Re: [asterisk-users] Calling Line Identity - any ideas
Hi All Thanks for the pointers - I now have a working solution using local channels and for the few occasions this needs to happen, about 300 calls in the 20,000 we handle each day I am very happy. Again thanks for you help Paddy _ From: asterisk-users-boun...@lists.digium.com [mailto:asterisk-users-boun...@lists.digium.com] On Behalf Of Nasir Iqbal Sent: 22 August 2010 05:23 To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] Calling Line Identity - any ideas In simple words , Paddy should go with my trick, that is what i got from this reply Regards On Sat, Aug 21, 2010 at 5:14 AM, Sherwood McGowan sherwood.mcgo...@gmail.com wrote: Nasir Iqbal na...@ictinnovations.com wrote: With all honor and respect you deserve, Do I need your permission to express my point of view on community forum ? also it would be quiet helpful for us if you understand well the requirement of post *snip* Nasir, You don't need my permission to post on a public forum...However, neither do I, and I took issue with what you said, and found that your comment about those who are dealing with high load traffic offensive, since it made the assumption that I was just some new guy who deals with hobby/small Asterisk systems and doesn't know what he's talking aboutTherefore, I made it abundantly clear that I wasn't, and that I definitely took issue with that statement. However, I will say that yes, I did mis-take something the OP said... Paddy: Now, here's idea I came up with (haven't tested yet, too busy writing a system for an international interpretation company's telecom needs) First of all, you should have a separate context for outbound calls made by internal extensions... so, in THAT context have code to set the CID to what you wish (you can do logic control and if you're feeling spiffy you can even lookup what CLID to use based on the extension making the call). Second, calls that are being passed from the outside world onto should pass through a different context, performing pretty much the same function... Third, both of THOSE contexts should then pass to a third context that performs the dialout using the multiple targets... Let me know if that works...I know I can make this do what you want, but I'm not trying to do all the work, just point you in a direction, since I get paid to actually do the work ;-) Cheers all, and remember, some of us have been doing this a while, and get grumpy... ;-) there's still no conceivable reason What can be? except performance! (as asterisk has to create one additional leg and bridge it) Which is very conceivable to those who are dealing with high load traffic. And what will be the option, if other outgoing call requires different custom CLI while using the same trunk? New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: http://www.asterisk.org/hello asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users First, the reason is, why use a BAD IDEA when there's perfectly good solutions in front of the user There was no mention on this ONE call going outbound over the trunk needing a different CID...the request was as follows: Client needs to call an INTERNAL extension, where the INTERNAL CallerID will be used, and at the SAME TIME, a call to an EXTERNAL number (which would necessitate USING THEIR PROVIDER TRUNK), using the EXTERNAL CallerID Now, p-lease tell me how just configuring the damned trunk's outbound CID is NOT more sensible, efficient, and just friggin' COMMON SENSE TO START WITH...over using a Local channel call, which would require slightly more typing, and using something that I've almost NEVER found a good reason to use, and if you'd care to search the damn archives, you'll see that I was pushing upwards of 5k CONCURRENT CALLS back in 2005, WITH 1.4 Trunk and the RealTime addiiton (which was experimental)... For the love of whatever you find holy and good and true...don't come at me like that...I'm really not in the mood anymore...I put 3-4 solid years of helpjng newbies figure out why shit didn't work, reporting REAL bugs and issues to thew developers and even assisting with some of the fixesI feel entitled (yes, I know that's an asshole thing to say) to a little common respect Now...anyone for a pint? I'm off to vent some frustration with people who jump on the WRONG bandwagon and try to take over Sherwood Mother-F'in' McGowanb... Telecommunications and Tattooing You konw anyone else who combines those two professions? I'd like to buy that guy a drink! -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- New to Asterisk? Join us for a live
Re: [asterisk-users] Calling Line Identity - any ideas
In simple words , Paddy should go with my trick, that is what i got from this reply Regards On Sat, Aug 21, 2010 at 5:14 AM, Sherwood McGowan sherwood.mcgo...@gmail.com wrote: Nasir Iqbal na...@ictinnovations.com wrote: With all honor and respect you deserve, Do I need your permission to express my point of view on community forum ? also it would be quiet helpful for us if you understand well the requirement of post *snip* Nasir, You don't need my permission to post on a public forum...However, neither do I, and I took issue with what you said, and found that your comment about those who are dealing with high load traffic offensive, since it made the assumption that I was just some new guy who deals with hobby/small Asterisk systems and doesn't know what he's talking aboutTherefore, I made it abundantly clear that I wasn't, and that I definitely took issue with that statement. However, I will say that yes, I did mis-take something the OP said... Paddy: Now, here's idea I came up with (haven't tested yet, too busy writing a system for an international interpretation company's telecom needs) First of all, you should have a separate context for outbound calls made by internal extensions... so, in THAT context have code to set the CID to what you wish (you can do logic control and if you're feeling spiffy you can even lookup what CLID to use based on the extension making the call). Second, calls that are being passed from the outside world onto should pass through a different context, performing pretty much the same function... Third, both of THOSE contexts should then pass to a third context that performs the dialout using the multiple targets... Let me know if that works...I know I can make this do what you want, but I'm not trying to do all the work, just point you in a direction, since I get paid to actually do the work ;-) Cheers all, and remember, some of us have been doing this a while, and get grumpy... ;-) there's still no conceivable reason What can be? except performance! (as asterisk has to create one additional leg and bridge it) Which is very conceivable to those who are dealing with high load traffic. And what will be the option, if other outgoing call requires different custom CLI while using the same trunk? New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: http://www.asterisk.org/hello asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users First, the reason is, why use a BAD IDEA when there's perfectly good solutions in front of the user There was no mention on this ONE call going outbound over the trunk needing a different CID...the request was as follows: Client needs to call an INTERNAL extension, where the INTERNAL CallerID will be used, and at the SAME TIME, a call to an EXTERNAL number (which would necessitate USING THEIR PROVIDER TRUNK), using the EXTERNAL CallerID Now, p-lease tell me how just configuring the damned trunk's outbound CID is NOT more sensible, efficient, and just friggin' COMMON SENSE TO START WITH...over using a Local channel call, which would require slightly more typing, and using something that I've almost NEVER found a good reason to use, and if you'd care to search the damn archives, you'll see that I was pushing upwards of 5k CONCURRENT CALLS back in 2005, WITH 1.4 Trunk and the RealTime addiiton (which was experimental)... For the love of whatever you find holy and good and true...don't come at me like that...I'm really not in the mood anymore...I put 3-4 solid years of helpjng newbies figure out why shit didn't work, reporting REAL bugs and issues to thew developers and even assisting with some of the fixesI feel entitled (yes, I know that's an asshole thing to say) to a little common respect Now...anyone for a pint? I'm off to vent some frustration with people who jump on the WRONG bandwagon and try to take over Sherwood Mother-F'in' McGowanb... Telecommunications and Tattooing You konw anyone else who combines those two professions? I'd like to buy that guy a drink! -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: http://www.asterisk.org/hello asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory
Re: [asterisk-users] Calling Line Identity - any ideas
Paddy, I believe I have a solution, let me sober a bit ;) and rum it through (typo not intended but funny) my test server to doublecheck Sent from my iPhone On Aug 20, 2010, at 12:20 AM, Paddy Grice pa...@wizaner.com wrote: Hi Sherwood I actually do want dynamic CLID as I tried to make clearer I don't know if this makes it any clearer - An internal call from Ext123 should send 123 as the CLID to SIP/ Ext400 but should send 442071110123 to SIP/TheWorld but an external call from 44123455667788 should send the received CLID 44123455667788 to both. So over the provider connection the CLID will be different for different calls. Setting the main office number in sip.conf is fine as a default but as the code/dialplan needs to set cli for some calls I actually set CLID for all calls. This setting and onward transmission by provider works fine. So what I am trying to do is call 2 different sip endpoints AT THE SAME TIME presenting different AND VARIABLE CLIs. If Nasir's trick is not recommended what is the best way to achieve this. As a newbie to Asterisk advise and best practice gained from user experience is always welcome. Paddy -Original Message- From: asterisk-users-boun...@lists.digium.com [mailto:asterisk-users-boun...@lists.digium.com] On Behalf Of Sherwood McGowan Sent: 20 August 2010 04:58 To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] Calling Line Identity - any ideas On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 7:46 PM, Nasir Iqbal na...@ictinnovations.com wrote: Hi, there's still no conceivable reason What can be? except performance! (as asterisk has to create one additional leg and bridge it) Which is very conceivable to those who are dealing with high load traffic. And what will be the option, if other outgoing call requires different custom CLI while using the same trunk? Regards -- Nasir Iqbal ICT Innovations http://www.ictinnovations.com/ -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: http://www.asterisk.org/hello asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users First, the reason is, why use a BAD IDEA when there's perfectly good solutions in front of the user There was no mention on this ONE call going outbound over the trunk needing a different CID...the request was as follows: Client needs to call an INTERNAL extension, where the INTERNAL CallerID will be used, and at the SAME TIME, a call to an EXTERNAL number (which would necessitate USING THEIR PROVIDER TRUNK), using the EXTERNAL CallerID Now, p-lease tell me how just configuring the damned trunk's outbound CID is NOT more sensible, efficient, and just friggin' COMMON SENSE TO START WITH...over using a Local channel call, which would require slightly more typing, and using something that I've almost NEVER found a good reason to use, and if you'd care to search the damn archives, you'll see that I was pushing upwards of 5k CONCURRENT CALLS back in 2005, WITH 1.4 Trunk and the RealTime addiiton (which was experimental)... For the love of whatever you find holy and good and true...don't come at me like that...I'm really not in the mood anymore...I put 3-4 solid years of helpjng newbies figure out why shit didn't work, reporting REAL bugs and issues to thew developers and even assisting with some of the fixesI feel entitled (yes, I know that's an asshole thing to say) to a little common respect Now...anyone for a pint? I'm off to vent some frustration with people who jump on the WRONG bandwagon and try to take over Sherwood Mother-F'in' McGowanb... Telecommunications and Tattooing You konw anyone else who combines those two professions? I'd like to buy that guy a drink! -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: http://www.asterisk.org/hello asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: http://www.asterisk.org/hello asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Calling Line Identity - any ideas
With all honor and respect you deserve, Do I need your permission to express my point of view on community forum ? also it would be quiet helpful for us if you understand well the requirement of post Regards On Fri, Aug 20, 2010 at 1:34 PM, Sherwood McGowan sherwood.mcgo...@gmail.com wrote: Paddy, I believe I have a solution, let me sober a bit ;) and rum it through (typo not intended but funny) my test server to doublecheck Sent from my iPhone On Aug 20, 2010, at 12:20 AM, Paddy Grice pa...@wizaner.com wrote: Hi Sherwood I actually do want dynamic CLID as I tried to make clearer I don't know if this makes it any clearer - An internal call from Ext123 should send 123 as the CLID to SIP/ Ext400 but should send 442071110123 to SIP/TheWorld but an external call from 44123455667788 should send the received CLID 44123455667788 to both. So over the provider connection the CLID will be different for different calls. Setting the main office number in sip.conf is fine as a default but as the code/dialplan needs to set cli for some calls I actually set CLID for all calls. This setting and onward transmission by provider works fine. So what I am trying to do is call 2 different sip endpoints AT THE SAME TIME presenting different AND VARIABLE CLIs. If Nasir's trick is not recommended what is the best way to achieve this. As a newbie to Asterisk advise and best practice gained from user experience is always welcome. Paddy -Original Message- From: asterisk-users-boun...@lists.digium.com [mailto:asterisk-users-boun...@lists.digium.com] On Behalf Of Sherwood McGowan Sent: 20 August 2010 04:58 To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] Calling Line Identity - any ideas On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 7:46 PM, Nasir Iqbal na...@ictinnovations.com wrote: Hi, there's still no conceivable reason What can be? except performance! (as asterisk has to create one additional leg and bridge it) Which is very conceivable to those who are dealing with high load traffic. And what will be the option, if other outgoing call requires different custom CLI while using the same trunk? Regards -- Nasir Iqbal ICT Innovations http://www.ictinnovations.com/ -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: http://www.asterisk.org/hello asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users First, the reason is, why use a BAD IDEA when there's perfectly good solutions in front of the user There was no mention on this ONE call going outbound over the trunk needing a different CID...the request was as follows: Client needs to call an INTERNAL extension, where the INTERNAL CallerID will be used, and at the SAME TIME, a call to an EXTERNAL number (which would necessitate USING THEIR PROVIDER TRUNK), using the EXTERNAL CallerID Now, p-lease tell me how just configuring the damned trunk's outbound CID is NOT more sensible, efficient, and just friggin' COMMON SENSE TO START WITH...over using a Local channel call, which would require slightly more typing, and using something that I've almost NEVER found a good reason to use, and if you'd care to search the damn archives, you'll see that I was pushing upwards of 5k CONCURRENT CALLS back in 2005, WITH 1.4 Trunk and the RealTime addiiton (which was experimental)... For the love of whatever you find holy and good and true...don't come at me like that...I'm really not in the mood anymore...I put 3-4 solid years of helpjng newbies figure out why shit didn't work, reporting REAL bugs and issues to thew developers and even assisting with some of the fixesI feel entitled (yes, I know that's an asshole thing to say) to a little common respect Now...anyone for a pint? I'm off to vent some frustration with people who jump on the WRONG bandwagon and try to take over Sherwood Mother-F'in' McGowanb... Telecommunications and Tattooing You konw anyone else who combines those two professions? I'd like to buy that guy a drink! -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: http://www.asterisk.org/hello asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http
Re: [asterisk-users] Calling Line Identity - any ideas
Nasir Iqbal na...@ictinnovations.com wrote: With all honor and respect you deserve, Do I need your permission to express my point of view on community forum ? also it would be quiet helpful for us if you understand well the requirement of post *snip* Nasir, You don't need my permission to post on a public forum...However, neither do I, and I took issue with what you said, and found that your comment about those who are dealing with high load traffic offensive, since it made the assumption that I was just some new guy who deals with hobby/small Asterisk systems and doesn't know what he's talking aboutTherefore, I made it abundantly clear that I wasn't, and that I definitely took issue with that statement. However, I will say that yes, I did mis-take something the OP said... Paddy: Now, here's idea I came up with (haven't tested yet, too busy writing a system for an international interpretation company's telecom needs) First of all, you should have a separate context for outbound calls made by internal extensions... so, in THAT context have code to set the CID to what you wish (you can do logic control and if you're feeling spiffy you can even lookup what CLID to use based on the extension making the call). Second, calls that are being passed from the outside world onto should pass through a different context, performing pretty much the same function... Third, both of THOSE contexts should then pass to a third context that performs the dialout using the multiple targets... Let me know if that works...I know I can make this do what you want, but I'm not trying to do all the work, just point you in a direction, since I get paid to actually do the work ;-) Cheers all, and remember, some of us have been doing this a while, and get grumpy... ;-) there's still no conceivable reason What can be? except performance! (as asterisk has to create one additional leg and bridge it) Which is very conceivable to those who are dealing with high load traffic. And what will be the option, if other outgoing call requires different custom CLI while using the same trunk? New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: http://www.asterisk.org/hello asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users First, the reason is, why use a BAD IDEA when there's perfectly good solutions in front of the user There was no mention on this ONE call going outbound over the trunk needing a different CID...the request was as follows: Client needs to call an INTERNAL extension, where the INTERNAL CallerID will be used, and at the SAME TIME, a call to an EXTERNAL number (which would necessitate USING THEIR PROVIDER TRUNK), using the EXTERNAL CallerID Now, p-lease tell me how just configuring the damned trunk's outbound CID is NOT more sensible, efficient, and just friggin' COMMON SENSE TO START WITH...over using a Local channel call, which would require slightly more typing, and using something that I've almost NEVER found a good reason to use, and if you'd care to search the damn archives, you'll see that I was pushing upwards of 5k CONCURRENT CALLS back in 2005, WITH 1.4 Trunk and the RealTime addiiton (which was experimental)... For the love of whatever you find holy and good and true...don't come at me like that...I'm really not in the mood anymore...I put 3-4 solid years of helpjng newbies figure out why shit didn't work, reporting REAL bugs and issues to thew developers and even assisting with some of the fixesI feel entitled (yes, I know that's an asshole thing to say) to a little common respect Now...anyone for a pint? I'm off to vent some frustration with people who jump on the WRONG bandwagon and try to take over Sherwood Mother-F'in' McGowanb... Telecommunications and Tattooing You konw anyone else who combines those two professions? I'd like to buy that guy a drink! -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: http://www.asterisk.org/hello asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: http://www.asterisk.org/hello asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users -- Nasir Iqbal ICT Innovations http://www.ictinnovations.com/ --
[asterisk-users] Calling Line Identity - any ideas
Hi list I have a requirement that I just don't know how to address - I don't think its strange but can't find any pointers anywhere. I have a user that wishes to have a multi phone divert. By that I mean calls made to his extension say Ext200 can be redirected to a different extension say Ext400 and also to his home landline. Doing the dial is fine using Dial(SIP/Ext400SIP/TheWorld/441234567890) The problem is CLID - At the moment internal calls (Ext to Ext) show a CLID EXTxxx and External Calls show the received CLID. When the phone is redirected to both Internal and external numbers he wants the correct CLI displayed on both phones. So with the redirect operational 1) a call from the outside world to his DID number will show the received CLI(ANI) on both devices - this works BUT 2) a call from an office extension needs to show EXTxxx on the extension (Ext400) but show the office telephone number on the landline so in pseudo code I want to do something like Dial ( SIP/Ext400 using CLID EXT123 SIP/TheWorld/441234567890 using CLID 44112233445566 ) Any ideas ? Paddy -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: http://www.asterisk.org/hello asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Calling Line Identity - any ideas
From: asterisk-users-boun...@lists.digium.com [mailto:asterisk-users-boun...@lists.digium.com] On Behalf Of Paddy Grice Sent: 19 August 2010 08:21 To: asterisk-users@lists.digium.com Subject: [asterisk-users] Calling Line Identity - any ideas Hi list I have a requirement that I just don't know how to address - I don't think its strange but can't find any pointers anywhere. I have a user that wishes to have a multi phone divert. By that I mean calls made to his extension say Ext200 can be redirected to a different extension say Ext400 and also to his home landline. Doing the dial is fine using Dial(SIP/Ext400SIP/TheWorld/441234567890) The problem is CLID - At the moment internal calls (Ext to Ext) show a CLID EXTxxx and External Calls show the received CLID. When the phone is redirected to both Internal and external numbers he wants the correct CLI displayed on both phones. So with the redirect operational 1) a call from the outside world to his DID number will show the received CLI(ANI) on both devices - this works BUT 2) a call from an office extension needs to show EXTxxx on the extension (Ext400) but show the office telephone number on the landline so in pseudo code I want to do something like Dial ( SIP/Ext400 using CLID EXT123 SIP/TheWorld/441234567890 using CLID 44112233445566 ) Any ideas ? Paddy Forgot to say - I am using Version 1.4.33.1 Paddy -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: http://www.asterisk.org/hello asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Calling Line Identity - any ideas
I'd have to say off the top of my head that this should already work as long as the trunk you're sending calls to the outside world over has the CallerID setting set AND probably sendrpid=yes...in the sip configuration for both of those items...past that, I could dig a bit Cheers, Sherwood McGowan On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 2:25 AM, Paddy Grice pa...@wizaner.com wrote: From: asterisk-users-boun...@lists.digium.com [mailto:asterisk-users-boun...@lists.digium.com] On Behalf Of Paddy Grice Sent: 19 August 2010 08:21 To: asterisk-users@lists.digium.com Subject: [asterisk-users] Calling Line Identity - any ideas Hi list I have a requirement that I just don't know how to address - I don't think its strange but can't find any pointers anywhere. I have a user that wishes to have a multi phone divert. By that I mean calls made to his extension say Ext200 can be redirected to a different extension say Ext400 and also to his home landline. Doing the dial is fine using Dial(SIP/Ext400SIP/TheWorld/441234567890) The problem is CLID - At the moment internal calls (Ext to Ext) show a CLID EXTxxx and External Calls show the received CLID. When the phone is redirected to both Internal and external numbers he wants the correct CLI displayed on both phones. So with the redirect operational 1) a call from the outside world to his DID number will show the received CLI(ANI) on both devices - this works BUT 2) a call from an office extension needs to show EXTxxx on the extension (Ext400) but show the office telephone number on the landline so in pseudo code I want to do something like Dial ( SIP/Ext400 using CLID EXT123 SIP/TheWorld/441234567890 using CLID 44112233445566 ) Any ideas ? Paddy Forgot to say - I am using Version 1.4.33.1 Paddy -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: http://www.asterisk.org/hello asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: http://www.asterisk.org/hello asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Calling Line Identity - any ideas
Hi Sherwood Maybe my miss-understanding sip.conf I will try and see what happens - but I don't understand how sip would know which CLID to send to each sip endpoint - internal or external. BTW this is all to get return of missed calls working. I don't know if this makes it any clearer - An internal call from Ext123 should send 123 as the CLID to SIP/Ext400 but should send 442071110123 to SIP/TheWorld but an external call from 44123455667788 should send the received CLID 44123455667788 to both. Will check up on sip.conf Paddy -Original Message- From: Sherwood McGowan [mailto:sherwood.mcgo...@gmail.com] Sent: 19 August 2010 08:35 To: pa...@wizaner.com; Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] Calling Line Identity - any ideas I'd have to say off the top of my head that this should already work as long as the trunk you're sending calls to the outside world over has the CallerID setting set AND probably sendrpid=yes...in the sip configuration for both of those items...past that, I could dig a bit Cheers, Sherwood McGowan On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 2:25 AM, Paddy Grice pa...@wizaner.com wrote: From: asterisk-users-boun...@lists.digium.com [mailto:asterisk-users-boun...@lists.digium.com] On Behalf Of Paddy Grice Sent: 19 August 2010 08:21 To: asterisk-users@lists.digium.com Subject: [asterisk-users] Calling Line Identity - any ideas Hi list I have a requirement that I just don't know how to address - I don't think its strange but can't find any pointers anywhere. I have a user that wishes to have a multi phone divert. By that I mean calls made to his extension say Ext200 can be redirected to a different extension say Ext400 and also to his home landline. Doing the dial is fine using Dial(SIP/Ext400SIP/TheWorld/441234567890) The problem is CLID - At the moment internal calls (Ext to Ext) show a CLID EXTxxx and External Calls show the received CLID. When the phone is redirected to both Internal and external numbers he wants the correct CLI displayed on both phones. So with the redirect operational 1) a call from the outside world to his DID number will show the received CLI(ANI) on both devices - this works BUT 2) a call from an office extension needs to show EXTxxx on the extension (Ext400) but show the office telephone number on the landline so in pseudo code I want to do something like Dial ( SIP/Ext400 using CLID EXT123 SIP/TheWorld/441234567890 using CLID 44112233445566 ) Any ideas ? Paddy Forgot to say - I am using Version 1.4.33.1 Paddy -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: http://www.asterisk.org/hello asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: http://www.asterisk.org/hello asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Calling Line Identity - any ideas
I'll see if I can make it a little clearer for you... When ext 123 makes a call to another SIP device through the server but not requiring a middleman (i.e. a third party provider that allows you to dial to parties outside the immediate control of your PBX) to accomplish the call, what happens is Asterisk sets the CallerID on leg B of the call (the leg that's going to the other internal extension) to Ext 123's configured CLID. However, when you call through a provider (the middleman), the call has to use a peer/friend definition OTHER than the original one (Ext 123's)...it has to perform the call via the friend account you made for ABCTelco, which could have included the CallerID information you wanted displayed over all calls being sent outbound through that provider... Here's a really simple way to view this... In the dialplan, the call to another internal extension is dialed thus: Dial(SIP/456) However, when you're dialing through a peer (middleman, provider, whatever) it looks like this: Dial(SIP/3148083...@provider) See, the @ indicates that you want asterisk to use another account as a trunk to reach the number you're dialing. In your dialplan, when you dial the outside world, what's after the @? Whatever it is, go to that entry in your sip.conf, and you'll be 90% of the way home On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 2:54 AM, Paddy Grice pa...@wizaner.com wrote: Hi Sherwood Maybe my miss-understanding sip.conf I will try and see what happens - but I don't understand how sip would know which CLID to send to each sip endpoint - internal or external. BTW this is all to get return of missed calls working. I don't know if this makes it any clearer - An internal call from Ext123 should send 123 as the CLID to SIP/Ext400 but should send 442071110123 to SIP/TheWorld but an external call from 44123455667788 should send the received CLID 44123455667788 to both. Will check up on sip.conf Paddy -Original Message- From: Sherwood McGowan [mailto:sherwood.mcgo...@gmail.com] Sent: 19 August 2010 08:35 To: pa...@wizaner.com; Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] Calling Line Identity - any ideas I'd have to say off the top of my head that this should already work as long as the trunk you're sending calls to the outside world over has the CallerID setting set AND probably sendrpid=yes...in the sip configuration for both of those items...past that, I could dig a bit Cheers, Sherwood McGowan On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 2:25 AM, Paddy Grice pa...@wizaner.com wrote: From: asterisk-users-boun...@lists.digium.com [mailto:asterisk-users-boun...@lists.digium.com] On Behalf Of Paddy Grice Sent: 19 August 2010 08:21 To: asterisk-users@lists.digium.com Subject: [asterisk-users] Calling Line Identity - any ideas Hi list I have a requirement that I just don't know how to address - I don't think its strange but can't find any pointers anywhere. I have a user that wishes to have a multi phone divert. By that I mean calls made to his extension say Ext200 can be redirected to a different extension say Ext400 and also to his home landline. Doing the dial is fine using Dial(SIP/Ext400SIP/TheWorld/441234567890) The problem is CLID - At the moment internal calls (Ext to Ext) show a CLID EXTxxx and External Calls show the received CLID. When the phone is redirected to both Internal and external numbers he wants the correct CLI displayed on both phones. So with the redirect operational 1) a call from the outside world to his DID number will show the received CLI(ANI) on both devices - this works BUT 2) a call from an office extension needs to show EXTxxx on the extension (Ext400) but show the office telephone number on the landline so in pseudo code I want to do something like Dial ( SIP/Ext400 using CLID EXT123 SIP/TheWorld/441234567890 using CLID 44112233445566 ) Any ideas ? Paddy Forgot to say - I am using Version 1.4.33.1 Paddy -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: http://www.asterisk.org/hello asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: http://www.asterisk.org/hello asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Calling Line Identity - any ideas
Hi,
here is a trick for you!
exten = s,1,Dial(SIP/Ext400Local/${EXTEN}/home-context)
[home-context]
exten = s,1,Set(CALLERID(num)=44112233445566)
exten = s,1,Dial(SIP/TheWorld/441234567890)
Regards
On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 12:21 PM, Paddy Grice pa...@wizaner.com wrote:
Hi list
I have a requirement that I just don't know how to address - I don't think
its strange but can't find any pointers anywhere.
I have a user that wishes to have a multi phone divert. By that I mean
calls made to his extension say Ext200 can be redirected to a different
extension say Ext400 and also to his home landline.
Doing the dial is fine using Dial(SIP/Ext400SIP/TheWorld/441234567890)
The problem is CLID -
At the moment internal calls (Ext to Ext) show a CLID EXTxxx and External
Calls show the received CLID.
When the phone is redirected to both Internal and external numbers he wants
the correct CLI displayed on both phones.
So with the redirect operational
1) a call from the outside world to his DID number will show the received
CLI(ANI) on both devices - this works
BUT
2) a call from an office extension needs to show EXTxxx on the extension
(Ext400) but show the office telephone number on the landline
so in pseudo code I want to do something like
Dial ( SIP/Ext400 using CLID EXT123 SIP/TheWorld/441234567890 using
CLID 44112233445566 )
Any ideas ?
Paddy
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Re: [asterisk-users] Calling Line Identity - any ideas
little syntax mistake, try this
exten = s,1,Dial(SIP/Ext400Local/${ext...@home-context)
[home-context]
exten = s,1,Set(CALLERID(num)=44112233445566)
exten = s,n,Dial(SIP/TheWorld/441234567890)
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Re: [asterisk-users] Calling Line Identity - any ideas
On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 4:11 AM, Nasir Iqbal na...@ictinnovations.com wrote:
little syntax mistake, try this
exten = s,1,Dial(SIP/Ext400Local/${ext...@home-context)
[home-context]
exten = s,1,Set(CALLERID(num)=44112233445566)
exten = s,n,Dial(SIP/TheWorld/441234567890)
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Noo Please let's not go down that nasty trail of using
local channels...ugh...besides, there's still no conceivable reason
why one would need to do anything out of the ordinary, the party being
called outside the office will have to be sent through the provider,
in which case the external CLID should be defined already
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Re: [asterisk-users] Calling Line Identity - any ideas
Hi, there's still no conceivable reason What can be? except performance! (as asterisk has to create one additional leg and bridge it) Which is very conceivable to those who are dealing with high load traffic. And what will be the option, if other outgoing call requires different custom CLI while using the same trunk? Regards -- Nasir Iqbal ICT Innovations http://www.ictinnovations.com/ -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: http://www.asterisk.org/hello asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Calling Line Identity - any ideas
On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 7:46 PM, Nasir Iqbal na...@ictinnovations.com wrote: Hi, there's still no conceivable reason What can be? except performance! (as asterisk has to create one additional leg and bridge it) Which is very conceivable to those who are dealing with high load traffic. And what will be the option, if other outgoing call requires different custom CLI while using the same trunk? Regards -- Nasir Iqbal ICT Innovations http://www.ictinnovations.com/ -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: http://www.asterisk.org/hello asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users First, the reason is, why use a BAD IDEA when there's perfectly good solutions in front of the user There was no mention on this ONE call going outbound over the trunk needing a different CID...the request was as follows: Client needs to call an INTERNAL extension, where the INTERNAL CallerID will be used, and at the SAME TIME, a call to an EXTERNAL number (which would necessitate USING THEIR PROVIDER TRUNK), using the EXTERNAL CallerID Now, p-lease tell me how just configuring the damned trunk's outbound CID is NOT more sensible, efficient, and just friggin' COMMON SENSE TO START WITH...over using a Local channel call, which would require slightly more typing, and using something that I've almost NEVER found a good reason to use, and if you'd care to search the damn archives, you'll see that I was pushing upwards of 5k CONCURRENT CALLS back in 2005, WITH 1.4 Trunk and the RealTime addiiton (which was experimental)... For the love of whatever you find holy and good and true...don't come at me like that...I'm really not in the mood anymore...I put 3-4 solid years of helpjng newbies figure out why shit didn't work, reporting REAL bugs and issues to thew developers and even assisting with some of the fixesI feel entitled (yes, I know that's an asshole thing to say) to a little common respect Now...anyone for a pint? I'm off to vent some frustration with people who jump on the WRONG bandwagon and try to take over Sherwood Mother-F'in' McGowanb... Telecommunications and Tattooing You konw anyone else who combines those two professions? I'd like to buy that guy a drink! -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: http://www.asterisk.org/hello asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Calling Line Identity - any ideas
Hi Sherwood I actually do want dynamic CLID as I tried to make clearer I don't know if this makes it any clearer - An internal call from Ext123 should send 123 as the CLID to SIP/Ext400 but should send 442071110123 to SIP/TheWorld but an external call from 44123455667788 should send the received CLID 44123455667788 to both. So over the provider connection the CLID will be different for different calls. Setting the main office number in sip.conf is fine as a default but as the code/dialplan needs to set cli for some calls I actually set CLID for all calls. This setting and onward transmission by provider works fine. So what I am trying to do is call 2 different sip endpoints AT THE SAME TIME presenting different AND VARIABLE CLIs. If Nasir's trick is not recommended what is the best way to achieve this. As a newbie to Asterisk advise and best practice gained from user experience is always welcome. Paddy -Original Message- From: asterisk-users-boun...@lists.digium.com [mailto:asterisk-users-boun...@lists.digium.com] On Behalf Of Sherwood McGowan Sent: 20 August 2010 04:58 To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] Calling Line Identity - any ideas On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 7:46 PM, Nasir Iqbal na...@ictinnovations.com wrote: Hi, there's still no conceivable reason What can be? except performance! (as asterisk has to create one additional leg and bridge it) Which is very conceivable to those who are dealing with high load traffic. And what will be the option, if other outgoing call requires different custom CLI while using the same trunk? Regards -- Nasir Iqbal ICT Innovations http://www.ictinnovations.com/ -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: http://www.asterisk.org/hello asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users First, the reason is, why use a BAD IDEA when there's perfectly good solutions in front of the user There was no mention on this ONE call going outbound over the trunk needing a different CID...the request was as follows: Client needs to call an INTERNAL extension, where the INTERNAL CallerID will be used, and at the SAME TIME, a call to an EXTERNAL number (which would necessitate USING THEIR PROVIDER TRUNK), using the EXTERNAL CallerID Now, p-lease tell me how just configuring the damned trunk's outbound CID is NOT more sensible, efficient, and just friggin' COMMON SENSE TO START WITH...over using a Local channel call, which would require slightly more typing, and using something that I've almost NEVER found a good reason to use, and if you'd care to search the damn archives, you'll see that I was pushing upwards of 5k CONCURRENT CALLS back in 2005, WITH 1.4 Trunk and the RealTime addiiton (which was experimental)... For the love of whatever you find holy and good and true...don't come at me like that...I'm really not in the mood anymore...I put 3-4 solid years of helpjng newbies figure out why shit didn't work, reporting REAL bugs and issues to thew developers and even assisting with some of the fixesI feel entitled (yes, I know that's an asshole thing to say) to a little common respect Now...anyone for a pint? I'm off to vent some frustration with people who jump on the WRONG bandwagon and try to take over Sherwood Mother-F'in' McGowanb... Telecommunications and Tattooing You konw anyone else who combines those two professions? I'd like to buy that guy a drink! -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: http://www.asterisk.org/hello asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
