual 2.4 gigs fits better.

imho is to have several servers, and spread the load
between them.

the best way (but far from being perfect)
is to test it. put up 2 asterisk servers,
and generate calls between them.
see when the load is high 
(or asterisk crashes : )

now you have an idea :)

Matteo.

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Re: [Asterisk-Users] max asterisk load

2004-02-18 Thread Juan Cardenas
Using what kind of setup. PRI,T1  VOIP?

Juan Cardenas
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 Best I can say is I've had 26 simultaneous calls.  Load was fine, server
could've taken more I'm sure.


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 Hi,

 We're evaluating asterisk, somebody has measured maximum asterisk load
 (simultaneus calls, calls per seconds...)?  Are there any stimation?

 Thx. Best regards.
 .G

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[Asterisk-Users] max asterisk load

2004-02-17 Thread Gustavo García Bernardo
Hi,

We're evaluating asterisk, somebody has measured maximum asterisk load
(simultaneus calls, calls per seconds...)?  Are there any stimation?

Thx. Best regards.
.G

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RE: [Asterisk-Users] max asterisk load

2004-02-17 Thread mattf
That is extremely depandant upon what you want to do. First we have to know
what the job of the asterisk server is, will it be an inbound ACD, a SIP
phone PBX, a T1-only IVR, a conference call system, a voicemail system, and
office phone system with H323 phones, etc..

Also, we need to know what hardware you were planning on using.

The load is extremely depandant upon what you are doing with it. For
example, a simple IVR/Zap-T1-channels-only system can handle 10 times the
number of consecutive calls of a SIPZap conference call system(at least in
my experience).

Let us know what you plan on doing with it and we'll give you our best
guesses as to the capacity.

MATT---

-Original Message-
From: Gustavo García Bernardo [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2004 9:54 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [Asterisk-Users] max asterisk load


Hi,

We're evaluating asterisk, somebody has measured maximum asterisk load
(simultaneus calls, calls per seconds...)?  Are there any stimation?

Thx. Best regards.
.G

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RE: [Asterisk-Users] max asterisk load

2004-02-17 Thread Gustavo García Bernardo

We would like to use asterisk as a SIP phone PBX with voicemail support
only. The hardware could be a typical modern PC.

Thank you very much.

.G

-Mensaje original-
De: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] nombre de mattf
Enviado el: martes, 17 de febrero de 2004 16:48
Para: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Asunto: RE: [Asterisk-Users] max asterisk load


That is extremely depandant upon what you want to do. First we have to know
what the job of the asterisk server is, will it be an inbound ACD, a SIP
phone PBX, a T1-only IVR, a conference call system, a voicemail system, and
office phone system with H323 phones, etc..

Also, we need to know what hardware you were planning on using.

The load is extremely depandant upon what you are doing with it. For
example, a simple IVR/Zap-T1-channels-only system can handle 10 times the
number of consecutive calls of a SIPZap conference call system(at least in
my experience).

Let us know what you plan on doing with it and we'll give you our best
guesses as to the capacity.

MATT---

-Original Message-
From: Gustavo García Bernardo [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2004 9:54 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [Asterisk-Users] max asterisk load


Hi,

We're evaluating asterisk, somebody has measured maximum asterisk load
(simultaneus calls, calls per seconds...)?  Are there any stimation?

Thx. Best regards.
.G

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RE: [Asterisk-Users] max asterisk load

2004-02-17 Thread Brent Franks
.G,

Come on now, give us more.

How many concurrent calls?  What's your idea of a modern PC? Processor
Speed, HardDrive space, etc?  How many voicemail users?  Nat'd SIP
clients? What's your lan setup?  Codec Translation?  Voice Compression,
Echo Cancellation..?

Before you get information, you have to give information.  People aren't
going to pull your teeth to help you.

The information required should pop out of your head into the e-mail.
Personally, I'd reccommend reading up on PBX's before making posts like
this.  Not trying to start a flame, but come on, let's be serious here.

- Brent

On Tue, 17 Feb 2004, [iso-8859-1] Gustavo García Bernardo wrote:

 
 We would like to use asterisk as a SIP phone PBX with voicemail support
 only. The hardware could be a typical modern PC.
 
 Thank you very much.
 
 .G
 
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 Enviado el: martes, 17 de febrero de 2004 16:48
 Para: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
 Asunto: RE: [Asterisk-Users] max asterisk load
 
 
 That is extremely depandant upon what you want to do. First we have to know
 what the job of the asterisk server is, will it be an inbound ACD, a SIP
 phone PBX, a T1-only IVR, a conference call system, a voicemail system, and
 office phone system with H323 phones, etc..
 
 Also, we need to know what hardware you were planning on using.
 
 The load is extremely depandant upon what you are doing with it. For
 example, a simple IVR/Zap-T1-channels-only system can handle 10 times the
 number of consecutive calls of a SIPZap conference call system(at least in
 my experience).
 
 Let us know what you plan on doing with it and we'll give you our best
 guesses as to the capacity.
 
 MATT---
 
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 From: Gustavo García Bernardo [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2004 9:54 AM
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 Subject: [Asterisk-Users] max asterisk load
 
 
 Hi,
 
 We're evaluating asterisk, somebody has measured maximum asterisk load
 (simultaneus calls, calls per seconds...)?  Are there any stimation?
 
 Thx. Best regards.
 .G
 
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RE: [Asterisk-Users] max asterisk load

2004-02-17 Thread Matthew B Marlowe
Best I can say is I've had 26 simultaneous calls.  Load was fine, server could've 
taken more I'm sure.


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Hi,

We're evaluating asterisk, somebody has measured maximum asterisk load
(simultaneus calls, calls per seconds...)?  Are there any stimation?

Thx. Best regards.
.G

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Re: [Asterisk-Users] max asterisk load

2004-02-17 Thread dfm
Hi (Hola)

As far as I know Asterisk , it depends on the hardware you are using, but
for instance we've got a test-system (pre-production) with
a PI 166Mhz / 64Mb and a ISDN Diva 2.0 ISA card (as you see not in the edge
of the technology) and we're very happy with the
performance ... though only 5 users are using it, but indeed with good
results.

I would apreciate as well as Gustavo some performance report or something
similar.

Regards

Diego

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 Hi,

 We're evaluating asterisk, somebody has measured maximum asterisk load
 (simultaneus calls, calls per seconds...)?  Are there any stimation?

 Thx. Best regards.
 .G

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