Re: [asterisk-users] Asterisk and the Mitel SX 200 integration

2008-04-14 Thread Jay R. Ashworth
On Sun, Apr 13, 2008 at 11:30:26PM -0500, Doug wrote:
 At 21:08 4/11/2008, Alexander Lopez wrote:
  Jorge is correct you will not get the information need via FXO/FXS
  unless you program the Mitel to do DTMF inband. It is possible but a
  cludge of a fix at best. We have successfully integrated several Mitel
  SX200 and SX2000 switches via the PRI (preferred) or T1 using EM_Wink
  (works but you have delays while waiting for the winks. (wink, wink :-)
  ).
  
  The Mitel is rock-solid
 
 Until the floppy disk dies.  Then you have a
 huge doorstop and no phone system.  The floppy
 drives aren't easily replaceable.

Hint to the OP: this translates as go start searching for a spare
floppy disk drive *NOW*!  :-)

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Re: [asterisk-users] Asterisk and the Mitel SX 200 integration

2008-04-14 Thread Steven Kurylo
John covici wrote:
 OK, this is exactly what I would like to do, can you either write me
 on or off list for further details.  This would be the first baby step
 toward the 20th Century!!
I'd love some pointers on integrating * with a sx-200.  I have a system 
where a fork lift upgrade is impossible.  Ideally as we add new 
extensions, I'd like them to be in *, and have the mitel system know to 
route the calls correctly.  I have a manual for the sx and a few half 
baked thoughts (put the pstn on *, and have the mitel system send all 
unknown numbers to *.  Then * can route them properly to the outside 
world or to the new extensions), but it will be slow going.

Thanks.

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Re: [asterisk-users] Asterisk and the Mitel SX 200 integration

2008-04-13 Thread Doug
At 21:08 4/11/2008, Alexander Lopez wrote:
 Jorge is correct you will not get the information need via FXO/FXS
 unless you program the Mitel to do DTMF inband. It is possible but a
 cludge of a fix at best. We have successfully integrated several Mitel
 SX200 and SX2000 switches via the PRI (preferred) or T1 using EM_Wink
 (works but you have delays while waiting for the winks. (wink, wink :-)
 ).
 
 The Mitel is rock-solid

Until the floppy disk dies.  Then you have a
huge doorstop and no phone system.  The floppy
drives aren't easily replaceable.

We and the customer are anxiously awaiting the
day we can sell that SX-200 and the ActiveVoice
system to some poor unsuspecting souls.

An Asterisk box can be made out of high-quality
generic parts that are easily available.


 and depending on the size of the install a
 fork-lift replacement may not be desirable. I would start by replacing
 the VM (ActiveVoice) with and Asterisk box, you can give them unified
 messaging as well as a stable and current platform ( I have seen the
 Octel COV card catch on fire!!)
 
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:asterisk-users-
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jorge Mendoza
  Sent: Friday, April 11, 2008 8:32 PM
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Asterisk Users Mailing List -
 Non-Commercial
  Discussion
  Cc: Doug
  Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] Asterisk and the Mitel SX 200
 integration
 
  I second Doug advice. Migrate to Asterisk asap.
  We have several Asterisk auto attendant integrated with Mitel, even
  billing using the Mitel's smdr. But voicemail is different. The COV
 card
  emulate a SS4 phone and receive information needed for a voice mail
  system. With FXO/FXS ports is not possible receive such information.
 
  Jorge Mendoza
 
 
  John covici wrote:
   Yep, you guessed it, an activvoice system.  Anyway to make Asterisk
   act like that for a while?
  
   Thanks.
  
   on Friday 04/11/2008 Doug([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote
 At 17:32 4/11/2008, John covici wrote:
  Hi.  One of my clients has an old Mitel SX 200 with a separate
  computer doing the voicemail and auto attendant and integrated
 via
  a
  COV card which is in his case an ISA card!

 Is it an ActiveVoice system?

  We would all like to
  migrate to asterisk, but as a first step, can asterisk
 integrate
  into
  the Mitel, so it can serve as auto attendant and the voicemail
 for
  the
  extensions?

 We've got a client with the exact same setup.
 They have suffered long enough with this
 dinosaur.  They are in the process of going
 with an all-Asterisk system.

 You would probably make more money trying an
 intermediate step using the SX-200 and Asterisk,
 but it would be obviously more costly for them
 as well as prolong their misery.

 It's your call, but I would recommend getting
 away from 30 year old technology as fast as
 you can run.  The ActiveVoice system is a
 cantankerous 20 year old system in itself.

 You have just received 2 cents worth of advice
 for FREE!





  
  If this is successful we could gradually migrate extensions,
  particularly if we could get the Mitel to talk to asterisk via
 one
  of
  its t1 cards.
  
  Any assistance or experience along these lines would be
  appreciated.
  
  --
  Your life is like a penny.  You're going to lose it.  The
 question
  is:
  How do
  you spend it?
  
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[asterisk-users] Asterisk and the Mitel SX 200 integration

2008-04-11 Thread John covici
Hi.  One of my clients has an old Mitel SX 200 with a separate
computer doing the voicemail and auto attendant and integrated via a
COV card which is in his case an ISA card!  We would all like to
migrate to asterisk, but as a first step, can asterisk integrate into
the Mitel, so it can serve as auto attendant and the voicemail for the
extensions?  

If this is successful we could gradually migrate extensions,
particularly if we could get the Mitel to talk to asterisk via one of
its t1 cards.

Any assistance or experience along these lines would be appreciated.

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Re: [asterisk-users] Asterisk and the Mitel SX 200 integration

2008-04-11 Thread Doug
At 17:32 4/11/2008, John covici wrote:
 Hi.  One of my clients has an old Mitel SX 200 with a separate
 computer doing the voicemail and auto attendant and integrated via a
 COV card which is in his case an ISA card!

Is it an ActiveVoice system?

 We would all like to
 migrate to asterisk, but as a first step, can asterisk integrate into
 the Mitel, so it can serve as auto attendant and the voicemail for the
 extensions?

We've got a client with the exact same setup.
They have suffered long enough with this
dinosaur.  They are in the process of going
with an all-Asterisk system.

You would probably make more money trying an
intermediate step using the SX-200 and Asterisk,
but it would be obviously more costly for them
as well as prolong their misery.

It's your call, but I would recommend getting
away from 30 year old technology as fast as
you can run.  The ActiveVoice system is a
cantankerous 20 year old system in itself.

You have just received 2 cents worth of advice
for FREE!





 
 If this is successful we could gradually migrate extensions,
 particularly if we could get the Mitel to talk to asterisk via one of
 its t1 cards.
 
 Any assistance or experience along these lines would be appreciated.
 
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 How do
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Re: [asterisk-users] Asterisk and the Mitel SX 200 integration

2008-04-11 Thread John covici
Yep, you guessed it, an activvoice system.  Anyway to make Asterisk
act like that for a while?

Thanks.

on Friday 04/11/2008 Doug([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote
  At 17:32 4/11/2008, John covici wrote:
   Hi.  One of my clients has an old Mitel SX 200 with a separate
   computer doing the voicemail and auto attendant and integrated via a
   COV card which is in his case an ISA card!
  
  Is it an ActiveVoice system?
  
   We would all like to
   migrate to asterisk, but as a first step, can asterisk integrate into
   the Mitel, so it can serve as auto attendant and the voicemail for the
   extensions?
  
  We've got a client with the exact same setup.
  They have suffered long enough with this
  dinosaur.  They are in the process of going
  with an all-Asterisk system.
  
  You would probably make more money trying an
  intermediate step using the SX-200 and Asterisk,
  but it would be obviously more costly for them
  as well as prolong their misery.
  
  It's your call, but I would recommend getting
  away from 30 year old technology as fast as
  you can run.  The ActiveVoice system is a
  cantankerous 20 year old system in itself.
  
  You have just received 2 cents worth of advice
  for FREE!
  
  
  
  
  
   
   If this is successful we could gradually migrate extensions,
   particularly if we could get the Mitel to talk to asterisk via one of
   its t1 cards.
   
   Any assistance or experience along these lines would be appreciated.
   
   --
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   How do
   you spend it?
   
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Re: [asterisk-users] Asterisk and the Mitel SX 200 integration

2008-04-11 Thread Jorge Mendoza
I second Doug advice. Migrate to Asterisk asap.
We have several Asterisk auto attendant integrated with Mitel, even
billing using the Mitel's smdr. But voicemail is different. The COV card
emulate a SS4 phone and receive information needed for a voice mail
system. With FXO/FXS ports is not possible receive such information.

Jorge Mendoza


John covici wrote:
 Yep, you guessed it, an activvoice system.  Anyway to make Asterisk
 act like that for a while?

 Thanks.

 on Friday 04/11/2008 Doug([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote
   At 17:32 4/11/2008, John covici wrote:
Hi.  One of my clients has an old Mitel SX 200 with a separate
computer doing the voicemail and auto attendant and integrated via a
COV card which is in his case an ISA card!
   
   Is it an ActiveVoice system?
   
We would all like to
migrate to asterisk, but as a first step, can asterisk integrate into
the Mitel, so it can serve as auto attendant and the voicemail for the
extensions?
   
   We've got a client with the exact same setup.
   They have suffered long enough with this
   dinosaur.  They are in the process of going
   with an all-Asterisk system.
   
   You would probably make more money trying an
   intermediate step using the SX-200 and Asterisk,
   but it would be obviously more costly for them
   as well as prolong their misery.
   
   It's your call, but I would recommend getting
   away from 30 year old technology as fast as
   you can run.  The ActiveVoice system is a
   cantankerous 20 year old system in itself.
   
   You have just received 2 cents worth of advice
   for FREE!
   
   
   
   
   

If this is successful we could gradually migrate extensions,
particularly if we could get the Mitel to talk to asterisk via one of
its t1 cards.

Any assistance or experience along these lines would be appreciated.

--
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How do
you spend it?

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Re: [asterisk-users] Asterisk and the Mitel SX 200 integration

2008-04-11 Thread Alexander Lopez
Jorge is correct you will not get the information need via FXO/FXS
unless you program the Mitel to do DTMF inband. It is possible but a
cludge of a fix at best. We have successfully integrated several Mitel
SX200 and SX2000 switches via the PRI (preferred) or T1 using EM_Wink
(works but you have delays while waiting for the winks. (wink, wink :-)
).

The Mitel is rock-solid and depending on the size of the install a
fork-lift replacement may not be desirable. I would start by replacing
the VM (ActiveVoice) with and Asterisk box, you can give them unified
messaging as well as a stable and current platform ( I have seen the
Octel COV card catch on fire!!) 



 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:asterisk-users-
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jorge Mendoza
 Sent: Friday, April 11, 2008 8:32 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Asterisk Users Mailing List -
Non-Commercial
 Discussion
 Cc: Doug
 Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] Asterisk and the Mitel SX 200
integration
 
 I second Doug advice. Migrate to Asterisk asap.
 We have several Asterisk auto attendant integrated with Mitel, even
 billing using the Mitel's smdr. But voicemail is different. The COV
card
 emulate a SS4 phone and receive information needed for a voice mail
 system. With FXO/FXS ports is not possible receive such information.
 
 Jorge Mendoza
 
 
 John covici wrote:
  Yep, you guessed it, an activvoice system.  Anyway to make Asterisk
  act like that for a while?
 
  Thanks.
 
  on Friday 04/11/2008 Doug([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote
At 17:32 4/11/2008, John covici wrote:
 Hi.  One of my clients has an old Mitel SX 200 with a separate
 computer doing the voicemail and auto attendant and integrated
via
 a
 COV card which is in his case an ISA card!
   
Is it an ActiveVoice system?
   
 We would all like to
 migrate to asterisk, but as a first step, can asterisk
integrate
 into
 the Mitel, so it can serve as auto attendant and the voicemail
for
 the
 extensions?
   
We've got a client with the exact same setup.
They have suffered long enough with this
dinosaur.  They are in the process of going
with an all-Asterisk system.
   
You would probably make more money trying an
intermediate step using the SX-200 and Asterisk,
but it would be obviously more costly for them
as well as prolong their misery.
   
It's your call, but I would recommend getting
away from 30 year old technology as fast as
you can run.  The ActiveVoice system is a
cantankerous 20 year old system in itself.
   
You have just received 2 cents worth of advice
for FREE!
   
   
   
   
   
 
 If this is successful we could gradually migrate extensions,
 particularly if we could get the Mitel to talk to asterisk via
one
 of
 its t1 cards.
 
 Any assistance or experience along these lines would be
 appreciated.
 
 --
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question
 is:
 How do
 you spend it?
 
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Re: [asterisk-users] Asterisk and the Mitel SX 200 integration

2008-04-11 Thread John covici
OK, this is exactly what I would like to do, can you either write me
on or off list for further details.  This would be the first baby step
toward the 20th Century!!

on Friday 04/11/2008 Alexander Lopez([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote
  Jorge is correct you will not get the information need via FXO/FXS
  unless you program the Mitel to do DTMF inband. It is possible but a
  cludge of a fix at best. We have successfully integrated several Mitel
  SX200 and SX2000 switches via the PRI (preferred) or T1 using EM_Wink
  (works but you have delays while waiting for the winks. (wink, wink :-)
  ).
  
  The Mitel is rock-solid and depending on the size of the install a
  fork-lift replacement may not be desirable. I would start by replacing
  the VM (ActiveVoice) with and Asterisk box, you can give them unified
  messaging as well as a stable and current platform ( I have seen the
  Octel COV card catch on fire!!) 
  
  
  
   -Original Message-
   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:asterisk-users-
   [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jorge Mendoza
   Sent: Friday, April 11, 2008 8:32 PM
   To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Asterisk Users Mailing List -
  Non-Commercial
   Discussion
   Cc: Doug
   Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] Asterisk and the Mitel SX 200
  integration
   
   I second Doug advice. Migrate to Asterisk asap.
   We have several Asterisk auto attendant integrated with Mitel, even
   billing using the Mitel's smdr. But voicemail is different. The COV
  card
   emulate a SS4 phone and receive information needed for a voice mail
   system. With FXO/FXS ports is not possible receive such information.
   
   Jorge Mendoza
   
   
   John covici wrote:
Yep, you guessed it, an activvoice system.  Anyway to make Asterisk
act like that for a while?
   
Thanks.
   
on Friday 04/11/2008 Doug([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote
  At 17:32 4/11/2008, John covici wrote:
   Hi.  One of my clients has an old Mitel SX 200 with a separate
   computer doing the voicemail and auto attendant and integrated
  via
   a
   COV card which is in his case an ISA card!
 
  Is it an ActiveVoice system?
 
   We would all like to
   migrate to asterisk, but as a first step, can asterisk
  integrate
   into
   the Mitel, so it can serve as auto attendant and the voicemail
  for
   the
   extensions?
 
  We've got a client with the exact same setup.
  They have suffered long enough with this
  dinosaur.  They are in the process of going
  with an all-Asterisk system.
 
  You would probably make more money trying an
  intermediate step using the SX-200 and Asterisk,
  but it would be obviously more costly for them
  as well as prolong their misery.
 
  It's your call, but I would recommend getting
  away from 30 year old technology as fast as
  you can run.  The ActiveVoice system is a
  cantankerous 20 year old system in itself.
 
  You have just received 2 cents worth of advice
  for FREE!
 
 
 
 
 
   
   If this is successful we could gradually migrate extensions,
   particularly if we could get the Mitel to talk to asterisk via
  one
   of
   its t1 cards.
   
   Any assistance or experience along these lines would be
   appreciated.
   
   --
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  question
   is:
   How do
   you spend it?
   
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