[asterisk-users] *OT* DLI Ethernet Power Controller $289 (I paid $200 for a two port webswitch)

2008-06-15 Thread Steve Totaro
http://www.surpluscomputers.com/store/main.aspx?p=ItemDetailitem=TOL10273

I post these items from time to time to the users list because I feel
they are useful to general Asterisk users.  I have no affiliation with
this company and do not profit in anyway besides helping others that
may be helped.

Again, if more people object to these occasional posts, I will refrain
from posting.

Anyways, I have equipment at a CoLo that I could not justify putting
in KVMoIP and really only need a reboot if machine is locked-up.  I
found a product called a Webswitch that can only control two outlets
and that ran ~$200.  This is a much better deal and is rackmount and
seems much more suited to a nice clean data center with higher
capacity.

I just purchased one to replace the webswitch (going to be used for
home use) because I have many more than two devices at my colo now.

Thanks,
Steve Totaro

General:
- Controls up to 16 Devices Remotely via Ethernet
- 16 Switched Outlets, Plus 2 Unswitched
- Built-in Web Server For Remote Access
- Redundant Power Supply for 24x7 Reliability
- Slim 2U Enclosure

Features:
- Control, routers, servers, cell sites, ATM machines, kiosks,
industrial process equipment, HVAC -- any 120V device.
- An internal web server gives you control from anywhere in the world.
- Front panel switches allow manual override and immediate control.
- Switch 16 devices on 8 separate circuits directly from the web or a
modem. Power two related devices (such as a computer and monitor) from
each switch.
- Two additional outlets feed unswitched power to always-on devices.
- Two separate power cords on A/B circuits provide a total of 30 Amps
(over 3600 watts!) of power in a slim 2-U case.
- Redundant power supplies keep the built-in web server running, even
if a power circuit is lost.
- Multi-level password security system prevents unauthorized access.
- User-defined plug labels and web hyperlinks connect multiple units.
- A detailed event log with battery backup and an internal real-time
clock monitor usage and enhance reliability.
- 110V and 220V models are in stock. 48V and dry-contact models are
custom built to your specifications..
- Rest assured with field proven reliability. These controllers are
used worldwide in data centers, industrial, and telecom applications.

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Re: [asterisk-users] *OT* DLI Ethernet Power Controller $289 (I paid $200 for a two port webswitch)

2008-06-15 Thread Mark Hamilton
This sounds good. Except I'm a little confused. Is this a reboot bar which
uses Ethernet to do the reboots? Like a reboot bar, except in a PoE
lifestyle?

-Original Message-
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Steve Totaro
Sent: June 15, 2008 11:36 AM
To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion
Subject: [asterisk-users] *OT* DLI Ethernet Power Controller $289 (I paid
$200 for a two port webswitch)

http://www.surpluscomputers.com/store/main.aspx?p=ItemDetailitem=TOL10273

I post these items from time to time to the users list because I feel
they are useful to general Asterisk users.  I have no affiliation with
this company and do not profit in anyway besides helping others that
may be helped.

Again, if more people object to these occasional posts, I will refrain
from posting.

Anyways, I have equipment at a CoLo that I could not justify putting
in KVMoIP and really only need a reboot if machine is locked-up.  I
found a product called a Webswitch that can only control two outlets
and that ran ~$200.  This is a much better deal and is rackmount and
seems much more suited to a nice clean data center with higher
capacity.

I just purchased one to replace the webswitch (going to be used for
home use) because I have many more than two devices at my colo now.

Thanks,
Steve Totaro

General:
- Controls up to 16 Devices Remotely via Ethernet
- 16 Switched Outlets, Plus 2 Unswitched
- Built-in Web Server For Remote Access
- Redundant Power Supply for 24x7 Reliability
- Slim 2U Enclosure

Features:
- Control, routers, servers, cell sites, ATM machines, kiosks,
industrial process equipment, HVAC -- any 120V device.
- An internal web server gives you control from anywhere in the world.
- Front panel switches allow manual override and immediate control.
- Switch 16 devices on 8 separate circuits directly from the web or a
modem. Power two related devices (such as a computer and monitor) from
each switch.
- Two additional outlets feed unswitched power to always-on devices.
- Two separate power cords on A/B circuits provide a total of 30 Amps
(over 3600 watts!) of power in a slim 2-U case.
- Redundant power supplies keep the built-in web server running, even
if a power circuit is lost.
- Multi-level password security system prevents unauthorized access.
- User-defined plug labels and web hyperlinks connect multiple units.
- A detailed event log with battery backup and an internal real-time
clock monitor usage and enhance reliability.
- 110V and 220V models are in stock. 48V and dry-contact models are
custom built to your specifications..
- Rest assured with field proven reliability. These controllers are
used worldwide in data centers, industrial, and telecom applications.

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Re: [asterisk-users] *OT* DLI Ethernet Power Controller $289 (I paid$200 for a two port webswitch)

2008-06-15 Thread Dean Collins
Hey steve - great post so highly welcome. I think people need to lighten
up about commercial marketing to the asterisk users list as hardly
anyone subscribes to biz list, as long as it's a single post then that's
cool.


That to one side some questions.


Do you know if this unit has any power metering capability? I'd really
like to start measuring which of my servers are using the most power etc
and not sure from this description if this is possible.




Cheers,

Dean


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Steve
Totaro
Sent: Sunday, 15 June 2008 11:36 AM
To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion
Subject: [asterisk-users] *OT* DLI Ethernet Power Controller $289 (I
paid$200 for a two port webswitch)

http://www.surpluscomputers.com/store/main.aspx?p=ItemDetailitem=TOL102
73

I post these items from time to time to the users list because I feel
they are useful to general Asterisk users.  I have no affiliation with
this company and do not profit in anyway besides helping others that
may be helped.

Again, if more people object to these occasional posts, I will refrain
from posting.

Anyways, I have equipment at a CoLo that I could not justify putting
in KVMoIP and really only need a reboot if machine is locked-up.  I
found a product called a Webswitch that can only control two outlets
and that ran ~$200.  This is a much better deal and is rackmount and
seems much more suited to a nice clean data center with higher
capacity.

I just purchased one to replace the webswitch (going to be used for
home use) because I have many more than two devices at my colo now.

Thanks,
Steve Totaro

General:
- Controls up to 16 Devices Remotely via Ethernet
- 16 Switched Outlets, Plus 2 Unswitched
- Built-in Web Server For Remote Access
- Redundant Power Supply for 24x7 Reliability
- Slim 2U Enclosure

Features:
- Control, routers, servers, cell sites, ATM machines, kiosks,
industrial process equipment, HVAC -- any 120V device.
- An internal web server gives you control from anywhere in the world.
- Front panel switches allow manual override and immediate control.
- Switch 16 devices on 8 separate circuits directly from the web or a
modem. Power two related devices (such as a computer and monitor) from
each switch.
- Two additional outlets feed unswitched power to always-on devices.
- Two separate power cords on A/B circuits provide a total of 30 Amps
(over 3600 watts!) of power in a slim 2-U case.
- Redundant power supplies keep the built-in web server running, even
if a power circuit is lost.
- Multi-level password security system prevents unauthorized access.
- User-defined plug labels and web hyperlinks connect multiple units.
- A detailed event log with battery backup and an internal real-time
clock monitor usage and enhance reliability.
- 110V and 220V models are in stock. 48V and dry-contact models are
custom built to your specifications..
- Rest assured with field proven reliability. These controllers are
used worldwide in data centers, industrial, and telecom applications.

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Re: [asterisk-users] *OT* DLI Ethernet Power Controller $289 (I paid$200 for a two port webswitch)

2008-06-15 Thread Steve Totaro
I don't believe so.  I just placed my order.  It sounds similar to the
WebSwitch I currently use in that you manually reboot/power cycle
outlets and setup automatic reboots activated by no reply to pings.

I know there are some websites that can show you which servers
generally eat more power.  I get a general idea by the heat they put
off but I know that is obviously not going to give me numbers.  A
multimeter at the outlet would certainly give you more accurate
figures.

Looking at this unit, it appears you really only get control of 8
separate circuits but that is still much better than the WebSwitch I
have (2 outlets).

It also has redundant power plugs, dialup capability, RS232
connections, and powerup in a predefined sequence, all very nice
additional features over what I had.

Thanks,
Steve Totaro

On Sun, Jun 15, 2008 at 12:10 PM, Dean Collins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

snipped

 Do you know if this unit has any power metering capability? I'd really
 like to start measuring which of my servers are using the most power etc
 and not sure from this description if this is possible.




 Cheers,

 Dean


 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Steve
 Totaro
 Sent: Sunday, 15 June 2008 11:36 AM
 To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion
 Subject: [asterisk-users] *OT* DLI Ethernet Power Controller $289 (I
 paid$200 for a two port webswitch)

 http://www.surpluscomputers.com/store/main.aspx?p=ItemDetailitem=TOL102
 73

 I post these items from time to time to the users list because I feel
 they are useful to general Asterisk users.  I have no affiliation with
 this company and do not profit in anyway besides helping others that
 may be helped.

 Again, if more people object to these occasional posts, I will refrain
 from posting.

 Anyways, I have equipment at a CoLo that I could not justify putting
 in KVMoIP and really only need a reboot if machine is locked-up.  I
 found a product called a Webswitch that can only control two outlets
 and that ran ~$200.  This is a much better deal and is rackmount and
 seems much more suited to a nice clean data center with higher
 capacity.

 I just purchased one to replace the webswitch (going to be used for
 home use) because I have many more than two devices at my colo now.

 Thanks,
 Steve Totaro

 General:
 - Controls up to 16 Devices Remotely via Ethernet
 - 16 Switched Outlets, Plus 2 Unswitched
 - Built-in Web Server For Remote Access
 - Redundant Power Supply for 24x7 Reliability
 - Slim 2U Enclosure

 Features:
 - Control, routers, servers, cell sites, ATM machines, kiosks,
 industrial process equipment, HVAC -- any 120V device.
 - An internal web server gives you control from anywhere in the world.
 - Front panel switches allow manual override and immediate control.
 - Switch 16 devices on 8 separate circuits directly from the web or a
 modem. Power two related devices (such as a computer and monitor) from
 each switch.
 - Two additional outlets feed unswitched power to always-on devices.
 - Two separate power cords on A/B circuits provide a total of 30 Amps
 (over 3600 watts!) of power in a slim 2-U case.
 - Redundant power supplies keep the built-in web server running, even
 if a power circuit is lost.
 - Multi-level password security system prevents unauthorized access.
 - User-defined plug labels and web hyperlinks connect multiple units.
 - A detailed event log with battery backup and an internal real-time
 clock monitor usage and enhance reliability.
 - 110V and 220V models are in stock. 48V and dry-contact models are
 custom built to your specifications..
 - Rest assured with field proven reliability. These controllers are
 used worldwide in data centers, industrial, and telecom applications.


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Re: [asterisk-users] *OT* DLI Ethernet Power Controller $289 (I paid $200 for a two port webswitch)

2008-06-15 Thread Steve Totaro
Ethernet or dialup it seems (as well as automated ping/no reply
programmed reboots.)  So it has a browser, modem, outlets, ethernet
ports, RS232.

It seems like you could use this unit to access a box that only has an
RS232 connection remotely, rather than connecting it to a server in
the same rack, so it must have hyperterm functionality too...

Again, I just ordered so I cannot say how good this unit actually is
or comment on anything beyond the claimed functionality.

Thanks,
Steve T

On Sun, Jun 15, 2008 at 12:11 PM, Mark Hamilton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 This sounds good. Except I'm a little confused. Is this a reboot bar which
 uses Ethernet to do the reboots? Like a reboot bar, except in a PoE
 lifestyle?

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Steve Totaro
 Sent: June 15, 2008 11:36 AM
 To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion
 Subject: [asterisk-users] *OT* DLI Ethernet Power Controller $289 (I paid
 $200 for a two port webswitch)

 http://www.surpluscomputers.com/store/main.aspx?p=ItemDetailitem=TOL10273

 I post these items from time to time to the users list because I feel
 they are useful to general Asterisk users.  I have no affiliation with
 this company and do not profit in anyway besides helping others that
 may be helped.

 Again, if more people object to these occasional posts, I will refrain
 from posting.

 Anyways, I have equipment at a CoLo that I could not justify putting
 in KVMoIP and really only need a reboot if machine is locked-up.  I
 found a product called a Webswitch that can only control two outlets
 and that ran ~$200.  This is a much better deal and is rackmount and
 seems much more suited to a nice clean data center with higher
 capacity.

 I just purchased one to replace the webswitch (going to be used for
 home use) because I have many more than two devices at my colo now.

 Thanks,
 Steve Totaro

 General:
 - Controls up to 16 Devices Remotely via Ethernet
 - 16 Switched Outlets, Plus 2 Unswitched
 - Built-in Web Server For Remote Access
 - Redundant Power Supply for 24x7 Reliability
 - Slim 2U Enclosure

 Features:
 - Control, routers, servers, cell sites, ATM machines, kiosks,
 industrial process equipment, HVAC -- any 120V device.
 - An internal web server gives you control from anywhere in the world.
 - Front panel switches allow manual override and immediate control.
 - Switch 16 devices on 8 separate circuits directly from the web or a
 modem. Power two related devices (such as a computer and monitor) from
 each switch.
 - Two additional outlets feed unswitched power to always-on devices.
 - Two separate power cords on A/B circuits provide a total of 30 Amps
 (over 3600 watts!) of power in a slim 2-U case.
 - Redundant power supplies keep the built-in web server running, even
 if a power circuit is lost.
 - Multi-level password security system prevents unauthorized access.
 - User-defined plug labels and web hyperlinks connect multiple units.
 - A detailed event log with battery backup and an internal real-time
 clock monitor usage and enhance reliability.
 - 110V and 220V models are in stock. 48V and dry-contact models are
 custom built to your specifications..
 - Rest assured with field proven reliability. These controllers are
 used worldwide in data centers, industrial, and telecom applications.

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Re: [asterisk-users] *OT* DLI Ethernet Power Controller $289 (I paid $200 for a two port webswitch)

2008-06-15 Thread Mark Hamilton
Ah, that sounds about right. A PDU.
I got all confused earlier. 

So, this is just a PDU with some added bells and whistles related to
connectivity.
Thanks Matt.

-Original Message-
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Matt Watson
Sent: June 15, 2008 12:33 PM
To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion
Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] *OT* DLI Ethernet Power Controller $289 (I
paid $200 for a two port webswitch)

On June 15, 2008 12:11:13 pm Mark Hamilton wrote:
 This sounds good. Except I'm a little confused. Is this a reboot bar which
 uses Ethernet to do the reboots? Like a reboot bar, except in a PoE
 lifestyle?


Its just a PDU (power distribution unit) that has a web-interface (accessed 
via Ethernet)... it looks like it has the added bonus of having some RS232C 
ports that you can either attach a modem (to dial-into the device) or to 
connect to serial-console based equipment, like certain routers and switches

so that you can access their serial console remotely.

Essentially its the equivalent of the APC AP7902 - 
http://www.apc.com/resource/include/techspec_index.cfm?base_sku=AP7902 it
has 
a couple feature differences, but for the most part they do the same thing.

However, the cost is significantly less than than the APC model.  

I don't have any experience with either however.

All in all it looks like a decent product... i'd be interested in hearing
from 
anybody that might of been using them for a long period of time (1-2yrs+).  
I'm pretty picky about power distribution, i've seen bad power cause too
many 
problems in my computing history.

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http://www.mattgwatson.ca

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Re: [asterisk-users] *OT* DLI Ethernet Power Controller $289 (I paid$200 for a two port webswitch)

2008-06-15 Thread Matt Watson
On June 15, 2008 12:10:03 pm Dean Collins wrote:


 Do you know if this unit has any power metering capability? I'd really
 like to start measuring which of my servers are using the most power etc
 and not sure from this description if this is possible.


Just FYI - the APC model I mentioned in my last post will do load metering... 
it'll cost you about twice as much as the one Steve posted however. The sale 
price that is, couple hundred more than the regular price.


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Re: [asterisk-users] *OT* DLI Ethernet Power Controller $289 (I paid $200 for a two port webswitch)

2008-06-15 Thread Steve Totaro
If a PDU is just a power strip then this has many more bells and
whistles.  My usage is being able to control power to those outlets to
reboot or turn on/off equipment if it is hung or whatever other
reason.

Thanks,
Steve T

On Sun, Jun 15, 2008 at 12:38 PM, Mark Hamilton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Ah, that sounds about right. A PDU.
 I got all confused earlier.

 So, this is just a PDU with some added bells and whistles related to
 connectivity.
 Thanks Matt.

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Matt Watson
 Sent: June 15, 2008 12:33 PM
 To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion
 Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] *OT* DLI Ethernet Power Controller $289 (I
 paid $200 for a two port webswitch)

 On June 15, 2008 12:11:13 pm Mark Hamilton wrote:
 This sounds good. Except I'm a little confused. Is this a reboot bar which
 uses Ethernet to do the reboots? Like a reboot bar, except in a PoE
 lifestyle?


 Its just a PDU (power distribution unit) that has a web-interface (accessed
 via Ethernet)... it looks like it has the added bonus of having some RS232C
 ports that you can either attach a modem (to dial-into the device) or to
 connect to serial-console based equipment, like certain routers and switches

 so that you can access their serial console remotely.

 Essentially its the equivalent of the APC AP7902 -
 http://www.apc.com/resource/include/techspec_index.cfm?base_sku=AP7902 it
 has
 a couple feature differences, but for the most part they do the same thing.

 However, the cost is significantly less than than the APC model.

 I don't have any experience with either however.

 All in all it looks like a decent product... i'd be interested in hearing
 from
 anybody that might of been using them for a long period of time (1-2yrs+).
 I'm pretty picky about power distribution, i've seen bad power cause too
 many
 problems in my computing history.

 --
 Matt Watson
 http://www.mattgwatson.ca

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Re: [asterisk-users] *OT* DLI Ethernet Power Controller $289 (I paid $200 for a two port webswitch)

2008-06-15 Thread Andres


All in all it looks like a decent product... i'd be interested in hearing from 
anybody that might of been using them for a long period of time (1-2yrs+).  
I'm pretty picky about power distribution, i've seen bad power cause too many 
problems in my computing history.
  

We have used the APC 8 port version for abour 5 years now.  It is rock 
solid.   The connected load metering is a very nice feature as well.  
The cost is about $380.

Andres
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Re: [asterisk-users] *OT* DLI Ethernet Power Controller $289 (I paid $200 for a two port webswitch)

2008-06-15 Thread Matt Watson
On June 15, 2008 12:45:07 pm Steve Totaro wrote:
 If a PDU is just a power strip then this has many more bells and
 whistles.  My usage is being able to control power to those outlets to
 reboot or turn on/off equipment if it is hung or whatever other
 reason.

 Thanks,
 Steve T


Yep, a PDU is really just a broad term for anything that takes power input and 
distributes it to many devices - so yes a power strip/bar would be classified 
as a PDU...technically.  However I'd probably expect to get laughed at if I 
called a power bar a PDU!

There are pretty big differences between the $5 power bar you can buy at 
walmart and stuff that people typically put into server cabinets.

technically this device specifically would be a Switched PDU the switched 
part meaning it has the ability to turn on/off individual ports.  The 
interface to turning those ports on/off however is irrelavent to its device 
classification it could be a web interface like this device, a telnet/ssh 
interface, it might not even have any remote capability and just have 
physically switches for each port.

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Re: [asterisk-users] *OT* DLI Ethernet Power Controller $289 (I paid $200 for a two port webswitch)

2008-06-15 Thread Matt Watson
On June 15, 2008 01:05:40 pm Andres wrote:
 All in all it looks like a decent product... i'd be interested in hearing
  from anybody that might of been using them for a long period of time
  (1-2yrs+). I'm pretty picky about power distribution, i've seen bad power
  cause too many problems in my computing history.

 We have used the APC 8 port version for abour 5 years now.  It is rock
 solid.   The connected load metering is a very nice feature as well.
 The cost is about $380.

 Andres
 http://www.neuroredes.com



Thanks Andres,

I was actually was hoping to hear from somebody that has used the device that 
Steve orignally posted though!

I've used several other APC products and I don't think I'd need to think twice 
about buying anything else from them.

I do kind of think APC is a little like buying stuff from Sony... you pay a 
bit of a brand tax just to have the APC logo printed on it.  However I think 
that the APC logo on something means alot more than the Sony logo :)

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