Re: [asterisk-users] 1950's UK rotary dial phone
John Novack wrote: This fix has been around for several years, originally posted somewhere by Max Park, and many users have applied it to systems used with antique switching equipment. I would hope it will find its way into the mainstream, and not just for debian systems. PLEASE For the 3 percent of users who use pulse dial phones! Has it been posted on issues.asterisk.org? Patches don't just 'find their way' into Asterisk, they have be contributed and merged. -- Kevin P. Fleming Digium, Inc. | Director of Software Technologies 445 Jan Davis Drive NW - Huntsville, AL 35806 - USA skype: kpfleming | jabber: kpflem...@digium.com Check us out at www.digium.com www.asterisk.org ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] 1950's UK rotary dial phone
Kevin P. Fleming wrote: John Novack wrote: This fix has been around for several years, originally posted somewhere by Max Park, and many users have applied it to systems used with antique switching equipment. I would hope it will find its way into the mainstream, and not just for debian systems. PLEASE For the 3 percent of users who use pulse dial phones! Has it been posted on issues.asterisk.org? Patches don't just 'find their way' into Asterisk, they have be contributed and merged. this fix has been on the wiki for many years. Unknown if the original poster ever submitted it and it was rejected or ??? http://www.voip-info.org/wiki/view/Asterisk+zaptel+pulse+dialing How this relates to DAHDI is for someone well above my paygrade to discover and submit John Novack -- Dog is my co-pilot ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] 1950's UK rotary dial phone
It's now formerly a Mantis bug https://issues.asterisk.org/view.php?id=16339 John, can you please add to the bug. I have just deployed this patch, so it needs a bit of time. Alec Davis. -Original Message- From: asterisk-users-boun...@lists.digium.com [mailto:asterisk-users-boun...@lists.digium.com] On Behalf Of John Novack Sent: Sunday, 29 November 2009 5:24 a.m. To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] 1950's UK rotary dial phone Kevin P. Fleming wrote: John Novack wrote: This fix has been around for several years, originally posted somewhere by Max Park, and many users have applied it to systems used with antique switching equipment. I would hope it will find its way into the mainstream, and not just for debian systems. PLEASE For the 3 percent of users who use pulse dial phones! Has it been posted on issues.asterisk.org? Patches don't just 'find their way' into Asterisk, they have be contributed and merged. this fix has been on the wiki for many years. Unknown if the original poster ever submitted it and it was rejected or ??? http://www.voip-info.org/wiki/view/Asterisk+zaptel+pulse+dialing How this relates to DAHDI is for someone well above my paygrade to discover and submit John Novack -- Dog is my co-pilot ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] 1950's UK rotary dial phone
On Wed, Nov 25, 2009 at 11:05:52AM +, Mike wrote: On Wed, Nov 25, 2009 at 12:26:10PM +0200, Tzafrir Cohen wrote: On Tue, Nov 24, 2009 at 11:03:16PM +, Mike wrote: Folks, I've got one of those GPO 1950's rotary dial phones that I'm trying to get working in the UK. I've got pretty much everything working with my TDM400, the phone rings and I can receive calls but I cannot dial with the rotary dialer. I have set pulsedial=true Should not be needed. This parameter means that your Asterisk system dials with pulses rather than tones (prefixing 't' rather than 'p' to the dial string sent to DAHDI). I suppose this is not really what you're after. or whatever the exact setting is and I can dial from the phone by lifting the receiver and tapping out the number on the hook. However, using the rotary dialer does not work (works fine plugged into my phone line). I have read about the possibilty that the pulse settings may need adjusting in kernel.h in the dahdi driver but I have no idea what to set them to. I have tried tweeking them to various extents but I've not been able to bring it to life yet. Does anyone have any experience getting this to work? Does anyone know the specs for UK pulse dial? How long should the pulses be and what is the gap between them? I wonder if anybody wants to follow up on http://bugs.debian.org/546329 (formly http://bugs.debian.org/399772 ) Thanks Tzafrir, that was it. I have changed the fxs.debounce and recompiled. My rotary dialer lives again! So what will it break if I apply this patch to wctdm.c ? Any reason not to apply it? -- Tzafrir Cohen icq#16849755 jabber:tzafrir.co...@xorcom.com +972-50-7952406 mailto:tzafrir.co...@xorcom.com http://www.xorcom.com iax:gu...@local.xorcom.com/tzafrir ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] 1950's UK rotary dial phone
Tzafrir Cohen wrote: On Wed, Nov 25, 2009 at 11:05:52AM +, Mike wrote: On Wed, Nov 25, 2009 at 12:26:10PM +0200, Tzafrir Cohen wrote: On Tue, Nov 24, 2009 at 11:03:16PM +, Mike wrote: Folks, I've got one of those GPO 1950's rotary dial phones that I'm trying to get working in the UK. I've got pretty much everything working with my TDM400, the phone rings and I can receive calls but I cannot dial with the rotary dialer. I have set pulsedial=true Should not be needed. This parameter means that your Asterisk system dials with pulses rather than tones (prefixing 't' rather than 'p' to the dial string sent to DAHDI). I suppose this is not really what you're after. or whatever the exact setting is and I can dial from the phone by lifting the receiver and tapping out the number on the hook. However, using the rotary dialer does not work (works fine plugged into my phone line). I have read about the possibilty that the pulse settings may need adjusting in kernel.h in the dahdi driver but I have no idea what to set them to. I have tried tweeking them to various extents but I've not been able to bring it to life yet. Does anyone have any experience getting this to work? Does anyone know the specs for UK pulse dial? How long should the pulses be and what is the gap between them? I wonder if anybody wants to follow up on http://bugs.debian.org/546329 (formly http://bugs.debian.org/399772 ) Thanks Tzafrir, that was it. I have changed the fxs.debounce and recompiled. My rotary dialer lives again! So what will it break if I apply this patch to wctdm.c ? Any reason not to apply it? This fix has been around for several years, originally posted somewhere by Max Park, and many users have applied it to systems used with antique switching equipment. I would hope it will find its way into the mainstream, and not just for debian systems. PLEASE For the 3 percent of users who use pulse dial phones! It still doesn't make asterisk as forgiving as an exchange or PBX, way off speed dials and out of spec make break ratios will still fail, but many more will not. John Novack -- Dog is my co-pilot ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] 1950's UK rotary dial phone
On Tue, Nov 24, 2009 at 11:03:16PM +, Mike wrote: Folks, I've got one of those GPO 1950's rotary dial phones that I'm trying to get working in the UK. I've got pretty much everything working with my TDM400, the phone rings and I can receive calls but I cannot dial with the rotary dialer. I have set pulsedial=true Should not be needed. This parameter means that your Asterisk system dials with pulses rather than tones (prefixing 't' rather than 'p' to the dial string sent to DAHDI). I suppose this is not really what you're after. or whatever the exact setting is and I can dial from the phone by lifting the receiver and tapping out the number on the hook. However, using the rotary dialer does not work (works fine plugged into my phone line). I have read about the possibilty that the pulse settings may need adjusting in kernel.h in the dahdi driver but I have no idea what to set them to. I have tried tweeking them to various extents but I've not been able to bring it to life yet. Does anyone have any experience getting this to work? Does anyone know the specs for UK pulse dial? How long should the pulses be and what is the gap between them? I wonder if anybody wants to follow up on http://bugs.debian.org/546329 (formly http://bugs.debian.org/399772 ) -- Tzafrir Cohen icq#16849755 jabber:tzafrir.co...@xorcom.com +972-50-7952406 mailto:tzafrir.co...@xorcom.com http://www.xorcom.com iax:gu...@local.xorcom.com/tzafrir ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] 1950's UK rotary dial phone
On Wed, Nov 25, 2009 at 12:26:10PM +0200, Tzafrir Cohen wrote: On Tue, Nov 24, 2009 at 11:03:16PM +, Mike wrote: Folks, I've got one of those GPO 1950's rotary dial phones that I'm trying to get working in the UK. I've got pretty much everything working with my TDM400, the phone rings and I can receive calls but I cannot dial with the rotary dialer. I have set pulsedial=true Should not be needed. This parameter means that your Asterisk system dials with pulses rather than tones (prefixing 't' rather than 'p' to the dial string sent to DAHDI). I suppose this is not really what you're after. or whatever the exact setting is and I can dial from the phone by lifting the receiver and tapping out the number on the hook. However, using the rotary dialer does not work (works fine plugged into my phone line). I have read about the possibilty that the pulse settings may need adjusting in kernel.h in the dahdi driver but I have no idea what to set them to. I have tried tweeking them to various extents but I've not been able to bring it to life yet. Does anyone have any experience getting this to work? Does anyone know the specs for UK pulse dial? How long should the pulses be and what is the gap between them? I wonder if anybody wants to follow up on http://bugs.debian.org/546329 (formly http://bugs.debian.org/399772 ) Thanks Tzafrir, that was it. I have changed the fxs.debounce and recompiled. My rotary dialer lives again! Thanks again, Mike. signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] 1950's UK rotary dial phone
Way back when, the wctdm driver needed a fix to make it more agreeable to pulse dials in the US. I suspect this is also the case in the UK. Speed and make break ratio are more critical , as pulse detection isn't nearly as smart as a PSTN exchange Search the wiki for more details. How that applies to the current set is unknown to me the suggested fix was never applied to the distributed code, and unfortunately there seems little interest in any support for pulse, or analog in general. John Novack Mike wrote: Folks, I've got one of those GPO 1950's rotary dial phones that I'm trying to get working in the UK. I've got pretty much everything working with my TDM400, the phone rings and I can receive calls but I cannot dial with the rotary dialer. I have set pulsedial=true or whatever the exact setting is and I can dial from the phone by lifting the receiver and tapping out the number on the hook. However, using the rotary dialer does not work (works fine plugged into my phone line). I have read about the possibilty that the pulse settings may need adjusting in kernel.h in the dahdi driver but I have no idea what to set them to. I have tried tweeking them to various extents but I've not been able to bring it to life yet. Does anyone have any experience getting this to work? Does anyone know the specs for UK pulse dial? How long should the pulses be and what is the gap between them? Thanks, Mike. ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users -- Dog is my co-pilot ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
[asterisk-users] 1950's UK rotary dial phone
Folks, I've got one of those GPO 1950's rotary dial phones that I'm trying to get working in the UK. I've got pretty much everything working with my TDM400, the phone rings and I can receive calls but I cannot dial with the rotary dialer. I have set pulsedial=true or whatever the exact setting is and I can dial from the phone by lifting the receiver and tapping out the number on the hook. However, using the rotary dialer does not work (works fine plugged into my phone line). I have read about the possibilty that the pulse settings may need adjusting in kernel.h in the dahdi driver but I have no idea what to set them to. I have tried tweeking them to various extents but I've not been able to bring it to life yet. Does anyone have any experience getting this to work? Does anyone know the specs for UK pulse dial? How long should the pulses be and what is the gap between them? Thanks, Mike. signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] 1950's UK rotary dial phone
Have you tested the dialer mechanism to confirm that it actually works? Sounds like your dialer mechanism MAY not be opening/closing the loop properly. Have you tried using the phone on a Telco-provisioned loop? -K - Original Message - From: Mike asterisk-us...@norgie.net To: asterisk-users@lists.digium.com Sent: Tuesday, November 24, 2009 5:03 PM Subject: [asterisk-users] 1950's UK rotary dial phone ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] 1950's UK rotary dial phone
On Tue, Nov 24, 2009 at 06:55:16PM -0600, Karl Fife wrote: Have you tested the dialer mechanism to confirm that it actually works? Sounds like your dialer mechanism MAY not be opening/closing the loop properly. Have you tried using the phone on a Telco-provisioned loop? -K Yeah, I've plugged the phone directly into the phone line and the dialer works just fine. Plug it into the TDM400 and it doesn't work, although I can tap the number usin the hook. Mike. signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
