[Asterisk-Users] quad fxo
Folks, I'm trying to install one of the new quad fxo cards remotely. I know the existing machine was too old to have a PCI 2.2 bus, so I had my helper at the other end try a few boxes that were sitting on a shelf with the new card and a Knoppix cd. He found one that reported the card as the Tiger Jet. Good. Now, we moved the HD from the existing machine, loaded with Debian, and the card is just seen as the generic communications device, like the bus is wrong. Any pointers on this? The machine is ~500 miles away at the moment, and off the network, so most of this is done by phone. :( Thanks, Tim -- Tim Sailer Coastal Internet, Inc. Network and Systems Operations PO Box 726 http://www.buoy.comMoriches, NY 11955 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (631) 399-2910 (888) 924-3728 ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] quad fxo
On Mon, 2004-05-03 at 12:26, Tim Sailer wrote: Folks, I'm trying to install one of the new quad fxo cards remotely. I know the existing machine was too old to have a PCI 2.2 bus, so I had my helper at the other end try a few boxes that were sitting on a shelf with the new card and a Knoppix cd. He found one that reported the card as the Tiger Jet. Good. Now, we moved the HD from the existing machine, loaded with Debian, and the card is just seen as the generic communications device, like the bus is wrong. Any pointers on this? The machine is ~500 miles away at the moment, and off the network, so most of this is done by phone. :( Maybe you should start by getting your helper to recompile the kernel so it can be on the network and you can then do some real debugging of the bus. I'm guessing that the kernel you have on that drive isn't sufficiently smart enough to handle the newer hardware. Knoppix CDs seem pretty decent at running the hardware fast since they are at such a disadvantage booting and running from the CD. -- Steven Critchfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] quad fxo
The bus isn't wrong... debian is wrong. Like everything in debian... it ships with an old pci.ids (No flames intended... but still :P ) replace yours with one from: http://pciids.sourceforge.net/ And It *should* report it better... (Didn't verify) Not that any of this matters... Just load the driver and get on with it. Steven Critchfield wrote: On Mon, 2004-05-03 at 12:26, Tim Sailer wrote: Folks, I'm trying to install one of the new quad fxo cards remotely. I know the existing machine was too old to have a PCI 2.2 bus, so I had my helper at the other end try a few boxes that were sitting on a shelf with the new card and a Knoppix cd. He found one that reported the card as the Tiger Jet. Good. Now, we moved the HD from the existing machine, loaded with Debian, and the card is just seen as the generic communications device, like the bus is wrong. Any pointers on this? The machine is ~500 miles away at the moment, and off the network, so most of this is done by phone. :( Maybe you should start by getting your helper to recompile the kernel so it can be on the network and you can then do some real debugging of the bus. I'm guessing that the kernel you have on that drive isn't sufficiently smart enough to handle the newer hardware. Knoppix CDs seem pretty decent at running the hardware fast since they are at such a disadvantage booting and running from the CD. ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] quad fxo
On Mon, 2004-05-03 at 12:39, Michael Sandee wrote: The bus isn't wrong... debian is wrong. Like everything in debian... it ships with an old pci.ids (No flames intended... but still :P ) If that was all, then it would have still showed up in the PCI bus just like you mention below. It also means he is probably running the STABLE version. Debian named it stable only because they don't change it very often. If you want something as new as the other distros, you have to go with Testing, or Unstable, possibly even Experimental. Just be glad they properly mark their releases unlike others whose x.0 releases shouldn't ever be trusted in a production environment. (Not flaming either, just filling in the picture) replace yours with one from: http://pciids.sourceforge.net/ And It *should* report it better... (Didn't verify) Same should work with an upgrade in debian. Not that any of this matters... Just load the driver and get on with it. While this may be true, the kernel should probably be recompiled for best performance on the new hardware. Steven Critchfield wrote: On Mon, 2004-05-03 at 12:26, Tim Sailer wrote: Folks, I'm trying to install one of the new quad fxo cards remotely. I know the existing machine was too old to have a PCI 2.2 bus, so I had my helper at the other end try a few boxes that were sitting on a shelf with the new card and a Knoppix cd. He found one that reported the card as the Tiger Jet. Good. Now, we moved the HD from the existing machine, loaded with Debian, and the card is just seen as the generic communications device, like the bus is wrong. Any pointers on this? The machine is ~500 miles away at the moment, and off the network, so most of this is done by phone. :( Maybe you should start by getting your helper to recompile the kernel so it can be on the network and you can then do some real debugging of the bus. I'm guessing that the kernel you have on that drive isn't sufficiently smart enough to handle the newer hardware. Knoppix CDs seem pretty decent at running the hardware fast since they are at such a disadvantage booting and running from the CD. ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users -- Steven Critchfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] quad fxo
On Mon, May 03, 2004 at 07:39:06PM +0200, Michael Sandee wrote: The bus isn't wrong... debian is wrong. Like everything in debian... it ships with an old pci.ids (No flames intended... but still :P ) replace yours with one from: http://pciids.sourceforge.net/ And It *should* report it better... (Didn't verify) Not that any of this matters... Just load the driver and get on with it. Driver didn't load either. So I'm supposing that it's the bus. Hmm. MAybe that was on another machine we tried. I'll give it a whirl. Thanks, Tim -- Tim Sailer Coastal Internet, Inc. Network and Systems Operations PO Box 726 http://www.buoy.comMoriches, NY 11955 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (631) 399-2910 IAX 17003992910 ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] quad fxo
On Mon, May 03, 2004 at 03:13:56PM -0400, Tim Sailer wrote: On Mon, May 03, 2004 at 07:39:06PM +0200, Michael Sandee wrote: The bus isn't wrong... debian is wrong. Like everything in debian... it ships with an old pci.ids (No flames intended... but still :P ) replace yours with one from: http://pciids.sourceforge.net/ And It *should* report it better... (Didn't verify) Not that any of this matters... Just load the driver and get on with it. Driver didn't load either. So I'm supposing that it's the bus. Hmm. MAybe that was on another machine we tried. I'll give it a whirl. Getting the latest CVS zapatel seems to have done the trick. Now to test this live. :( Tim -- Tim Sailer Coastal Internet, Inc. Network and Systems Operations PO Box 726 http://www.buoy.comMoriches, NY 11955 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (631) 399-2910 IAX 17003992910 ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] quad fxo
On Mon, 2004-05-03 at 13:18, Michael Sandee wrote: Steven Critchfield wrote: On Mon, 2004-05-03 at 12:39, Michael Sandee wrote: It also means he is probably running the STABLE version. Debian named it stable only because they don't change it very often. If you want something as new as the other distros, you have to go with Testing, or Unstable, possibly even Experimental. Just be glad they properly mark their releases unlike others whose x.0 releases shouldn't ever be trusted in a production environment. Well... tell me what is unstable about putting a new pci chip identification database into your distro? I run debian stable on my workstation... Some things are ok to be stable... but things like this are...well not so nice. Remember stable refers to change levels, not stability of software. Think of it like this, you could have a piece of software that fell over dead every time the wind blew, but it would be considered a stable version if it didn't change very often over time. Specifically, Todays version of stable shouldn't really change unless there is a REALLY good reason. Even then, the changes are usually part of a security add-on and not part of the main stable release. Changing the PDI ID database could potentially break something else that expected that card to slightly misrepresent. All of it is erring on the side of super caution. If you want to ride the cutting edge, you can choose the other versions. The choice is how much blood are you willing to lose as you ride the cutting edge. The closer you go, the more likely a upgrade will break something you hold critical. replace yours with one from: http://pciids.sourceforge.net/ And It *should* report it better... (Didn't verify) Same should work with an upgrade in debian. I seriously advice against that... vividly remebering the NPTL debacle in unstable... and loads of other glibc problems you can read about in the bugtracker. I haven't seen any NPTL stuff in debian. My laptop is fairly regularly synced with unstable, and the same goes for my home machine. My laptop is very stable while my home machine, well I'm still sorting out a hardware problem that makes it crash(hard lock, no console messages) with heavy network or disk activity. While we are at the subject anyway I can put some on-topic info here aswell. Recent benchmarks with 6 QuadBRI's on a Pentium-4 2.8Ghz resulted in a almost 100% improvement in load under Linux 2.6(.4) over Linux 2.4(.25). This ofcourse resulted in less (no) quirks in the sound under 2.6 than under 2.4. The loadtest was done looping the BRI's to each other and in such way that we used all 24 BRI's (2 channels) resulting in 48 active channels. http://voidptr.astmaster.org/loadtest1.jpg http://voidptr.astmaster.org/loadtest2.jpg The audio quality was easily monitored in contrary to often proposed test suites... Two phones at each end... Now when will they be able to work in the US, and what is the pricing for the cards? Truly impressed. -- Steven Critchfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
