Re: [asterisk-users] Asterisk is not designed for University with largeuser base?
Hello, After a long time we had a meeting with our university's management and got a green light to have a proof of concept with open source telephony. Now I have to select the right software to experiment with... Up to now I thought of going with OpenSER for the masses and Asterisk for voicemail and other media related things. However, from reading around it seems like FreeSwitch can give me the benefits of both packages. Anyone has an experience with it? Thanks, __Yehavi: ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Asterisk is not designed for University with largeuser base?
This isn't really the right mailing list for that question. The answer, though, is, as always: it depends. Yehavi Bourvine wrote: Hello, After a long time we had a meeting with our university's management and got a green light to have a proof of concept with open source telephony. Now I have to select the right software to experiment with... Up to now I thought of going with OpenSER for the masses and Asterisk for voicemail and other media related things. However, from reading around it seems like FreeSwitch can give me the benefits of both packages. Anyone has an experience with it? Thanks, __Yehavi: ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users -- Alex Balashov Evariste Systems Web: http://www.evaristesys.com/ Tel: (+1) (678) 954-0670 Direct : (+1) (678) 954-0671 Mobile : (+1) (678) 237-1775 ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Asterisk is not designed for University with largeuser base?
About the database polling - i think for such a installation you could create something like a database to config files script - so not to use realtime. This should solve this problem. No need for that. There's rtcachefriends setting in sip.conf, and if you have to update user credentials from some interface, just issue sip prune realtime peer xxx trough manager. Also, in Asterisk 1.6 res_mysql driver can take advantage of MySQL master/slave setups, so You can distribute Your database load to separate read/write hosts. Regards, Atis -- Atis Lezdins, VoIP Project Manager / Developer, IQ Labs Inc, a...@iq-labs.net Skype: atis.lezdins Cell Phone: +371 28806004 Cell Phone: +1 800 7300689 Work phone: +1 800 7502835 ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Asterisk is not designed for University with largeuser base?
Asking about pepsi into the coke conference room will usually get everyone bubbly... From: asterisk-users-boun...@lists.digium.com [mailto:asterisk-users-boun...@lists.digium.com] On Behalf Of Yehavi Bourvine Sent: April-12-09 2:13 AM To: Vincent Li Cc: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion; us...@lists.opensips.org Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] Asterisk is not designed for University with largeuser base? Hello, After a long time we had a meeting with our university's management and got a green light to have a proof of concept with open source telephony. Now I have to select the right software to experiment with... Up to now I thought of going with OpenSER for the masses and Asterisk for voicemail and other media related things. However, from reading around it seems like FreeSwitch can give me the benefits of both packages. Anyone has an experience with it? Thanks, __Yehavi: ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Asterisk is not designed for University with largeuser base?
Hi, i do have a request for an installation with about 1800 sip extensions - as addon to a exisiting system - connected to it using qsig. The requirement here is also that the system should have SIP over TCP with TLS and SRTP (snom phones should get supported) I know there are patches out there to get this working - but have someone already used these patches with so large installations ? About the database polling - i think for such a installation you could create something like a database to config files script - so not to use realtime. This should solve this problem. What do you people think about using freeswitch to handle the sip extensions - do BLF/SLA/SRTP/SIP over TCP TLS - and use asterisk for interconnection to the other PBX - doing the rest. Have anyone here already tried freeswitch in such a combination ? regards, Wolfgang Am Donnerstag, den 19.03.2009, 08:08 +0200 schrieb Yehavi Bourvine: Hello, Sorry for the delay - was out of office. I also cross-posting it to OpenSIPS list. I have a small pilot (20-30 phones) which also does some sort of SIP to PRI transcode for our old PBX. The pilot is base on Asterisk and mostly Polycom-501 phones. It works quite well, but I have a few minor/missing issues: - I have the RPID patch, and unattended transfers fails with it. - No SLA, only BLF. I know there is SLA, but it is cumbersome to deploy. - Confference is limited to 3 participants. I guess I can do more with external server but didn't manage yet to make it working. - No busy dial again which is required by our users. Now, to the original issue: I tried adding 1000 extensions to the SIP database, and then use SIPP to send one REGISTER for each extension. After doing so Asterisk still worked, but it was continously accessing the database for all these extensions, just polling them. This raised a red flag to me, and I decided to check the following config: OpenSIPS/Kamailo/etc. as registrar and SIP switch for the phones, while using Asterisk only for media related issues (which is the common suggestion here). Now, I have new problems: - SLA works, but very fragile. - Not BLF, although I think it will be solve with the dialog handling on OpenSIPS 1.5 - Same confference and busy dial problem. Next week our management is going to decide (I hope...) how to proceed: Do nothing (stay with the Nortel as we are tight on budget), go to open source or to a commercial solution. Although a commercial solution allows me so sleep well at night, I am going to recommend the open source direction. If accepted, then I will continue the development and you'll hear me quite a lot here asking hard questions :-) BTW, If I didn't say so far: we have around 8,000 extensions on 4 Notel PBX'es, using around 10 PRI's to the world. Regards, __Yehavi: 2009/3/17 Vincent Li vincent.mc...@gmail.com On Tue, 17 Mar 2009, Yehavi Bourvine wrote: Hello' I am at the same situation as you. I also work at a university and we have over 8.000 extensions on a Nortel PBX. I also run a small Asterisk pilot. I am using a realtime users database and the main problem is that Aaterisk does too mcuh database access to inquire for the currently registered users. (I am using direct RTP path between the phones so this is not a limiting issue here). I am checking now a combination of OpenSIPS and Asterisk, where OpenSIPS will serve the phones and Asterisk the more complicate things (voicemail, transcoding, etc.). OpenSIPS still lacks some of Asterisk features, but they are being worked on. Regards, __Yehavi: Hi Yehavi, Could you please keep us informed with your research, That would be very interesting case that all other Universities could study. There seems no known large Asterisk deployment in University enviroment at this time. Regards, ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Asterisk is not designed for University with largeuser base?
Hello, Sorry for the delay - was out of office. I also cross-posting it to OpenSIPS list. I have a small pilot (20-30 phones) which also does some sort of SIP to PRI transcode for our old PBX. The pilot is base on Asterisk and mostly Polycom-501 phones. It works quite well, but I have a few minor/missing issues: - I have the RPID patch, and unattended transfers fails with it. - No SLA, only BLF. I know there is SLA, but it is cumbersome to deploy. - Confference is limited to 3 participants. I guess I can do more with external server but didn't manage yet to make it working. - No busy dial again which is required by our users. Now, to the original issue: I tried adding 1000 extensions to the SIP database, and then use SIPP to send one REGISTER for each extension. After doing so Asterisk still worked, but it was continously accessing the database for all these extensions, just polling them. This raised a red flag to me, and I decided to check the following config: OpenSIPS/Kamailo/etc. as registrar and SIP switch for the phones, while using Asterisk only for media related issues (which is the common suggestion here). Now, I have new problems: - SLA works, but very fragile. - Not BLF, although I think it will be solve with the dialog handling on OpenSIPS 1.5 - Same confference and busy dial problem. Next week our management is going to decide (I hope...) how to proceed: Do nothing (stay with the Nortel as we are tight on budget), go to open source or to a commercial solution. Although a commercial solution allows me so sleep well at night, I am going to recommend the open source direction. If accepted, then I will continue the development and you'll hear me quite a lot here asking hard questions :-) BTW, If I didn't say so far: we have around 8,000 extensions on 4 Notel PBX'es, using around 10 PRI's to the world. Regards, __Yehavi: 2009/3/17 Vincent Li vincent.mc...@gmail.com On Tue, 17 Mar 2009, Yehavi Bourvine wrote: Hello' I am at the same situation as you. I also work at a university and we have over 8.000 extensions on a Nortel PBX. I also run a small Asterisk pilot. I am using a realtime users database and the main problem is that Aaterisk does too mcuh database access to inquire for the currently registered users. (I am using direct RTP path between the phones so this is not a limiting issue here). I am checking now a combination of OpenSIPS and Asterisk, where OpenSIPS will serve the phones and Asterisk the more complicate things (voicemail, transcoding, etc.). OpenSIPS still lacks some of Asterisk features, but they are being worked on. Regards, __Yehavi: Hi Yehavi, Could you please keep us informed with your research, That would be very interesting case that all other Universities could study. There seems no known large Asterisk deployment in University enviroment at this time. Regards, ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Asterisk is not designed for University with largeuser base?
On Tue, 17 Mar 2009, Yehavi Bourvine wrote: Hello' I am at the same situation as you. I also work at a university and we have over 8.000 extensions on a Nortel PBX. I also run a small Asterisk pilot. I am using a realtime users database and the main problem is that Aaterisk does too mcuh database access to inquire for the currently registered users. (I am using direct RTP path between the phones so this is not a limiting issue here). I am checking now a combination of OpenSIPS and Asterisk, where OpenSIPS will serve the phones and Asterisk the more complicate things (voicemail, transcoding, etc.). OpenSIPS still lacks some of Asterisk features, but they are being worked on. Regards, __Yehavi: Hi Yehavi, Could you please keep us informed with your research, That would be very interesting case that all other Universities could study. There seems no known large Asterisk deployment in University enviroment at this time. Regards, ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Asterisk is not designed for University with largeuser base?
On Tue, 17 Mar 2009 10:00:56 -0700 (PDT), Vincent Li wrote: On Tue, 17 Mar 2009, Yehavi Bourvine wrote: Hello' I am at the same situation as you. I also work at a university and we have over 8.000 extensions on a Nortel PBX. I also run a small Asterisk pilot. I am using a realtime users database and the main problem is that Aaterisk does too mcuh database access to inquire for the currently registered users. (I am using direct RTP path between the phones so this is not a limiting issue here). I am checking now a combination of OpenSIPS and Asterisk, where OpenSIPS will serve the phones and Asterisk the more complicate things (voicemail, transcoding, etc.). OpenSIPS still lacks some of Asterisk features, but they are being worked on. Regards, __Yehavi: Hi Yehavi, Could you please keep us informed with your research, That would be very interesting case that all other Universities could study. There seems no known large Asterisk deployment in University enviroment at this time. There was at Sam Houston Stat University in Texas, but they have since transitioned to a Cisco Call Manager system...essentially reversing their earlier migration. I gather that this decision was driven by changes in their staffing and epecially the loss of key staff knowledgable in the ways of Asterisk. Michael -- Michael Graves mgravesatmstvp.com http://blog.mgraves.org o713-861-4005 c713-201-1262 sip:mgra...@mstvp.onsip.com skype mjgraves fwd 54245 ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Asterisk is not designed for University with largeuser base?
2009/3/17 Michael Graves mgra...@mstvp.com On Tue, 17 Mar 2009 10:00:56 -0700 (PDT), Vincent Li wrote: On Tue, 17 Mar 2009, Yehavi Bourvine wrote: Hello' I am at the same situation as you. I also work at a university and we have over 8.000 extensions on a Nortel PBX. I also run a small Asterisk pilot. I am using a realtime users database and the main problem is that Aaterisk does too mcuh database access to inquire for the currently registered users. (I am using direct RTP path between the phones so this is not a limiting issue here). I am checking now a combination of OpenSIPS and Asterisk, where OpenSIPS will serve the phones and Asterisk the more complicate things (voicemail, transcoding, etc.). OpenSIPS still lacks some of Asterisk features, but they are being worked on. Regards, __Yehavi: Hi Yehavi, Could you please keep us informed with your research, That would be very interesting case that all other Universities could study. There seems no known large Asterisk deployment in University enviroment at this time. There was at Sam Houston Stat University in Texas, but they have since transitioned to a Cisco Call Manager system...essentially reversing their earlier migration. I gather that this decision was driven by changes in their staffing and epecially the loss of key staff knowledgable in the ways of Asterisk. Are those staffing changes the consequence of issues in Asterisk deployment or is it the opposite (the new staff members that decided to change back to CCM) ? Given the cost of reverting to CCM, that would be strange Sam Houston Stat University in Texas prefers to roll back to CCM instead of finding appropriate support suppliers. Maybe actors are still reading this list and could tell more about it. I know these days, it's easier to get hudge bargains from vendors ... Michael -- Michael Graves mgravesatmstvp.com http://blog.mgraves.org o713-861-4005 c713-201-1262 sip:mgra...@mstvp.onsip.com sip%3amgra...@mstvp.onsip.com skype mjgraves fwd 54245 ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Asterisk is not designed for University with largeuser base?
Hi Visit, that's not correct - google Sam Houston University It's a pretty well known asterisk installation. Regards, Dean Collins Cognation Inc d...@cognation.net +1-212-203-4357 New York +61-2-9016-5642 (Sydney in-dial). +44-20-3129-6001 (London in-dial). -Original Message- From: asterisk-users-boun...@lists.digium.com [mailto:asterisk-users-boun...@lists.digium.com] On Behalf Of Vincent Li Sent: Tuesday, March 17, 2009 1:01 PM To: Yehavi Bourvine Cc: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] Asterisk is not designed for University with largeuser base? On Tue, 17 Mar 2009, Yehavi Bourvine wrote: Hello' I am at the same situation as you. I also work at a university and we have over 8.000 extensions on a Nortel PBX. I also run a small Asterisk pilot. I am using a realtime users database and the main problem is that Aaterisk does too mcuh database access to inquire for the currently registered users. (I am using direct RTP path between the phones so this is not a limiting issue here). I am checking now a combination of OpenSIPS and Asterisk, where OpenSIPS will serve the phones and Asterisk the more complicate things (voicemail, transcoding, etc.). OpenSIPS still lacks some of Asterisk features, but they are being worked on. Regards, __Yehavi: Hi Yehavi, Could you please keep us informed with your research, That would be very interesting case that all other Universities could study. There seems no known large Asterisk deployment in University enviroment at this time. Regards, ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Asterisk is not designed for University with largeuser base?
Very complex installation, so try to star with: 1) Compatibility of current phone platform + asterisk. For example, you can convert current extension as sip extension using fxs ports. This reduces your cost, you don't need buy 8.000 ip phones and install an new wired network. 2) Planning and do an asterisk cluster based building an locations. Group extensions by buildings/asterisk servers. 4) Planning and do asterisk network with and distributed dial plan and trunking 5) Try locate an asterisk specialists 6) believe in asterisk! Regards, Luis Morales On Tue, Mar 17, 2009 at 12:46 PM, Dean Collins d...@cognation.net wrote: Hi Visit, that's not correct - google Sam Houston University It's a pretty well known asterisk installation. Regards, Dean Collins Cognation Inc d...@cognation.net +1-212-203-4357 New York +61-2-9016-5642 (Sydney in-dial). +44-20-3129-6001 (London in-dial). -Original Message- From: asterisk-users-boun...@lists.digium.com [mailto:asterisk-users-boun...@lists.digium.com] On Behalf Of Vincent Li Sent: Tuesday, March 17, 2009 1:01 PM To: Yehavi Bourvine Cc: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] Asterisk is not designed for University with largeuser base? On Tue, 17 Mar 2009, Yehavi Bourvine wrote: Hello' I am at the same situation as you. I also work at a university and we have over 8.000 extensions on a Nortel PBX. I also run a small Asterisk pilot. I am using a realtime users database and the main problem is that Aaterisk does too mcuh database access to inquire for the currently registered users. (I am using direct RTP path between the phones so this is not a limiting issue here). I am checking now a combination of OpenSIPS and Asterisk, where OpenSIPS will serve the phones and Asterisk the more complicate things (voicemail, transcoding, etc.). OpenSIPS still lacks some of Asterisk features, but they are being worked on. Regards, __Yehavi: Hi Yehavi, Could you please keep us informed with your research, That would be very interesting case that all other Universities could study. There seems no known large Asterisk deployment in University enviroment at this time. Regards, ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users -- - Luis Morales Consultor de Tecnologia Cel: +(58)416-4242091 - Empieza por hacer lo necesario, luego lo que es posible... y de pronto estarás haciendo lo imposible Leonardo Da'Vinci - ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Asterisk is not designed for University with largeuser base?
See too: http://www.networkworld.com/news/2007/011907-mit-your-take.html?page=1 Jorge Mendoza Dean Collins wrote: Hi Visit, that's not correct - google Sam Houston University It's a pretty well known asterisk installation. Regards, Dean Collins Cognation Inc d...@cognation.net +1-212-203-4357 New York +61-2-9016-5642 (Sydney in-dial). +44-20-3129-6001 (London in-dial). -Original Message- From: asterisk-users-boun...@lists.digium.com [mailto:asterisk-users-boun...@lists.digium.com] On Behalf Of Vincent Li Sent: Tuesday, March 17, 2009 1:01 PM To: Yehavi Bourvine Cc: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] Asterisk is not designed for University with largeuser base? On Tue, 17 Mar 2009, Yehavi Bourvine wrote: Hello' I am at the same situation as you. I also work at a university and we have over 8.000 extensions on a Nortel PBX. I also run a small Asterisk pilot. I am using a realtime users database and the main problem is that Aaterisk does too mcuh database access to inquire for the currently registered users. (I am using direct RTP path between the phones so this is not a limiting issue here). I am checking now a combination of OpenSIPS and Asterisk, where OpenSIPS will serve the phones and Asterisk the more complicate things (voicemail, transcoding, etc.). OpenSIPS still lacks some of Asterisk features, but they are being worked on. Regards, __Yehavi: Hi Yehavi, Could you please keep us informed with your research, That would be very interesting case that all other Universities could study. There seems no known large Asterisk deployment in University enviroment at this time. Regards, ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Asterisk is not designed for University with largeuser base?
Sounds like a personal preference to me. Here is the Wiki for SipX. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SipX Reading this, it's just another flavor of the same medicine. Both are open-source with Commercial support available. In the 3 month's I've been reading this forum, there have been discussions of installations that are at least equivalent to a 10K user university. -Original Message- From: asterisk-users-boun...@lists.digium.com [mailto:asterisk-users-boun...@lists.digium.com] On Behalf Of Vincent Li Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 4:34 PM To: asterisk-users@lists.digium.com Subject: [asterisk-users] Asterisk is not designed for University with largeuser base? Hello, I just had a meeting about a pilot project going on in our University, The project manager has done some research in the past year and concluded that Asterisk can not scale well to large user base like 10,000 users, thus Asterisk is not fit for large University environment. The project manager instead choosed sipX and said it scales well for large user base. I had an Asterisk running in my office for small user base, I don't have experience with large scale Asterisk implementation. I know little about sipX. Does anyone in the community has any input about this? Vincent Li System Administrator BRC,UBC perl -e'print\131e\164\040\101n\157t\150e\162\040\114i\156u\170\040\107e\145k\01 2' ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Asterisk is not designed for University with largeuser base?
Danny Nicholas wrote: Sounds like a personal preference to me. Here is the Wiki for SipX. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SipX Reading this, it's just another flavor of the same medicine. Both are open-source with Commercial support available. I'd contend that the business model says very little about implementation, reliability, scalability. ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Asterisk is not designed for University with largeuser base?
Hello' I am at the same situation as you. I also work at a university and we have over 8.000 extensions on a Nortel PBX. I also run a small Asterisk pilot. I am using a realtime users database and the main problem is that Aaterisk does too mcuh database access to inquire for the currently registered users. (I am using direct RTP path between the phones so this is not a limiting issue here). I am checking now a combination of OpenSIPS and Asterisk, where OpenSIPS will serve the phones and Asterisk the more complicate things (voicemail, transcoding, etc.). OpenSIPS still lacks some of Asterisk features, but they are being worked on. Regards, __Yehavi: 2009/3/17 Jay Milk ast-us...@skimmilk.net Danny Nicholas wrote: Sounds like a personal preference to me. Here is the Wiki for SipX. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SipX Reading this, it's just another flavor of the same medicine. Both are open-source with Commercial support available. I'd contend that the business model says very little about implementation, reliability, scalability. ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
