Re: [asterisk-users] A Suggestion To Asterisk Appliance Developers

2008-08-22 Thread Johansson Olle E

21 aug 2008 kl. 16.47 skrev [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 Yesterday I blogged a post about some ideas that I think will help
 Asterisk appliances further penetrate SMB/SOHO sites in ways that are
 not presently being addressed.

I would prefer if you mailed the content too. After all this is a  
mailing list. Clicking on the link
just to see what the topic is is something that most readers won't do.  
And it doesn't benefit the
archives either. YOu can add a link, but just saying Hey, I blogged  
something interesting
without saying anything about the topic is not very helpful.

Just some friendly advice if you really want a discussion. Of course,  
I clicked, read and commented ;-)

/O

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Re: [asterisk-users] A Suggestion To Asterisk Appliance Developers

2008-08-22 Thread randulo
On Fri, Aug 22, 2008 at 4:23 AM, Johansson Olle E [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Just some friendly advice if you really want a discussion. Of course,
 I clicked, read and commented ;-)

If this is a way we can get you to say something, Olle, I'm for it! :)

This said, I think Michael was trying to work within the idea that
those interested in this particular post might want to read it.
Michael, if you (or anyone) want to post particular articles here, I'm
sure everyone is ok with that. With the exception of spam, obviously.
The problem too though is if there are images and links in the post,
spam filters, etc. So in the long run, I'd say it's probably better
just to do what he did :)

Best,

r

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Re: [asterisk-users] A Suggestion To Asterisk Appliance Developers

2008-08-22 Thread Tim Panton

On 22 Aug 2008, at 14:55, randulo wrote:

 On Fri, Aug 22, 2008 at 4:23 AM, Johansson Olle E [EMAIL PROTECTED]  
 wrote:
 Just some friendly advice if you really want a discussion. Of course,
 I clicked, read and commented ;-)

 If this is a way we can get you to say something, Olle, I'm for it! :)

 This said, I think Michael was trying to work within the idea that
 those interested in this particular post might want to read it.
 Michael, if you (or anyone) want to post particular articles here, I'm
 sure everyone is ok with that. With the exception of spam, obviously.
 The problem too though is if there are images and links in the post,
 spam filters, etc. So in the long run, I'd say it's probably better
 just to do what he did :)

I'm more with Olle on this one.

I often read this list offline (during my commute) and articles which
reference a web page without at least summarizing the content
are frustrating :-)

Also the archives of this list are a valuable searchable resource
(again available offline as spotlight indexes them for me on the my  
mac).

So a short summary to accompany the link is great.



Tim.

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Re: [asterisk-users] A Suggestion To Asterisk Appliance Developers

2008-08-22 Thread randulo
On Fri, Aug 22, 2008 at 7:18 AM, Tim Panton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I often read this list offline (during my commute) and articles which
 reference a web page without at least summarizing the content
 are frustrating :-)

Not to argue, but to add that for what you describe I use Google
Reader. I load up on bligs (such as Michael's) and read it all offline
on trips. Of course Google Gears does not store images, but you have
whatever part of the text is available via RSS.

r

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Re: [asterisk-users] A Suggestion To Asterisk Appliance Developers

2008-08-22 Thread Michael Graves
On Fri, 22 Aug 2008 13:23:09 +0200, Johansson Olle E wrote:

21 aug 2008 kl. 16.47 skrev [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 Yesterday I blogged a post about some ideas that I think will help
 Asterisk appliances further penetrate SMB/SOHO sites in ways that are
 not presently being addressed.

I would prefer if you mailed the content too. After all this is a  
mailing list. Clicking on the link
just to see what the topic is is something that most readers won't do.  
And it doesn't benefit the
archives either. YOu can add a link, but just saying Hey, I blogged  
something interesting
without saying anything about the topic is not very helpful.

Just some friendly advice if you really want a discussion. Of course,  
I clicked, read and commented ;-)

My appologies. I'm mindful of not posting inappropriately to mailing
lists. Many thanks to those who read to, and the few who saw fit to
comment.

My premise is very simple. Any Asterisk Appliance in a small business
stands a good change of being core infrastructure. If it has hooks to
extend its reach easily into aspects of the business just beyond the
basic telephony/UC sphere then it may be dramatically more valuable to
the end user.

In my particular case I have some nice Polycom and Aastra desk phones.
I'd like to leverage the XHTML browsers in those phones to serve some
utility functions, like opening an electric door release, electric
gate, etc. I don't see why this sort of thing needs to be as difficult
as it is presently.

It seems that at the moment such matters are wholly DIY, or at best
left to a consultant. This takes them out of the sphere of possibility
of a large number of smaller installations, and therefore reduces the
potential utility of the PBX. That seems a waste.

The appliance approach is supposed to make things easier for end user
sites. I think that we should take a broad view of that, and not focus
solely on the telephony aspect. Consider the device a possible solution
to a variety of business needs. Of course, there are limits. I'd never
suggest a production Asterisk box be used as a file server beyond
provisioning phones.

Michael

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[asterisk-users] A Suggestion To Asterisk Appliance Developers

2008-08-21 Thread mgraves
Yesterday I blogged a post about some ideas that I think will help
Asterisk appliances further penetrate SMB/SOHO sites in ways that are
not presently being addressed.

http://blog.mgraves.org/2008/08/20/a-suggestion-to-asterisk-appliance-developers/

Michael Graves
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c(713) 201-1262
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Re: [asterisk-users] A Suggestion To Asterisk Appliance Developers

2008-08-21 Thread EdPimentl
Please google VoIP2.0 apps... this is old old news... even Cisco has
marketed this going back to 2001.
-E
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Re: [asterisk-users] A Suggestion To Asterisk Appliance Developers

2008-08-21 Thread Michael Graves
I Googled as you suggest and nothing even vaugely related is returned.
In fact, VOIP 2.0 as a term doesn't seem to relate.

What I'm suggesting is that smaller PBX systems should embrace a larger
role in the end users operation. 

I don't see CCM is small companies or home offices. This is all about
the SMB/SOHO sector where the PBX could easily me more central to the
users business.

Michael

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Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2008 11:02:22 -0400

Please google VoIP2.0 apps... this is old old news... even Cisco has
marketed this going back to 2001.
-E

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