Re: [asterisk-users] ATA for large networks

2008-10-02 Thread Nicolas Ross
I personnlay found that marc is better than google when searching mailing 
lists :

http://marc.info/?l=asterisk-usersr=1w=2

 What is the best-recommended resource for searching archives of this 
 mailing
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Re: [asterisk-users] ATA for large networks

2008-10-01 Thread Steve Totaro
They and it make no sense in a conversation discussing half a dozen or more
products..

On Mon, Sep 29, 2008 at 2:51 PM, C F [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Oh, and not to mention, they are cheap. Very cheap in fact.

 On Mon, Sep 29, 2008 at 2:49 PM, C F [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  On Mon, Sep 29, 2008 at 11:15 AM, Steve Totaro
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Huh, please try to form a complete thought
 
  I don't think I have to, since it's strictly an experience based
  questions, the answer I gave is what my experience has been.
  Grandstream can/will tell him that theirs works with some complete
  thought.
 
  And here is my thought, it just works, has all the features without a
  problem, and just don't need to be restarted. They will run and run
  and stay up unless you pull the power.
 
 
 
 
  Thanks,
  Steve Totaro
 
  On Mon, Sep 29, 2008 at 10:53 AM, C F [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Channel Banks only
 
  On Mon, Sep 29, 2008 at 10:44 AM, Steve Totaro
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   Quintum Tenor AX.  Just glance over the manual.  The are far better
 and
   in
   my experience just as reliable as a channel bank.
  
   Thanks,
   Steve Totaro
  
   On Mon, Sep 29, 2008 at 10:26 AM, Eric ManxPower Wieling
   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   wrote:
  
   The most reliable ATA is a channel bank.
  
   Vieri wrote:
--- On Mon, 9/29/08, Sam Tam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   
Why not swap it all with just IP phone?
   
That's because we have almost 400 analog phones already wired in
 our
building (which is very large). So we need to take advantage of
 the
wiring.
   
Also, if we were to convert to an all-IP phone system (non-ATA),
 we
would need to buy more ethernet switches (currently they're all
 full)
and
tunnel cables thtough ceilings and walls. In other words, it would
cost a
lot more than to simply buy ATAs. What I'm looking for however are
STABLE,
RELIABLE ATAs...
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Re: [asterisk-users] ATA for large networks

2008-10-01 Thread C F
Google with site:lists.digium.com which will return answers only from archive.

On Mon, Sep 29, 2008 at 3:42 PM, Brian Webster [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 What is the best-recommended resource for searching archives of this mailing
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Re: [asterisk-users] ATA for large networks

2008-10-01 Thread nav_asr_1
I work at a service provider and we use Audiocode MP-124 (Cisco IAD too). 
They are reliable and stable.  We use them for customers at shopping malls.

Regards,

Armando

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From: Col Ferguson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, September 30, 2008 11:31 PM
To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion 
asterisk-users@lists.digium.com
Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] ATA for large networks

 We have one hotel using Xorcom devices. It has 1 32 port FXS bank, and 1 
 24
 port FXS + 8 Port FXO.
 It works great with all the old analog phones in the motel, over the
 existing wiring.
 I haven't tried it with a fax though, but modem usage is very hit and 
 miss.
 The Xorcom guys are looking into this, as it should work. Apart from that
 problem though, I'm very happy with the Xorcom boxes.

 To do the 380 extensions though would require 12 of these boxes, so you'd 
 be
 using 12 USB connection on a single PC.

 Cheers,
 Col

 - Original Message -
 From: Loic Didelot [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial
 Discussion asterisk-users@lists.digium.com
 Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2008 12:13 AM
 Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] ATA for large networks


 I would use Xorcom devices. Its not realy an ATA but you will have less
 problems managing an asterisk with a few Xorcoms than many ATA devices.

 Also you might have Fax devices and modems in your building and here
 Xorcom is definitively a better choice than ATA devices.

 Loic.

 On Mon, 2008-09-29 at 01:06 -0700, Vieri wrote:
  Hi,
 
  I would like to know if someone can suggest a multi-port ATA worth
 buying (at least 8 ports).
 
  I have around 380 analog phones to convert to SIP extensions. So I need
 quite a few ATAs but they need to be enterprise-grade, ie. they need to 
 be
 reliable and stable.
 
  I bought and have been using 11 Grandstream GXW4008 (8-port FXS ATA) in
 a production environment and have been experiencing stability and quality
 issues which are not acceptable in a large company.
 
  I chose Grandstream because:
 
  - it was a cheap way to start
  - I thought their products were stable and reliable because I had
 already heard their brand name
 
  So since my experience with 11 Grandstream GXW4008 has been overall
 negative (I need to reboot the devices too often!), I'd like to know if
 someone could help me decide what brand/model to buy.
 
  I would also need to find these products in Europe (or at least
 deliverable there).
 
  I've been considering a few products but I don't know if they are
 reliable:
 
  TopGate TG8048 (48 FXS)
  Soundwin S2400 (24 FXS)
 
  In other words, I'd really appreciate feedback from voip administrators
 (not from resellers) who have had experience testing their devices and are
 happy with them.
 
  Thanks,
 
  Vieri
 
 
 
 
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Re: [asterisk-users] ATA for large networks

2008-09-30 Thread Lafras Henning
Hi Asterisk user-list,
I know this sort of mail is frowned upon and I would not normally send 
it, but as it is very topical to the current thread, I hope it may have 
value for some.

Xietel is in the field testing phase of a modular channel bank that 
would be ideal for this application  –  100's of existing points that 
has to be converted to asterisk.

Basic features:
Fxo+Fxs ports.
Scalable from 4 to 64 ports per channel bank.
Wall mount unit
Compact 300mm x 200mm x 100mm deep.
TDMoe protocol
AIX protocol planned
1000m extension cable length.   

Benefits
*Locate 100's of ports in one location on legacy cable.
*Install new banks at point of use –
  use single cat 5 link cable instead of 20/50 pairs cat3.
*Reduce lightning risk for outdoor extensions by
   using Fiber optic between buildings.

Requirements.
*Use a sperate - dedicated TDMoE network.


Expected pricing
$2395 US for 48 ports
$1395 US for 24 ports

Availability
Q1 2009 


Regards
Lafras

www.xietel.com


Vinícius Fontes wrote:
 I installed a few Spidermux units on some clients. It works fine, but I had 
 some trouble with cordless analog phones connected to it. The ring voltage is 
 pretty low and that caused some phones to not ring at all. And the ring 
 voltage isn't configurable.
 
 Aside from that, it is a good product. Too bad it's the only TDMoE channel 
 bank (that I know of, at least).
 
 Atenciosamente,
 
 Vinícius Fontes
 Núcleo de Tecnologias Convergentes
 Canall Tecnologia em Comunicações
 Passo Fundo - RS - Brasil
 +55 54 2104-7000
  
 Convergent Technologies Core
 Canall Tecnologia em Comunicações
 Passo Fundo - RS - Brazil
 +55 54 2104-7000
 
 - Vieri [EMAIL PROTECTED] escreveu:
 
 Thanks for the feedback.

 I'm particularly curious to know if anyone has tried a TDMoE channel
 bank. Spidermux seems to be one of the few vendors available. It's the
 closest I can get to an ATA-like device (ie. no special hardware,
 just ethernet) and it also offers an easy failover mechanism to
 another Asterisk server on the LAN.
 So I'm wondering why TDMoE channel banks aren't that popular (am I
 wrong?)? Is Asterisk's native TDMoE implemntation unreliable?
 Has anyone tested Spidermux or other TDMoE channel bank manufacturer?

 Standard channel banks become expensive when one has to buy the
 T1/E1 PCI cards on the Asterisk server. Since most channel banks
 interface with T1 (24 channels) and if I have about 350 analog phones
 to connect then I'd need around 15 T1s (that's about 4 quad-pri T1
 cards which of course require 4 PCI slots and a fair amount of cash).

 Xorcom's Astribank is something in-between. It doesn't require PCI
 slots or T1 cards but connects via USB. Just like T1 channel banks,
 Astribanks don't  seem to offer an easy failover mechanism like in the
 TDMoE solution (correct me if I'm wrong). However, a potentially
 higher number of astribanks can be cheaply connected to a single
 Asterisk server via several USB ports. I'm wondering how many 24-FXS
 astribanks can be connected via USB 2.0 to a single 4-USB-port
 server.

 Of the three solutions I'd try the TDMoE device but I'm wondering why
 noone in this thread even mentioned the protocol.



   

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Re: [asterisk-users] ATA for large networks

2008-09-30 Thread Johann Steinwendtner
Gordon Henderson wrote:
 On Mon, 29 Sep 2008, Andres wrote:
 
 In other words, I'd really appreciate feedback from voip administrators 
 (not from resellers) who have had experience testing their devices and are 
 happy with them.



 I would recommend the Linksys SPA8000 (8 port ATA).   It is as solid and
 reliable as the SPA2102.
 
 The OP has 300 phones. That's 38 SPA devices.
 
 And while you might think it's solid and reliable, I have one customer 
 using 3 of them and they're not impressed with echo on their existing 
 analog network.
 
 This is high-end channel bank territory. Multiple E1s - traditional 
 channel banks, or something like multiple 24-port Xorcom units or the 
 like...
 
 Gordon

Does each FXS port need one channel on the E-1 interface, or is there some
sort of concentration ? I can imagine that in a hotel environment, 1 FXS port
to one E1 channel is a waste of resources.

Thanks

Hans


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Re: [asterisk-users] ATA for large networks

2008-09-30 Thread Jerry Jones

Google works

enter this along with your search string

site:lists.digium.com your.search.string.here

dont type the 



On Sep 29, 2008, at 2:42 PM, Brian Webster wrote:

What is the best-recommended resource for searching archives of this  
mailing list?


Thanks for your time
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Re: [asterisk-users] ATA for large networks

2008-09-30 Thread Loic Didelot
I would use Xorcom devices. Its not realy an ATA but you will have less
problems managing an asterisk with a few Xorcoms than many ATA devices.

Also you might have Fax devices and modems in your building and here
Xorcom is definitively a better choice than ATA devices.

Loic.

On Mon, 2008-09-29 at 01:06 -0700, Vieri wrote:
 Hi,
 
 I would like to know if someone can suggest a multi-port ATA worth buying (at 
 least 8 ports).
 
 I have around 380 analog phones to convert to SIP extensions. So I need quite 
 a few ATAs but they need to be enterprise-grade, ie. they need to be 
 reliable and stable.
 
 I bought and have been using 11 Grandstream GXW4008 (8-port FXS ATA) in a 
 production environment and have been experiencing stability and quality 
 issues which are not acceptable in a large company.
 
 I chose Grandstream because:
 
 - it was a cheap way to start
 - I thought their products were stable and reliable because I had already 
 heard their brand name
 
 So since my experience with 11 Grandstream GXW4008 has been overall negative 
 (I need to reboot the devices too often!), I'd like to know if someone could 
 help me decide what brand/model to buy.
 
 I would also need to find these products in Europe (or at least deliverable 
 there).
 
 I've been considering a few products but I don't know if they are reliable:
 
 TopGate TG8048 (48 FXS)
 Soundwin S2400 (24 FXS)
 
 In other words, I'd really appreciate feedback from voip administrators (not 
 from resellers) who have had experience testing their devices and are happy 
 with them.
 
 Thanks,
 
 Vieri
 
 
   
 
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Re: [asterisk-users] ATA for large networks

2008-09-30 Thread Col Ferguson
We have one hotel using Xorcom devices. It has 1 32 port FXS bank, and 1 24
port FXS + 8 Port FXO.
It works great with all the old analog phones in the motel, over the
existing wiring.
I haven't tried it with a fax though, but modem usage is very hit and miss.
The Xorcom guys are looking into this, as it should work. Apart from that
problem though, I'm very happy with the Xorcom boxes.

To do the 380 extensions though would require 12 of these boxes, so you'd be
using 12 USB connection on a single PC.

Cheers,
Col

- Original Message -
From: Loic Didelot [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial
Discussion asterisk-users@lists.digium.com
Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2008 12:13 AM
Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] ATA for large networks


 I would use Xorcom devices. Its not realy an ATA but you will have less
 problems managing an asterisk with a few Xorcoms than many ATA devices.

 Also you might have Fax devices and modems in your building and here
 Xorcom is definitively a better choice than ATA devices.

 Loic.

 On Mon, 2008-09-29 at 01:06 -0700, Vieri wrote:
  Hi,
 
  I would like to know if someone can suggest a multi-port ATA worth
buying (at least 8 ports).
 
  I have around 380 analog phones to convert to SIP extensions. So I need
quite a few ATAs but they need to be enterprise-grade, ie. they need to be
reliable and stable.
 
  I bought and have been using 11 Grandstream GXW4008 (8-port FXS ATA) in
a production environment and have been experiencing stability and quality
issues which are not acceptable in a large company.
 
  I chose Grandstream because:
 
  - it was a cheap way to start
  - I thought their products were stable and reliable because I had
already heard their brand name
 
  So since my experience with 11 Grandstream GXW4008 has been overall
negative (I need to reboot the devices too often!), I'd like to know if
someone could help me decide what brand/model to buy.
 
  I would also need to find these products in Europe (or at least
deliverable there).
 
  I've been considering a few products but I don't know if they are
reliable:
 
  TopGate TG8048 (48 FXS)
  Soundwin S2400 (24 FXS)
 
  In other words, I'd really appreciate feedback from voip administrators
(not from resellers) who have had experience testing their devices and are
happy with them.
 
  Thanks,
 
  Vieri
 
 
 
 
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[asterisk-users] ATA for large networks

2008-09-29 Thread Vieri
Hi,

I would like to know if someone can suggest a multi-port ATA worth buying (at 
least 8 ports).

I have around 380 analog phones to convert to SIP extensions. So I need quite a 
few ATAs but they need to be enterprise-grade, ie. they need to be reliable 
and stable.

I bought and have been using 11 Grandstream GXW4008 (8-port FXS ATA) in a 
production environment and have been experiencing stability and quality issues 
which are not acceptable in a large company.

I chose Grandstream because:

- it was a cheap way to start
- I thought their products were stable and reliable because I had already heard 
their brand name

So since my experience with 11 Grandstream GXW4008 has been overall negative (I 
need to reboot the devices too often!), I'd like to know if someone could help 
me decide what brand/model to buy.

I would also need to find these products in Europe (or at least deliverable 
there).

I've been considering a few products but I don't know if they are reliable:

TopGate TG8048 (48 FXS)
Soundwin S2400 (24 FXS)

In other words, I'd really appreciate feedback from voip administrators (not 
from resellers) who have had experience testing their devices and are happy 
with them.

Thanks,

Vieri


  

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Re: [asterisk-users] ATA for large networks

2008-09-29 Thread Sam Tam
Why not swap it all with just IP phone?
Sam

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Vieri
Sent: Monday, September 29, 2008 4:06 PM
To: asterisk-users@lists.digium.com
Subject: [asterisk-users] ATA for large networks

Hi,

I would like to know if someone can suggest a multi-port ATA worth buying
(at least 8 ports).

I have around 380 analog phones to convert to SIP extensions. So I need
quite a few ATAs but they need to be enterprise-grade, ie. they need to be
reliable and stable.

I bought and have been using 11 Grandstream GXW4008 (8-port FXS ATA) in a
production environment and have been experiencing stability and quality
issues which are not acceptable in a large company.

I chose Grandstream because:

- it was a cheap way to start
- I thought their products were stable and reliable because I had already
heard their brand name

So since my experience with 11 Grandstream GXW4008 has been overall negative
(I need to reboot the devices too often!), I'd like to know if someone could
help me decide what brand/model to buy.

I would also need to find these products in Europe (or at least deliverable
there).

I've been considering a few products but I don't know if they are reliable:

TopGate TG8048 (48 FXS)
Soundwin S2400 (24 FXS)

In other words, I'd really appreciate feedback from voip administrators (not
from resellers) who have had experience testing their devices and are happy
with them.

Thanks,

Vieri


  

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Re: [asterisk-users] ATA for large networks

2008-09-29 Thread Vieri

--- On Mon, 9/29/08, Sam Tam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Why not swap it all with just IP phone?

That's because we have almost 400 analog phones already wired in our building 
(which is very large). So we need to take advantage of the wiring.

Also, if we were to convert to an all-IP phone system (non-ATA), we would need 
to buy more ethernet switches (currently they're all full) and tunnel cables 
thtough ceilings and walls. In other words, it would cost a lot more than to 
simply buy ATAs. What I'm looking for however are STABLE, RELIABLE ATAs...

Thanks for the feedback,

Vieri



  

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Re: [asterisk-users] ATA for large networks

2008-09-29 Thread Thanos Koukoulis
On Mon, Sep 29, 2008 at 12:00 PM, Vieri [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 --- On Mon, 9/29/08, Sam Tam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  Why not swap it all with just IP phone?

 That's because we have almost 400 analog phones already wired in our
 building (which is very large). So we need to take advantage of the wiring.

 Also, if we were to convert to an all-IP phone system (non-ATA), we would
 need to buy more ethernet switches (currently they're all full) and tunnel
 cables thtough ceilings and walls. In other words, it would cost a lot more
 than to simply buy ATAs. What I'm looking for however are STABLE, RELIABLE
 ATAs...

 Thanks for the feedback,

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You can actually buy IP Phones that have an Ethernet switch incorporated in
them
and take advantage of your existing cabling infrastructure with no need for
new switches etc.

I have only used Cisco 188 ATA without any troubles at all but those only
have 2 ports and
not applicable for your situation.

Otherwise you can try Software SIP Phones if everyone is using a PC
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Re: [asterisk-users] ATA for large networks

2008-09-29 Thread Olivier
2008/9/29 Thanos Koukoulis [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 Otherwise you can try Software SIP Phones if everyone is using a PC

 Beside few people, it's very difficult to swap hardphones and softphones.
Have you observed any successful experience in doing so ?

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Re: [asterisk-users] ATA for large networks

2008-09-29 Thread Darrick Hartman
Vieri wrote:
 --- On Mon, 9/29/08, Sam Tam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 Why not swap it all with just IP phone?
 
 That's because we have almost 400 analog phones already wired in our building 
 (which is very large). So we need to take advantage of the wiring.
 
 Also, if we were to convert to an all-IP phone system (non-ATA), we would 
 need to buy more ethernet switches (currently they're all full) and tunnel 
 cables thtough ceilings and walls. In other words, it would cost a lot more 
 than to simply buy ATAs. What I'm looking for however are STABLE, RELIABLE 
 ATAs...
 
 Thanks for the feedback,
 
 Vieri

You'll probably want to use FXS channel banks rather than an ATA.  At 
that kind of scale, I'd call Rhino or Xorcom and have them make the 
recommendation.  You will still end up with a large number of devices 
and likely several asterisk servers to coordinate all of this.  When you 
really look at the numbers, finding a way to use IP phones may not be 
that much more than the overall hardware cost involved to do this right 
with analog lines.

Darrick

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Re: [asterisk-users] ATA for large networks

2008-09-29 Thread Andres


In other words, I'd really appreciate feedback from voip administrators (not 
from resellers) who have had experience testing their devices and are happy 
with them.

  

I would recommend the Linksys SPA8000 (8 port ATA).   It is as solid and 
reliable as the SPA2102. 

Andres
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Thanks,

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Re: [asterisk-users] ATA for large networks

2008-09-29 Thread Thanos Koukoulis
On Mon, Sep 29, 2008 at 2:30 PM, Olivier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



 2008/9/29 Thanos Koukoulis [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 Otherwise you can try Software SIP Phones if everyone is using a PC

 Beside few people, it's very difficult to swap hardphones and softphones.
 Have you observed any successful experience in doing so ?

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Well my experience with major softphone deployment was using Cisco Call
Manager.
In that situation we had ~150 softphones and ~100 IP Phones. Apart from the
initial configuration and taking extra care that the machines running the
softphones were configured
correctly we experienced very few problems.  Extra care had to be taken to
select good quality headphones and USB headphones did tend to work better
than ones connected to
sound cards.
Problems arose when the users 'tinkered' with their machines (which we
eventually locked down pretty hard) or an unrelated application crashing
causing the whole machine to slow
down to a crawl and affecting voice quality significantly.
Otherwise things did work rather smoothly and the extra mobility gains for
some of our users
(moving around the office with their mobile PCs) made it worthwhile.
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Re: [asterisk-users] ATA for large networks

2008-09-29 Thread Gordon Henderson
On Mon, 29 Sep 2008, Andres wrote:



 In other words, I'd really appreciate feedback from voip administrators (not 
 from resellers) who have had experience testing their devices and are happy 
 with them.



 I would recommend the Linksys SPA8000 (8 port ATA).   It is as solid and
 reliable as the SPA2102.

The OP has 300 phones. That's 38 SPA devices.

And while you might think it's solid and reliable, I have one customer 
using 3 of them and they're not impressed with echo on their existing 
analog network.

This is high-end channel bank territory. Multiple E1s - traditional 
channel banks, or something like multiple 24-port Xorcom units or the 
like...

Gordon

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Re: [asterisk-users] ATA for large networks

2008-09-29 Thread Tom Moore
I will second this opinion.

This may be going a little off topic, but is there a way to lock the voip
section of the ata so that the end user can not change settings in this
area, but as far as the ip settings go and other sections the user will be
able to access them?

Thanks,
Tom

 

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In other words, I'd really appreciate feedback from voip administrators
(not from resellers) who have had experience testing their devices and are
happy with them.

  

I would recommend the Linksys SPA8000 (8 port ATA).   It is as solid and 
reliable as the SPA2102. 

Andres
http://www.neuroredes.com

Thanks,

Vieri


  

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Re: [asterisk-users] ATA for large networks

2008-09-29 Thread Steve Totaro
Quintum Tenor AX.  Just glance over the manual.  The are far better and in
my experience just as reliable as a channel bank.

Thanks,
Steve Totaro

On Mon, Sep 29, 2008 at 10:26 AM, Eric ManxPower Wieling [EMAIL 
PROTECTED]wrote:

 The most reliable ATA is a channel bank.

 Vieri wrote:
  --- On Mon, 9/29/08, Sam Tam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Why not swap it all with just IP phone?
 
  That's because we have almost 400 analog phones already wired in our
 building (which is very large). So we need to take advantage of the wiring.
 
  Also, if we were to convert to an all-IP phone system (non-ATA), we would
 need to buy more ethernet switches (currently they're all full) and tunnel
 cables thtough ceilings and walls. In other words, it would cost a lot more
 than to simply buy ATAs. What I'm looking for however are STABLE, RELIABLE
 ATAs...
 --
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Re: [asterisk-users] ATA for large networks

2008-09-29 Thread Eric ManxPower Wieling
The most reliable ATA is a channel bank.

Vieri wrote:
 --- On Mon, 9/29/08, Sam Tam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 Why not swap it all with just IP phone?
 
 That's because we have almost 400 analog phones already wired in our building 
 (which is very large). So we need to take advantage of the wiring.
 
 Also, if we were to convert to an all-IP phone system (non-ATA), we would 
 need to buy more ethernet switches (currently they're all full) and tunnel 
 cables thtough ceilings and walls. In other words, it would cost a lot more 
 than to simply buy ATAs. What I'm looking for however are STABLE, RELIABLE 
 ATAs...
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Re: [asterisk-users] ATA for large networks

2008-09-29 Thread Andres
Tom Moore wrote:

I will second this opinion.

This may be going a little off topic, but is there a way to lock the voip
section of the ata so that the end user can not change settings in this
area, but as far as the ip settings go and other sections the user will be
able to access them?
  

Yes it is possible but a little bit more involved.  First you setup the 
device to download the profile from a tftp or http server where you 
setup the xml file.  The file will have all the parameters defined like 
this:

  Proxy_1_ ua=na192.168.1.200/Proxy_1_

What that ua=na mean is that the user will have No Access to the 
parameter.  The other 2 options are ro and rw, read-only and 
read-write respectively.  There is no way to define these directly on 
the SPA web page, you have to use a provisioning file in order to define 
these permissions.

Andres
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Thanks,
Tom

 

  



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Re: [asterisk-users] ATA for large networks

2008-09-29 Thread C F
Channel Banks only

On Mon, Sep 29, 2008 at 10:44 AM, Steve Totaro
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Quintum Tenor AX.  Just glance over the manual.  The are far better and in
 my experience just as reliable as a channel bank.

 Thanks,
 Steve Totaro

 On Mon, Sep 29, 2008 at 10:26 AM, Eric ManxPower Wieling [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:

 The most reliable ATA is a channel bank.

 Vieri wrote:
  --- On Mon, 9/29/08, Sam Tam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Why not swap it all with just IP phone?
 
  That's because we have almost 400 analog phones already wired in our
  building (which is very large). So we need to take advantage of the wiring.
 
  Also, if we were to convert to an all-IP phone system (non-ATA), we
  would need to buy more ethernet switches (currently they're all full) and
  tunnel cables thtough ceilings and walls. In other words, it would cost a
  lot more than to simply buy ATAs. What I'm looking for however are STABLE,
  RELIABLE ATAs...
 --
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Re: [asterisk-users] ATA for large networks

2008-09-29 Thread Yehavi Bourvine
Try AudioCodes MP-124 which is 24 ports FXS. I have one but haven't used it
much yet, so I cannot comment about its quiality.

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Re: [asterisk-users] ATA for large networks

2008-09-29 Thread Steve Totaro
Huh, please try to form a complete thought

Thanks,
Steve Totaro

On Mon, Sep 29, 2008 at 10:53 AM, C F [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Channel Banks only

 On Mon, Sep 29, 2008 at 10:44 AM, Steve Totaro
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Quintum Tenor AX.  Just glance over the manual.  The are far better and
 in
  my experience just as reliable as a channel bank.
 
  Thanks,
  Steve Totaro
 
  On Mon, Sep 29, 2008 at 10:26 AM, Eric ManxPower Wieling 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  wrote:
 
  The most reliable ATA is a channel bank.
 
  Vieri wrote:
   --- On Mon, 9/29/08, Sam Tam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
   Why not swap it all with just IP phone?
  
   That's because we have almost 400 analog phones already wired in our
   building (which is very large). So we need to take advantage of the
 wiring.
  
   Also, if we were to convert to an all-IP phone system (non-ATA), we
   would need to buy more ethernet switches (currently they're all full)
 and
   tunnel cables thtough ceilings and walls. In other words, it would
 cost a
   lot more than to simply buy ATAs. What I'm looking for however are
 STABLE,
   RELIABLE ATAs...
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Re: [asterisk-users] ATA for large networks

2008-09-29 Thread Carlos Chavez
The Linksys SPA-8000 is an 8 port FXS unit that works very well.

For that volume you should also consider either a Channelbank or maybe
a Xorcom Astribank.  You can get those in 24 or 32 port versions.

On Mon, 2008-09-29 at 02:00 -0700, Vieri wrote:
 --- On Mon, 9/29/08, Sam Tam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Why not swap it all with just IP phone?
 
 That's because we have almost 400 analog phones already wired in our building 
 (which is very large). So we need to take advantage of the wiring.
 
 Also, if we were to convert to an all-IP phone system (non-ATA), we would 
 need to buy more ethernet switches (currently they're all full) and tunnel 
 cables thtough ceilings and walls. In other words, it would cost a lot more 
 than to simply buy ATAs. What I'm looking for however are STABLE, RELIABLE 
 ATAs...
 
 Thanks for the feedback,
 
 Vieri
 
 
 
   
 
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Re: [asterisk-users] ATA for large networks

2008-09-29 Thread C F
On Mon, Sep 29, 2008 at 11:15 AM, Steve Totaro
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Huh, please try to form a complete thought

I don't think I have to, since it's strictly an experience based
questions, the answer I gave is what my experience has been.
Grandstream can/will tell him that theirs works with some complete
thought.

And here is my thought, it just works, has all the features without a
problem, and just don't need to be restarted. They will run and run
and stay up unless you pull the power.




 Thanks,
 Steve Totaro

 On Mon, Sep 29, 2008 at 10:53 AM, C F [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Channel Banks only

 On Mon, Sep 29, 2008 at 10:44 AM, Steve Totaro
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Quintum Tenor AX.  Just glance over the manual.  The are far better and
  in
  my experience just as reliable as a channel bank.
 
  Thanks,
  Steve Totaro
 
  On Mon, Sep 29, 2008 at 10:26 AM, Eric ManxPower Wieling
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  wrote:
 
  The most reliable ATA is a channel bank.
 
  Vieri wrote:
   --- On Mon, 9/29/08, Sam Tam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
   Why not swap it all with just IP phone?
  
   That's because we have almost 400 analog phones already wired in our
   building (which is very large). So we need to take advantage of the
   wiring.
  
   Also, if we were to convert to an all-IP phone system (non-ATA), we
   would need to buy more ethernet switches (currently they're all full)
   and
   tunnel cables thtough ceilings and walls. In other words, it would
   cost a
   lot more than to simply buy ATAs. What I'm looking for however are
   STABLE,
   RELIABLE ATAs...
  --
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  QoS,
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Re: [asterisk-users] ATA for large networks

2008-09-29 Thread C F
Oh, and not to mention, they are cheap. Very cheap in fact.

On Mon, Sep 29, 2008 at 2:49 PM, C F [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Mon, Sep 29, 2008 at 11:15 AM, Steve Totaro
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Huh, please try to form a complete thought

 I don't think I have to, since it's strictly an experience based
 questions, the answer I gave is what my experience has been.
 Grandstream can/will tell him that theirs works with some complete
 thought.

 And here is my thought, it just works, has all the features without a
 problem, and just don't need to be restarted. They will run and run
 and stay up unless you pull the power.




 Thanks,
 Steve Totaro

 On Mon, Sep 29, 2008 at 10:53 AM, C F [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Channel Banks only

 On Mon, Sep 29, 2008 at 10:44 AM, Steve Totaro
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Quintum Tenor AX.  Just glance over the manual.  The are far better and
  in
  my experience just as reliable as a channel bank.
 
  Thanks,
  Steve Totaro
 
  On Mon, Sep 29, 2008 at 10:26 AM, Eric ManxPower Wieling
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  wrote:
 
  The most reliable ATA is a channel bank.
 
  Vieri wrote:
   --- On Mon, 9/29/08, Sam Tam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
   Why not swap it all with just IP phone?
  
   That's because we have almost 400 analog phones already wired in our
   building (which is very large). So we need to take advantage of the
   wiring.
  
   Also, if we were to convert to an all-IP phone system (non-ATA), we
   would need to buy more ethernet switches (currently they're all full)
   and
   tunnel cables thtough ceilings and walls. In other words, it would
   cost a
   lot more than to simply buy ATAs. What I'm looking for however are
   STABLE,
   RELIABLE ATAs...
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Re: [asterisk-users] ATA for large networks

2008-09-29 Thread Jerry Jones


On Sep 29, 2008, at 9:55 AM, Yehavi Bourvine wrote:

 Try AudioCodes MP-124 which is 24 ports FXS. I have one but haven't  
 used it much yet, so I cannot comment about its quiality.
 \


Sorry, cant agree with this, tried a couple and replaced with channel  
banks.


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Re: [asterisk-users] ATA for large networks

2008-09-29 Thread Brian Webster
What is the best-recommended resource for searching archives of this mailing
list?

Thanks for your time
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Re: [asterisk-users] ATA for large networks

2008-09-29 Thread broadband Voice
Linksys SPA-8000 is an 8 port  looks great, is there something similar which
serves as a wireless router as well.

On Mon, Sep 29, 2008 at 3:42 PM, Brian Webster [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote:

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Re: [asterisk-users] ATA for large networks

2008-09-29 Thread Vieri
Thanks for the feedback.

I'm particularly curious to know if anyone has tried a TDMoE channel bank. 
Spidermux seems to be one of the few vendors available. It's the closest I can 
get to an ATA-like device (ie. no special hardware, just ethernet) and it 
also offers an easy failover mechanism to another Asterisk server on the LAN.
So I'm wondering why TDMoE channel banks aren't that popular (am I wrong?)? Is 
Asterisk's native TDMoE implemntation unreliable?
Has anyone tested Spidermux or other TDMoE channel bank manufacturer?

Standard channel banks become expensive when one has to buy the T1/E1 PCI 
cards on the Asterisk server. Since most channel banks interface with T1 (24 
channels) and if I have about 350 analog phones to connect then I'd need around 
15 T1s (that's about 4 quad-pri T1 cards which of course require 4 PCI slots 
and a fair amount of cash).

Xorcom's Astribank is something in-between. It doesn't require PCI slots or T1 
cards but connects via USB. Just like T1 channel banks, Astribanks don't  seem 
to offer an easy failover mechanism like in the TDMoE solution (correct me if 
I'm wrong). However, a potentially higher number of astribanks can be cheaply 
connected to a single Asterisk server via several USB ports. I'm wondering how 
many 24-FXS astribanks can be connected via USB 2.0 to a single 4-USB-port 
server.

Of the three solutions I'd try the TDMoE device but I'm wondering why noone in 
this thread even mentioned the protocol.



  

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Re: [asterisk-users] ATA for large networks

2008-09-29 Thread Vinícius Fontes
I installed a few Spidermux units on some clients. It works fine, but I had 
some trouble with cordless analog phones connected to it. The ring voltage is 
pretty low and that caused some phones to not ring at all. And the ring voltage 
isn't configurable.

Aside from that, it is a good product. Too bad it's the only TDMoE channel bank 
(that I know of, at least).

Atenciosamente,

Vinícius Fontes
Núcleo de Tecnologias Convergentes
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- Vieri [EMAIL PROTECTED] escreveu:

 Thanks for the feedback.
 
 I'm particularly curious to know if anyone has tried a TDMoE channel
 bank. Spidermux seems to be one of the few vendors available. It's the
 closest I can get to an ATA-like device (ie. no special hardware,
 just ethernet) and it also offers an easy failover mechanism to
 another Asterisk server on the LAN.
 So I'm wondering why TDMoE channel banks aren't that popular (am I
 wrong?)? Is Asterisk's native TDMoE implemntation unreliable?
 Has anyone tested Spidermux or other TDMoE channel bank manufacturer?
 
 Standard channel banks become expensive when one has to buy the
 T1/E1 PCI cards on the Asterisk server. Since most channel banks
 interface with T1 (24 channels) and if I have about 350 analog phones
 to connect then I'd need around 15 T1s (that's about 4 quad-pri T1
 cards which of course require 4 PCI slots and a fair amount of cash).
 
 Xorcom's Astribank is something in-between. It doesn't require PCI
 slots or T1 cards but connects via USB. Just like T1 channel banks,
 Astribanks don't  seem to offer an easy failover mechanism like in the
 TDMoE solution (correct me if I'm wrong). However, a potentially
 higher number of astribanks can be cheaply connected to a single
 Asterisk server via several USB ports. I'm wondering how many 24-FXS
 astribanks can be connected via USB 2.0 to a single 4-USB-port
 server.
 
 Of the three solutions I'd try the TDMoE device but I'm wondering why
 noone in this thread even mentioned the protocol.
 
 
 
   
 
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