Re: [asterisk-users] Asterisk on a Beagleboard?

2009-09-23 Thread Tzafrir Cohen
On Tue, Sep 22, 2009 at 07:43:51PM -0500, Martin wrote:
 I do not know if fonebridge would work here since it sends/receives
 the ~2 Mbps (for each circuit/port)
 of data over ethernet ... constantly. That could choke the USB ...

Ethernet has frames. While I'm not exactly sure how ethernet over USB
works and how TDM over Ethernet (MF) works, I would speculate that it is
far from flooding the USB bus.

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Re: [asterisk-users] Asterisk on a Beagleboard?

2009-09-23 Thread Jeff LaCoursiere

On Wed, 23 Sep 2009, Tzafrir Cohen wrote:

 On Tue, Sep 22, 2009 at 07:43:51PM -0500, Martin wrote:
 I do not know if fonebridge would work here since it sends/receives
 the ~2 Mbps (for each circuit/port)
 of data over ethernet ... constantly. That could choke the USB ...

 Ethernet has frames. While I'm not exactly sure how ethernet over USB
 works and how TDM over Ethernet (MF) works, I would speculate that it is
 far from flooding the USB bus.


Even USB 1.1 was 12Mbps.  Should be plenty of room for a mere 24 channels 
of ulaw :)

j


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Re: [asterisk-users] Asterisk on a Beagleboard?

2009-09-23 Thread Martin
Even PCI has 133MB/s ... so what ? Also isn't USB only target ? It
doesn't do DMA ...
so it might be same as PCI Target chips that slow down the CPU

TDMoE has to have those frames on time all the time forever ...
these ethernet frames are sent both ways every 1ms
that might be (or not) too much load on the small CPU

loose a few frames or deliver late and your voice TDMoE won't work right

I just speculate here

Martin

On Wed, Sep 23, 2009 at 7:56 AM, Jeff LaCoursiere j...@jeff.net wrote:

 On Wed, 23 Sep 2009, Tzafrir Cohen wrote:

 On Tue, Sep 22, 2009 at 07:43:51PM -0500, Martin wrote:
 I do not know if fonebridge would work here since it sends/receives
 the ~2 Mbps (for each circuit/port)
 of data over ethernet ... constantly. That could choke the USB ...

 Ethernet has frames. While I'm not exactly sure how ethernet over USB
 works and how TDM over Ethernet (MF) works, I would speculate that it is
 far from flooding the USB bus.


 Even USB 1.1 was 12Mbps.  Should be plenty of room for a mere 24 channels
 of ulaw :)

 j


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Re: [asterisk-users] Asterisk on a Beagleboard?

2009-09-23 Thread astgroups
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From: Martin asteriskl...@callthem.info 
To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion 
asterisk-users@lists.digium.com 
Sent: Wednesday, September 23, 2009 11:01:04 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern 
Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] Asterisk on a Beagleboard? 

Even PCI has 133MB/s ... so what ? Also isn't USB only target ? It 
doesn't do DMA ... 
so it might be same as PCI Target chips that slow down the CPU 

TDMoE has to have those frames on time all the time forever ... 
these ethernet frames are sent both ways every 1ms 
that might be (or not) too much load on the small CPU 

loose a few frames or deliver late and your voice TDMoE won't work right 

I just speculate here 

Martin 

On Wed, Sep 23, 2009 at 7:56 AM, Jeff LaCoursiere j...@jeff.net wrote: 
 
 On Wed, 23 Sep 2009, Tzafrir Cohen wrote: 
 
 On Tue, Sep 22, 2009 at 07:43:51PM -0500, Martin wrote: 
 I do not know if fonebridge would work here since it sends/receives 
 the ~2 Mbps (for each circuit/port) 
 of data over ethernet ... constantly. That could choke the USB ... 
 
 Ethernet has frames. While I'm not exactly sure how ethernet over USB 
 works and how TDM over Ethernet (MF) works, I would speculate that it is 
 far from flooding the USB bus. 
 
 
 Even USB 1.1 was 12Mbps. Should be plenty of room for a mere 24 channels 
 of ulaw :) 
 
 j 

The test we did was actually with 2x T1s worth of calls (48 uLaw calls) on the 
Beagleboard using the Dual port fonebridge. 
I'm not suggesting this would be a good production quality system. I think a 
native Ethernet connection and not via a USB adapter would be more efficient 
but the CPU was able to handle the call volume no problem. 

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[asterisk-users] Asterisk on a Beagleboard?

2009-09-22 Thread Vincent
Hello

Out of curiosity, has someone managed to run Asterisk on a Beagleboard
for home-use?

www.beagleboard.org

As an alternative to a PC, it can be powered from a USB hub, so that
would make for a compact, fanless Asterisk server.

Thank you.


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Re: [asterisk-users] Asterisk on a Beagleboard?

2009-09-22 Thread Lyle Giese
Vincent wrote:
 Hello

 Out of curiosity, has someone managed to run Asterisk on a Beagleboard
 for home-use?

 www.beagleboard.org

 As an alternative to a PC, it can be powered from a USB hub, so that
 would make for a compact, fanless Asterisk server.

 Thank you.


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128m of ram  256 m flash for the 'hard drive' is not much in either
catagory. And ethernet is a USB addon, not on the board.

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Re: [asterisk-users] Asterisk on a Beagleboard?

2009-09-22 Thread Danny Nicholas
I was going to dismiss this, but it does offer an interesting possibility;
Since it can boot Debian ARM from an SD card,  you could have
Asterisk-in-a-can where you would have the Debian build and Asterisk on
the SD card and could hook up to a USB hub (for Ethernet connectivity) and
process up to 14GB of call-data before having to offload to
permanent/traditional media. If you really went nuts, you could possibly
even power and use a DAHDI device off of some USB-powered peripheral.

-Original Message-
From: asterisk-users-boun...@lists.digium.com
[mailto:asterisk-users-boun...@lists.digium.com] On Behalf Of Lyle Giese
Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2009 8:24 AM
To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion
Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] Asterisk on a Beagleboard?

Vincent wrote:
 Hello

 Out of curiosity, has someone managed to run Asterisk on a Beagleboard
 for home-use?

 www.beagleboard.org

 As an alternative to a PC, it can be powered from a USB hub, so that
 would make for a compact, fanless Asterisk server.

 Thank you.


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128m of ram  256 m flash for the 'hard drive' is not much in either
catagory. And ethernet is a USB addon, not on the board.

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Re: [asterisk-users] Asterisk on a Beagleboard?

2009-09-22 Thread Joe Greco
  Out of curiosity, has someone managed to run Asterisk on a Beagleboard
  for home-use?
 
  www.beagleboard.org
 
  As an alternative to a PC, it can be powered from a USB hub, so that
  would make for a compact, fanless Asterisk server.
 
  Thank you.
   
 128m of ram  256 m flash for the 'hard drive' is not much in either
 catagory. And ethernet is a USB addon, not on the board.

It appears to support a SD/MMC card, meaning that it can support gigs of
low power storage space.  Or a USB HDD for higher power storage space.

128m of RAM isn't a lot, but some people are apparently running Asterisk
on 32MB Linksys WRT54GS's (OpenWRT).  If you were careful and cautious,
it'd probably work.

The Ethernet as an add-on kinda stinks and is probably the largest
negative.

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Re: [asterisk-users] Asterisk on a Beagleboard?

2009-09-22 Thread Mark Phillips
Probably worth discussing this over on the AstLinux list as they are all 
about embedded Asterisk running on machines like this.

On 09/22/2009 09:48 AM, Danny Nicholas wrote:
 I was going to dismiss this, but it does offer an interesting possibility;
 Since it can boot Debian ARM from an SD card,  you could have
 Asterisk-in-a-can where you would have the Debian build and Asterisk on
 the SD card and could hook up to a USB hub (for Ethernet connectivity) and
 process up to 14GB of call-data before having to offload to
 permanent/traditional media. If you really went nuts, you could possibly
 even power and use a DAHDI device off of some USB-powered peripheral.

 -Original Message-
 From: asterisk-users-boun...@lists.digium.com
 [mailto:asterisk-users-boun...@lists.digium.com] On Behalf Of Lyle Giese
 Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2009 8:24 AM
 To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion
 Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] Asterisk on a Beagleboard?

 Vincent wrote:
 Hello

 Out of curiosity, has someone managed to run Asterisk on a Beagleboard
 for home-use?

 www.beagleboard.org

 As an alternative to a PC, it can be powered from a USB hub, so that
 would make for a compact, fanless Asterisk server.

 Thank you.


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Re: [asterisk-users] Asterisk on a Beagleboard?

2009-09-22 Thread Tzafrir Cohen
On Tue, Sep 22, 2009 at 02:56:55PM +0200, Vincent wrote:
 Hello
 
 Out of curiosity, has someone managed to run Asterisk on a Beagleboard
 for home-use?
 
 www.beagleboard.org
 
 As an alternative to a PC, it can be powered from a USB hub, so that
 would make for a compact, fanless Asterisk server.

That board lacks a network adapter in the default configuration. Make
sure you add one.

A different Arm: SheevaPlug, or OpenRD.
http://www.openplug.org/

I managed to build trunk on my SheevaPlug . Only thing that is left to
fix not is a minor fix to libgsm, but then again, you'd want to use
libgsm from Debian anyway :-) (the fix is to tell the configure script
not to attempt any special platform-specific optimizations in the case
of armv5). The latest releases of a number of days ago should include a
number of minor fixes that should help build on Arm.

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Re: [asterisk-users] Asterisk on a Beagleboard?

2009-09-22 Thread Gordon Henderson
On Tue, 22 Sep 2009, Lyle Giese wrote:

 Vincent wrote:
 Hello

 Out of curiosity, has someone managed to run Asterisk on a Beagleboard
 for home-use?

 www.beagleboard.org

 As an alternative to a PC, it can be powered from a USB hub, so that
 would make for a compact, fanless Asterisk server.

 128m of ram  256 m flash for the 'hard drive' is not much in either
 catagory. And ethernet is a USB addon, not on the board.

That's plenty. My systems run happily in just that. (Geode processor) 
However no Ethernet is going to be an issue! They actually use just 48MB 
of RAM, but it's nice to have a bit spare...

However, I can't see it being hard to get it to work - I understand 
Asterisk was ported to the Nokia 770's way back - that's also ARM based, 
using it's Wi-Fi interface.

Can't wait to get my Nokia E900 - Arm based Linux tablet with a mobile 
phone bolted on :)

Gordon

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Re: [asterisk-users] Asterisk on a Beagleboard?

2009-09-22 Thread astgroups
Yes. Using Ubuntu, Asterisk with Dahdi. USB to Ethernet HUB and a Redfone 
fonebridge T1/E1 gateway connected to it. 
It can process a T1/E1 worth of calls no problem. 


- Original Message - 
From: Vincent vincent.delpo...@bigfoot.com 
To: asterisk-users@lists.digium.com 
Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2009 8:56:55 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern 
Subject: [asterisk-users] Asterisk on a Beagleboard? 

Hello 

Out of curiosity, has someone managed to run Asterisk on a Beagleboard 
for home-use? 

www.beagleboard.org 

As an alternative to a PC, it can be powered from a USB hub, so that 
would make for a compact, fanless Asterisk server. 

Thank you. 


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Re: [asterisk-users] Asterisk on a Beagleboard?

2009-09-22 Thread Martin
I do not know if fonebridge would work here since it sends/receives
the ~2 Mbps (for each circuit/port)
of data over ethernet ... constantly. That could choke the USB ...

Martin

On Tue, Sep 22, 2009 at 5:54 PM,  astgro...@comcast.net wrote:
 Yes. Using Ubuntu, Asterisk with Dahdi. USB to Ethernet HUB and a Redfone
 fonebridge T1/E1 gateway connected to it.
 It can process a T1/E1 worth of calls no problem.


 - Original Message -
 From: Vincent vincent.delpo...@bigfoot.com
 To: asterisk-users@lists.digium.com
 Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2009 8:56:55 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
 Subject: [asterisk-users] Asterisk on a Beagleboard?

 Hello

 Out of curiosity, has someone managed to run Asterisk on a Beagleboard
 for home-use?

 www.beagleboard.org

 As an alternative to a PC, it can be powered from a USB hub, so that
 would make for a compact, fanless Asterisk server.

 Thank you.


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