[asterisk-users] [POTS/BRI] Neutral comparisons of PCI vs. box?
Hello I need to find a recent and neutral comparison of the major products available to connect an Asterisk server to the telephone network, whether ISDN (BRI) or PSTN, and through a PCI card or some external box. I'm told there are less issues (echo, stability) with external boxes compared to PCI cards. Apparently, the main brands are Digium, Sangoma, Rhino Equipment, Patton, and Audiocodes. Thank you. -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: http://www.asterisk.org/hello asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] [POTS/BRI] Neutral comparisons of PCI vs. box?
On Wed, Dec 8, 2010 at 9:06 AM, Gilles codecompl...@free.fr wrote: Hello I need to find a recent and neutral comparison of the major products available to connect an Asterisk server to the telephone network, whether ISDN (BRI) or PSTN, and through a PCI card or some external box. I'm told there are less issues (echo, stability) with external boxes compared to PCI cards. Apparently, the main brands are Digium, Sangoma, Rhino Equipment, Patton, and Audiocodes. I would disagree that there are fewer issues. I would phrase it as: * pay somebody else to do it in the form of appliance and lose most control versus do it yourself and have total control but also the chance to screw up. These are the choices you face in much of tech, such as develop software yourself that does exactly what you want versus buy somebody else's software that does some of what you want. If you want to pay somebody else to do it, there's also the middle road of pay somebody who knows how to do PCI cards to do it for you. We call those people consultants or vendors. You can try hiring the vendors directly or ask them for recommendations for vendors trusted to do a good job. -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: http://www.asterisk.org/hello asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] [POTS/BRI] Neutral comparisons of PCI vs. box?
Hello, We would be happy to offer you Asterisk VQM for voice quality assessment, however, it's Asterisk based and works with every hardware that works with Asterisk: http://www.sevana.fi/aqua-powered-asterisk-voice-quality-monitoring-solution.php - Original Message - From: Gilles codecompl...@free.fr To: asterisk-users@lists.digium.com Sent: Wednesday, December 08, 2010 5:06 PM Subject: [asterisk-users] [POTS/BRI] Neutral comparisons of PCI vs. box? Hello I need to find a recent and neutral comparison of the major products available to connect an Asterisk server to the telephone network, whether ISDN (BRI) or PSTN, and through a PCI card or some external box. I'm told there are less issues (echo, stability) with external boxes compared to PCI cards. Apparently, the main brands are Digium, Sangoma, Rhino Equipment, Patton, and Audiocodes. Thank you. -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: http://www.asterisk.org/hello asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: http://www.asterisk.org/hello asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] [POTS/BRI] Neutral comparisons of PCI vs. box?
On Wed, 8 Dec 2010 17:56:51 +0300, Sevana Oy sa...@sevana.fi wrote: We would be happy to offer you Asterisk VQM for voice quality assessment, however, it's Asterisk based and works with every hardware that works with Asterisk: http://www.sevana.fi/aqua-powered-asterisk-voice-quality-monitoring-solution.php Thanks for the link. I'll check it out. -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: http://www.asterisk.org/hello asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] [POTS/BRI] Neutral comparisons of PCI vs. box?
On Wed, 8 Dec 2010 09:33:22 -0500, David Backeberg dbackeb...@gmail.com wrote: * pay somebody else to do it in the form of appliance and lose most control versus do it yourself and have total control but also the chance to screw up. Thanks for the input. Has someone in this ng tried a PCI card and then an appliance of the same grade, and could provide some feedback? Thank you. -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: http://www.asterisk.org/hello asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] [POTS/BRI] Neutral comparisons of PCI vs. box?
Hi! Thanks for the input. Has someone in this ng tried a PCI card and then an appliance of the same grade, and could provide some feedback? Yes, and IMHO the external gateway/appliance is usually - but not always (see fax) - the better choice because you save yourself many headaches caused by all kinds of upgrades: kernel, OS/distribution, Asterisk version, card firmware, and then there's also the mainboard compatibility issue). Search this list for dahdi and zaptel and you'll see what I mean. In fact for Digium it wouldn't be a dumb move to start offering gateways. PCI cards can keep you from doing an upgrade and might even cause you to create a separate Gateway Asterisk box that you won't touch and an Application Asterisk box that only speaks SIP to the outside. Even though an external gateway is a single point of failure it can be much more easily be shared by more than one Asterisk (in the case of a PCI card you might even have to keep a spare one on the shelf). Philipp -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: http://www.asterisk.org/hello asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] [POTS/BRI] Neutral comparisons of PCI vs. box?
On Wed, Dec 8, 2010 at 10:17 AM, Gilles codecompl...@free.fr wrote: On Wed, 8 Dec 2010 09:33:22 -0500, David Backeberg dbackeb...@gmail.com wrote: * pay somebody else to do it in the form of appliance and lose most control versus do it yourself and have total control but also the chance to screw up. Thanks for the input. Has someone in this ng tried a PCI card and then an appliance of the same grade, and could provide some feedback? I've done both. It's hard to determine what 'same grade' means. I guess you could go by price? I've used Digium PCI cards. They worked well. I've used Cisco gear for terminating PRI lines. It also worked well. Both the cards and the appliances have had 'issues'. The Digium PCI cards themselves were solid, but there are lots of ways to do the configuration wrong. You have to match the line settings to the line provided by the phone company, but sometimes you figure those out by trial and error. That's essentially no different for the appliances. With asterisk there are certain bugs I've run into, but unlike with Cisco, I've been able to find the actual problem, change the code, and run the version I want, which also has the patch I want. I've gotten into an upgrade / downgrade trap with Cisco where I wanted to fix a PRI error so I upgraded. Then the upgrade generated broken callerID. I couldn't downgrade if I wanted the PRI fix, and I wanted the PRI fix more than I wanted callerID. Alas, Cisco. All known, documented issues, escalated through Cisco paid support. -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: http://www.asterisk.org/hello asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] [POTS/BRI] Neutral comparisons of PCI vs. box?
On 12/08/2010 08:56 AM, Sevana Oy wrote: We would be happy to offer you Asterisk VQM for voice quality assessment, however, it's Asterisk based and works with every hardware that works with Asterisk: http://www.sevana.fi/aqua-powered-asterisk-voice-quality-monitoring-solution.php Please respect the *non-commercial* nature of this mailing list. The poster did not ask for voice quality management solutions, they asked for a comparison of PCI interface cards and gateway boxes. Even if your response was relevant, it still doesn't belong on this list as an advertisement. If you want to offer your product to someone in response to a question they ask on this, list, please contact that person directly. -- Kevin P. Fleming Digium, Inc. | Director of Software Technologies 445 Jan Davis Drive NW - Huntsville, AL 35806 - USA skype: kpfleming | jabber: kflem...@digium.com Check us out at www.digium.com www.asterisk.org -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: http://www.asterisk.org/hello asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] [POTS/BRI] Neutral comparisons of PCI vs. box?
On Wed, 8 Dec 2010 14:46:59 -0500, David Backeberg dbackeb...@gmail.com wrote: Both the cards and the appliances have had 'issues'. Thanks guys for the input. -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: http://www.asterisk.org/hello asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
