[asterisk-users] Be aware of callcheap.com and Mike Low - It is scam

2008-10-10 Thread Zeeshan Zakaria
Hi everybody,

Recently I was ripped off by this company named Callcheap Networks Inc, and
so did one of the carriers I recommended to them. Now I am perusing legal
action against them, a mess in which I never wanted to get into. Based on my
bad experience, I wanted to let everybody know if this guy named Mike Low
from Call Cheap Networks Inc. (callcheap.com) contacts you, please be
careful. If you decide to do business with him, please get your money in
advance and don't believe him on saying that he'd pay once the work is done
or next week or tomorrow. He came to me from another company, with whom he
hosted a callback service. He blamed them of bad service and asked me to
setup a call back service for him. He seemed to be a genuine and honest
person with very good plans for his business. He asked me for a good
provider and I recommended him one. But when it came to pay for the service,
he started to ask for more time. He did the same with the carrier. And after
about month and a half, not paying to any one of us and using, or should I
say misuing our trunks and services for his users and users of another
company, he refused to pay us at all and blamed us for bad service, damage
to his business and other non-sense. Once the carrier disconnect him after
suffering a huge loss, and me refusing to do any further work for him unless
my invoices are cleared, he threatening me to bring to court for
disconnecting him, and is now looking for another company to host his
callback service. During this month and a half, I also noticed that
callcheap.com's website has changed its face and host three times. I have
screen shots for last two for my record.

If anybody of you have worked with this guy before, maybe they could share
their experience here. And those who haven't, and if this guy contacts you,
please be careful.

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Re: [asterisk-users] Be aware of callcheap.com and Mike Low - It is scam

2008-10-10 Thread Steve Totaro
On Fri, Oct 10, 2008 at 5:09 AM, Zeeshan Zakaria [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi everybody,

 Recently I was ripped off by this company named Callcheap Networks Inc, and
 so did one of the carriers I recommended to them. Now I am perusing legal
 action against them, a mess in which I never wanted to get into. Based on my
 bad experience, I wanted to let everybody know if this guy named Mike Low
 from Call Cheap Networks Inc. (callcheap.com) contacts you, please be
 careful. If you decide to do business with him, please get your money in
 advance and don't believe him on saying that he'd pay once the work is done
 or next week or tomorrow. He came to me from another company, with whom he
 hosted a callback service. He blamed them of bad service and asked me to
 setup a call back service for him. He seemed to be a genuine and honest
 person with very good plans for his business. He asked me for a good
 provider and I recommended him one. But when it came to pay for the service,
 he started to ask for more time. He did the same with the carrier. And after
 about month and a half, not paying to any one of us and using, or should I
 say misuing our trunks and services for his users and users of another
 company, he refused to pay us at all and blamed us for bad service, damage
 to his business and other non-sense. Once the carrier disconnect him after
 suffering a huge loss, and me refusing to do any further work for him unless
 my invoices are cleared, he threatening me to bring to court for
 disconnecting him, and is now looking for another company to host his
 callback service. During this month and a half, I also noticed that
 callcheap.com's website has changed its face and host three times. I have
 screen shots for last two for my record.

 If anybody of you have worked with this guy before, maybe they could share
 their experience here. And those who haven't, and if this guy contacts you,
 please be careful.

 --
 Zeeshan A Zakaria

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While pending legal action, it is best to not post these things in a public
forum.

While I appreciate the fact you are trying to help the community by giving a
heads up, you set yourself up for a counter suit for defamation of
character.

It is best to wait for court to rule before going public.

At the very least, use a hushmail account and post a warning with no
identifiable transactions or actions, just watch out for so and so, although
I still think posting one sided things to a list serves nobody well, if they
have no way to address the accusations, and like I said before, it is best
to do it court.

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Re: [asterisk-users] Be aware of callcheap.com and Mike Low - It is scam

2008-10-10 Thread Zeeshan Zakaria
I also thought about it. Maybe I should not have posted it here. But I know
he is actively searching for another company. Just don't want any other
provider to suffer.

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Re: [asterisk-users] Be aware of callcheap.com and Mike Low - It is scam

2008-10-10 Thread Steve Totaro
On Fri, Oct 10, 2008 at 5:43 PM, Zeeshan Zakaria [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I also thought about it. Maybe I should not have posted it here. But I know
 he is actively searching for another company. Just don't want any other
 provider to suffer.

 Zeeshan


Again, your motives are admirable in my opinion, execution was flawed.

If I were you though, I would post from a hushmail.com with no specific
details that could tie the posting to you directly, just enough to put out
the Heads Up

I personally would also CC the person in question so they are aware of the
posting and can reply.  Maybe even incriminate themselves if you are lucky.

The key is to keep your identity secret while bringing attention to the
matter, if you feel you must, and give them a chance to defend themselves
(or incriminate).

The other thing is that your post really belongs on the -biz list and would
probably have a better chance of alerting someone who may fall victim to a
scammer.  There is so much competition, that I assume it is quite easy to
fall for a deal from someone that sounds sincere, to make a few dollars.

I cannot really see setting up accounts with live trunks that are not on a
prepaid system unless you have been dealing with the person/organization for
quite some time, or you pull their business credit report and hold them
personally responsible as well as their corporation through a legally
binding contract.

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