RE: [asterisk-users] Cisco CAll Manger and H323

2006-09-29 Thread Greg Oliver
On Fri, 2006-09-29 at 20:26 -0700, Dan Austin wrote:
> Greg wrote:
> > 4.1.3 supports SIP trunks - I would HIGHLY recommend you move to that.
> > Anything over 4.0 supports SIP trunking.
> 
> While it is true that CCM 4.0 and up supports SIP trunking, it is not
> all rainbows an butterflies.  The 4.X series implimentation of SIP
> requires a MTP, as the SCCP endpoints do not support standards based
> DTMF.  Additionally only ulaw is supported.
> 
> In 5.X the SCCP endpoints now support RFC2833, but if you have Unity
> or IOS gateways, switching everything to SIP is not trivial.  So for
> some implimentations a decent H323 channel driver is still the best
> option for integration.


That is true, but the CCM itself is an MTP as long as you start the MoH
or Media Streaming services on it..  

I will say that I have not tried the 323 channels in a while (about 8
months or so), but once we switched to SIP, we have had zero issues
whereas before, every 2-3 weeks, * would hiccup requiring a restart..

Our CCM phones are all Skinny since we develop products for CCM - only
using * for vmail, meetme, IVR, etc..  All of our remote (all Cisco)
phones use SIP connected directly to *..

5.x CCM is much more SIP capable moreso than just the phones, but Cisco
has once again done it and sends all kinds of proprietary INVITES to
enable some more features on their phones..  Kinda dissapointing...  I
love the phones, but hate the company..

-Greg

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RE: [asterisk-users] Cisco CAll Manger and H323

2006-09-29 Thread Dan Austin
Greg wrote:
> 4.1.3 supports SIP trunks - I would HIGHLY recommend you move to that.
> Anything over 4.0 supports SIP trunking.

While it is true that CCM 4.0 and up supports SIP trunking, it is not
all rainbows an butterflies.  The 4.X series implimentation of SIP
requires a MTP, as the SCCP endpoints do not support standards based
DTMF.  Additionally only ulaw is supported.

In 5.X the SCCP endpoints now support RFC2833, but if you have Unity
or IOS gateways, switching everything to SIP is not trivial.  So for
some implimentations a decent H323 channel driver is still the best
option for integration.

Dan
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Re: [asterisk-users] Cisco CAll Manger and H323

2006-09-29 Thread Greg Oliver
4.1.3 supports SIP trunks - I would HIGHLY recommend you move to that.
Anything over 4.0 supports SIP trunking.

-Greg

On Thu, 2006-09-28 at 19:32 +0200, Yusuf wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I recently had to hook up to Cisco Call Manager 4.1.3, and it only
> supports H323.  SO I used ooh323, and a strange thing happens.  When a
> Cisco IP user calls from his phone, the call gets sent from Call Manager
> to Asterisk, but the phone will ring once only, then it seems asterisk
> will drop the call, and int he debug it says:  "stopped from reciving
> frames from OOH323/cisco , bridging is being stopped".
> 
> What is wrong?
> 
> What RTP ports must I be using?
> 
> thanks,
> yusuf
> 
> 

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RE: [asterisk-users] Cisco CAll Manger and H323

2006-09-29 Thread Yusuf
Thanks Dan,

that was awesome, and really made sense about what was really happening.  :)
Will try a newer.

BTW: I did get it to successfully route inbound calls to asterisk with
oh323, and DTMF and transfers worked fine.


> Yusuf wrote:
>> Hi Dan,
>
>> I used asterisk 1.2.10 with asterisk-addons 1.2.3.
>> I did two successfull calls, but with dtmf=rfc2833, dtmf was not
>> sending at all.  Then when I made some changes, I could not get any
>> calls to go through.  The call would just hangup after first ring.
> Call Manager's support for RFC2833 is 'lacking'.  It works reasonably
> well in 5.X for SIP, but forget about using it with H323.  I've tested
> all four options with Call Manager, and only q931keypad and h245signal
> worked.  I'd recommend using h245signal.
>
>> Did you get calls going in both ways, inbound and outbound to
> asterisk.
>>  O got two calls going from CAllmanger to asterisk only, other would
> not
>> work.
>
> Calls work both ways, although 99.99% of my calls are inbound, since
> we use Asterisk for conferencing only at this point.
>
> Here are a couple of ideas to try:
>   1.  Set the Call Manager H323 gateway to 'Require MTP'
>   2.  Set DTMF to h245 signal
>
> What is likely happening is that with Asterisk asking for RFC2833,
> CCM tries to invoke a MTP.  I am not sure in which Asterisk-Addons
> version it was added, but I wrote support for Empty Terminal Capability
> sets for chan_ooh323.  If that feature is not in the version you have,
> (chan_ooh323 release 0.5 or newer), and you are not forcing an MTP on
> the CCM gateway you'll see a problem like you have.
>
> I should also point out that if you are not running chan_ooh323 0.5 or
> newer and do get Asterisk to accept calls with out forcing an MTP, calls
> will be dropped anytime a CCM endpoint uses hold or transfer features.
>
> If you do have 0.5 or newer, then changing the DTMF migth be enough.
>
> Hope this helps,
> Dan
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thanks,
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RE: [asterisk-users] Cisco CAll Manger and H323

2006-09-29 Thread Dan Austin
Yusuf wrote:
> Hi Dan,

> I used asterisk 1.2.10 with asterisk-addons 1.2.3.
> I did two successfull calls, but with dtmf=rfc2833, dtmf was not 
> sending at all.  Then when I made some changes, I could not get any
> calls to go through.  The call would just hangup after first ring.
Call Manager's support for RFC2833 is 'lacking'.  It works reasonably
well in 5.X for SIP, but forget about using it with H323.  I've tested
all four options with Call Manager, and only q931keypad and h245signal
worked.  I'd recommend using h245signal.

> Did you get calls going in both ways, inbound and outbound to
asterisk.
>  O got two calls going from CAllmanger to asterisk only, other would
not
> work.

Calls work both ways, although 99.99% of my calls are inbound, since
we use Asterisk for conferencing only at this point.

Here are a couple of ideas to try:
1.  Set the Call Manager H323 gateway to 'Require MTP'
2.  Set DTMF to h245 signal

What is likely happening is that with Asterisk asking for RFC2833,
CCM tries to invoke a MTP.  I am not sure in which Asterisk-Addons
version it was added, but I wrote support for Empty Terminal Capability
sets for chan_ooh323.  If that feature is not in the version you have,
(chan_ooh323 release 0.5 or newer), and you are not forcing an MTP on
the CCM gateway you'll see a problem like you have.

I should also point out that if you are not running chan_ooh323 0.5 or
newer and do get Asterisk to accept calls with out forcing an MTP, calls
will be dropped anytime a CCM endpoint uses hold or transfer features.

If you do have 0.5 or newer, then changing the DTMF migth be enough.

Hope this helps,
Dan
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Re: [asterisk-users] Cisco CAll Manger and H323

2006-09-28 Thread yusuf

Hi Dan,

I used asterisk 1.2.10 with asterisk-addons 1.2.3.
I did two successfull calls, but with dtmf=rfc2833, dtmf was not sending at all.
Then when I made some changes, I could not get any calls to go through.  The call would just hangup 
after first ring.


Did you get calls going in both ways, inbound and outbound to asterisk.  O got two calls going from 
CAllmanger to asterisk only, other would not work.


Dan Austin wrote:

I've used chan_ooh323 with Call Manager version 3.3, 4.0, 4.1
and now 5.0 with great success.

Which version of Asterisk-addons are you using and which
version of Asterisk?  


I have a very simple config.  I seem to remember an issue
if bindaddr was not set, or left to 0.0.0.0, but I might
be thinking of another channel.

I have faststart set to no and dtmfmode set to h245signal
with all other settings using the defaults.  Let me know
if this doesn't help, I can try to provide more details.

Dan

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Hi,

I recently had to hook up to Cisco Call Manager 4.1.3, and it only
supports H323.  SO I used ooh323, and a strange thing happens.  When a
Cisco IP user calls from his phone, the call gets sent from Call Manager
to Asterisk, but the phone will ring once only, then it seems asterisk
will drop the call, and int he debug it says:  "stopped from reciving
frames from OOH323/cisco , bridging is being stopped".

What is wrong?

What RTP ports must I be using?

thanks,
yusuf





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RE: [asterisk-users] Cisco CAll Manger and H323

2006-09-28 Thread Dan Austin
I've used chan_ooh323 with Call Manager version 3.3, 4.0, 4.1
and now 5.0 with great success.

Which version of Asterisk-addons are you using and which
version of Asterisk?  

I have a very simple config.  I seem to remember an issue
if bindaddr was not set, or left to 0.0.0.0, but I might
be thinking of another channel.

I have faststart set to no and dtmfmode set to h245signal
with all other settings using the defaults.  Let me know
if this doesn't help, I can try to provide more details.

Dan

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Subject: [asterisk-users] Cisco CAll Manger and H323


Hi,

I recently had to hook up to Cisco Call Manager 4.1.3, and it only
supports H323.  SO I used ooh323, and a strange thing happens.  When a
Cisco IP user calls from his phone, the call gets sent from Call Manager
to Asterisk, but the phone will ring once only, then it seems asterisk
will drop the call, and int he debug it says:  "stopped from reciving
frames from OOH323/cisco , bridging is being stopped".

What is wrong?

What RTP ports must I be using?

thanks,
yusuf


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[asterisk-users] Cisco CAll Manger and H323

2006-09-28 Thread Yusuf

Hi,

I recently had to hook up to Cisco Call Manager 4.1.3, and it only
supports H323.  SO I used ooh323, and a strange thing happens.  When a
Cisco IP user calls from his phone, the call gets sent from Call Manager
to Asterisk, but the phone will ring once only, then it seems asterisk
will drop the call, and int he debug it says:  "stopped from reciving
frames from OOH323/cisco , bridging is being stopped".

What is wrong?

What RTP ports must I be using?

thanks,
yusuf


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