Re: [asterisk-users] About BRI / ISDN hardware. What to buy?

2007-01-20 Thread Asterisk List

Hi,

http://store.%50honiceq.com has the quadbri card for $400. We can also
offer free shipping for this card.

The card has 4 BRI ports and is based on the same main chipset
(HFC-4S) as Digium/Beronet/Junghanns cards. It does not have EC
onboard.

best regards

On 1/18/07, Cosmin Prund [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I finally found a price tag for the darn thing, at around 500 euros I
can handle it.
Qustion: Do they behave properly if I've got an other Digium TDM400 card
in the system? How about installing two cards in the same server?
At the moment I've only got 1 ISDN line plus a few analog lines going
into the TDM but in the very near future we might want to get a second ISDN.

Alberto Pastore wrote:
 Jens Vagelpohl ha scritto:
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 On 18 Jan 2007, at 18:31, Patrick wrote:
 I think http://www.melware.de carries the Eicon Server ISDN cards which
 have hardware echo cancellation. They are also the author of the
 chan_capi driver for Asterisk. I use the Eicon Server BRI cards with
 Asterisk myself and they work very well.

 I concur, I have a Eicon DIVA single port BRI card and it works very
 well.

 Cosmin, if you want to use it for Fax traffic as well make sure you
 do *not* get a V-BRI card. Those will not do Fax.

 jens


 Tried almost all cards (Junghanns, Sangoma, Beronet, some hfc-based oem
 cards, Eicon Diva Server).

 Eicon is expensive but is *REALLY* worth it.
 The other cards are just a waste of money (even if little money).

 If you want a reliable PBX (who doesn't want it?),
 Diva Server cards are the definitive choice.

 The best card ever.
 Zero echo problems, superb hardware echo cancellation.
 Top reliability.
 Excellent FAX support with Hylafax (only cards with builtin DSPs,
 that is, NOT the V-series, as pointed out by Jens).

 Easy driver installation and powerful utilities/configuration tools.


 I tested BRI-2M, 4BRI-8M, PRI-30M on several installations,
 even older 1.0 version cards (PCI 5v only) just work great.

 I use diva server drivers  software source rpm from Eicon,
 chan_capi from www.melware.org (0.7.1) on asterisk 1.2.14
 (kernel 2.6.17.3). We've deployed more than 40 PBX (from 1 bri
 to 8 bri) without a flaw.

 I'm only a little bit annoyed about not being able to take
 advantage of the onboard DSPs to perform audio transcoding,
 because
 of the lack of a suitable asterisk driver
 (the cards themselves support hardware gsm/g726 codecs,
 for instance).

 Alberto.

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[asterisk-users] About BRI / ISDN hardware. What to buy?

2007-01-18 Thread Cosmin Prund

Hello everyone.

I need a BRI ISDN card that works in Romania. I already have one of the 
Cologne HFC-S PCI cards and it doesn't work right, it's junk. I get 
wy too much echo using it. I'm now shopping for a better card. Can 
anyone recommend me a card that fits the following:


(a) Costs less then $1000 / 750 euro
(b) Has one or (preferably) two ISDN S0 interfaces.
(c) Easy to set up.
(d) Drivers offer proper echo-canceling OR has an hardware echo 
canceler. I might increase the $1000 a bit if I can get good hardware 
echo canceler...


Thanks,
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Re: [asterisk-users] About BRI / ISDN hardware. What to buy?

2007-01-18 Thread Patrick
On Thu, 2007-01-18 at 19:00 +0200, Cosmin Prund wrote:
 Hello everyone.
 
 I need a BRI ISDN card that works in Romania. I already have one of the 
 Cologne HFC-S PCI cards and it doesn't work right, it's junk. I get 
 wy too much echo using it. I'm now shopping for a better card. Can 
 anyone recommend me a card that fits the following:
 
 (a) Costs less then $1000 / 750 euro
 (b) Has one or (preferably) two ISDN S0 interfaces.
 (c) Easy to set up.
 (d) Drivers offer proper echo-canceling OR has an hardware echo 
 canceler. I might increase the $1000 a bit if I can get good hardware 
 echo canceler...

I think http://www.melware.de carries the Eicon Server ISDN cards which
have hardware echo cancellation. They are also the author of the
chan_capi driver for Asterisk. I use the Eicon Server BRI cards with
Asterisk myself and they work very well.

Regards,
Patrick

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Re: [asterisk-users] About BRI / ISDN hardware. What to buy?

2007-01-18 Thread Jens Vagelpohl

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On 18 Jan 2007, at 18:31, Patrick wrote:
I think http://www.melware.de carries the Eicon Server ISDN cards  
which

have hardware echo cancellation. They are also the author of the
chan_capi driver for Asterisk. I use the Eicon Server BRI cards with
Asterisk myself and they work very well.


I concur, I have a Eicon DIVA single port BRI card and it works very  
well.


Cosmin, if you want to use it for Fax traffic as well make sure you  
do *not* get a V-BRI card. Those will not do Fax.


jens



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Re: [asterisk-users] About BRI / ISDN hardware. What to buy?

2007-01-18 Thread Cosmin Prund

I do not care about fax. I just want a good VOICE card.

Can someone please give a price quote for this card, give or take 10%? I 
just spent 5 minutes filling in a really long form on a shopping web 
site to get a price quote, only to find my account needs to be manually 
activated before I can see the price! That's *STUPID*. If I have a 
choice, I'll buy it from somewhere else...


Jens Vagelpohl wrote:

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On 18 Jan 2007, at 18:31, Patrick wrote:

I think http://www.melware.de carries the Eicon Server ISDN cards which
have hardware echo cancellation. They are also the author of the
chan_capi driver for Asterisk. I use the Eicon Server BRI cards with
Asterisk myself and they work very well.


I concur, I have a Eicon DIVA single port BRI card and it works very 
well.


Cosmin, if you want to use it for Fax traffic as well make sure you do 
*not* get a V-BRI card. Those will not do Fax.


jens



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Re: [asterisk-users] About BRI / ISDN hardware. What to buy?

2007-01-18 Thread Cosmin Prund
How about the Digium Wildcard B410P card? It seems to be Digium, it 
has hardware echo cancel and I can buy this in Romania. Is this card any 
good?


Cosmin Prund wrote:

Hello everyone.

I need a BRI ISDN card that works in Romania. I already have one of 
the Cologne HFC-S PCI cards and it doesn't work right, it's junk. I 
get wy too much echo using it. I'm now shopping for a better 
card. Can anyone recommend me a card that fits the following:


(a) Costs less then $1000 / 750 euro
(b) Has one or (preferably) two ISDN S0 interfaces.
(c) Easy to set up.
(d) Drivers offer proper echo-canceling OR has an hardware echo 
canceler. I might increase the $1000 a bit if I can get good hardware 
echo canceler...


Thanks,
Cosmin Prund
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Re: [asterisk-users] About BRI / ISDN hardware. What to buy?

2007-01-18 Thread Alberto Pastore

Jens Vagelpohl ha scritto:

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On 18 Jan 2007, at 18:31, Patrick wrote:

I think http://www.melware.de carries the Eicon Server ISDN cards which
have hardware echo cancellation. They are also the author of the
chan_capi driver for Asterisk. I use the Eicon Server BRI cards with
Asterisk myself and they work very well.


I concur, I have a Eicon DIVA single port BRI card and it works very 
well.


Cosmin, if you want to use it for Fax traffic as well make sure you do 
*not* get a V-BRI card. Those will not do Fax.


jens



Tried almost all cards (Junghanns, Sangoma, Beronet, some hfc-based oem
cards, Eicon Diva Server).

Eicon is expensive but is *REALLY* worth it.
The other cards are just a waste of money (even if little money).

If you want a reliable PBX (who doesn't want it?),
Diva Server cards are the definitive choice.

The best card ever.
Zero echo problems, superb hardware echo cancellation.
Top reliability.
Excellent FAX support with Hylafax (only cards with builtin DSPs,
that is, NOT the V-series, as pointed out by Jens).

Easy driver installation and powerful utilities/configuration tools.


I tested BRI-2M, 4BRI-8M, PRI-30M on several installations,
even older 1.0 version cards (PCI 5v only) just work great.

I use diva server drivers  software source rpm from Eicon,
chan_capi from www.melware.org (0.7.1) on asterisk 1.2.14
(kernel 2.6.17.3). We've deployed more than 40 PBX (from 1 bri
to 8 bri) without a flaw.

I'm only a little bit annoyed about not being able to take
advantage of the onboard DSPs to perform audio transcoding,
because
of the lack of a suitable asterisk driver
(the cards themselves support hardware gsm/g726 codecs,
for instance).

Alberto.

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Re: [asterisk-users] About BRI / ISDN hardware. What to buy?

2007-01-18 Thread Zoilo Gomez

We are using Sirrix (http://www.sirrix.com).

4* BRI for app. € 550.

Works fine; has echo cancellation as well.

Cosmin Prund wrote:


Hello everyone.

I need a BRI ISDN card that works in Romania. I already have one of 
the Cologne HFC-S PCI cards and it doesn't work right, it's junk. I 
get wy too much echo using it. I'm now shopping for a better 
card. Can anyone recommend me a card that fits the following:


(a) Costs less then $1000 / 750 euro
(b) Has one or (preferably) two ISDN S0 interfaces.
(c) Easy to set up.
(d) Drivers offer proper echo-canceling OR has an hardware echo 
canceler. I might increase the $1000 a bit if I can get good hardware 
echo canceler...


Thanks,
Cosmin Prund
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Re: [asterisk-users] About BRI / ISDN hardware. What to buy?

2007-01-18 Thread Alberto Pastore

Cosmin Prund ha scritto:

I do not care about fax. I just want a good VOICE card.

Can someone please give a price quote for this card, give or take 10%? 
I just spent 5 minutes filling in a really long form on a shopping web 
site to get a price quote, only to find my account needs to be 
manually activated before I can see the price! That's *STUPID*. If I 
have a choice, I'll buy it from somewhere else...


BTW, check out on eBay
(search for diva server)
you could make good bargains.

Alberto.
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Re: [asterisk-users] About BRI / ISDN hardware. What to buy?

2007-01-18 Thread Ex Vitorino

On 1/18/07, Cosmin Prund [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

How about the Digium Wildcard B410P card? It seems to be Digium, it
has hardware echo cancel and I can buy this in Romania. Is this card any
good?


 ...well, it's essentially a 4 port HFC based card with builtin
 HW echo canceler.

 I'd say if Digium backs it up, it should be reasonable...

 (note: I'm running a 4 port HFC from beroNet perfectly fine)

 Good Luck,
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Re: [asterisk-users] About BRI / ISDN hardware. What to buy?

2007-01-18 Thread Dave Cotton
On Thu, 2007-01-18 at 20:13 +0200, Cosmin Prund wrote:
 How about the Digium Wildcard B410P card? It seems to be Digium, it 
 has hardware echo cancel and I can buy this in Romania. Is this card any 
 good?
 

Well I hope so, I'm installing my first one next week.

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Re: [asterisk-users] About BRI / ISDN hardware. What to buy?

2007-01-18 Thread Cosmin Prund
I finally found a price tag for the darn thing, at around 500 euros I 
can handle it.
Qustion: Do they behave properly if I've got an other Digium TDM400 card 
in the system? How about installing two cards in the same server?
At the moment I've only got 1 ISDN line plus a few analog lines going 
into the TDM but in the very near future we might want to get a second ISDN.


Alberto Pastore wrote:

Jens Vagelpohl ha scritto:

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On 18 Jan 2007, at 18:31, Patrick wrote:

I think http://www.melware.de carries the Eicon Server ISDN cards which
have hardware echo cancellation. They are also the author of the
chan_capi driver for Asterisk. I use the Eicon Server BRI cards with
Asterisk myself and they work very well.


I concur, I have a Eicon DIVA single port BRI card and it works very 
well.


Cosmin, if you want to use it for Fax traffic as well make sure you 
do *not* get a V-BRI card. Those will not do Fax.


jens



Tried almost all cards (Junghanns, Sangoma, Beronet, some hfc-based oem
cards, Eicon Diva Server).

Eicon is expensive but is *REALLY* worth it.
The other cards are just a waste of money (even if little money).

If you want a reliable PBX (who doesn't want it?),
Diva Server cards are the definitive choice.

The best card ever.
Zero echo problems, superb hardware echo cancellation.
Top reliability.
Excellent FAX support with Hylafax (only cards with builtin DSPs,
that is, NOT the V-series, as pointed out by Jens).

Easy driver installation and powerful utilities/configuration tools.


I tested BRI-2M, 4BRI-8M, PRI-30M on several installations,
even older 1.0 version cards (PCI 5v only) just work great.

I use diva server drivers  software source rpm from Eicon,
chan_capi from www.melware.org (0.7.1) on asterisk 1.2.14
(kernel 2.6.17.3). We've deployed more than 40 PBX (from 1 bri
to 8 bri) without a flaw.

I'm only a little bit annoyed about not being able to take
advantage of the onboard DSPs to perform audio transcoding,
because
of the lack of a suitable asterisk driver
(the cards themselves support hardware gsm/g726 codecs,
for instance).

Alberto.

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Re: [asterisk-users] About BRI / ISDN hardware. What to buy?

2007-01-18 Thread Armin Schindler
On Thu, 18 Jan 2007, Alberto Pastore wrote:
 I tested BRI-2M, 4BRI-8M, PRI-30M on several installations,
 even older 1.0 version cards (PCI 5v only) just work great.
 
 I use diva server drivers  software source rpm from Eicon,
 chan_capi from www.melware.org (0.7.1) on asterisk 1.2.14
 (kernel 2.6.17.3). We've deployed more than 40 PBX (from 1 bri
 to 8 bri) without a flaw.
 
 I'm only a little bit annoyed about not being able to take
 advantage of the onboard DSPs to perform audio transcoding,
 because
 of the lack of a suitable asterisk driver
 (the cards themselves support hardware gsm/g726 codecs,
 for instance).

Sorry for that ;-) chan-capi already has rtp code to select one
codec using also DSPs anti-jitter buffer. It is not fully tested and the 
full support for all codecs is still missing.
Also, full conferencing using the DSPs is in progress.


Armin
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Re: [asterisk-users] About BRI / ISDN hardware. What to buy?

2007-01-18 Thread Jens Vagelpohl

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On 18 Jan 2007, at 19:49, Cosmin Prund wrote:

I finally found a price tag for the darn thing, at around 500 euros  
I can handle it.
Qustion: Do they behave properly if I've got an other Digium TDM400  
card in the system? How about installing two cards in the same server?
At the moment I've only got 1 ISDN line plus a few analog lines  
going into the TDM but in the very near future we might want to get  
a second ISDN.


I only run a single card in my system because I don't need more ;)

jens



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Re: [asterisk-users] About BRI / ISDN hardware. What to buy?

2007-01-18 Thread Armin Schindler
On Thu, 18 Jan 2007, Cosmin Prund wrote:
 I finally found a price tag for the darn thing, at around 500 euros I can
 handle it.
 Qustion: Do they behave properly if I've got an other Digium TDM400 card in
 the system? How about installing two cards in the same server?
 At the moment I've only got 1 ISDN line plus a few analog lines going into the
 TDM but in the very near future we might want to get a second ISDN.

The DIVA Server cards and its driver supports multiple cards. As long as 
other cards behave correctly on the bus, I don't see any problem here.

Armin
 
 Alberto Pastore wrote:
  Jens Vagelpohl ha scritto:
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   On 18 Jan 2007, at 18:31, Patrick wrote:
I think http://www.melware.de carries the Eicon Server ISDN cards
which
have hardware echo cancellation. They are also the author of the
chan_capi driver for Asterisk. I use the Eicon Server BRI cards
with
Asterisk myself and they work very well.
   
   I concur, I have a Eicon DIVA single port BRI card and it works very
   well.
   
   Cosmin, if you want to use it for Fax traffic as well make sure you
   do *not* get a V-BRI card. Those will not do Fax.
   
   jens
   
  
  Tried almost all cards (Junghanns, Sangoma, Beronet, some hfc-based oem
  cards, Eicon Diva Server).
  
  Eicon is expensive but is *REALLY* worth it.
  The other cards are just a waste of money (even if little money).
  
  If you want a reliable PBX (who doesn't want it?),
  Diva Server cards are the definitive choice.
  
  The best card ever.
  Zero echo problems, superb hardware echo cancellation.
  Top reliability.
  Excellent FAX support with Hylafax (only cards with builtin DSPs,
  that is, NOT the V-series, as pointed out by Jens).
  
  Easy driver installation and powerful utilities/configuration tools.
  
  
  I tested BRI-2M, 4BRI-8M, PRI-30M on several installations,
  even older 1.0 version cards (PCI 5v only) just work great.
  
  I use diva server drivers  software source rpm from Eicon,
  chan_capi from www.melware.org (0.7.1) on asterisk 1.2.14
  (kernel 2.6.17.3). We've deployed more than 40 PBX (from 1 bri
  to 8 bri) without a flaw.
  
  I'm only a little bit annoyed about not being able to take
  advantage of the onboard DSPs to perform audio transcoding,
  because
  of the lack of a suitable asterisk driver
  (the cards themselves support hardware gsm/g726 codecs,
  for instance).
  
  Alberto.
  
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Re: [asterisk-users] About BRI / ISDN hardware. What to buy?

2007-01-18 Thread alberto
On Gio, Gennaio 18, 2007 20:16, Armin Schindler wrote:

 Sorry for that ;-) chan-capi already has rtp code to select one
 codec using also DSPs anti-jitter buffer. It is not fully tested and the
 full support for all codecs is still missing. Also, full conferencing
 using the DSPs is in progress.


 Armin

Wow!
Well, maybe annoyed was the wrong term, as I don't
really-really miss the transcoding feature.
Let's just say it would be better to have it.
Surely, I will test any test release I can put my hands on.
Keep up with the good work!
Thanks,
Alberto.

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Re: [asterisk-users] About BRI / ISDN hardware. What to buy?

2007-01-18 Thread alberto
On Gio, Gennaio 18, 2007 20:44, Armin Schindler wrote:
 On Thu, 18 Jan 2007, Cosmin Prund wrote:

 I finally found a price tag for the darn thing, at around 500 euros I
 can handle it. Qustion: Do they behave properly if I've got an other
 Digium TDM400 card in
 the system? How about installing two cards in the same server? At the
 moment I've only got 1 ISDN line plus a few analog lines going into the
  TDM but in the very near future we might want to get a second ISDN.


 The DIVA Server cards and its driver supports multiple cards. As long as
 other cards behave correctly on the bus, I don't see any problem here.

 Armin


I'm not aware of any conflict between Digium TDM and Diva Server,
although I did not test that configuration.

Anyway, I've set up some asterisk boxes with 2/3 DIVA-2M, even
one with a Diva BRI-2M 1.0 and a DIVA BRI-2M 2.0 in the same PC,
as well as one server with two DIVA 4BRI-8M 1.0 in it.
Whe you run Eicon Config utility,
the software recognizes instantly all cards  models, and numbers
each port sequentially, so that you can access them in asterisk
individually or as a group by properly configuring chan-capi
via capi.conf and Dial().

Alberto.


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