Re: [asterisk-users] 'restart when convenient'

2014-05-29 Thread Jairo
Hi Matthew,

Em 28/05/2014 15:09, "Matthew Jordan"  escreveu:

> * now - tell all CDRs to go submit themselves. Tell all channels to

Where CDR is quoted is it also valid for CEL?

Tks.
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Re: [asterisk-users] 'restart when convenient'

2014-05-28 Thread Sander Smeenk
Quoting Matthew Jordan (mjor...@digium.com):

> The various 'stop/restart' flavours and what they mean:

Thanks for this.

> * convenient - wait until all channels have hung up. If new channels
> are made, keep waiting. Once all channels have hung up, and no new
> channels are made, sneak in and ask all of the modules shut down and
> to clean up after themselves - including waiting for all CDRs to get
> written.

This is what i have cronned atm. I found Asterisk with 5 days uptime.

The behaviour i saw was issuing another 'core restart when convenient'
resulting in the 'Ignoring asterisk restart request, already in
progress.'-message, but issuing 'core restart now' did have effect,
though, as you stated, after a short delay of about 15 seconds.

I have some pointers on where to look next. It was totally unclear to me
that modules 'get asked to shut down' and might not feel like doing so
at particular moments. I figured it was all about active channels.

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Re: [asterisk-users] 'restart when convenient'

2014-05-28 Thread Matthew Jordan
On Wed, May 28, 2014 at 1:08 PM, Matthew Jordan  wrote:
> On Wed, May 28, 2014 at 12:47 PM, Doug Lytle  wrote:
 Perhaps i should join the -dev list to find out what 'convenient'
 actually means for the process...
>>
>> The dev list is for discussions of coding Asterisk, this would be considered 
>> a user's question.  Many of the devs are subscribed to this list as well.
>>
>
> The various 'stop/restart' flavours and what they mean:
>



> * convenient - wait until all channels have hung up. If no channels
> are made, keep waiting. Once all channels have hung up, and no new
> channels are made, sneak in and ask all of the modules shut down and
> to clean up after themselves - including waiting for all CDRs to get
> written.



Apologies, that should read "If new channels are made, keep waiting"



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Re: [asterisk-users] 'restart when convenient'

2014-05-28 Thread Matthew Jordan
On Wed, May 28, 2014 at 12:47 PM, Doug Lytle  wrote:
>>> Perhaps i should join the -dev list to find out what 'convenient'
>>> actually means for the process...
>
> The dev list is for discussions of coding Asterisk, this would be considered 
> a user's question.  Many of the devs are subscribed to this list as well.
>

The various 'stop/restart' flavours and what they mean:

* now - tell all CDRs to go submit themselves. Tell all channels to
hang up, and wait up to 15 seconds for all channels to go away. Don't
allow new channels to be made. After 15 seconds, shut down anyway.
Clean up of resources in modules is "best effort" - don't wait for
anything to get written or otherwise dispose of itself.
* gracefully - tell all CDRs to go submit themselves. Wait until all
channels have hung up, but don't hang them up. Don't allow new
channels to be made. Once all channels have hung up, ask all of the
modules to clean up after themselves - including waiting for CDRs to
get written.
* convenient - wait until all channels have hung up. If no channels
are made, keep waiting. Once all channels have hung up, and no new
channels are made, sneak in and ask all of the modules shut down and
to clean up after themselves - including waiting for all CDRs to get
written.

Note that while one shutdown command is executing, another cannot be
started. Thus, if you issue a 'core stop gracefully' and decide later
to escalate it to 'core stop now', by default, Asterisk will refuse
the 'core stop now' command. You can, however, stop the 'core stop
gracefully' by issuing 'core abort shutdown', which will cause
Asterisk to stop the existing shutdown attempt and return to normal
processing. You can then issue another shutdown command at your
leisure.

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Re: [asterisk-users] 'restart when convenient'

2014-05-28 Thread Sander Smeenk
Quoting Paddy Grice (pa...@wizaner.com):

> > Some how Asterisk thinks it is not convenient. I want to find out why.
> Maybe nothing but I had a similar problem with "... when convenient" -
> seem to remember it was a problem writing a cdr using
> cdr_adaptive_odbc - a database fault. Asterisk appeared idle but
> wouldn't close as I guess it thought something was still active. 

Ok. Good tip. We do use CDR in MySQL.
Will check this out if it happens again!

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Re: [asterisk-users] 'restart when convenient'

2014-05-28 Thread Doug Lytle
>> Perhaps i should join the -dev list to find out what 'convenient'
>> actually means for the process...

The dev list is for discussions of coding Asterisk, this would be considered a 
user's question.  Many of the devs are subscribed to this list as well.

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Re: [asterisk-users] 'restart when convenient'

2014-05-28 Thread Sander Smeenk
Quoting Kevin Larsen (kevin.lar...@pioneerballoon.com):

> > pbx1*CLI> core restart when convenient 
> > Waiting for inactivity to perform restart
> > Ignoring asterisk restart request, already in progress.
> > 
> > Some how Asterisk thinks it is not convenient. I want to find out why.
> 
> I haven't had it fail to restart, but I have been in the same
> situation and had it have a nice delay of a minute or two before it
> finally finds it convenient to restart. Haven't figured out what the
> delay is though. I am on 11.6.0.

Yes. But in this case 'core show uptime' was 5 days and somewhat hours.
Perhaps i should join the -dev list to find out what 'convenient'
actually means for the process...

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Re: [asterisk-users] 'restart when convenient'

2014-05-28 Thread Paddy Grice
From: asterisk-users-boun...@lists.digium.com
[mailto:asterisk-users-boun...@lists.digium.com] On Behalf Of Kevin Larsen
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Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] 'restart when convenient'


asterisk-users-boun...@lists.digium.com wrote on 05/28/2014 10:37:25 AM:

> pbx1*CLI> core restart when convenient 
> Waiting for inactivity to perform restart
> Ignoring asterisk restart request, already in progress.
> 
> 
> After doing 'core restart now' and hitting Enter really hard ;) Asterisk
> did restart.
> 
> 
> Some how Asterisk thinks it is not convenient. I want to find out why.
> 

I haven't had it fail to restart, but I have been in the same situation and
had it have a nice delay of a minute or two before it finally finds it
convenient to restart. Haven't figured out what the delay is though. I am on
11.6.0. 
 
Maybe nothing but I had a similar problem with "... when convenient" - seem
to remember it was a problem writing a cdr using cdr_adaptive_odbc - a
database fault. Asterisk appeared idle but wouldn't close as I guess it
thought something was still active. 
 
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Re: [asterisk-users] 'restart when convenient'

2014-05-28 Thread Kevin Larsen
asterisk-users-boun...@lists.digium.com wrote on 05/28/2014 10:37:25 AM:

> pbx1*CLI> core restart when convenient 
> Waiting for inactivity to perform restart
> Ignoring asterisk restart request, already in progress.
> 
> 
> After doing 'core restart now' and hitting Enter really hard ;) Asterisk
> did restart.
> 
> 
> Some how Asterisk thinks it is not convenient. I want to find out why.
> 

I haven't had it fail to restart, but I have been in the same situation 
and had it have a nice delay of a minute or two before it finally finds it 
convenient to restart. Haven't figured out what the delay is though. I am 
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Re: [asterisk-users] 'restart when convenient'

2014-05-28 Thread Sander Smeenk
Quoting D'Arcy J.M. Cain (da...@vex.net):

> > > OP - can you clarify what actual command you are running?
> > I use 'core restart when convenient'.
> Right.  You said "restart when convenient" in your original email.

Sorry for the confusion.
But the problem is not what command i am using, the problem is Asterisk
not restarting and it's obscure to me why it is not restarting.

pbx1*CLI> core show channels
Channel  Location State   Application(Data) 
0 active channels
0 active calls
1925 calls processed

pbx1*CLI> sccp show devices
[ no devices show 'Act'ivty ]

pbx1*CLI> sip show sessions
[ no active SIP sessions ]

Yet,

pbx1*CLI> core restart when convenient 
Waiting for inactivity to perform restart
Ignoring asterisk restart request, already in progress.


After doing 'core restart now' and hitting Enter really hard ;) Asterisk
did restart.


Some how Asterisk thinks it is not convenient. I want to find out why.

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Re: [asterisk-users] 'restart when convenient'

2014-05-28 Thread D'Arcy J.M. Cain
On Wed, 28 May 2014 12:19:10 +0200
Sander Smeenk  wrote:
> Quoting D'Arcy J.M. Cain (da...@vex.net):
> 
> > OP - can you clarify what actual command you are running?
> 
> I use 'core restart when convenient'.

Right.  You said "restart when convenient" in your original email.  I
tested the above and "when convenient" is similar to "gracefully."  The
difference is that the latter stops new calls from coming in.  The
former allows new calls to start while waiting for old calls to finish.

What does "core show channels" show while waiting for it to restart?

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Re: [asterisk-users] 'restart when convenient'

2014-05-28 Thread Sander Smeenk
Quoting D'Arcy J.M. Cain (da...@vex.net):

> OP - can you clarify what actual command you are running?

pbx1*CLI> core [?]
abortclearping reload
restart  set  show 
stop waitfullybooted  
pbx1*CLI> core restart [?]
gracefully  now when
pbx1*CLI> core restart when [?]
pbx1*CLI> core restart when convenient 


I use 'core restart when convenient'.
This is Asterisk 11.7.0~dfsg-1ubuntu1.


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Re: [asterisk-users] 'restart when convenient'

2014-05-28 Thread D'Arcy J.M. Cain
On Wed, 28 May 2014 12:01:44 +0200
Sander Smeenk  wrote:
> Quoting jonathan white (j...@uvacity.com):
> 
> > I'm doing a scripted restart by using the asterisk command line to
> > tell me how many active calls are current. If 0 then restart.
> 
> For this you use 'core show calls'?  If 0, do you 'core restart now'
> or do you kill and restart Asterisk in any other way?

I run 11.7 and use this: asterisk -x 'core stop gracefully'

That waits until all phones are on hook before stopping.  No need to
run tests that would be subject to race conditions.

However, I don't believe that any of this answers the OP's question.
He says that he is running "restart when convenient" but I don't
believe there is any such command and he probably means what I said
above.  perhaps he can clarify but I think that his question is, "Why
does it think that there are calls in progress when there are not."

OP - can you clarify what actual command you are running?

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Re: [asterisk-users] 'restart when convenient'

2014-05-28 Thread Sander Smeenk
Quoting jonathan white (j...@uvacity.com):

> I'm doing a scripted restart by using the asterisk command line to tell me
> how many active calls are current. If 0 then restart.

For this you use 'core show calls'?  If 0, do you 'core restart now' or
do you kill and restart Asterisk in any other way?

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Re: [asterisk-users] 'restart when convenient'

2014-05-28 Thread jonathan white
I didn't know that feature existed.

I'm doing a scripted restart by using the asterisk command line to tell me
how many active calls are current. If 0 then restart.

J
On 28 May 2014 10:52, "Sander Smeenk"  wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I want to do a scripted 'restart when convenient' on a daily basis. This
> used to work, but since i've upgraded to Asterisk 11.7 it seems it's
> never convenient to restart the server.
>
> My question: how can i tell *why* it's not convenient to restart the
> server?
>
> It used to be some colleague left the receiver OffHook or something like
> that, but even when i'm fairly certain there's no activity on my pbx,
> all receivers are OnHook, Asterisk won't restart.
>
> How can i debug why Asterisk thinks it isn't convenient to restart?
>
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[asterisk-users] 'restart when convenient'

2014-05-28 Thread Sander Smeenk
Hi,

I want to do a scripted 'restart when convenient' on a daily basis. This
used to work, but since i've upgraded to Asterisk 11.7 it seems it's
never convenient to restart the server.

My question: how can i tell *why* it's not convenient to restart the
server?

It used to be some colleague left the receiver OffHook or something like
that, but even when i'm fairly certain there's no activity on my pbx,
all receivers are OnHook, Asterisk won't restart.

How can i debug why Asterisk thinks it isn't convenient to restart?

Thanks!
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Re: [asterisk-users] Restart when convenient

2007-11-04 Thread Turbo Fredriksson
Quoting Doug Lytle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

> Anybody else encountered this?

I have. But i did it manually, not from a cron job...
It didn't restart for me either... I had to resort
to a full restart with the init script...
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Re: [asterisk-users] Restart when convenient

2007-11-04 Thread Eric "ManxPower" Wieling
Eric "ManxPower" Wieling wrote:
> Doug Lytle wrote:
>> Eric "ManxPower" Wieling wrote:
>>> Doug Lytle wrote:
>>>   
>>> document was called UPGRADE.txt.  You might want to look at that, in 
>>> addition to the 1.4 UPGRADE.txt, as there are many features that were 
>>>   
>>
>> The document was reviewed and the appropriate changes to the dial plan 
>> were made.
>>
>> I found no reference to the command being changed.  I does work if run 
>> manually, running on a schedule is where it seems to be a little flaky.
> 
> Sorry, I figured the command was changed to "core restart when 
> convenient", but I have discovered that it was not, in fact, changed.

See http://bugs.digium.com/view.php?id=8925 for a list of all commands 
in 1.4 that were not converted to the new 1.4 syntax.


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Re: [asterisk-users] Restart when convenient

2007-11-04 Thread Eric "ManxPower" Wieling
Doug Lytle wrote:
> Eric "ManxPower" Wieling wrote:
>> Doug Lytle wrote:
>>   
>> document was called UPGRADE.txt.  You might want to look at that, in 
>> addition to the 1.4 UPGRADE.txt, as there are many features that were 
>>   
> 
> 
> The document was reviewed and the appropriate changes to the dial plan 
> were made.
> 
> I found no reference to the command being changed.  I does work if run 
> manually, running on a schedule is where it seems to be a little flaky.

Sorry, I figured the command was changed to "core restart when 
convenient", but I have discovered that it was not, in fact, changed.

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Re: [asterisk-users] Restart when convenient

2007-11-04 Thread Doug Lytle
Eric "ManxPower" Wieling wrote:
> Doug Lytle wrote:
>   
> document was called UPGRADE.txt.  You might want to look at that, in 
> addition to the 1.4 UPGRADE.txt, as there are many features that were 
>   


The document was reviewed and the appropriate changes to the dial plan 
were made.

I found no reference to the command being changed.  I does work if run 
manually, running on a schedule is where it seems to be a little flaky.

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Re: [asterisk-users] Restart when convenient

2007-11-04 Thread Eric "ManxPower" Wieling
Doug Lytle wrote:
> I've moved 1 of our facilities over from 1.2 to 1.4 two weeks back.  So 
> far, the only issue that I've encounted is.
> 
> I have a scheduled CRON job that runs at 3am every Sunday, that issues a:
> 
> asterisk -rx 'restart when convenient'
> 
> The first Sunday that it ran, Asterisk never restarted.  The CRON logs 
> show that it issued the command successfully.  This Sunday, it ran but 
> never started back up.
> 
> Anybody else encountered this?

MANY CLI commands changed from 1.2 to 1.4.  They should be all 
documented in the 1.4 upgrade and changes documents.  In 1.2 the upgrade 
document was called UPGRADE.txt.  You might want to look at that, in 
addition to the 1.4 UPGRADE.txt, as there are many features that were 
deprecated in 1.2 that were remove din 1.4

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[asterisk-users] Restart when convenient

2007-11-04 Thread Doug Lytle
I've moved 1 of our facilities over from 1.2 to 1.4 two weeks back.  So 
far, the only issue that I've encounted is.

I have a scheduled CRON job that runs at 3am every Sunday, that issues a:

asterisk -rx 'restart when convenient'

The first Sunday that it ran, Asterisk never restarted.  The CRON logs 
show that it issued the command successfully.  This Sunday, it ran but 
never started back up.

Anybody else encountered this?


Doug


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