Re: [asterisk-users] A Suggestion To Asterisk Appliance Developers
21 aug 2008 kl. 16.47 skrev [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Yesterday I blogged a post about some ideas that I think will help Asterisk appliances further penetrate SMB/SOHO sites in ways that are not presently being addressed. I would prefer if you mailed the content too. After all this is a mailing list. Clicking on the link just to see what the topic is is something that most readers won't do. And it doesn't benefit the archives either. YOu can add a link, but just saying Hey, I blogged something interesting without saying anything about the topic is not very helpful. Just some friendly advice if you really want a discussion. Of course, I clicked, read and commented ;-) /O ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- AstriCon 2008 - September 22 - 25 Phoenix, Arizona Register Now: http://www.astricon.net asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] A Suggestion To Asterisk Appliance Developers
On Fri, Aug 22, 2008 at 4:23 AM, Johansson Olle E [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just some friendly advice if you really want a discussion. Of course, I clicked, read and commented ;-) If this is a way we can get you to say something, Olle, I'm for it! :) This said, I think Michael was trying to work within the idea that those interested in this particular post might want to read it. Michael, if you (or anyone) want to post particular articles here, I'm sure everyone is ok with that. With the exception of spam, obviously. The problem too though is if there are images and links in the post, spam filters, etc. So in the long run, I'd say it's probably better just to do what he did :) Best, r ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- AstriCon 2008 - September 22 - 25 Phoenix, Arizona Register Now: http://www.astricon.net asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] A Suggestion To Asterisk Appliance Developers
On 22 Aug 2008, at 14:55, randulo wrote: On Fri, Aug 22, 2008 at 4:23 AM, Johansson Olle E [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just some friendly advice if you really want a discussion. Of course, I clicked, read and commented ;-) If this is a way we can get you to say something, Olle, I'm for it! :) This said, I think Michael was trying to work within the idea that those interested in this particular post might want to read it. Michael, if you (or anyone) want to post particular articles here, I'm sure everyone is ok with that. With the exception of spam, obviously. The problem too though is if there are images and links in the post, spam filters, etc. So in the long run, I'd say it's probably better just to do what he did :) I'm more with Olle on this one. I often read this list offline (during my commute) and articles which reference a web page without at least summarizing the content are frustrating :-) Also the archives of this list are a valuable searchable resource (again available offline as spotlight indexes them for me on the my mac). So a short summary to accompany the link is great. Tim. ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- AstriCon 2008 - September 22 - 25 Phoenix, Arizona Register Now: http://www.astricon.net asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] A Suggestion To Asterisk Appliance Developers
On Fri, Aug 22, 2008 at 7:18 AM, Tim Panton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I often read this list offline (during my commute) and articles which reference a web page without at least summarizing the content are frustrating :-) Not to argue, but to add that for what you describe I use Google Reader. I load up on bligs (such as Michael's) and read it all offline on trips. Of course Google Gears does not store images, but you have whatever part of the text is available via RSS. r ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- AstriCon 2008 - September 22 - 25 Phoenix, Arizona Register Now: http://www.astricon.net asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] A Suggestion To Asterisk Appliance Developers
On Fri, 22 Aug 2008 13:23:09 +0200, Johansson Olle E wrote: 21 aug 2008 kl. 16.47 skrev [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Yesterday I blogged a post about some ideas that I think will help Asterisk appliances further penetrate SMB/SOHO sites in ways that are not presently being addressed. I would prefer if you mailed the content too. After all this is a mailing list. Clicking on the link just to see what the topic is is something that most readers won't do. And it doesn't benefit the archives either. YOu can add a link, but just saying Hey, I blogged something interesting without saying anything about the topic is not very helpful. Just some friendly advice if you really want a discussion. Of course, I clicked, read and commented ;-) My appologies. I'm mindful of not posting inappropriately to mailing lists. Many thanks to those who read to, and the few who saw fit to comment. My premise is very simple. Any Asterisk Appliance in a small business stands a good change of being core infrastructure. If it has hooks to extend its reach easily into aspects of the business just beyond the basic telephony/UC sphere then it may be dramatically more valuable to the end user. In my particular case I have some nice Polycom and Aastra desk phones. I'd like to leverage the XHTML browsers in those phones to serve some utility functions, like opening an electric door release, electric gate, etc. I don't see why this sort of thing needs to be as difficult as it is presently. It seems that at the moment such matters are wholly DIY, or at best left to a consultant. This takes them out of the sphere of possibility of a large number of smaller installations, and therefore reduces the potential utility of the PBX. That seems a waste. The appliance approach is supposed to make things easier for end user sites. I think that we should take a broad view of that, and not focus solely on the telephony aspect. Consider the device a possible solution to a variety of business needs. Of course, there are limits. I'd never suggest a production Asterisk box be used as a file server beyond provisioning phones. Michael Michael -- Michael Graves mgravesatmstvp.com http://blog.mgraves.org o713-861-4005 c713-201-1262 sip:[EMAIL PROTECTED] skype mjgraves ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- AstriCon 2008 - September 22 - 25 Phoenix, Arizona Register Now: http://www.astricon.net asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
[asterisk-users] A Suggestion To Asterisk Appliance Developers
Yesterday I blogged a post about some ideas that I think will help Asterisk appliances further penetrate SMB/SOHO sites in ways that are not presently being addressed. http://blog.mgraves.org/2008/08/20/a-suggestion-to-asterisk-appliance-developers/ Michael Graves mgraves at mstvp.com o(713) 861-4005 c(713) 201-1262 sip:[EMAIL PROTECTED] skype mjgraves FWD 54245 ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- AstriCon 2008 - September 22 - 25 Phoenix, Arizona Register Now: http://www.astricon.net asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] A Suggestion To Asterisk Appliance Developers
Please google VoIP2.0 apps... this is old old news... even Cisco has marketed this going back to 2001. -E ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- AstriCon 2008 - September 22 - 25 Phoenix, Arizona Register Now: http://www.astricon.net asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] A Suggestion To Asterisk Appliance Developers
I Googled as you suggest and nothing even vaugely related is returned. In fact, VOIP 2.0 as a term doesn't seem to relate. What I'm suggesting is that smaller PBX systems should embrace a larger role in the end users operation. I don't see CCM is small companies or home offices. This is all about the SMB/SOHO sector where the PBX could easily me more central to the users business. Michael --Original Message Text--- From: EdPimentl Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2008 11:02:22 -0400 Please google VoIP2.0 apps... this is old old news... even Cisco has marketed this going back to 2001. -E Internal Virus Database is out of date. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.6.4/1617 - Release Date: 8/17/2008 12:58 PM -- Michael Graves mgravesatmstvp.com http://blog.mgraves.org o713-861-4005 c713-201-1262 sip:[EMAIL PROTECTED] skype mjgraves ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- AstriCon 2008 - September 22 - 25 Phoenix, Arizona Register Now: http://www.astricon.net asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users