[asterisk-users] Auto Provisioning

2013-01-29 Thread Felix Vazquez
I would like to auto provision the SPA504G phones we have in the office. What 
is the best method for this task?

Felix





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Re: [asterisk-users] Auto Provisioning

2013-01-29 Thread Chad Wallace
On Tue, 29 Jan 2013 19:44:04 +
Felix Vazquez felix.vazq...@theboshgroup.com wrote:

 I would like to auto provision the SPA504G phones we have in the
 office. What is the best method for this task?

The response to this form post looks like a good start:

https://supportforums.cisco.com/thread/2022067


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Re: [asterisk-users] Auto provisioning from public server

2010-10-27 Thread Jonas Kellens
On 10/26/2010 06:30 PM, Andrew Latham wrote:
 snom phones can do http digest authentication...


I think this digest authentication is for accessing the phone's web 
interface, not for contacting a provisioning server


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Re: [asterisk-users] Auto provisioning from public server

2010-10-27 Thread Ishfaq Malik
On Tue, 2010-10-26 at 17:31 +0200, Jonas Kellens wrote:
 Hello,
 
 has anyone experience with auto provisioning IP-phones on different
 locations through a central public provisioning server ? You use http
 or https ?
 
 Is there a danger that one uses a different MAC-address in the
 provisioning link to obtain SIP username / password settings ?
 
 
 Kind regards,
 Jonas.
The company we use for provisioning snom phones delete the un pass info
from the server once it has been picked up for the first time. That way
no one else can access it by spoofing the MAC address


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Re: [asterisk-users] Auto provisioning from public server

2010-10-27 Thread Steve Totaro
On Tue, Oct 26, 2010 at 11:31 AM, Jonas Kellens jonas.kell...@telenet.bewrote:

  Hello,

 has anyone experience with auto provisioning IP-phones on different
 locations through a central public provisioning server ? You use http or
 https ?

 Is there a danger that one uses a different MAC-address in the provisioning
 link to obtain SIP username / password settings ?


 Kind regards,
 Jonas.


Yes, there is a danger, especially with TFTP, but also with FTP to a lesser
degreee.

If someone guessed correctly, they could download the config file for
another phone.

Thanks,
Steve T
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Re: [asterisk-users] Auto provisioning from public server

2010-10-27 Thread Steve Totaro
On Wed, Oct 27, 2010 at 4:04 AM, Ishfaq Malik i...@pack-net.co.uk wrote:

 On Tue, 2010-10-26 at 17:31 +0200, Jonas Kellens wrote:
  Hello,
 
  has anyone experience with auto provisioning IP-phones on different
  locations through a central public provisioning server ? You use http
  or https ?
 
  Is there a danger that one uses a different MAC-address in the
  provisioning link to obtain SIP username / password settings ?
 
 
  Kind regards,
  Jonas.
 The company we use for provisioning snom phones delete the un pass info
 from the server once it has been picked up for the first time. That way
 no one else can access it by spoofing the MAC address


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What company is that?  I have seen companies that do this but have never
felt very secure handing the keys to the castle over to a 3rd party service.

It seems like a good idea, but I have trust issues, especially when you top
off your prepaid service with $15k a week.

Thanks,
Steve T
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Re: [asterisk-users] Auto provisioning from public server

2010-10-27 Thread Ishfaq Malik
On Wed, 2010-10-27 at 04:10 -0400, Steve Totaro wrote:
 
 
 On Wed, Oct 27, 2010 at 4:04 AM, Ishfaq Malik i...@pack-net.co.uk
 wrote:
 
 On Tue, 2010-10-26 at 17:31 +0200, Jonas Kellens wrote:
  Hello,
 
  has anyone experience with auto provisioning IP-phones on
 different
  locations through a central public provisioning server ? You
 use http
  or https ?
 
  Is there a danger that one uses a different MAC-address in
 the
  provisioning link to obtain SIP username / password
 settings ?
 
 
  Kind regards,
  Jonas.
 
 The company we use for provisioning snom phones delete the un
 pass info
 from the server once it has been picked up for the first time.
 That way
 no one else can access it by spoofing the MAC address
 
 
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 Software Developer
 PackNet Ltd
 
 Office:   0161 660 3062
 
 
 
 
 What company is that?  I have seen companies that do this but have
 never felt very secure handing the keys to the castle over to a 3rd
 party service.
 
 It seems like a good idea, but I have trust issues, especially when
 you top off your prepaid service with $15k a week.
 
 Thanks,
 Steve T 
It's our hardware supplier, the provisioning server is a free service if
you purchase the hardware from them.

I totally understand your point but there's always got to be some trust
at some point whether it be in your suppliers or even your employees or
co workers

They are a UK based company called Provu, I'm pretty sure they are
active on this list too

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Re: [asterisk-users] Auto provisioning from public server

2010-10-27 Thread Jonas Kellens

On 10/27/2010 10:06 AM, Steve Totaro wrote:
On Tue, Oct 26, 2010 at 11:31 AM, Jonas Kellens 
jonas.kell...@telenet.be mailto:jonas.kell...@telenet.be wrote:


Hello,

has anyone experience with auto provisioning IP-phones on
different locations through a central public provisioning server ?
You use http or https ?

Is there a danger that one uses a different MAC-address in the
provisioning link to obtain SIP username / password settings ?


Kind regards,
Jonas.


Yes, there is a danger, especially with TFTP, but also with FTP to a 
lesser degreee.


If someone guessed correctly, they could download the config file for 
another phone.


Thanks,
Steve T



If I find a way to implement it... https would be safer ?

Or is the only safe way to work with certificates that are loaded on the 
IP-phone ?!


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Re: [asterisk-users] Auto provisioning from public server

2010-10-27 Thread Tzafrir Cohen
Hi,

On Tue, Oct 26, 2010 at 05:31:00PM +0200, Jonas Kellens wrote:
 Hello,

 has anyone experience with auto provisioning IP-phones on different  
 locations through a central public provisioning server ? You use http or  
 https ?

What is it exactly that you want to guarantee?

Authenticating the client? The server?

Avoiding any leak of data to some eavesdropper?


 Is there a danger that one uses a different MAC-address in the  
 provisioning link to obtain SIP username / password settings ?

On a LAN it wouls be quite difficult to forge the MAC without it getting
detected. But in your case, the MAC is merely an arbitrary ID of the
client. It can probably serve as a useful unique ID. See the above
question regarding authentication.

I also guess you should not use TFTP. Unless you have some spare time at
boot.

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Re: [asterisk-users] Auto provisioning from public server

2010-10-27 Thread Andrew Latham
Jonas

A quick look at the snom wiki will tell you that I am right...


 On 10/26/2010 06:30 PM, Andrew Latham wrote:
 snom phones can do http digest authentication...


 I think this digest authentication is for accessing the phone's web
 interface, not for contacting a provisioning server


 Jonas.

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[asterisk-users] Auto provisioning from public server

2010-10-26 Thread Jonas Kellens

Hello,

has anyone experience with auto provisioning IP-phones on different 
locations through a central public provisioning server ? You use http or 
https ?


Is there a danger that one uses a different MAC-address in the 
provisioning link to obtain SIP username / password settings ?



Kind regards,
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Re: [asterisk-users] Auto provisioning from public server

2010-10-26 Thread Andrew Latham
You can provision over a WAN and access-lists or iptables can limit
the networks allowed.  Define what level of security you need first.
For further security you can use an inbound proxy and check the http
headers for agent identification.  This can also be faked.

Practice layers of security...


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On Tue, Oct 26, 2010 at 12:31 PM, Jonas Kellens
jonas.kell...@telenet.be wrote:
 Hello,

 has anyone experience with auto provisioning IP-phones on different
 locations through a central public provisioning server ? You use http or
 https ?

 Is there a danger that one uses a different MAC-address in the provisioning
 link to obtain SIP username / password settings ?


 Kind regards,
 Jonas.

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Re: [asterisk-users] Auto provisioning from public server

2010-10-26 Thread Matt Desbiens
I havent had much auto provisioning experience, however, what about just
using IPTables to create an access list essentially for known IPs to connect
via HTTP/HTTPS and block all other addresses.  This would only work if the
phones are coming from a Static IP, but I figured i'd give my 2 cents to try
and help.

On Tue, Oct 26, 2010 at 11:31 AM, Jonas Kellens jonas.kell...@telenet.bewrote:

  Hello,

 has anyone experience with auto provisioning IP-phones on different
 locations through a central public provisioning server ? You use http or
 https ?

 Is there a danger that one uses a different MAC-address in the provisioning
 link to obtain SIP username / password settings ?


 Kind regards,
 Jonas.

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Re: [asterisk-users] Auto provisioning from public server

2010-10-26 Thread Danny Nicholas
On Tue, Oct 26, 2010 at 12:31 PM, Jonas Kellens
jonas.kell...@telenet.be wrote:
 Hello,

 has anyone experience with auto provisioning IP-phones on different
 locations through a central public provisioning server ? You use http or
 https ?

 Is there a danger that one uses a different MAC-address in the
provisioning
 link to obtain SIP username / password settings ?


 Kind regards,
 Jonas.

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Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] Auto provisioning from public server

You can provision over a WAN and access-lists or iptables can limit
the networks allowed.  Define what level of security you need first.
For further security you can use an inbound proxy and check the http
headers for agent identification.  This can also be faked.

Practice layers of security...


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To second Andrew's reply - Auto-provisioning is generally done in a
TFTP/HTTP environment.  So you will want to set up a layered-vlan
environment using IPTABLES or whatever so you can poke freely with
constraints.

The phone is dumb, so your network needs to be smart...


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Re: [asterisk-users] Auto provisioning from public server

2010-10-26 Thread Jonas Kellens
On 10/26/2010 05:40 PM, Matt Desbiens wrote:
 I havent had much auto provisioning experience, however, what about 
 just using IPTables to create an access list essentially for known IPs 
 to connect via HTTP/HTTPS and block all other addresses.  This would 
 only work if the phones are coming from a Static IP, but I figured i'd 
 give my 2 cents to try and help.

Thank you for your input, but IP-addresses will change, so this would 
then become an administrative and time-consuming job...


Jonas.

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Re: [asterisk-users] Auto provisioning from public server

2010-10-26 Thread bakko
Hello,

many SIP phones offer you the possibility to provisioning them over a FTP 
connection (with username and password).

Regards

- Bakko 


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Re: [asterisk-users] Auto provisioning from public server

2010-10-26 Thread Andrew Latham
With the new phones with VPNs you can also do a stepped provision
One provisioning service for the vpn and another for the sip that can
only be reached with the vpn.  This is advanced stuff so take your
time and learn about the tech.

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Re: [asterisk-users] Auto provisioning from public server

2010-10-26 Thread Andrew Latham
Think about limiting geographically or use a CDN with good controls.

 Thank you for your input, but IP-addresses will change, so this would
 then become an administrative and time-consuming job...


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Re: [asterisk-users] Auto provisioning from public server

2010-10-26 Thread Jonas Kellens
On 10/26/2010 05:41 PM, Andrew Latham wrote:
 You can provision over a WAN and access-lists or iptables can limit
 the networks allowed.  Define what level of security you need first.
 For further security you can use an inbound proxy and check the http
 headers for agent identification.  This can also be faked.

 Practice layers of security...

Well, what I'm really aiming for is this :

I let users make easy config files via web interface. This results in a 
config file with name MAC-address of the IP-phone. This config file is 
then available on the public server. User just needs to points his 
IP-phone to the provisioning URL.
Remarks :
- User from site A will want other configuration then user from site B.
- User from site A may not have access to or download config file of 
user from site B and vica versa.

Expand setup :
Also a phone book becomes available from the public server for the users...


Jonas.

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Re: [asterisk-users] Auto provisioning from public server

2010-10-26 Thread Jonas Kellens
On 10/26/2010 05:52 PM, bakko wrote:
 Hello,

 many SIP phones offer you the possibility to provisioning them over a FTP
 connection (with username and password).

 Regards

 - Bakko


In this case I will want to use Snom phones. TFTP is available, but no 
FTP (with indeed then a username and password). FTP would be great...


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Re: [asterisk-users] Auto provisioning from public server

2010-10-26 Thread Mark Deneen
On Tue, Oct 26, 2010 at 12:06 PM, Jonas Kellens
jonas.kell...@telenet.be wrote:
 On 10/26/2010 05:52 PM, bakko wrote:
 Hello,

 many SIP phones offer you the possibility to provisioning them over a FTP
 connection (with username and password).

 Regards

 - Bakko


 In this case I will want to use Snom phones. TFTP is available, but no
 FTP (with indeed then a username and password). FTP would be great...



I wouldn't do this unless your connection is encrypted.

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Re: [asterisk-users] Auto provisioning from public server

2010-10-26 Thread Andrew Latham
snom phones can do http digest authentication...


 In this case I will want to use Snom phones. TFTP is available, but no
 FTP (with indeed then a username and password). FTP would be great...


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Re: [asterisk-users] Auto provisioning from public server

2010-10-26 Thread Philipp von Klitzing
Hi!

 In this case I will want to use Snom phones. TFTP is available, but no FTP
 (with indeed then a username and password). FTP would be great...

You could also consider to use the SNOM Redirection Service for 
provisioning:

  http://wiki.snom.com/PROVISIONING

Remark: TR-69 provisioning doesn't appear to fit to your environment from 
what you have disclosed.

Philipp


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Re: [asterisk-users] Auto provisioning from public server

2010-10-26 Thread Steve Howes
On 26 Oct 2010, at 16:31, Jonas Kellens wrote:
 has anyone experience with auto provisioning IP-phones on different locations 
 through a central public provisioning server ? You use http or https ?

What handset? That's rather what controls your options. Some support HTTPS with 
client certificate authentication. Some support passwords. Some don't.

S
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Re: [asterisk-users] auto provisioning phones

2008-08-11 Thread Philipp Kempgen
Michael Graves schrieb:
 Which Asterisk systems provide automatic provisioning of phones?

Gemeinschaft ( http://www.amooma.de/gemeinschaft/ ) does.

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Re: [asterisk-users] auto provisioning phones

2008-08-02 Thread Sigma Networks
Thridlane PBX Manager (www.thirdlane.com) has a comprehensive phone 
provisioning system with templates.  If your phone isn't supported 
already you can create your own templates easily.

Jim

Michael Graves wrote:
 Which Asterisk systems provide automatic provisioning of phones?

 Switchvox? ABE? The AA series appliances? Trixbox?

 I know that the VDEX-40 (Voiceroute) and Jazinga do this.

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[asterisk-users] auto provisioning phones

2008-08-01 Thread Michael Graves
Which Asterisk systems provide automatic provisioning of phones?

Switchvox? ABE? The AA series appliances? Trixbox?

I know that the VDEX-40 (Voiceroute) and Jazinga do this.

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Re: [asterisk-users] auto provisioning phones

2008-08-01 Thread Kevin P. Fleming
Michael Graves wrote:

 Switchvox? ABE? The AA series appliances?

All three of these can auto-provision Polycom phones, but that is the
only brand that they support for provisioning.

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Re: [asterisk-users] auto provisioning phones

2008-08-01 Thread Ming Yong
Michael,
Please take a look the Druid, Open Source Unified Communications
http://www.voiceroute.org
We have auto-provisioning support for Cisco, Polycom, Snom, Mitel,
Aastra, Grandstream, Linksys

Ming

On Fri, Aug 1, 2008 at 11:36 PM, Michael Graves [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Which Asterisk systems provide automatic provisioning of phones?

 Switchvox? ABE? The AA series appliances? Trixbox?

 I know that the VDEX-40 (Voiceroute) and Jazinga do this.

 Michael
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Meet us at WEB 2.0 EXPO, 16-19 Sept 2008, Javits Center, NYC, Booth #17
http://druidweb20.eventbrite.com

See Voiceroute OSCON 2008 Druid project presentation on youtube
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2gfIAXm5vTc
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Re: [asterisk-users] auto provisioning phones

2008-08-01 Thread Tom Moore
Druid does I believe.
Not sure about any others though.

Tom
 

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Which Asterisk systems provide automatic provisioning of phones?

Switchvox? ABE? The AA series appliances? Trixbox?

I know that the VDEX-40 (Voiceroute) and Jazinga do this.

Michael
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Re: [asterisk-users] auto provisioning phones

2008-08-01 Thread Grygoriy Dobrovolskyy
Elastix ?

2008/8/1 Tom Moore [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 Druid does I believe.
 Not sure about any others though.

 Tom


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 Which Asterisk systems provide automatic provisioning of phones?

 Switchvox? ABE? The AA series appliances? Trixbox?

 I know that the VDEX-40 (Voiceroute) and Jazinga do this.

 Michael
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