[asterisk-users] Best PBX for Call Centers?

2011-12-15 Thread Tarek Sawah

Hello List,
I have customer with a 40 Agents call center. and is looking to install a PBX 
switch that can serve those agents.
As per my experience i suggested Asterisk as i have tested it with Call 
Centers, however he has been advised not to use it although his provider is 
using Asterisk to send him calls. He has been advised to use Sippy which they 
claim is more stable than Asterisk. 
i'm not an expert with Sippy so i'm looking for a piece of an advise here.. if 
i'm doing an Asterisk Vs Sippy comparison. can anyone help?
Regards



Tarek Sawah

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Integrated Digital Systems

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Re: [asterisk-users] Best PBX for Call Centers?

2011-12-15 Thread Carlos Alvarez
On Thu, Dec 15, 2011 at 11:33 AM, Tarek Sawah tareksa...@hotmail.comwrote:


 Hello List,
 I have customer with a 40 Agents call center. and is looking to install a
 PBX switch that can serve those agents.
 As per my experience i suggested Asterisk as i have tested it with Call
 Centers, however he has been advised not to use it although his provider is
 using Asterisk to send him calls. He has been advised to use Sippy which
 they claim is more stable than Asterisk.


More stable?  We have Asterisk servers that have run for many years without
being unstable.  There's a pair of them in a colo facility that are 7
years old and haven't been touched in at least two years.  Just how many
more years do you need to be more stable?

Asterisk isn't perfect, but done right it's quite stable.  IMO, the people
giving you advice just don't know how to do it right.


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Re: [asterisk-users] Best PBX for Call Centers?

2011-12-15 Thread James Sharp

On 12/15/2011 01:33 PM, Tarek Sawah wrote:


Hello List,
I have customer with a 40 Agents call center. and is looking to install a PBX 
switch that can serve those agents.
As per my experience i suggested Asterisk as i have tested it with Call 
Centers, however he has been advised not to use it although his provider is 
using Asterisk to send him calls. He has been advised to use Sippy which they 
claim is more stable than Asterisk.
i'm not an expert with Sippy so i'm looking for a piece of an advise here.. if 
i'm doing an Asterisk Vs Sippy comparison. can anyone help?
Regards




I think the answer you're going to get on an Asterisk mailing list is 
Asterisk is the best.


I'd find out why your customer is being advised against Asterisk.  Bet 
you'll find political reasons rather than technical.  And if they are 
technical reasons, make sure they're applicable to a recent version of 
Asterisk rather than hearing It doesn't do Feature X and then finding 
out that Feature X was added in 1.4 (and the Asterisk world is on the 
equivalent of 1.10) and the person just has experience with 1.2.


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Re: [asterisk-users] Best PBX for Call Centers?

2011-12-15 Thread Andrew Latham
On Thu, Dec 15, 2011 at 3:39 PM, Carlos Alvarez car...@televolve.com wrote:

 On Thu, Dec 15, 2011 at 11:33 AM, Tarek Sawah tareksa...@hotmail.com
 wrote:


 Hello List,
 I have customer with a 40 Agents call center. and is looking to install a
 PBX switch that can serve those agents.
 As per my experience i suggested Asterisk as i have tested it with Call
 Centers, however he has been advised not to use it although his provider is
 using Asterisk to send him calls. He has been advised to use Sippy which
 they claim is more stable than Asterisk.


 More stable?  We have Asterisk servers that have run for many years without
 being unstable.  There's a pair of them in a colo facility that are 7
 years old and haven't been touched in at least two years.  Just how many
 more years do you need to be more stable?

 Asterisk isn't perfect, but done right it's quite stable.  IMO, the people
 giving you advice just don't know how to do it right.


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 TelEvolve
 602-889-3003

I fully support the statement by Carlos.  Planing, engineering and
other factors can make almost any software stable.  Experience is key.


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Re: [asterisk-users] Best PBX for Call Centers?

2011-12-15 Thread James Sharp

On 12/15/2011 01:43 PM, James Sharp wrote:

On 12/15/2011 01:33 PM, Tarek Sawah wrote:


Hello List,
I have customer with a 40 Agents call center. and is looking to
install a PBX switch that can serve those agents.
As per my experience i suggested Asterisk as i have tested it with
Call Centers, however he has been advised not to use it although his
provider is using Asterisk to send him calls. He has been advised to
use Sippy which they claim is more stable than Asterisk.
i'm not an expert with Sippy so i'm looking for a piece of an advise
here.. if i'm doing an Asterisk Vs Sippy comparison. can anyone help?
Regards




I think the answer you're going to get on an Asterisk mailing list is
Asterisk is the best.

I'd find out why your customer is being advised against Asterisk. Bet
you'll find political reasons rather than technical. And if they are
technical reasons, make sure they're applicable to a recent version of
Asterisk rather than hearing It doesn't do Feature X and then finding
out that Feature X was added in 1.4 (and the Asterisk world is on the
equivalent of 1.10) and the person just has experience with 1.2.


I should have probably read the whole message.  Especially the part 
about the more stable claim.


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Re: [asterisk-users] Best PBX for Call Centers?

2011-12-15 Thread Eric Wieling
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Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] Best PBX for Call Centers?

On Thu, Dec 15, 2011 at 3:39 PM, Carlos Alvarez car...@televolve.com wrote:

 On Thu, Dec 15, 2011 at 11:33 AM, Tarek Sawah tareksa...@hotmail.com
 wrote:


 Hello List,
 I have customer with a 40 Agents call center. and is looking to 
 install a PBX switch that can serve those agents.
 As per my experience i suggested Asterisk as i have tested it with 
 Call Centers, however he has been advised not to use it although his 
 provider is using Asterisk to send him calls. He has been advised to 
 use Sippy which they claim is more stable than Asterisk.


 More stable?  We have Asterisk servers that have run for many years 
 without being unstable.  There's a pair of them in a colo facility 
 that are 7 years old and haven't been touched in at least two years.  
 Just how many more years do you need to be more stable?

 Asterisk isn't perfect, but done right it's quite stable.  IMO, the 
 people giving you advice just don't know how to do it right.

I fully support the statement by Carlos.  Planing, engineering and other 
factors can make almost any software stable.  Experience is key.

Reply:

I my experience, once you have a version of Asterisk which is stable for you DO 
NOT UPDATE unless you have NO other choice.  We used to apply updates but got 
burned far too many times, usually by bugs which would not show up during 
normal testing.   Now we only update for serious security issue, and even then 
we try to handle the issue some other way. 
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Re: [asterisk-users] Best PBX for Call Centers?

2011-12-15 Thread Carlos Alvarez
On Thu, Dec 15, 2011 at 11:52 AM, Eric Wieling ewiel...@nyigc.com wrote:


 I my experience, once you have a version of Asterisk which is stable for
 you DO NOT UPDATE unless you have NO other choice.  We used to apply
 updates but got burned far too many times, usually by bugs which would not
 show up during normal testing.   Now we only update for serious security
 issue, and even then we try to handle the issue some other way.


Same here.



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