[Asterisk-Users] origination providers

2005-05-24 Thread mike castleman
hi folks,

Has anyone found a good (and, ideally, cheap -- we don't really want any
per-minute charges) origination provider which can handle a moderate
number of simultaneous incoming calls (to the same, single DID)?

Many of the providers I've tried contacting either won't call me back, 
or want me to sign an NDA just to get a rate quote, or some other 
bullshit. Most of the providers whose rates are plainly posted on their 
website have a limit of at most 4 or 6 simultaneous calls, which is not 
likely to be enough for the application I'm considering.

You can reply off-list or on-list, as you prefer.

many thanks,
mike

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RE: [Asterisk-Users] origination providers

2005-05-24 Thread Kanuri, Seshu (Company IT)
Mike,

 Many of the providers I've tried contacting either 
 won't call me back, or want me to sign an NDA just 
 to get a rate quote, or some other bullshit. 

Assuming that you will need about 12 to 24 simulataneous calls on each
DID you want to run, and you are using Ulaw to get these calls, what is
the bandwidth that the DID provider has to give you, apart from the DID
service?

Ulaw needing 64 kbps per line, needs 1.2 mbps for 20 simultaneous calls.


Assuming a Data T1 costs about $500 bucks a month and assuming that you
need/use the DID for only 8 hours a day at that rate, it costs about
$100 per month in data bandwidth alone.

Who will pay for this, If it is not Democracynow who is footing the
bill?

Seshu



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Subject: [Asterisk-Users] origination providers

hi folks,

Has anyone found a good (and, ideally, cheap -- we don't really want any
per-minute charges) origination provider which can handle a moderate
number of simultaneous incoming calls (to the same, single DID)?

Many of the providers I've tried contacting either won't call me back,
or want me to sign an NDA just to get a rate quote, or some other
bullshit. Most of the providers whose rates are plainly posted on their
website have a limit of at most 4 or 6 simultaneous calls, which is not
likely to be enough for the application I'm considering.

You can reply off-list or on-list, as you prefer.

many thanks,
mike

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Re: [Asterisk-Users] origination providers

2005-05-24 Thread mike castleman
I'm not entirely sure what you're asking. The application in question
will involve setting up asterisk in a datacenter where we already have a
fair amount of bandwidth. As far as the DID provider's portion of the
bandwidth, I assume that they would account for this in the rate they
quote us.

I'm just asking the list if they have any good experiences with 
origination providers, as my attempts to get them just to return my 
calls have not been successful.

If it's relevant, I imagine gsm or speex codec for this application, but 
haven't yet made a decision.

mike

On Tue, May 24, 2005 at 03:42:43PM -0400, Kanuri, Seshu (Company IT) wrote:
 
 Assuming that you will need about 12 to 24 simulataneous calls on each
 DID you want to run, and you are using Ulaw to get these calls, what is
 the bandwidth that the DID provider has to give you, apart from the DID
 service?
 
 Ulaw needing 64 kbps per line, needs 1.2 mbps for 20 simultaneous calls.
 
 
 Assuming a Data T1 costs about $500 bucks a month and assuming that you
 need/use the DID for only 8 hours a day at that rate, it costs about
 $100 per month in data bandwidth alone.
 
 Who will pay for this, If it is not Democracynow who is footing the
 bill?
 
 Seshu

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Re: [Asterisk-Users] origination providers

2005-05-24 Thread Michael D Schelin




I can give you all the simulataneous calls you need for $.02 / min. in
the U.S. and Canada. Please call me at 626-814-2354. Michael Schelin
Shelltel 


Kanuri, Seshu (Company IT) wrote:

  Mike,

  
  
Many of the providers I've tried contacting either 
won't call me back, or want me to sign an NDA just 
to get a rate quote, or some other bullshit. 

  
  
Assuming that you will need about 12 to 24 simulataneous calls on each
DID you want to run, and you are using Ulaw to get these calls, what is
the bandwidth that the DID provider has to give you, apart from the DID
service?

Ulaw needing 64 kbps per line, needs 1.2 mbps for 20 simultaneous calls.


Assuming a Data T1 costs about $500 bucks a month and assuming that you
need/use the DID for only 8 hours a day at that rate, it costs about
$100 per month in data bandwidth alone.

Who will pay for this, If it is not Democracynow who is footing the
bill?

Seshu



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Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2005 3:00 PM
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Subject: [Asterisk-Users] origination providers

hi folks,

Has anyone found a good (and, ideally, cheap -- we don't really want any
per-minute charges) origination provider which can handle a moderate
number of simultaneous incoming calls (to the same, single DID)?

Many of the providers I've tried contacting either won't call me back,
or want me to sign an NDA just to get a rate quote, or some other
bullshit. Most of the providers whose rates are plainly posted on their
website have a limit of at most 4 or 6 simultaneous calls, which is not
likely to be enough for the application I'm considering.

You can reply off-list or on-list, as you prefer.

many thanks,
mike

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Re: [Asterisk-Users] origination providers

2005-05-24 Thread Ed Greenberg

Hi Mike,

Understand that your supplier will be paying by the minute.

What you want is your suppliers worst nightmare. Fixed income and variable 
(increasing) costs, both to his upstream provider and also in bandwidth, 
both network and computer.


Many of us will be happy to supply you with as many simultaneous calls as 
you can handle, but we'd all want to be paid in proportion to your usage, 
or we'd be out of business.


Best,
/edg

--On Tuesday, May 24, 2005 4:10 PM -0400 mike castleman 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



I'm not entirely sure what you're asking. The application in question
will involve setting up asterisk in a datacenter where we already have a
fair amount of bandwidth. As far as the DID provider's portion of the
bandwidth, I assume that they would account for this in the rate they
quote us.

I'm just asking the list if they have any good experiences with
origination providers, as my attempts to get them just to return my
calls have not been successful.

If it's relevant, I imagine gsm or speex codec for this application, but
haven't yet made a decision.

mike

On Tue, May 24, 2005 at 03:42:43PM -0400, Kanuri, Seshu (Company IT)
wrote:


Assuming that you will need about 12 to 24 simulataneous calls on each
DID you want to run, and you are using Ulaw to get these calls, what is
the bandwidth that the DID provider has to give you, apart from the DID
service?

Ulaw needing 64 kbps per line, needs 1.2 mbps for 20 simultaneous calls.


Assuming a Data T1 costs about $500 bucks a month and assuming that you
need/use the DID for only 8 hours a day at that rate, it costs about
$100 per month in data bandwidth alone.

Who will pay for this, If it is not Democracynow who is footing the
bill?

Seshu


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Re: [Asterisk-Users] origination providers

2005-05-24 Thread Michael D Schelin
Mike - If you don't mind Los Angeles Area DID's then I can supply you 
with Fixed costs with no per minute charges on your inbound calls. If 
This is what We sell. Please call Michael Schelin at Shelltel 626-814-2354.



Ed Greenberg wrote:


Hi Mike,

Understand that your supplier will be paying by the minute.

What you want is your suppliers worst nightmare. Fixed income and 
variable (increasing) costs, both to his upstream provider and also in 
bandwidth, both network and computer.


Many of us will be happy to supply you with as many simultaneous calls 
as you can handle, but we'd all want to be paid in proportion to your 
usage, or we'd be out of business.


Best,
/edg

--On Tuesday, May 24, 2005 4:10 PM -0400 mike castleman 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



I'm not entirely sure what you're asking. The application in question
will involve setting up asterisk in a datacenter where we already have a
fair amount of bandwidth. As far as the DID provider's portion of the
bandwidth, I assume that they would account for this in the rate they
quote us.

I'm just asking the list if they have any good experiences with
origination providers, as my attempts to get them just to return my
calls have not been successful.

If it's relevant, I imagine gsm or speex codec for this application, but
haven't yet made a decision.

mike

On Tue, May 24, 2005 at 03:42:43PM -0400, Kanuri, Seshu (Company IT)
wrote:



Assuming that you will need about 12 to 24 simulataneous calls on each
DID you want to run, and you are using Ulaw to get these calls, what is
the bandwidth that the DID provider has to give you, apart from the DID
service?

Ulaw needing 64 kbps per line, needs 1.2 mbps for 20 simultaneous 
calls.



Assuming a Data T1 costs about $500 bucks a month and assuming that you
need/use the DID for only 8 hours a day at that rate, it costs about
$100 per month in data bandwidth alone.

Who will pay for this, If it is not Democracynow who is footing the
bill?

Seshu



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Re: [Asterisk-Users] origination providers

2005-05-24 Thread Michael D Schelin




Hello All, After a wonderful conversation with Mr. O'Shield he asked me
to inform the Asterisk community that we run an SS7 network with Los
Angeles Area trunks and DID's that we can supply with Fixed
costs and NO per minute charges on our inbound trunks. Calls
include caller ID. Also we can supply Co-Location, Power, and a fixed
amount of non shared Internet bandwidth. This can be used for Calling
card providers or call centers. We are tied onto the Verizon Backbone.
Please call Michael Schelin at ShellTel 626-814-2354 for more
information. 



Michael D Schelin wrote:
Mike -
If you don't mind Los Angeles Area DID's then I can supply you with
Fixed costs with no per minute charges on your inbound calls. If This
is what We sell. Please call Michael Schelin at Shelltel 626-814-2354.
  
  
  
Ed Greenberg wrote:
  
  
  Hi Mike,


Understand that your supplier will be paying by the minute.


What you want is your suppliers worst nightmare. Fixed income and
variable (increasing) costs, both to his upstream provider and also in
bandwidth, both network and computer.


Many of us will be happy to supply you with as many simultaneous calls
as you can handle, but we'd all want to be paid in proportion to your
usage, or we'd be out of business.


Best,

/edg


--On Tuesday, May 24, 2005 4:10 PM -0400 mike castleman
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


I'm not entirely sure what you're asking.
The application in question
  
will involve setting up asterisk in a datacenter where we already have
a
  
fair amount of bandwidth. As far as the DID provider's portion of the
  
bandwidth, I assume that they would account for this in the rate they
  
quote us.
  
  
I'm just asking the list if they have any good experiences with
  
origination providers, as my attempts to get them just to return my
  
calls have not been successful.
  
  
If it's relevant, I imagine gsm or speex codec for this application,
but
  
haven't yet made a decision.
  
  
mike
  
  
On Tue, May 24, 2005 at 03:42:43PM -0400, Kanuri, Seshu (Company IT)
  
wrote:
  
  
  
Assuming that you will need about 12 to 24 simulataneous calls on each

DID you want to run, and you are using Ulaw to get these calls, what is

the bandwidth that the DID provider has to give you, apart from the DID

service?


Ulaw needing 64 kbps per line, needs 1.2 mbps for 20 simultaneous
calls.



Assuming a Data T1 costs about $500 bucks a month and assuming that you

need/use the DID for only 8 hours a day at that rate, it costs about

$100 per month in data bandwidth alone.


Who will pay for this, If it is not Democracynow who is footing the

bill?


Seshu

  
  
  
--
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network / systems administrator
  
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