Re: [asterisk-users] Asterisk as XMPP component. How to use it ?

2008-02-07 Thread Greg Oliver


On Feb 7, 2008, at 2:07 PM, Tzafrir Cohen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  
wrote:

> On Thu, Feb 07, 2008 at 07:53:12PM +, Ben Willcox wrote:
>> Olivier wrote:
>>> At the opposite, I think it could be useful for an Asterisk server  
>>> to
>>> act as XMPP User Activity provider (ie update XEP-0108 field with
>>> "on-the-phone" value).
>>> Do you agree ?
>>> Is there any XMPP client supporting User Activity ?
>>> Is Asterisk capable of getting or sending such User Activity  
>>> messages ?
>>
>> The Openfire XMPP server (http://www.igniterealtime.org/) has an
>> asterisk plugin which uses the manager interface to send 'On the  
>> phone'
>> status to XMPP clients. It works very well.
>
> Is that specific to that server?
>
> What would be needed to implement the same thing on a different  
> server?
> (that doesn't take 200MB of memory to boot)
>
> What about support in clients?
>

Yeah, that is bs for a server that requires a jdk and only sends 8k  
messages at most. ..
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Re: [asterisk-users] Asterisk as XMPP component. How to use it ?

2008-02-07 Thread Philippe Sultan
Hi Olivier,

> At the opposite, I think it could be useful for an Asterisk server to act as
> XMPP User Activity provider (ie update XEP-0108 field with "on-the-phone"
> value).
>  Do you agree ?

This is indeed a direction we should consider in order to relay call
and device state information to XMPP users. As those kind of messages
are exchanged via PEP (Personal Eventing via Pubsub), we'll have to
implement that too. But still, I'm not sure we can provide this kind
of presence information on behalf of XMPP users if we connect Asterisk
as a component.

On the other hand, by connecting Asterisk as a XMPP client, we could
easily pass call and device state information to that client's buddy
list. The main drawback of that method is that Asterisk needs to be
provided with the user password.

> Is there any XMPP client supporting User Activity ?

I know Psi supports PEP, not sure about User Activity though.

> Is Asterisk capable of getting or sending such User Activity messages ?

No.

Philippe

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Re: [asterisk-users] Asterisk as XMPP component. How to use it ?

2008-02-07 Thread Tzafrir Cohen
On Thu, Feb 07, 2008 at 07:53:12PM +, Ben Willcox wrote:
> Olivier wrote:
> > At the opposite, I think it could be useful for an Asterisk server to 
> > act as XMPP User Activity provider (ie update XEP-0108 field with 
> > "on-the-phone" value).
> > Do you agree ?
> > Is there any XMPP client supporting User Activity ?
> > Is Asterisk capable of getting or sending such User Activity messages ?
> 
> The Openfire XMPP server (http://www.igniterealtime.org/) has an 
> asterisk plugin which uses the manager interface to send 'On the phone' 
> status to XMPP clients. It works very well.

Is that specific to that server?

What would be needed to implement the same thing on a different server?
(that doesn't take 200MB of memory to boot)

What about support in clients?

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Re: [asterisk-users] Asterisk as XMPP component. How to use it ?

2008-02-07 Thread Ben Willcox
Olivier wrote:
> At the opposite, I think it could be useful for an Asterisk server to 
> act as XMPP User Activity provider (ie update XEP-0108 field with 
> "on-the-phone" value).
> Do you agree ?
> Is there any XMPP client supporting User Activity ?
> Is Asterisk capable of getting or sending such User Activity messages ?

The Openfire XMPP server (http://www.igniterealtime.org/) has an 
asterisk plugin which uses the manager interface to send 'On the phone' 
status to XMPP clients. It works very well.
It also has the capability to Pause and Unpause queue members depending 
on idle status, but that is very annoying and we turn that off!

Cheers,
Ben

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[asterisk-users] Asterisk as XMPP component. How to use it ?

2008-02-07 Thread Olivier
Hi,

Do you really think Presence should be used to forward call to voicemail ?
My feeling is forwarding incoming calls to voicemail should remain a
different task as you could wish to remain unavailable for chat and still
reachable by phone.
As I can't see a way to define Presence status such as "unavailable for chat
and phones", "unavailable for chat but available for phones" ..., I think
both things should be kept separate.

At the opposite, I think it could be useful for an Asterisk server to act as
XMPP User Activity provider (ie update XEP-0108 field with "on-the-phone"
value).
Do you agree ?
Is there any XMPP client supporting User Activity ?
Is Asterisk capable of getting or sending such User Activity messages ?

Regards
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