On Oct 22, 2014, at 2:13 PM, Scott Griepentrog sgriepent...@digium.com wrote:
is asterisk abandoning the dial plan?
It's clear that there is a desire to have a way of running Asterisk with
little or no dialplan. While currently there is no way to abandon the
dialplan as you point out, that could actually happen, someday, many years
and versions from now. But even then I would expect there could be a
loadable module to add dialplan support for those who still need it, where
the dependencies on dialplan have since been removed from the core.
There has to be some more justification for such a profound change to a mature
product interface than some vague desire by unknown persons who know best for
the entire Asterisk community.
So, to answer your question, yes, and no.
On Wed, Oct 22, 2014 at 1:55 PM, Paul Albrecht palbre...@glccom.com wrote:
On Oct 22, 2014, at 11:31 AM, Matthew Jordan mjor...@digium.com wrote:
On Wed, Oct 22, 2014 at 11:14 AM, Paul Albrecht palbre...@glccom.com wrote:
On Oct 22, 2014, at 10:33 AM, Joshua Colp jc...@digium.com wrote:
Paul Albrecht wrote:
Really? Shouldn’t something this major affecting the entire Asterisk
community get discussed on the lists? Any idea what Leif is talking
about when he says the community is in transition, moving from dial
plan model to external control.
It was something Ben Klang brought up and wanted to talk about - it's
not something that has been decided 'nor does anyone know what the
future entails. Any further discussions will naturally occur on the
mailing list and in fact some things have explicit action items to bring
them up on here.
The suggestion that Asterisk should consider deprecating AMI/AGI is “crazy
talk.” It doesn’t merit discussion and shouldn’t be on the agenda in the
first place. It’s completely impractical and can never happen. Moreover,
Leif seems to think we (the asterisk community) are in transition. What does
that mean? Are we abandoning the dial plan? Seriously? That’s never gonna
happen either. ARI isn’t easier to use than dial plan scripting. I guess one
could hope that what happens in Vegas stays in Vegas”, but I don’t think
the Asterisk community has that kind of luck.
Just because someone decided to bring up a radical idea does not mean we
refuse to discuss it.
So you agree that deprecating AMI/AGI is “crazy talk” but you’ll discuss it
because of your open-mindedness?
This is an open source project. Communication is done in an open,
transparent manner. People should feel like they can bring up interesting,
radical, and yes - even crazy - ideas.
By the same token, when you propose ideas, you must be prepared for honest
criticism and accept it in graciously rather than simply resorting to
argument ad hominem.
If you don't like that, you don't have to participate in the discussion.
You haven’t really responded to the substance of my post, that is, is
asterisk abandoning the dial plan?
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