Re: [asterisk-users] Asterisk 10/1.6.1 and Dahdi/Libpri compatilities in BRI /PtmP

2012-06-27 Thread Olivier
2012/6/26, Richard Mudgett rmudg...@digium.com:
  This is the option I will try.
  I'll report my findings here.

 My findings, after setting layer1_presence=ignore in chan_dahdi.conf
 are :

   == Starting D-Channel on span 1
   == Starting D-Channel on span 2
   == Primary D-Channel on span 1 up
   == Primary D-Channel on span 2 up
 foo*CLI pri show spans
 PRI span 1/0: Up, Active
 PRI span 2/0: In Alarm, Down, Active
 foo*CLI pri show spans
 PRI span 1/0: In Alarm, Down, Active
 PRI span 2/0: Down, Active
 foo*CLI pri show spans
 PRI span 1/0: Down, Active
 PRI span 2/0: Down, Active
 foo*CLI pri show spans
 PRI span 1/0: Down, Active
 PRI span 2/0: Down, Active


 So basically, pri show spans still reports lines being down, though
 they are not.

 The pri show spans command is not useful for PTMP lines if the *telco*
 brings layer 2 and layer 1 down while idle.  These lines really are down.
 The *only* difference between an unplugged line and layer 1 being down is
 that they come back up on demand.

Do you imply that instead of being afraid of the word Down presence,
I should stand assured by
the word Active presence, the later one meaning this line can be
back up on demand ?

What would the wording for such situation in 1.4.13, with these layer
1 and 2 features ?
Still something like Down, Active ?
And what about using something more specific like Energy save, Active ?

What surprised me a lot is the speed with which each line is put in
energy save mode : a line remainded up during 20s or so and then put
down for a while.



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Re: [asterisk-users] Asterisk 10/1.6.1 and Dahdi/Libpri compatilities in BRI /PtmP

2012-06-27 Thread Richard Mudgett
   This is the option I will try.
   I'll report my findings here.
 
  My findings, after setting layer1_presence=ignore in
  chan_dahdi.conf
  are :
 
== Starting D-Channel on span 1
== Starting D-Channel on span 2
== Primary D-Channel on span 1 up
== Primary D-Channel on span 2 up
  foo*CLI pri show spans
  PRI span 1/0: Up, Active
  PRI span 2/0: In Alarm, Down, Active
  foo*CLI pri show spans
  PRI span 1/0: In Alarm, Down, Active
  PRI span 2/0: Down, Active
  foo*CLI pri show spans
  PRI span 1/0: Down, Active
  PRI span 2/0: Down, Active
  foo*CLI pri show spans
  PRI span 1/0: Down, Active
  PRI span 2/0: Down, Active
 
 
  So basically, pri show spans still reports lines being down,
  though
  they are not.
 
  The pri show spans command is not useful for PTMP lines if the
  *telco*
  brings layer 2 and layer 1 down while idle.  These lines really are
  down.
  The *only* difference between an unplugged line and layer 1 being
  down is
  that they come back up on demand.
 
 Do you imply that instead of being afraid of the word Down
 presence,
 I should stand assured by
 the word Active presence, the later one meaning this line can be
 back up on demand ?

For your PTMP setup, the only useful information pri show spans is
going to give you is the fact that the span is configured.

PRI span v/w: x, y, z
v = span number
w = span D channel index (Will be non-zero if there is more than one
D channel per span. (NFAS redundant D channel setup))
x = Can be: In Alarm (Layer 1 down) or not present if layer 1 up
y = Can be: Down (Layer 2 down), Up (Layer 2 up)
z = Can be: Active (This D channel is the active NFAS D channel
or only D channel), Standby (This D channel is in backup standby
mode for NFAS)

 What would the wording for such situation in 1.4.13, with these layer
 1 and 2 features ?
 Still something like Down, Active ?
 And what about using something more specific like Energy save,
 Active ?

The layer1_presence option just causes Asterisk to ignore layer 1 alarms
from DADHI on the span when considering the ability of the B channels
to be usable for outgoing and incoming calls.  The option only has an
effect on PTMP lines because some telcos drop layer 1 for power saving
reasons.  When in power saving mode, you will not be able to tell if the
line is out of service until you attempt to make a call.

The layer2_persistence option causes libpri to bring layer 2 back up when
the telco drops it.  Because layer 2 is not allowed to remain down, the
telco cannot bring layer 1 down.  Some telcos may have an issue with this
behavior because the line cannot go into power saving mode.

 What surprised me a lot is the speed with which each line is put in
 energy save mode : a line remainded up during 20s or so and then put
 down for a while.

The line will come back up on demand in less than a second.

Richard

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Re: [asterisk-users] Asterisk 10/1.6.1 and Dahdi/Libpri compatilities in BRI /PtmP

2012-06-26 Thread Olivier
2012/6/22, Olivier oza_4...@yahoo.fr:
 2012/6/21, Richard Mudgett rmudg...@digium.com:
 My previous message was incomplete.


 On thing to note is I had to forbid hfcmulti in modprobe.d in the
 second box to comply with a warning from dahdi. Without that, I could
 see this line in the output of lsmod:
 mISDN-core  hfcmulti


 1. What is the root cause that makes a board change its sync source ?
 How can I check this ?

 I would think layer 1 going down.
 I'm aware of this energy save mode.
 What surprises me a bit is the frequency with which this happens: a
 rough estimee is 60s or less before the line going down.

 Is there a practical way to double check that ? Using pri debug ?
 core set debug ?


  Many European telcos for BRI PTMP lines
 drop layer 2 and then layer 1 to conserve power.

 Is the switching of clock sources causing a problem?

 Fortunately, beside having the log files cluttered with Alarm
 messages, the system is working ok.

 2.  How can I get rid of these alarms ?

 See the chan_dahdi.conf.sample file about the following options.

 You could use the layer1_presence option to make Asterisk ignore those
 alarms.

 This is the option I will try.
 I'll report my findings here.

My findings, after setting layer1_presence=ignore in chan_dahdi.conf are :

  == Starting D-Channel on span 1
  == Starting D-Channel on span 2
  == Primary D-Channel on span 1 up
  == Primary D-Channel on span 2 up
foo*CLI pri show spans
PRI span 1/0: Up, Active
PRI span 2/0: In Alarm, Down, Active
foo*CLI pri show spans
PRI span 1/0: In Alarm, Down, Active
PRI span 2/0: Down, Active
foo*CLI pri show spans
PRI span 1/0: Down, Active
PRI span 2/0: Down, Active
foo*CLI pri show spans
PRI span 1/0: Down, Active
PRI span 2/0: Down, Active


So basically, pri show spans still reports lines being down, though
they are not.
So, my next option is to downgrade libpri to 1.4.10.2 and hope for a
better reporting.


 You could use the layer2_persistence option to keep layer 2 up.  To use
 this option however, requires using libpri SVN 1.4 branch code as current
 released versions do not support the option.
 I was aware of this improvement and I can't wait to see it published.

  Using the layer2_persistence
 option restores behavior that was removed for better Q.921 conformance
 for
 PTMP after libpri v1.4.10.2 and is why you are seeing a behavior
 difference
 between versions.

 So, in a way, a better confiormance to Q.921 introduced the
 requirement to explicitely ignore Layer1 status changes (in
 BRI/TE/PtmP) in chan_dahdi.conf.

 Though these layer1 and layer2 settings belongs to Asterisk's
 chan_dahdi.conf file, maybe an UPGRADE.txt file inside libpri
 directory would be useful to let sysadmins access to this information.

 What about adding an UPGRADE.txt in libpri ?


 3. Shall I report this ?

 It is normal with BRI PTMP lines.  It is also the reason for the
 layer1_presence and layer2_persistence options.

 4. Waht would you suggest ?

 Regards



 2012/6/21, Olivier oza_4...@yahoo.fr:
  Hi,
 
  After an upgrade, I discovered yesterday strange things I would
  like
  to share here.
 
  Basically, I'me comparing platforms:
  The first one is a 2.6.26 (Debian Lenny) platform, with Asterisk
  1.6.1.18, Libpri 1.4.10.2, Dahdi revision 8853 (must be between 2.3
  and 2.5, I think).
  The second one is a 2.6.32 (Debian Squeeze) platform, with Asterisk
  10.5.1, Libpri 1.4.12, Dahdi 2.6.1.
  Both are connected to telco BRI lines in TE/PtmP mode through a
  Junghanns QuadBRI board (wcb4xxp driver).
  Both handle incoming and outgoing calls correctly, as far as I can
  tell.
 
  But on the second one, though working fine, Dahdi keeps showing
  alarm
  messages such as:
  [71765.784120] wcb4xxp :01:0e.0: new card sync source: port 1
  [71767.484151] wcb4xxp :01:0e.0: new card sync source: port 1
  [71771.184119] wcb4xxp :01:0e.0: new card sync source: port 2
  [71794.184164] wcb4xxp :01:0e.0: new card sync source: port 1
 
  and pri show spans mostly (but not always) report worrying
  status:
  PRI span 1/0: Down, Active
  PRI span 2/0: In Alarm, Down, Active
 
  On the first box pri show spans constantly reports the line is
  up.
 
  On thing to note is I had to forbid hfcmulti in modprobe.d in the
  second box to comply with a warning from dahdi. Without that, I
  could
  see this line in the output of lsmod:
  mISDN-core

 Both mISDN and DAHDI have drivers for your BRI card.  Only one of them
 should be loaded.  Since you are using DAHDI and not mISDN, you should
 load the DAHDI version.

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Re: [asterisk-users] Asterisk 10/1.6.1 and Dahdi/Libpri compatilities in BRI /PtmP

2012-06-26 Thread Olivier
As basically Asterisk 1.8 requires libpri1.4.11 and up, I had to
downgrade Asterisk to 1.6 and libpri to 1.4.10.2 to get pri show
spans working back again.

Having a 1.4.13 published  with complete PtmP support will be much appreciated.

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Re: [asterisk-users] Asterisk 10/1.6.1 and Dahdi/Libpri compatilities in BRI /PtmP

2012-06-26 Thread Richard Mudgett
  This is the option I will try.
  I'll report my findings here.
 
 My findings, after setting layer1_presence=ignore in chan_dahdi.conf
 are :
 
   == Starting D-Channel on span 1
   == Starting D-Channel on span 2
   == Primary D-Channel on span 1 up
   == Primary D-Channel on span 2 up
 foo*CLI pri show spans
 PRI span 1/0: Up, Active
 PRI span 2/0: In Alarm, Down, Active
 foo*CLI pri show spans
 PRI span 1/0: In Alarm, Down, Active
 PRI span 2/0: Down, Active
 foo*CLI pri show spans
 PRI span 1/0: Down, Active
 PRI span 2/0: Down, Active
 foo*CLI pri show spans
 PRI span 1/0: Down, Active
 PRI span 2/0: Down, Active
 
 
 So basically, pri show spans still reports lines being down, though
 they are not.

The pri show spans command is not useful for PTMP lines if the *telco*
brings layer 2 and layer 1 down while idle.  These lines really are down.
The *only* difference between an unplugged line and layer 1 being down is
that they come back up on demand.

Richard

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Re: [asterisk-users] Asterisk 10/1.6.1 and Dahdi/Libpri compatilities in BRI /PtmP

2012-06-25 Thread Tzafrir Cohen
On Fri, Jun 22, 2012 at 08:07:54PM +1200, Alec Davis wrote:
 Have a look at the latest blacklist sample in dahdi trunk
 http://svnview.digium.com/svn/dahdi/tools/trunk/blacklist.sample?view=log
 
 file: blacklist.sample
 ...
 # Some mISDN drivers may try to attach to cards supported by DAHDI. If you
 # have a card which is *not* supported by DAHDI but supported by one of the
 # below drivers you should feel free to remove it from the blacklist below.
 blacklist hfcmulti

May collide with wcb4xxp

 blacklist netjet

May collide with wctdm and some other older drivers.

 blacklist hfcpci

May collide with zaphfc.

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Re: [asterisk-users] Asterisk 10/1.6.1 and Dahdi/Libpri compatilities in BRI /PtmP

2012-06-25 Thread Olivier
2012/6/25, Tzafrir Cohen tzafrir.co...@xorcom.com:
 On Fri, Jun 22, 2012 at 08:07:54PM +1200, Alec Davis wrote:
 Have a look at the latest blacklist sample in dahdi trunk
 http://svnview.digium.com/svn/dahdi/tools/trunk/blacklist.sample?view=log

 file: blacklist.sample
 ...
 # Some mISDN drivers may try to attach to cards supported by DAHDI. If
 you
 # have a card which is *not* supported by DAHDI but supported by one of
 the
 # below drivers you should feel free to remove it from the blacklist
 below.
 blacklist hfcmulti

 May collide with wcb4xxp

 blacklist netjet

 May collide with wctdm and some other older drivers.

 blacklist hfcpci

 May collide with zaphfc.

May I ask where I can get this zaphfc from ?
Is this the same refered to as vzaphfc  (see
http://www.voip-info.org/wiki/view/Asterisk+vzaphfc) ?



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Re: [asterisk-users] Asterisk 10/1.6.1 and Dahdi/Libpri compatilities in BRI /PtmP

2012-06-22 Thread Alec Davis
Have a look at the latest blacklist sample in dahdi trunk
http://svnview.digium.com/svn/dahdi/tools/trunk/blacklist.sample?view=log

file: blacklist.sample
...
# Some mISDN drivers may try to attach to cards supported by DAHDI. If you
# have a card which is *not* supported by DAHDI but supported by one of the
# below drivers you should feel free to remove it from the blacklist below.
blacklist hfcmulti
blacklist netjet
blacklist hfcpci

I had a similar issue after upgrading from lenny to squeeze :(
System wouldn't boot as udev tried to launch both wcb4xxp and hfcmulti, as I
didn't have wcb4xxp blacklisted as well as the others.
Only would boot after physically removing BRI card.

Alec

  

 -Original Message-
 From: asterisk-users-boun...@lists.digium.com 
 [mailto:asterisk-users-boun...@lists.digium.com] On Behalf Of Olivier
 Sent: Thursday, 21 June 2012 9:37 p.m.
 To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion
 Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] Asterisk 10/1.6.1 and 
 Dahdi/Libpri compatilities in BRI /PtmP
 
 My previous message was incomplete.
 
 
 On thing to note is I had to forbid hfcmulti in modprobe.d in 
 the second box to comply with a warning from dahdi. Without 
 that, I could see this line in the output of lsmod:
 mISDN-core  hfcmulti
 
 
 1. What is the root cause that makes a board change its sync source ?
 How can I check this ?
 2.  How can I get rid of these alarms ?
 3. Shall I report this ?
 4. Waht would you suggest ?
 
 Regards
 
 
 
 2012/6/21, Olivier oza_4...@yahoo.fr:
  Hi,
 
  After an upgrade, I discovered yesterday strange things I 
 would like 
  to share here.
 
  Basically, I'me comparing platforms:
  The first one is a 2.6.26 (Debian Lenny) platform, with Asterisk 
  1.6.1.18, Libpri 1.4.10.2, Dahdi revision 8853 (must be between 2.3 
  and 2.5, I think).
  The second one is a 2.6.32 (Debian Squeeze) platform, with Asterisk 
  10.5.1, Libpri 1.4.12, Dahdi 2.6.1.
  Both are connected to telco BRI lines in TE/PtmP mode through a 
  Junghanns QuadBRI board (wcb4xxp driver).
  Both handle incoming and outgoing calls correctly, as far 
 as I can tell.
 
  But on the second one, though working fine, Dahdi keeps 
 showing alarm 
  messages such as:
  [71765.784120] wcb4xxp :01:0e.0: new card sync source: port 1 
  [71767.484151] wcb4xxp :01:0e.0: new card sync source: port 1 
  [71771.184119] wcb4xxp :01:0e.0: new card sync source: port 2 
  [71794.184164] wcb4xxp :01:0e.0: new card sync source: port 1
 
  and pri show spans mostly (but not always) report worrying status:
  PRI span 1/0: Down, Active
  PRI span 2/0: In Alarm, Down, Active
 
  On the first box pri show spans constantly reports the line is up.
 
  On thing to note is I had to forbid hfcmulti in modprobe.d in the 
  second box to comply with a warning from dahdi. Without 
 that, I could 
  see this line in the output of lsmod:
  mISDN-core
 
 
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Re: [asterisk-users] Asterisk 10/1.6.1 and Dahdi/Libpri compatilities in BRI /PtmP

2012-06-22 Thread Olivier
2012/6/21, Richard Mudgett rmudg...@digium.com:
 My previous message was incomplete.


 On thing to note is I had to forbid hfcmulti in modprobe.d in the
 second box to comply with a warning from dahdi. Without that, I could
 see this line in the output of lsmod:
 mISDN-core  hfcmulti


 1. What is the root cause that makes a board change its sync source ?
 How can I check this ?

 I would think layer 1 going down.
I'm aware of this energy save mode.
What surprises me a bit is the frequency with which this happens: a
rough estimee is 60s or less before the line going down.

Is there a practical way to double check that ? Using pri debug ?
core set debug ?


  Many European telcos for BRI PTMP lines
 drop layer 2 and then layer 1 to conserve power.

 Is the switching of clock sources causing a problem?

Fortunately, beside having the log files cluttered with Alarm
messages, the system is working ok.

 2.  How can I get rid of these alarms ?

 See the chan_dahdi.conf.sample file about the following options.

 You could use the layer1_presence option to make Asterisk ignore those
 alarms.

This is the option I will try.
I'll report my findings here.

 You could use the layer2_persistence option to keep layer 2 up.  To use
 this option however, requires using libpri SVN 1.4 branch code as current
 released versions do not support the option.
I was aware of this improvement and I can't wait to see it published.

  Using the layer2_persistence
 option restores behavior that was removed for better Q.921 conformance for
 PTMP after libpri v1.4.10.2 and is why you are seeing a behavior difference
 between versions.

So, in a way, a better confiormance to Q.921 introduced the
requirement to explicitely ignore Layer1 status changes (in
BRI/TE/PtmP) in chan_dahdi.conf.

Though these layer1 and layer2 settings belongs to Asterisk's
chan_dahdi.conf file, maybe an UPGRADE.txt file inside libpri
directory would be useful to let sysadmins access to this information.

What about adding an UPGRADE.txt in libpri ?


 3. Shall I report this ?

 It is normal with BRI PTMP lines.  It is also the reason for the
 layer1_presence and layer2_persistence options.

 4. Waht would you suggest ?

 Regards



 2012/6/21, Olivier oza_4...@yahoo.fr:
  Hi,
 
  After an upgrade, I discovered yesterday strange things I would
  like
  to share here.
 
  Basically, I'me comparing platforms:
  The first one is a 2.6.26 (Debian Lenny) platform, with Asterisk
  1.6.1.18, Libpri 1.4.10.2, Dahdi revision 8853 (must be between 2.3
  and 2.5, I think).
  The second one is a 2.6.32 (Debian Squeeze) platform, with Asterisk
  10.5.1, Libpri 1.4.12, Dahdi 2.6.1.
  Both are connected to telco BRI lines in TE/PtmP mode through a
  Junghanns QuadBRI board (wcb4xxp driver).
  Both handle incoming and outgoing calls correctly, as far as I can
  tell.
 
  But on the second one, though working fine, Dahdi keeps showing
  alarm
  messages such as:
  [71765.784120] wcb4xxp :01:0e.0: new card sync source: port 1
  [71767.484151] wcb4xxp :01:0e.0: new card sync source: port 1
  [71771.184119] wcb4xxp :01:0e.0: new card sync source: port 2
  [71794.184164] wcb4xxp :01:0e.0: new card sync source: port 1
 
  and pri show spans mostly (but not always) report worrying
  status:
  PRI span 1/0: Down, Active
  PRI span 2/0: In Alarm, Down, Active
 
  On the first box pri show spans constantly reports the line is
  up.
 
  On thing to note is I had to forbid hfcmulti in modprobe.d in the
  second box to comply with a warning from dahdi. Without that, I
  could
  see this line in the output of lsmod:
  mISDN-core

 Both mISDN and DAHDI have drivers for your BRI card.  Only one of them
 should be loaded.  Since you are using DAHDI and not mISDN, you should
 load the DAHDI version.

 Richard

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Re: [asterisk-users] Asterisk 10/1.6.1 and Dahdi/Libpri compatilities in BRI /PtmP

2012-06-22 Thread Olivier
2012/6/22, Alec Davis siva...@paradise.net.nz:
 Have a look at the latest blacklist sample in dahdi trunk
 http://svnview.digium.com/svn/dahdi/tools/trunk/blacklist.sample?view=log

 file: blacklist.sample
 ...
 # Some mISDN drivers may try to attach to cards supported by DAHDI. If you
 # have a card which is *not* supported by DAHDI but supported by one of the
 # below drivers you should feel free to remove it from the blacklist below.
 blacklist hfcmulti
 blacklist netjet
 blacklist hfcpci

I didn't know about the later two : thanks for sharing this.
May I add that Linux automatically  allocates hfc4s8s_l1 driver to
Junghanns OctoBRI cards which are supported by Dahdi, so I add to
blacklist them in the past.

This shows me I should learn :
- how Linux 2.6.32 (and above) detects PCI boards and allocates them
to mISDN (the one included, I think, in the kernel itself)
- where to find up-to-date data listing telephony cards either
supported by Dahdi or mISDN


 I had a similar issue after upgrading from lenny to squeeze :(
 System wouldn't boot as udev tried to launch both wcb4xxp and hfcmulti, as
 I
 didn't have wcb4xxp blacklisted as well as the others.
 Only would boot after physically removing BRI card.

I was a bit luckier thanks to default dahdi.blacklist.conf file.

 Alec



 -Original Message-
 From: asterisk-users-boun...@lists.digium.com
 [mailto:asterisk-users-boun...@lists.digium.com] On Behalf Of Olivier
 Sent: Thursday, 21 June 2012 9:37 p.m.
 To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion
 Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] Asterisk 10/1.6.1 and
 Dahdi/Libpri compatilities in BRI /PtmP

 My previous message was incomplete.


 On thing to note is I had to forbid hfcmulti in modprobe.d in
 the second box to comply with a warning from dahdi. Without
 that, I could see this line in the output of lsmod:
 mISDN-core  hfcmulti


 1. What is the root cause that makes a board change its sync source ?
 How can I check this ?
 2.  How can I get rid of these alarms ?
 3. Shall I report this ?
 4. Waht would you suggest ?

 Regards



 2012/6/21, Olivier oza_4...@yahoo.fr:
  Hi,
 
  After an upgrade, I discovered yesterday strange things I
 would like
  to share here.
 
  Basically, I'me comparing platforms:
  The first one is a 2.6.26 (Debian Lenny) platform, with Asterisk
  1.6.1.18, Libpri 1.4.10.2, Dahdi revision 8853 (must be between 2.3
  and 2.5, I think).
  The second one is a 2.6.32 (Debian Squeeze) platform, with Asterisk
  10.5.1, Libpri 1.4.12, Dahdi 2.6.1.
  Both are connected to telco BRI lines in TE/PtmP mode through a
  Junghanns QuadBRI board (wcb4xxp driver).
  Both handle incoming and outgoing calls correctly, as far
 as I can tell.
 
  But on the second one, though working fine, Dahdi keeps
 showing alarm
  messages such as:
  [71765.784120] wcb4xxp :01:0e.0: new card sync source: port 1
  [71767.484151] wcb4xxp :01:0e.0: new card sync source: port 1
  [71771.184119] wcb4xxp :01:0e.0: new card sync source: port 2
  [71794.184164] wcb4xxp :01:0e.0: new card sync source: port 1
 
  and pri show spans mostly (but not always) report worrying status:
  PRI span 1/0: Down, Active
  PRI span 2/0: In Alarm, Down, Active
 
  On the first box pri show spans constantly reports the line is up.
 
  On thing to note is I had to forbid hfcmulti in modprobe.d in the
  second box to comply with a warning from dahdi. Without
 that, I could
  see this line in the output of lsmod:
  mISDN-core
 

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Re: [asterisk-users] Asterisk 10/1.6.1 and Dahdi/Libpri compatilities in BRI /PtmP

2012-06-22 Thread Michael Keuter

Am 21.06.2012 um 18:05 schrieb Richard Mudgett:

 My previous message was incomplete.
 
 
 On thing to note is I had to forbid hfcmulti in modprobe.d in the
 second box to comply with a warning from dahdi. Without that, I could
 see this line in the output of lsmod:
 mISDN-core  hfcmulti
 
 
 1. What is the root cause that makes a board change its sync source ?
 How can I check this ?
 
 I would think layer 1 going down.  Many European telcos for BRI PTMP lines
 drop layer 2 and then layer 1 to conserve power.
 
 Is the switching of clock sources causing a problem?
 
 2.  How can I get rid of these alarms ?
 
 See the chan_dahdi.conf.sample file about the following options.
 
 You could use the layer1_presence option to make Asterisk ignore those
 alarms.
 
 You could use the layer2_persistence option to keep layer 2 up.  To use
 this option however, requires using libpri SVN 1.4 branch code as current
 released versions do not support the option.  Using the layer2_persistence
 option restores behavior that was removed for better Q.921 conformance for
 PTMP after libpri v1.4.10.2 and is why you are seeing a behavior difference
 between versions.

Hi Richard,

any plans when libpri 1.4.13 will be released?

Michael

http://www.mksolutions.info






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[asterisk-users] Asterisk 10/1.6.1 and Dahdi/Libpri compatilities in BRI /PtmP

2012-06-21 Thread Olivier
Hi,

After an upgrade, I discovered yesterday strange things I would like
to share here.

Basically, I'me comparing platforms:
The first one is a 2.6.26 (Debian Lenny) platform, with Asterisk
1.6.1.18, Libpri 1.4.10.2, Dahdi revision 8853 (must be between 2.3
and 2.5, I think).
The second one is a 2.6.32 (Debian Squeeze) platform, with Asterisk
10.5.1, Libpri 1.4.12, Dahdi 2.6.1.
Both are connected to telco BRI lines in TE/PtmP mode through a
Junghanns QuadBRI board (wcb4xxp driver).
Both handle incoming and outgoing calls correctly, as far as I can tell.

But on the second one, though working fine, Dahdi keeps showing alarm
messages such as:
[71765.784120] wcb4xxp :01:0e.0: new card sync source: port 1
[71767.484151] wcb4xxp :01:0e.0: new card sync source: port 1
[71771.184119] wcb4xxp :01:0e.0: new card sync source: port 2
[71794.184164] wcb4xxp :01:0e.0: new card sync source: port 1

and pri show spans mostly (but not always) report worrying status:
PRI span 1/0: Down, Active
PRI span 2/0: In Alarm, Down, Active

On the first box pri show spans constantly reports the line is up.

On thing to note is I had to forbid hfcmulti in modprobe.d in the
second box to comply with a warning from dahdi. Without that, I could
see this line in the output of lsmod:
mISDN-core

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Re: [asterisk-users] Asterisk 10/1.6.1 and Dahdi/Libpri compatilities in BRI /PtmP

2012-06-21 Thread Olivier
My previous message was incomplete.


On thing to note is I had to forbid hfcmulti in modprobe.d in the
second box to comply with a warning from dahdi. Without that, I could
see this line in the output of lsmod:
mISDN-core  hfcmulti


1. What is the root cause that makes a board change its sync source ?
How can I check this ?
2.  How can I get rid of these alarms ?
3. Shall I report this ?
4. Waht would you suggest ?

Regards



2012/6/21, Olivier oza_4...@yahoo.fr:
 Hi,

 After an upgrade, I discovered yesterday strange things I would like
 to share here.

 Basically, I'me comparing platforms:
 The first one is a 2.6.26 (Debian Lenny) platform, with Asterisk
 1.6.1.18, Libpri 1.4.10.2, Dahdi revision 8853 (must be between 2.3
 and 2.5, I think).
 The second one is a 2.6.32 (Debian Squeeze) platform, with Asterisk
 10.5.1, Libpri 1.4.12, Dahdi 2.6.1.
 Both are connected to telco BRI lines in TE/PtmP mode through a
 Junghanns QuadBRI board (wcb4xxp driver).
 Both handle incoming and outgoing calls correctly, as far as I can tell.

 But on the second one, though working fine, Dahdi keeps showing alarm
 messages such as:
 [71765.784120] wcb4xxp :01:0e.0: new card sync source: port 1
 [71767.484151] wcb4xxp :01:0e.0: new card sync source: port 1
 [71771.184119] wcb4xxp :01:0e.0: new card sync source: port 2
 [71794.184164] wcb4xxp :01:0e.0: new card sync source: port 1

 and pri show spans mostly (but not always) report worrying status:
 PRI span 1/0: Down, Active
 PRI span 2/0: In Alarm, Down, Active

 On the first box pri show spans constantly reports the line is up.

 On thing to note is I had to forbid hfcmulti in modprobe.d in the
 second box to comply with a warning from dahdi. Without that, I could
 see this line in the output of lsmod:
 mISDN-core


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Re: [asterisk-users] Asterisk 10/1.6.1 and Dahdi/Libpri compatilities in BRI /PtmP

2012-06-21 Thread Richard Mudgett
 My previous message was incomplete.
 
 
 On thing to note is I had to forbid hfcmulti in modprobe.d in the
 second box to comply with a warning from dahdi. Without that, I could
 see this line in the output of lsmod:
 mISDN-core  hfcmulti
 
 
 1. What is the root cause that makes a board change its sync source ?
 How can I check this ?

I would think layer 1 going down.  Many European telcos for BRI PTMP lines
drop layer 2 and then layer 1 to conserve power.

Is the switching of clock sources causing a problem?

 2.  How can I get rid of these alarms ?

See the chan_dahdi.conf.sample file about the following options.

You could use the layer1_presence option to make Asterisk ignore those
alarms.

You could use the layer2_persistence option to keep layer 2 up.  To use
this option however, requires using libpri SVN 1.4 branch code as current
released versions do not support the option.  Using the layer2_persistence
option restores behavior that was removed for better Q.921 conformance for
PTMP after libpri v1.4.10.2 and is why you are seeing a behavior difference
between versions.

 3. Shall I report this ?

It is normal with BRI PTMP lines.  It is also the reason for the
layer1_presence and layer2_persistence options.

 4. Waht would you suggest ?
 
 Regards
 
 
 
 2012/6/21, Olivier oza_4...@yahoo.fr:
  Hi,
 
  After an upgrade, I discovered yesterday strange things I would
  like
  to share here.
 
  Basically, I'me comparing platforms:
  The first one is a 2.6.26 (Debian Lenny) platform, with Asterisk
  1.6.1.18, Libpri 1.4.10.2, Dahdi revision 8853 (must be between 2.3
  and 2.5, I think).
  The second one is a 2.6.32 (Debian Squeeze) platform, with Asterisk
  10.5.1, Libpri 1.4.12, Dahdi 2.6.1.
  Both are connected to telco BRI lines in TE/PtmP mode through a
  Junghanns QuadBRI board (wcb4xxp driver).
  Both handle incoming and outgoing calls correctly, as far as I can
  tell.
 
  But on the second one, though working fine, Dahdi keeps showing
  alarm
  messages such as:
  [71765.784120] wcb4xxp :01:0e.0: new card sync source: port 1
  [71767.484151] wcb4xxp :01:0e.0: new card sync source: port 1
  [71771.184119] wcb4xxp :01:0e.0: new card sync source: port 2
  [71794.184164] wcb4xxp :01:0e.0: new card sync source: port 1
 
  and pri show spans mostly (but not always) report worrying
  status:
  PRI span 1/0: Down, Active
  PRI span 2/0: In Alarm, Down, Active
 
  On the first box pri show spans constantly reports the line is
  up.
 
  On thing to note is I had to forbid hfcmulti in modprobe.d in the
  second box to comply with a warning from dahdi. Without that, I
  could
  see this line in the output of lsmod:
  mISDN-core

Both mISDN and DAHDI have drivers for your BRI card.  Only one of them
should be loaded.  Since you are using DAHDI and not mISDN, you should
load the DAHDI version.

Richard

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