Re: [asterisk-users] AA50 Failover
Tzafrir Cohen wrote: On Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 02:10:34PM -0400, Dave Welsh wrote: If I buy two AA50s can I set them up so that everything runs through the first one, but the second one will take over if the first one goes down? I can see the extensions recovering, because they use ethernet, but what about the FSO lines? Is there a way they can be spliced to both AA50s so that no one need to do any emergency rewiring? Thinking aloud: what happens if you just connect th two units on the same phone line? Use one of those fax/modem/phone sharing boxes that blocks the other devices when one is off hook. You basically need a way to prevent the slave unit from answering calls if the master is alive. Set the primary unit to pick up on, say, 2 rings and the secondary unit to pick up on 4. If the primary fails, it won't pick up the line and the secondary takes over. You could try having your phones register to both but I'm not sure how that would work regards, Drew -- Drew Gibson Systems Administrator OANDA Corporation www.oanda.com ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- AstriCon 2008 - September 22 - 25 Phoenix, Arizona Register Now: http://www.astricon.net asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] AA50 Failover
People hate to wait, as a fact i consider AA50s no suited for redundancy, and i am not sure that they were made for that. 2008/8/1 Drew Gibson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tzafrir Cohen wrote: On Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 02:10:34PM -0400, Dave Welsh wrote: If I buy two AA50s can I set them up so that everything runs through the first one, but the second one will take over if the first one goes down? I can see the extensions recovering, because they use ethernet, but what about the FSO lines? Is there a way they can be spliced to both AA50s so that no one need to do any emergency rewiring? Thinking aloud: what happens if you just connect th two units on the same phone line? Use one of those fax/modem/phone sharing boxes that blocks the other devices when one is off hook. You basically need a way to prevent the slave unit from answering calls if the master is alive. Set the primary unit to pick up on, say, 2 rings and the secondary unit to pick up on 4. If the primary fails, it won't pick up the line and the secondary takes over. You could try having your phones register to both but I'm not sure how that would work regards, Drew -- Drew Gibson Systems Administrator OANDA Corporation www.oanda.com ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- AstriCon 2008 - September 22 - 25 Phoenix, Arizona Register Now: http://www.astricon.net asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- AstriCon 2008 - September 22 - 25 Phoenix, Arizona Register Now: http://www.astricon.net asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] AA50 Failover
Set the primary unit to pick up on, say, 2 rings and the secondary unit to pick up on 4. If the primary fails, it won't pick up the line and the secondary takes over. You could try having your phones register to both but I'm not sure how that would work regards, Drew That's exactly how I have things setup. Phones register to both servers. The backup server doesn't do much - only answers incoming calls if the ring goes on for too long. Keep in mind that you may want to configure the backup server to not use the lines for placing outbound calls - maybe setup a SIP trunk for that. Otherwise, when the primary server comes back up, the two will be talking over each other trying to use the same lines. --Brent ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- AstriCon 2008 - September 22 - 25 Phoenix, Arizona Register Now: http://www.astricon.net asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] AA50 Failover
On Fri, 1 Aug 2008 09:20:07 -0500, Brent Torrenga wrote: Set the primary unit to pick up on, say, 2 rings and the secondary unit to pick up on 4. If the primary fails, it won't pick up the line and the secondary takes over. You could try having your phones register to both but I'm not sure how that would work regards, Drew That's exactly how I have things setup. Phones register to both servers. The backup server doesn't do much - only answers incoming calls if the ring goes on for too long. Keep in mind that you may want to configure the backup server to not use the lines for placing outbound calls - maybe setup a SIP trunk for that. Otherwise, when the primary server comes back up, the two will be talking over each other trying to use the same lines. Polycom phones support primary and secondary servers. Michael -- Michael Graves mgravesatmstvp.com http://blog.mgraves.org o713-861-4005 c713-201-1262 sip:[EMAIL PROTECTED] skype mjgraves [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- AstriCon 2008 - September 22 - 25 Phoenix, Arizona Register Now: http://www.astricon.net asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] AA50 Failover
Brent Torrenga wrote: Set the primary unit to pick up on, say, 2 rings and the secondary unit to pick up on 4. If the primary fails, it won't pick up the line and the secondary takes over. You could try having your phones register to both but I'm not sure how that would work regards, Drew That's exactly how I have things setup. Phones register to both servers. The backup server doesn't do much - only answers incoming calls if the ring goes on for too long. Keep in mind that you may want to configure the backup server to not use the lines for placing outbound calls - maybe setup a SIP trunk for that. Otherwise, when the primary server comes back up, the two will be talking over each other trying to use the same lines. --Brent That's where the fax/modem sharing box comes in, if one device port has the line, all other device ports are blocked. Downside is that this will also cause dead air on an outbound call or two until things settle down again. regards, Drew -- Drew Gibson Systems Administrator OANDA Corporation www.oanda.com ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- AstriCon 2008 - September 22 - 25 Phoenix, Arizona Register Now: http://www.astricon.net asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
[asterisk-users] AA50 Failover
If I buy two AA50s can I set them up so that everything runs through the first one, but the second one will take over if the first one goes down? I can see the extensions recovering, because they use ethernet, but what about the FSO lines? Is there a way they can be spliced to both AA50s so that no one need to do any emergency rewiring? -- Dave Welsh Quality of Course (613) 749-8248 ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- AstriCon 2008 - September 22 - 25 Phoenix, Arizona Register Now: http://www.astricon.net asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] AA50 Failover
There is 2 possibilities to do failover with asterisk: First use openser with failover, but still you need to switch cables fxo fxs pri bri Second is simplier and i would choose this one for smallmedium installations where T1/E1 is not needed: It consists of externaising of all fxs fxo pri bri wih sip gateways, and installation 2 servers with heartbeat, you dont need openser in this case, also think of registration time reducing, it helps to swich fast. So why not T1/E1 ? it is possible no problem, but price...3K$ for audiocodes. Of course this is relative, and choice is yours. 2008/7/31 Dave Welsh [EMAIL PROTECTED] If I buy two AA50s can I set them up so that everything runs through the first one, but the second one will take over if the first one goes down? I can see the extensions recovering, because they use ethernet, but what about the FSO lines? Is there a way they can be spliced to both AA50s so that no one need to do any emergency rewiring? -- Dave Welsh Quality of Course (613) 749-8248 ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- AstriCon 2008 - September 22 - 25 Phoenix, Arizona Register Now: http://www.astricon.net asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- AstriCon 2008 - September 22 - 25 Phoenix, Arizona Register Now: http://www.astricon.net asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] AA50 Failover
On Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 02:10:34PM -0400, Dave Welsh wrote: If I buy two AA50s can I set them up so that everything runs through the first one, but the second one will take over if the first one goes down? I can see the extensions recovering, because they use ethernet, but what about the FSO lines? Is there a way they can be spliced to both AA50s so that no one need to do any emergency rewiring? Thinking aloud: what happens if you just connect th two units on the same phone line? You basically need a way to prevent the slave unit from answering calls if the master is alive. The same should work with BRI PtMP, right? (But both are not used. And in the case of BRI, dedicated hardware is used instead. So I guess that there must be a good reason for that) -- Tzafrir Cohen icq#16849755 jabber:[EMAIL PROTECTED] +972-50-7952406 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.xorcom.com iax:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/tzafrir ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- AstriCon 2008 - September 22 - 25 Phoenix, Arizona Register Now: http://www.astricon.net asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] AA50 Failover
From my research, it seems that for FXOs you can use a siple RJ11 splitter. A special splitter that gives priority to the backup split is preferred. These will sometimes be used for old answering machines where the handset can overuse the answering machine if it's picked up. For the server end I was considering heartbeat plus dbrm. I might have to build my own box for that since I've seen it recommended you connect the two boxes by serial port as well as Ethernet. --- Sent from my iPhone On 31-Jul-08, at 4:57 PM, Tzafrir Cohen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 02:10:34PM -0400, Dave Welsh wrote: If I buy two AA50s can I set them up so that everything runs through the first one, but the second one will take over if the first one goes down? I can see the extensions recovering, because they use ethernet, but what about the FSO lines? Is there a way they can be spliced to both AA50s so that no one need to do any emergency rewiring? Thinking aloud: what happens if you just connect th two units on the same phone line? You basically need a way to prevent the slave unit from answering calls if the master is alive. The same should work with BRI PtMP, right? (But both are not used. And in the case of BRI, dedicated hardware is used instead. So I guess that there must be a good reason for that) -- Tzafrir Cohen icq#16849755 jabber:[EMAIL PROTECTED] +972-50-7952406 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.xorcom.com iax:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/tzafrir ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- AstriCon 2008 - September 22 - 25 Phoenix, Arizona Register Now: http://www.astricon.net asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- AstriCon 2008 - September 22 - 25 Phoenix, Arizona Register Now: http://www.astricon.net asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
