Re: [asterisk-users] Centile ipbx, anyone heard of this?
On Tue, Jun 24, 2008 at 4:50 PM, Michael Graves [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Randy, This is exactly what was happening when I used an Aastra 480i CT with OnSIP. According to OnSIP it's not a supported phone, although the newer 57i CT does work with OnSIP. It seemed that the phone was losing registration with the provider. I was not able to overcome this in the phone or provider settings. Hi Michael, I'm writing you privately for a reason you will immediately understand. In a moment of frustration, I set up the AA50 asterisk appliance, thinking, hey, I can have the best of all possible worlds here, including all my dialplans and kludges and still benefit from the centrex. Because I only have a single DSL at the moment, I messed with this but didn't get it running completely. I'm pretty sure it will work if I want to go that way, once the AA50 is acting as a router and not behind one. However, eason the Siemens wasn't accepting calls is simpler than I thought: I had accept calls unchecked for that provider on both handsets!!! I guess I must have done this while testing another phone on the same account parameters. D'oh! So you saw that JR Richardson is talking anbout scaling on the conference Friday. I decided to do one after all, from the office at the usual time. Also, got a guest post in voipsupply blog. You're next! Best, Randy ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- AstriCon 2008 - September 22 - 25 Phoenix, Arizona Register Now: http://www.astricon.net asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Centile ipbx, anyone heard of this?
On Tue, Jun 24, 2008 at 4:50 PM, Michael Graves [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is very similar to another idea that I once had but never actually implemented. That is, using a small embedded Asterisk device as a SIPIAX2 protocol translator to facilitate complex NAT traversal. I thought that Astlinux on Gumstix hardware would be ideal for such a task. Interesting thought, that. Use an embedded asterisk to act as a concentrator on the NAT side. Why not? /r ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- AstriCon 2008 - September 22 - 25 Phoenix, Arizona Register Now: http://www.astricon.net asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Centile ipbx, anyone heard of this?
Private messagind:) 2008/6/25 randulo [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Tue, Jun 24, 2008 at 4:50 PM, Michael Graves [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Randy, This is exactly what was happening when I used an Aastra 480i CT with OnSIP. According to OnSIP it's not a supported phone, although the newer 57i CT does work with OnSIP. It seemed that the phone was losing registration with the provider. I was not able to overcome this in the phone or provider settings. Hi Michael, I'm writing you privately for a reason you will immediately understand. In a moment of frustration, I set up the AA50 asterisk appliance, thinking, hey, I can have the best of all possible worlds here, including all my dialplans and kludges and still benefit from the centrex. Because I only have a single DSL at the moment, I messed with this but didn't get it running completely. I'm pretty sure it will work if I want to go that way, once the AA50 is acting as a router and not behind one. However, eason the Siemens wasn't accepting calls is simpler than I thought: I had accept calls unchecked for that provider on both handsets!!! I guess I must have done this while testing another phone on the same account parameters. D'oh! So you saw that JR Richardson is talking anbout scaling on the conference Friday. I decided to do one after all, from the office at the usual time. Also, got a guest post in voipsupply blog. You're next! Best, Randy ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- AstriCon 2008 - September 22 - 25 Phoenix, Arizona Register Now: http://www.astricon.net asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- AstriCon 2008 - September 22 - 25 Phoenix, Arizona Register Now: http://www.astricon.net asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Centile ipbx, anyone heard of this?
Nothing that embarrassing,just didn't want to mention the even more OT stuff. Everyone already knows I do not too bright things like turning a phone off and then complaining it doesn't work :) On Wed, Jun 25, 2008 at 12:39 PM, Grygoriy Dobrovolskyy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Private messagind:) ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- AstriCon 2008 - September 22 - 25 Phoenix, Arizona Register Now: http://www.astricon.net asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Centile ipbx, anyone heard of this?
Dont worry i did a lot worse. 2008/6/25 randulo [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Nothing that embarrassing,just didn't want to mention the even more OT stuff. Everyone already knows I do not too bright things like turning a phone off and then complaining it doesn't work :) On Wed, Jun 25, 2008 at 12:39 PM, Grygoriy Dobrovolskyy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Private messagind:) ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- AstriCon 2008 - September 22 - 25 Phoenix, Arizona Register Now: http://www.astricon.net asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- AstriCon 2008 - September 22 - 25 Phoenix, Arizona Register Now: http://www.astricon.net asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Centile ipbx, anyone heard of this?
On Tue, Jun 24, 2008 at 5:58 AM, C. Savinovich [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: To be fair, Centile is better geared than asterisk for virtual pbx hosting. It comes with a system to manage virtual pbxs... it also handles the provisioning of most ip phones adequately, it is a totally different pbx although linux based. Interesting. Yes, it has a few phones it knows how to provision. I am using generic SIP device for both the phones currently in use. Although I don't know the details of your setup, it would not surprise me to see Centile accepting 2 different phones with the same extension on the same pbx. Well, my 4AM brainstorm didn't help. The phone I'm having trouble with is my favorite one, a Siemens S675IP. It is registered and works perfectly with 5 other SIP providers. On the Centile pbx, it can make calls but it can not be called. The web admin interface shows the correct public and NAT ip addresses and shows the phone in service. Calling it from another phone rings once and then goes to congestion, or at least that's the signal I hear. (It's wierd not being able to ssh in and see what's happening.) ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- AstriCon 2008 - September 22 - 25 Phoenix, Arizona Register Now: http://www.astricon.net asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Centile ipbx, anyone heard of this?
Of course you can ssh. And you can trace whats going on at 3 different levels. You can also open a trouble ticket with them. CS -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of randulo Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 2008 2:29 AM To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] Centile ipbx, anyone heard of this? On Tue, Jun 24, 2008 at 5:58 AM, C. Savinovich [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: To be fair, Centile is better geared than asterisk for virtual pbx hosting. It comes with a system to manage virtual pbxs... it also handles the provisioning of most ip phones adequately, it is a totally different pbx although linux based. Interesting. Yes, it has a few phones it knows how to provision. I am using generic SIP device for both the phones currently in use. Although I don't know the details of your setup, it would not surprise me to see Centile accepting 2 different phones with the same extension on the same pbx. Well, my 4AM brainstorm didn't help. The phone I'm having trouble with is my favorite one, a Siemens S675IP. It is registered and works perfectly with 5 other SIP providers. On the Centile pbx, it can make calls but it can not be called. The web admin interface shows the correct public and NAT ip addresses and shows the phone in service. Calling it from another phone rings once and then goes to congestion, or at least that's the signal I hear. (It's wierd not being able to ssh in and see what's happening.) ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- AstriCon 2008 - September 22 - 25 Phoenix, Arizona Register Now: http://www.astricon.net asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- AstriCon 2008 - September 22 - 25 Phoenix, Arizona Register Now: http://www.astricon.net asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Centile ipbx, anyone heard of this?
On Tue, Jun 24, 2008 at 3:22 PM, C. Savinovich [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Of course you can ssh. And you can trace whats going on at 3 different levels. You can also open a trouble ticket with them. No, I don't have the auth to ssh, but in the end it was a config error on my end. The fact that they patiently worked through this (there was a ticket, I just like to get more input from experienced people) and that they got it running confirms I made the right choice of people to work with. Great service and mea culpa, I am not worthy. I really wondered why a phone would work with every other provider and asterisk 1.2 and not on this thing. thx again for the input. ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- AstriCon 2008 - September 22 - 25 Phoenix, Arizona Register Now: http://www.astricon.net asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Centile ipbx, anyone heard of this?
On Tue, 24 Jun 2008 08:28:35 +0200, randulo wrote: On Tue, Jun 24, 2008 at 5:58 AM, C. Savinovich [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: To be fair, Centile is better geared than asterisk for virtual pbx hosting. It comes with a system to manage virtual pbxs... it also handles the provisioning of most ip phones adequately, it is a totally different pbx although linux based. Interesting. Yes, it has a few phones it knows how to provision. I am using generic SIP device for both the phones currently in use. Although I don't know the details of your setup, it would not surprise me to see Centile accepting 2 different phones with the same extension on the same pbx. Well, my 4AM brainstorm didn't help. The phone I'm having trouble with is my favorite one, a Siemens S675IP. It is registered and works perfectly with 5 other SIP providers. On the Centile pbx, it can make calls but it can not be called. The web admin interface shows the correct public and NAT ip addresses and shows the phone in service. Calling it from another phone rings once and then goes to congestion, or at least that's the signal I hear. (It's wierd not being able to ssh in and see what's happening.) Randy, This is exactly what was happening when I used an Aastra 480i CT with OnSIP. According to OnSIP it's not a supported phone, although the newer 57i CT does work with OnSIP. It seemed that the phone was losing registration with the provider. I was not able to overcome this in the phone or provider settings. My ultimate solution was to build a small Asterisk instance (Astlinux) on a thin client (HP T5700) and use it strickly as a bridge device for the phone. For whatever reason, the Astlinux box could sustain the registration and pass the incomming calls to the phone. This is very similar to another idea that I once had but never actually implemented. That is, using a small embedded Asterisk device as a SIPIAX2 protocol translator to facilitate complex NAT traversal. I thought that Astlinux on Gumstix hardware would be ideal for such a task. Michael -- Michael Graves mgravesatmstvp.com http://blog.mgraves.org o713-861-4005 c713-201-1262 sip:[EMAIL PROTECTED] skype mjgraves [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- AstriCon 2008 - September 22 - 25 Phoenix, Arizona Register Now: http://www.astricon.net asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
[asterisk-users] Centile ipbx, anyone heard of this?
Hi, I'm interested in finding someone who has used this product. The documentation mentions its use with asterisk, not sure what that even means. This may not be of interest to the list, so feel free to email me if you are at all familiar with this product. tia, rr ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- AstriCon 2008 - September 22 - 25 Phoenix, Arizona Register Now: http://www.astricon.net asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Centile ipbx, anyone heard of this?
They have been around for over 8 years, and their HQ is now in France... -E ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- AstriCon 2008 - September 22 - 25 Phoenix, Arizona Register Now: http://www.astricon.net asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Centile ipbx, anyone heard of this?
On Mon, Jun 23, 2008 at 7:31 PM, EdPimentl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: They have been around for over 8 years, and their HQ is now in France... As is mine! But does anyone know anything about this other than their own docs? r ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- AstriCon 2008 - September 22 - 25 Phoenix, Arizona Register Now: http://www.astricon.net asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Centile ipbx, anyone heard of this?
I do. I spent about a month doing contract work for a company that provides pbx hosting. Their hosting is based on Centile. What do you want to know?... they had about 80 customers (virtual pbxs), 320 ip phones... it seemed to be running ok. I could have done the same thing with asterisk :) CS -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of randulo Sent: Monday, June 23, 2008 3:12 PM To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] Centile ipbx, anyone heard of this? On Mon, Jun 23, 2008 at 7:31 PM, EdPimentl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: They have been around for over 8 years, and their HQ is now in France... As is mine! But does anyone know anything about this other than their own docs? r ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- AstriCon 2008 - September 22 - 25 Phoenix, Arizona Register Now: http://www.astricon.net asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- AstriCon 2008 - September 22 - 25 Phoenix, Arizona Register Now: http://www.astricon.net asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Centile ipbx, anyone heard of this?
On Mon, Jun 23, 2008 at 10:01 PM, C. Savinovich [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: seemed to be running ok. I could have done the same thing with asterisk :) Basically, I was really curious why a company would use this instead of asterisk. Apparently, as I said, there is a reference in the docs, something like if you use asterisk on the same machine (or maybe network), ... I understand why people use SER, but wanted to know about this. When you google centile there's little info. I couldn't sleep, woke up in the middle of the night,, I think I may have solved the problem I was having but I can't test the solution until it's a decent hour (now=4AM). The problem was totally idiotic. I had left a phone on another site and it was registering to the same account as a phone on this site. I believe the way Centile deals with NAT may be part of why it's different from asterisk. Thanks for your comments, /r ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- AstriCon 2008 - September 22 - 25 Phoenix, Arizona Register Now: http://www.astricon.net asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Centile ipbx, anyone heard of this?
To be fair, Centile is better geared than asterisk for virtual pbx hosting. It comes with a system to manage virtual pbxs... it also handles the provisioning of most ip phones adequately, it is a totally different pbx although linux based. Although I don't know the details of your setup, it would not surprise me to see Centile accepting 2 different phones with the same extension on the same pbx. CS -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of randulo Sent: Monday, June 23, 2008 9:58 PM To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] Centile ipbx, anyone heard of this? On Mon, Jun 23, 2008 at 10:01 PM, C. Savinovich [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: seemed to be running ok. I could have done the same thing with asterisk :) Basically, I was really curious why a company would use this instead of asterisk. Apparently, as I said, there is a reference in the docs, something like if you use asterisk on the same machine (or maybe network), ... I understand why people use SER, but wanted to know about this. When you google centile there's little info. I couldn't sleep, woke up in the middle of the night,, I think I may have solved the problem I was having but I can't test the solution until it's a decent hour (now=4AM). The problem was totally idiotic. I had left a phone on another site and it was registering to the same account as a phone on this site. I believe the way Centile deals with NAT may be part of why it's different from asterisk. Thanks for your comments, /r ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- AstriCon 2008 - September 22 - 25 Phoenix, Arizona Register Now: http://www.astricon.net asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- AstriCon 2008 - September 22 - 25 Phoenix, Arizona Register Now: http://www.astricon.net asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
