Re: [Asterisk-Users] spa-3000 review?

2004-07-18 Thread Dameon D. Welch-Abernathy
Wolfgang S. Rupprecht wrote:
Interesting.  I'm at -current +/- a day and do see a
NAK/retry-with-md5 exchange when I do a sip debug.  The md5
authentication is also NAK-ed.
Well you got farther than I got when I was having problems. :)
My fear was that it was expecting the calling user to use their own
username in the validation instead of asterisk using the shared secret
with a shared user-id.
Asterisk should use whatever credentials you define as HTTP 
Username/Password in the SPA-3000 configuration.

-- PhoneBoy
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] spa-3000 review?

2004-07-17 Thread Dameon D. Welch-Abernathy
Wolfgang S. Rupprecht wrote:
Have you gotten asterisk to work for dial-out to the PSTN when using a
md5 authentication? 
What I discovered via tcpdump was that the Asterisk box wasn't 
responding to the authentication request for whatever reason. I couldn't 
get it to work until I upgraded to the latest CVS release. Once I did 
that, I could do it with authentication.

-- PhoneBoy
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] spa-3000 review?

2004-07-17 Thread Wolfgang S. Rupprecht

(Dameon D. Welch-Abernathy) writes:
 Wolfgang S. Rupprecht wrote:
  Have you gotten asterisk to work for dial-out to the PSTN when using a
  md5 authentication?
 
 What I discovered via tcpdump was that the Asterisk box wasn't
 responding to the authentication request for whatever reason. I
 couldn't get it to work until I upgraded to the latest CVS
 release. Once I did that, I could do it with authentication.

Interesting.  I'm at -current +/- a day and do see a
NAK/retry-with-md5 exchange when I do a sip debug.  The md5
authentication is also NAK-ed.

My fear was that it was expecting the calling user to use their own
username in the validation instead of asterisk using the shared secret
with a shared user-id.

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Re: [Asterisk-Users] spa-3000 review?

2004-07-16 Thread Wolfgang S. Rupprecht

[EMAIL PROTECTED] (William Suffill) writes:
 Seems quite interesting. Any suggestions of where to order one and
 about how much?

Mine was $125 from www.voxilla.com.  I ordered it on Sunday and had it
in my hands on Tuesday.

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Re: [Asterisk-Users] spa-3000 review?

2004-07-15 Thread Dameon D. Welch-Abernathy
On Wed, 2004-07-14 at 14:33, Dameon D. Welch-Abernathy wrote:

 I experience a some echo. It can be minimized by adjusting the SPA to
 PSTN Gain and PSTN to SPA Gain values to quieter values. I believe it
 can range from -12 to 12. 12 is about twice as loud as 6, -12 is twice
 as quiet as -6.

I was incorrect here, it can be anywhere between -15 and 12.

-- PhoneBoy

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RE: [Asterisk-Users] spa-3000 review?

2004-07-15 Thread Dameon D. Welch-Abernathy
On Wed, 2004-07-14 at 16:56, Kevin Walsh wrote:

 I'll rush out and buy one for use at home as soon as they support the
 UK (BT) phone system for Caller*ID and distinctive ringing etc. (as
 the SPA-2000 does for UK phone handsets). 

The FXS port on the SPA-3000 supports that stuff, but the FXO port does
not. Sipura is looking at supporting that stuff on the FXO port in about
1-2 months, if what they said during beta was correct.

-- PhoneBoy

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Re: [Asterisk-Users] spa-3000 review?

2004-07-15 Thread Tom Neville
I've had one for a while now.  My primary goal was to be able to insert 
into into the middle of a phone.. ie, line port to the wall, phone port 
to the phone at my office.  It's seamless.  When someone calls my 
office - SIP/40 is the FXO port, the iquestdesk context dials 
SIP/30SIP/provider/CELLPHONE or whatever.  I have my * box setup so 
that when I dial _1XXX or _7XXX (our office extensions) it first tries 
to dial the call out SIP/40, if that fails I dial out to the PSTN and 
back in.  (See below for the sip.conf excerpt.)

I also recently purchased a second unit for my parents house.  They are 
complete newbies to VOIP and internet calling.  They also have a Bed 
and Breakfast, so they have the 'public' in their house all the time.  
They offer free long distance to their guests as an added bonus 
(Connect.Voicepulse.com for now, so it's not really free.. but close 
enough since not many people use it.)  So, the phone is sitting right 
out where people walk past it all the time.

My biggest concern (and I'm sure a lot of other people on this list..) 
with this is the public and 911.  I don't want to be the one to take 
the call when they couldn't get help there when they needed it and 
somebody dies because of it.  (I don't feel safe with telling them.. 
just don't use this phone for 911.  In an emergency, that's not an 
answer.)  With the SPA-3000, I was able to modify the dial plan of the 
SPA-3000 to use gw0 (local PSTN port) in the event someone dials 
*11.  This works even if the network is completely unplugged.  Since 
I have the FXO connected to a POTS line in their house, their address 
should up on the 911 center.

The other reason for this box at my parents if when they start trusting 
the VOIP/PBX we'll start routing their calls into it as an answering 
machine/forwarder for them.

Another plus side to the SPA-3000, if you pull the power cord it cross 
connects the phone line.  (I've had problems with my office setup where 
* unfortunately did exactly what I told it to do.  :)  If you pull the 
power, it cross connects and the local phone is on the POTS line and 
completely removes * from the path.

I did have a problem originally with caller ID not making it into the 
box.  After talking with them (VERY HELPFUL!) and a firmware upgrade 
that went away.  I had another problem with it not accepting calls.  
When I posted in the BETA forum, they requested logs.  After a short 
exchange, they found the problem and I had a work around.  The first 
unit I bought was a BETA unit, the second was a production unit.  The 
Beta unit is on 2.0.8 and the production unit is on 2.0.9.  However, 
I've not seen the 2.0.9 firmware up for download yet.

The only remaining issue that I have is it doesn't seem to want to 
receive caller id if it's not 10 digits, this is unrelated to the above 
caller id problem.  Our phone system (Interactive Intelligence CIC) 
sends caller id out of the extension which is 4 digits.  The SPA-3000 
seems to miss that?  Haven't really dug that far into fixing this one, 
it's not a major problem for me since I've got a phone client most of 
the time.  Other then that, I've not had any problems with caller id 
making it through.

So far, I'm VERY happy with it and the support folks that I interacted 
with.  IN addition.. I've got a couple of SPA-2000s right now and was 
already familiar with the interface and the box seems to be about the 
cheapest I've seen.. so, I'd give it a big thumbs up.

; FXS port - phone at my desk.
[30]
type=friend
host=dynamic
context=iquestout
secret=NOPE
reinvite=no
canreinvite=no
qualify=300
callerid=IQuest Office FXS 30
nat=1
accountcode=5050
; FXO port - Line from our office PBX.
[40]
type=friend
host=dynamic
port=5061
context=iquestdesk
secret=NOPE
reinvite=no
canreinvite=no
qualify=300
;callerid=IQuest Office FXO 40
nat=1
accountcode=5050

On Jul 14, 2004, at 11:43 AM, Rich Adamson wrote:
Since the 3000 has been out for a little while, has anyone done a
review of the product? (couldn't find anything on google for wiki).
Can the fxo and fxs ports be used as two independent channels?
Is it really read for prime time?
Etc.
Rich
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] spa-3000 review?

2004-07-15 Thread Wolfgang S. Rupprecht

[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Tom Neville) writes:
 ; FXO port - Line from our office PBX.
 [40]
...
 secret=NOPE

Have you gotten asterisk to work for dial-out to the PSTN when using a
md5 authentication?  I can only dial out when I tell the SPA-3000 to
use no authentication.  Eg:

admin-PSTN Line-VoIP Caller Auth Method-None

Changing it to the following doesn't work (adapting the example to
use your values from above):

VoIP Caller Auth Method: HTTP Digest(their name for MD5 digest)
...
VoIP User 1 Auth ID: 40
VoIP User 1 Password: NOPE

Turning on sysloging on the sipura wasn't informative at all.  (All I
got was a bunch of lines like this:

Jul 14 16:42:11 hsephone [1:5061]64.142.50.224:5060 
Jul 14 16:42:11 hsephone [1:5061]64.142.50.224:5060 
Jul 14 16:42:11 hsephone  
Jul 14 16:42:11 hsephone  
Jul 14 16:42:11 hsephone [1:5061]-64.142.50.224:5060 
Jul 14 16:42:11 hsephone [1:5061]-64.142.50.224:5060 

Etherdump also showed quite a few invalid syslog lines coming from the
sipura.  Mostly they were missing the local0.debug.  Some went to
local2.

-wolfgang
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] spa-3000 review?

2004-07-15 Thread William Suffill
Seems quite interesting. Any suggestions of where to order one and
about how much?

On 15 Jul 2004 16:54:03 -0700, Wolfgang S. Rupprecht
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Tom Neville) writes:
  ; FXO port - Line from our office PBX.
  [40]
 ...
  secret=NOPE
 
 Have you gotten asterisk to work for dial-out to the PSTN when using a
 md5 authentication?  I can only dial out when I tell the SPA-3000 to
 use no authentication.  Eg:
 
 admin-PSTN Line-VoIP Caller Auth Method-None
 
 Changing it to the following doesn't work (adapting the example to
 use your values from above):
 
 VoIP Caller Auth Method: HTTP Digest(their name for MD5 digest)
 ...
 VoIP User 1 Auth ID: 40
 VoIP User 1 Password: NOPE
 
 Turning on sysloging on the sipura wasn't informative at all.  (All I
 got was a bunch of lines like this:
 
 Jul 14 16:42:11 hsephone [1:5061]64.142.50.224:5060
 Jul 14 16:42:11 hsephone [1:5061]64.142.50.224:5060
 Jul 14 16:42:11 hsephone
 Jul 14 16:42:11 hsephone
 Jul 14 16:42:11 hsephone [1:5061]-64.142.50.224:5060
 Jul 14 16:42:11 hsephone [1:5061]-64.142.50.224:5060
 
 Etherdump also showed quite a few invalid syslog lines coming from the
 sipura.  Mostly they were missing the local0.debug.  Some went to
 local2.
 
 
 
 -wolfgang
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[Asterisk-Users] spa-3000 review?

2004-07-14 Thread Rich Adamson

Since the 3000 has been out for a little while, has anyone done a
review of the product? (couldn't find anything on google for wiki).

Can the fxo and fxs ports be used as two independent channels?
Is it really read for prime time?
Etc.

Rich


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Re: [Asterisk-Users] spa-3000 review?

2004-07-14 Thread Wolfgang S. Rupprecht

[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Rich Adamson) writes:
 Since the 3000 has been out for a little while, has anyone done a
 review of the product? (couldn't find anything on google for wiki).
 
 Can the fxo and fxs ports be used as two independent channels?
 Is it really read for prime time?
 Etc.

I got it yesterday afternoon.  It is a very cute unit that is
surprisingly small.  (When I saw the size of the package I was at
first afraid they'd mistakenly only sent me a power supply!)

The fxo and fxs are indeed separate and show up as two peers and
users.

bonnet*CLI sip show peers
Name/usernameHostDyn Nat ACL Mask Port Status
9757/9757192.83.197.10D  255.255.255.255  5061 OK (29 ms)
6003/6003192.83.197.10D  255.255.255.255  5060 OK (22 ms)
bonnet*CLI sip show users
Username Secret   Accountcode Def.Context ACL  NAT  
9757 XXX  from-untrusted- No   No   
6003 YYY  from-trusted-in No   No   

The biggest problem with the unit is that it doesn't come with the
slightest scratch of documentation.  Not even a URL to download a
preliminary manual.  Setting it up is apparently meant to be a test
that only the true followers of the Polynesian god Sip-Ura will be
able to undertake, If one is used to the Grandstream one-page
does-it-all http configuration, this baby is going to be a real shock.
It goes on for pages and pages and has multiple views where the harder
to explain features are not shown, apparently in an attempt to not
scare every last person away.

It is quite evident that Sipura put quite a bit of work into the code
and intent is clearly to provide a mini firmware-based gateway/server
that can be used standalone to do much of what we use asterisk for.
From paging through the configs it is clear it can do PSTN-VOIP,
VOIP-PSTN, VOIP-analog-phone, analog-phone-VOIP, analog-phone-PSTN
and PSTN-analog-phone routing, all under the control of touch-tone
passwords and/or md5 passwords or RSA certificates.  This is all
without involving any outside SIP server.  

I can see that it is going to be a while before I expose this to an
outside IP address lest some kiddie that understands the passwords
better than I do notices that he can make free PSTN phone calls
because I missed filling in filling in one of the dozen or so
passwords.

Sorry, no detailed HOW-TO's yet.  This thing can obviously be made to
do what I want of it, but it will be a while figuring it all out.
This thing really needs a wiki devoted to it. ;-)

-wolfgang
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] spa-3000 review?

2004-07-14 Thread Dameon D. Welch-Abernathy
On Wed, 2004-07-14 at 09:43, Rich Adamson wrote:
 Since the 3000 has been out for a little while, has anyone done a
 review of the product? (couldn't find anything on google for wiki).

There's a review of the SPA-3000 on Voxilla. I know of a number of
people using the SPA-3000 with Asterisk, as do I. 

-- PhoneBoy

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Re: [Asterisk-Users] spa-3000 review?

2004-07-14 Thread Dameon D. Welch-Abernathy
On Wed, 2004-07-14 at 14:18, Mike Benoit wrote:
 Dameon and Wolfgang, 
 
   Have either of you experienced echo when making a call from the FXS
 port to the FXO port on the SPA-3000?

I experience a some echo. It can be minimized by adjusting the SPA to
PSTN Gain and PSTN to SPA Gain values to quieter values. I believe it
can range from -12 to 12. 12 is about twice as loud as 6, -12 is twice
as quiet as -6.

-- PhoneBoy

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Re: [Asterisk-Users] spa-3000 review?

2004-07-14 Thread Mike Benoit
Dameon and Wolfgang, 

Have either of you experienced echo when making a call from the FXS
port to the FXO port on the SPA-3000?

Thanks

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RE: [Asterisk-Users] spa-3000 review?

2004-07-14 Thread Kevin Walsh
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Rich Adamson) writes:
  Since the 3000 has been out for a little while, has anyone done a
  review of the product? (couldn't find anything on google for wiki).
  
  Can the fxo and fxs ports be used as two independent channels?
  Is it really read for prime time?
  Etc.
 
 I got it yesterday afternoon.  It is a very cute unit that is
 surprisingly small.  (When I saw the size of the package I was at
 first afraid they'd mistakenly only sent me a power supply!)
 
 The fxo and fxs are indeed separate and show up as two peers and
 users.
 
That's good to know.

I'll rush out and buy one for use at home as soon as they support the
UK (BT) phone system for Caller*ID and distinctive ringing etc. (as
the SPA-2000 does for UK phone handsets).  My X101P will then be used
only to provide timing info etc.

As the SPA-3000 appears to contain hardware echo cancellation, I think
it'd make a worthy successor to the X101P.  The SPA-3000 costs around
the same as a X101P (from Digium), and you get a FXS port for free.

If I get one and it has the same quality and reliability as the
SPA-2000 then I'll have no hesitation in recommending it to anyone who
asks - and those who don't. :-)

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Re: [Asterisk-Users] spa-3000 review?

2004-07-14 Thread James H. Thompson
 Sorry, no detailed HOW-TO's yet.  This thing can obviously be made to
 do what I want of it, but it will be a while figuring it all out.
 This thing really needs a wiki devoted to it. ;-)

Feel free to add as many pages on this topic as you wish to the wiki.

Jim
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] spa-3000 review?

2004-07-14 Thread Wolfgang S. Rupprecht

[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Mike Benoit) writes:
   Have either of you experienced echo when making a call from the FXS
 port to the FXO port on the SPA-3000?

There is some echo on LD PSTN calls when the two ends mistakenly talk
over each other.  I believe they have some VOX that attempts to
enforce a ping-pong talk path (eg. the amps in one direction are
always set for a gain of 0 while the other direction is a 1.0).

Now the first thing that I noticed in making a PSTN call is that the
remote side is very hard to hear.  The gain between the
Sipura-3000/PSTN and a Grandstream BT-100 is much less than between
two BT-100's.  I'm going to have to bump the gain up a bit in at least
the PSTN-VOIP direction.  Perhaps I need to do the VOIP-PSTN
direction too.  This is going to make echo even worse.

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