Re: [asterisk-users] DECT phone for home: siemens A510 v. Grandstream DP715

2012-12-29 Thread Pete Mundy
Hi Roy & others.

Sorry for the delayed reply to this thread. The holiday period delayed my 
testing of the A510 and C610 range further, but I have now had a chance to give 
them a little 'ear time'.

On 12/12/2012, at 5:30 PM, Co-op Vacation Rentals  wrote:

> Thanks for testing these out.  You said you like the 510 vs 580.  Which one 
> is newer?  I have the 580.  I'm staying tuned for your review of the 610.  
> The 580 isn't DECT compatible and only supports some of the Gigaset handsets.
> I might sell mine and upgrade depending on what you learn about it.
> 
> Can you tell me a little more about what you are testing for?
> Quality?
> Simultaneous In/Outgoing Calls using 1 or Multiple SIP accounts.
> Conference Calling?
> Any other Features?

My tests were just for basic functionality of the devices as normal run of the 
mill phones. I wanted to know for example, weather they had any annoying 
'glitches' like the 580's insistence on telling me "You have new messages" when 
there is only a missed call, or other practical usage issues.

After testing the A510 and C610 my opinion is that I would go for the C610 any 
day. I suspect the A510 is a 'newer' release than the A580 (which seems to be 
EOL now), however I'm not entirely certain about that. The web GUI for the 510 
and the 610 are visually very similar, but both are different to the 580. I 
suspect the 510/610 run a newer shared firmware which has evolved from the 580 
(the 510/610 GUI gives hints of this and it looks overall far more polished 
than the 580).

The 510 handset is quite basic (lower-res mono with coloured backlight). The 
610 handset is visually similar to the 510 (although not the same), but more 
glossy and has a much nicer LCD (colour, higher res). I suspect the 610's 
handset CPU is a little faster too.

I'm surprised to hear you say the 580 isn't DECT compatible. It's manual 
indicates it supports both DECT and GAP, so should be able to take handset 
registrations from other brand handsets (and also register the Gigaset handsets 
with other DECT bases, if desired). Is this not your experience?

I note that the range of other Gigaset handsets compatible with the 580 base is 
a reasonable list too, as shown at hte URL you provided:

> http://gigaset.com/us/en/cms/PageCustomerServicesCompatibility.html


Your link indicates that the C610H handset can be used with your A580OIP base. 
I reckon that would be worth giving a try because the 610 is a nice handset and 
if it works with your bases then it might be a good solution for additional 
phones.

I haven't tested this at all with the 580, but I can confirm that the A510 and 
C610 do happily interoperate with each other (ie, I was able to register my 
A510H with the C610 base and then my C610H with the A510 base). Once the second 
handset was registered with the base, I created a second SIP account login 
definition and assigned the first account to the first handset and the second 
account to the second handset. You can define which handsets receive incoming 
calls on a per SIP account basis and also define which SIP account each handset 
will use for outgoing calls on an individual handset basis.

The configuration options available on each model of base (510/610) appear to 
be identical. This is what makes me think they share a common firmware.

Both handsets do provide notification for missed calls, but thankfully they can 
be configured via the base-station configuration to not flash their MWI led for 
this condition.

What I haven't tried (due to not having any) is registering a standard DECT 
cordless (one that comes with a PoTS analog base) to either of the Gigaset 
base-stations. If that does work OK (fingers crossed), these base-stations 
could be a great upgrade for households with existing analog DECT cordlesses.

Anyway, to wrap up, a note on the other items you asked - I did test 2 
simultaneous SIP calls on separate accounts (and also calling each other via 
the Asterisk server). I only tested with ulaw since that's all we use on this 
server. So note that I haven't tested running 2 concurrent calls using a CPU 
intensive codec; that would be interesting, but out of scope for what I'm 
looking right now. Call quality with 2 ulaw calls in progress is great, just as 
good as a single. I didn't give 3-way conference any decent time testing I'm 
afraid. I did have a shot at it following the instructions in the manual on the 
610 but seemed to only be able to effect a call transfer, not a 3-way bridge. 
But I really didn't give that any decent time and I'm fairly sure that it was 
me doing something wrong there before moving on and not going back.

I have both phones here for another fortnight or so. If there is something 
specific you want tested then let me know and I'll see if I can oblige. 
Otherwise my recommendation is focus on the 610 for now - it's a nice wee phone 
which isn't all that much more expensive, and possibly able to be retro-fitted 
to your existing bas

Re: [asterisk-users] DECT phone for home: siemens A510 v. Grandstream DP715

2012-12-12 Thread sean darcy

On 12/11/2012 10:12 PM, Mitul Limbani wrote:

snom m9 dect ip


But it's 2-3 x the price!

sean


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Re: [asterisk-users] DECT phone for home: siemens A510 v. Grandstream DP715

2012-12-11 Thread Co-op Vacation Rentals

Pete,

Thanks for testing these out.  You said you like the 510 vs 580. Which 
one is newer?  I have the 580.  I'm staying tuned for your review of the 
610.  The 580 isn't DECT compatible and only supports some of the 
Gigaset handsets.

I might sell mine and upgrade depending on what you learn about it.

Can you tell me a little more about what you are testing for?
Quality?
Simultaneous In/Outgoing Calls using 1 or Multiple SIP accounts.
Conference Calling?
Any other Features?


On 12/11/2012 08:17 PM, Pete Mundy wrote:

At the risk of continuing off-topic conversation...

Oh the M9 has it's own issues, don't you worry (not to mention it's _way_ more 
expensive than the Gigaset range)!

I've been testing the A510 today and I've decided I like it more than the A580. 
The software (via the web interface) looks more polished and overall thus far 
it has performed fairly well (with no annoying 'new message' statement!). I 
haven't tried multiple SIP registrations with dual handsets yet, but I intend 
to. You guys realise these are standardised DECT handsets right? Ie that's 
where the 6-handset limitation comes from, and you should theoretically be able 
to register other manufacturers' handsets too.

I'm about to try the C610IP model that Kai-Uwe mentioned (over the next few 
days). I think I'll like even more than the A580 since it has a higher 
resolution colour display. And even then it's still miles cheaper than the M9!

Don't get me wrong, I do really like Snom phones too, although the M9 hasn't 
been entirely smooth sailing. I love the 320 desk phone (at the cheaper end of 
the scale, it has a great feel to it).

Isn't it great that they all interact with Asterisk so well (there you go, I'm 
on-topic again ;-).

Pete


On 12/12/2012, at 4:12 PM, Mitul Limbani  wrote:


Mebbe you guys should try snom m9 dect ip phone, i have been using it since 
over 3 years now without any of these issues.

Mitul

On Dec 12, 2012 4:25 AM, "Kai-Uwe Jensen"  wrote:
Using a Gigaset C610IP here, and am very happy with the features. The base 
station can handle two concurrent SIP calls, and another internal one at that. 
It does it with a single SIP registration to each server. You can setup 
multiple servers if you want to and define dial patterns/plans that determine 
which server gets used. After some playing around with it, I'm now using my 
setup connected to a single asterisk only. (Let asterisk make call routing 
decisions based on cost, using an AGI)

Call transfer is working fine, the handsets have a Flash/R key to accomplish 
this. Using the Flash lets you start a second call, and once answered you can 
easily conference the second party in (softkey right on the screen), or 
transfer the call to the other party (via menu, then transfer). Using this 
capability, someone on a call can easily confer with another party, and bridge 
them into the call. AFAIK it is not possible for someone to join an existing 
call easily. You'd have to implement that in asterisk's dialplan, not on the 
Gigaset phone.

My understanding is that the C610IP has a few more features than the 510. I 
might've also read somewhere that the 510 is obsolete. Can't find that link 
right now, but search mgraves.org (use the Gigaset tag to get some initial 
results).


On Tue, Dec 11, 2012 at 2:37 PM, Roy Abshire  wrote:
That is true about the A580.

I don't like the interface much to check messages.

Besides that every time I go to dial a number...it always uses the first digit 
pressed to go into phone mode..so I have to press the first digit twice...

I would test other phones but it's for home and I can't fork over $$ to try 
them all out

I have tested some Nokia cell phones, the N97, N900, and E71 and the E71 and 
N900 worked well.  I didn't like the N97.


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On 12/11/2012 12:52 PM, Pete Mundy wrote:

One thing I dislike about the A580H is that the handset always says 'You have 
new messages' if I've missed a call. It wouldn't bug me if it said 'missed 
call' but it tells me I have new messages and even lights up a red LED under a 
button with a picture of an envelope on it.

I'm about to test an A510IP and an A610IP to compare against the A580. Fingers 
crossed neither of them has that issue, because the Gigaset phone is a pretty 
good phone other than that, and the difficulty doing a (blind) transfer, as 
referred to by the OP.

Pete


On 12/12/2012, at 8:57 AM, Roy Abshire

  wrote:



I've been using the Gigaset A580 Base and A58H Phone for about 3 years now.  
Never gave me problems. The call Quality is excellent!
I only have 1 handset connected to the Base but I want more. I bought a Linksys 
WIP330 as a 2nd phone to try out and that works just as good without a base 
unit.

The A580 Base supports up to 6 handsets.

I have 6 Incoming VOIP Numbers using separate SIP accounts pointed to 1 Handset 
but you can poin

Re: [asterisk-users] DECT phone for home: siemens A510 v. Grandstream DP715

2012-12-11 Thread Pete Mundy
At the risk of continuing off-topic conversation...

Oh the M9 has it's own issues, don't you worry (not to mention it's _way_ more 
expensive than the Gigaset range)!

I've been testing the A510 today and I've decided I like it more than the A580. 
The software (via the web interface) looks more polished and overall thus far 
it has performed fairly well (with no annoying 'new message' statement!). I 
haven't tried multiple SIP registrations with dual handsets yet, but I intend 
to. You guys realise these are standardised DECT handsets right? Ie that's 
where the 6-handset limitation comes from, and you should theoretically be able 
to register other manufacturers' handsets too.

I'm about to try the C610IP model that Kai-Uwe mentioned (over the next few 
days). I think I'll like even more than the A580 since it has a higher 
resolution colour display. And even then it's still miles cheaper than the M9!

Don't get me wrong, I do really like Snom phones too, although the M9 hasn't 
been entirely smooth sailing. I love the 320 desk phone (at the cheaper end of 
the scale, it has a great feel to it).

Isn't it great that they all interact with Asterisk so well (there you go, I'm 
on-topic again ;-).

Pete


On 12/12/2012, at 4:12 PM, Mitul Limbani  wrote:

> Mebbe you guys should try snom m9 dect ip phone, i have been using it since 
> over 3 years now without any of these issues.
> 
> Mitul
> 
> On Dec 12, 2012 4:25 AM, "Kai-Uwe Jensen"  wrote:
> Using a Gigaset C610IP here, and am very happy with the features. The base 
> station can handle two concurrent SIP calls, and another internal one at 
> that. It does it with a single SIP registration to each server. You can setup 
> multiple servers if you want to and define dial patterns/plans that determine 
> which server gets used. After some playing around with it, I'm now using my 
> setup connected to a single asterisk only. (Let asterisk make call routing 
> decisions based on cost, using an AGI)
> 
> Call transfer is working fine, the handsets have a Flash/R key to accomplish 
> this. Using the Flash lets you start a second call, and once answered you can 
> easily conference the second party in (softkey right on the screen), or 
> transfer the call to the other party (via menu, then transfer). Using this 
> capability, someone on a call can easily confer with another party, and 
> bridge them into the call. AFAIK it is not possible for someone to join an 
> existing call easily. You'd have to implement that in asterisk's dialplan, 
> not on the Gigaset phone.
> 
> My understanding is that the C610IP has a few more features than the 510. I 
> might've also read somewhere that the 510 is obsolete. Can't find that link 
> right now, but search mgraves.org (use the Gigaset tag to get some initial 
> results).
> 
> 
> On Tue, Dec 11, 2012 at 2:37 PM, Roy Abshire  wrote:
> That is true about the A580. 
> 
> I don't like the interface much to check messages.
> 
> Besides that every time I go to dial a number...it always uses the first 
> digit pressed to go into phone mode..so I have to press the first digit 
> twice...
> 
> I would test other phones but it's for home and I can't fork over $$ to try 
> them all out
> 
> I have tested some Nokia cell phones, the N97, N900, and E71 and the E71 and 
> N900 worked well.  I didn't like the N97.
> 
> 
> Co-op Vacation Rentals
> 
> www.coopvr.com
> 
> 15218 Summit Ave 
> Suite #300-354
> Fontana, CA 92336
> Phone/Fax (855) 760-COOP (2667)
> 
> On 12/11/2012 12:52 PM, Pete Mundy wrote:
>> One thing I dislike about the A580H is that the handset always says 'You 
>> have new messages' if I've missed a call. It wouldn't bug me if it said 
>> 'missed call' but it tells me I have new messages and even lights up a red 
>> LED under a button with a picture of an envelope on it.
>> 
>> I'm about to test an A510IP and an A610IP to compare against the A580. 
>> Fingers crossed neither of them has that issue, because the Gigaset phone is 
>> a pretty good phone other than that, and the difficulty doing a (blind) 
>> transfer, as referred to by the OP.
>> 
>> Pete
>> 
>> 
>> On 12/12/2012, at 8:57 AM, Roy Abshire 
>> 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>>> I've been using the Gigaset A580 Base and A58H Phone for about 3 years now. 
>>>  Never gave me problems. The call Quality is excellent!
>>> I only have 1 handset connected to the Base but I want more. I bought a 
>>> Linksys WIP330 as a 2nd phone to try out and that works just as good 
>>> without a base unit.
>>> 
>>> The A580 Base supports up to 6 handsets.
>>> 
>>> I have 6 Incoming VOIP Numbers using separate SIP accounts pointed to 1 
>>> Handset but you can point each SIP to separate handsets.
>>> 
>>> The call goes to the first phone that picks up.  When on a call, picking up 
>>> another phone makes a separate call and does not conference.  I don't use 
>>> conference yet but I know you have to put the call on hold or something.
>>> 
>>> The thing I don't like about the A580 and 

Re: [asterisk-users] DECT phone for home: siemens A510 v. Grandstream DP715

2012-12-11 Thread Mitul Limbani
Mebbe you guys should try snom m9 dect ip phone, i have been using it since
over 3 years now without any of these issues.

Mitul
On Dec 12, 2012 4:25 AM, "Kai-Uwe Jensen"  wrote:

> Using a Gigaset C610IP here, and am very happy with the features. The base
> station can handle two concurrent SIP calls, and another internal one at
> that. It does it with a single SIP registration to each server. You can
> setup multiple servers if you want to and define dial patterns/plans that
> determine which server gets used. After some playing around with it, I'm
> now using my setup connected to a single asterisk only. (Let asterisk make
> call routing decisions based on cost, using an AGI)
>
> Call transfer is working fine, the handsets have a Flash/R key to
> accomplish this. Using the Flash lets you start a second call, and once
> answered you can easily conference the second party in (softkey right on
> the screen), or transfer the call to the other party (via menu, then
> transfer). Using this capability, someone on a call can easily confer with
> another party, and bridge them into the call. AFAIK it is not possible for
> someone to join an existing call easily. You'd have to implement that in
> asterisk's dialplan, not on the Gigaset phone.
>
> My understanding is that the C610IP has a few more features than the 510.
> I might've also read somewhere that the 510 is obsolete. Can't find that
> link right now, but search mgraves.org (use the Gigaset tag to get some
> initial results).
>
>
> On Tue, Dec 11, 2012 at 2:37 PM, Roy Abshire  wrote:
>
>>  That is true about the A580.
>>
>> I don't like the interface much to check messages.
>>
>> Besides that every time I go to dial a number...it always uses the first
>> digit pressed to go into phone mode..so I have to press the first digit
>> twice...
>>
>> I would test other phones but it's for home and I can't fork over $$ to
>> try them all out
>>
>> I have tested some Nokia cell phones, the N97, N900, and E71 and the E71
>> and N900 worked well.  I didn't like the N97.
>>
>>
>> Co-op Vacation Rentalswww.coopvr.com
>> 15218 Summit Ave
>> Suite #300-354
>> Fontana, CA 92336
>> Phone/Fax (855) 760-COOP (2667)
>>
>> On 12/11/2012 12:52 PM, Pete Mundy wrote:
>>
>> One thing I dislike about the A580H is that the handset always says 'You 
>> have new messages' if I've missed a call. It wouldn't bug me if it said 
>> 'missed call' but it tells me I have new messages and even lights up a red 
>> LED under a button with a picture of an envelope on it.
>>
>> I'm about to test an A510IP and an A610IP to compare against the A580. 
>> Fingers crossed neither of them has that issue, because the Gigaset phone is 
>> a pretty good phone other than that, and the difficulty doing a (blind) 
>> transfer, as referred to by the OP.
>>
>> Pete
>>
>>
>> On 12/12/2012, at 8:57 AM, Roy Abshire   
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>  I've been using the Gigaset A580 Base and A58H Phone for about 3 years now. 
>>  Never gave me problems. The call Quality is excellent!
>> I only have 1 handset connected to the Base but I want more. I bought a 
>> Linksys WIP330 as a 2nd phone to try out and that works just as good without 
>> a base unit.
>>
>> The A580 Base supports up to 6 handsets.
>>
>> I have 6 Incoming VOIP Numbers using separate SIP accounts pointed to 1 
>> Handset but you can point each SIP to separate handsets.
>>
>> The call goes to the first phone that picks up.  When on a call, picking up 
>> another phone makes a separate call and does not conference.  I don't use 
>> conference yet but I know you have to put the call on hold or something.
>>
>> The thing I don't like about the A580 and might be the same on all of them 
>> is that you can only specify 1 Sip Account for making outgoing calls.  In 
>> other words, all 6 phones would use the same caller id out, but I wanted to 
>> be able to choose that because I have a business number and number for each 
>> person in our household.  In order to use a different Caller ID (SIP 
>> Account) for making outgoing calls I added a extension to my Dial Plan and 
>> before making outgoing calls I press *1-6 before the number.
>>
>> I'm going to try adding more handsets that are compatible.  I want the SL78H 
>> but they are so expensive for just home everyday use.
>>
>> Make sure you check the compatibility page here before buying handsets.
>> http://gigaset.com/us/en/cms/PageCustomerServicesCompatibility.html
>>
>>
>> Co-op Vacation Rentalswww.coopvr.com
>> 15218 Summit Ave
>> Suite #300-354
>> Fontana, CA 92336
>> Phone/Fax (855) 760-COOP (2667)
>>
>> On 12/11/2012 11:32 AM, sean darcy wrote:
>>
>>  Siemens A510IP
>>
>>
>>
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Re: [asterisk-users] DECT phone for home: siemens A510 v. Grandstream DP715

2012-12-11 Thread Kai-Uwe Jensen
Using a Gigaset C610IP here, and am very happy with the features. The base
station can handle two concurrent SIP calls, and another internal one at
that. It does it with a single SIP registration to each server. You can
setup multiple servers if you want to and define dial patterns/plans that
determine which server gets used. After some playing around with it, I'm
now using my setup connected to a single asterisk only. (Let asterisk make
call routing decisions based on cost, using an AGI)

Call transfer is working fine, the handsets have a Flash/R key to
accomplish this. Using the Flash lets you start a second call, and once
answered you can easily conference the second party in (softkey right on
the screen), or transfer the call to the other party (via menu, then
transfer). Using this capability, someone on a call can easily confer with
another party, and bridge them into the call. AFAIK it is not possible for
someone to join an existing call easily. You'd have to implement that in
asterisk's dialplan, not on the Gigaset phone.

My understanding is that the C610IP has a few more features than the 510. I
might've also read somewhere that the 510 is obsolete. Can't find that link
right now, but search mgraves.org (use the Gigaset tag to get some initial
results).


On Tue, Dec 11, 2012 at 2:37 PM, Roy Abshire  wrote:

>  That is true about the A580.
>
> I don't like the interface much to check messages.
>
> Besides that every time I go to dial a number...it always uses the first
> digit pressed to go into phone mode..so I have to press the first digit
> twice...
>
> I would test other phones but it's for home and I can't fork over $$ to
> try them all out
>
> I have tested some Nokia cell phones, the N97, N900, and E71 and the E71
> and N900 worked well.  I didn't like the N97.
>
>
> Co-op Vacation Rentalswww.coopvr.com
> 15218 Summit Ave
> Suite #300-354
> Fontana, CA 92336
> Phone/Fax (855) 760-COOP (2667)
>
> On 12/11/2012 12:52 PM, Pete Mundy wrote:
>
> One thing I dislike about the A580H is that the handset always says 'You have 
> new messages' if I've missed a call. It wouldn't bug me if it said 'missed 
> call' but it tells me I have new messages and even lights up a red LED under 
> a button with a picture of an envelope on it.
>
> I'm about to test an A510IP and an A610IP to compare against the A580. 
> Fingers crossed neither of them has that issue, because the Gigaset phone is 
> a pretty good phone other than that, and the difficulty doing a (blind) 
> transfer, as referred to by the OP.
>
> Pete
>
>
> On 12/12/2012, at 8:57 AM, Roy Abshire   
> wrote:
>
>
>  I've been using the Gigaset A580 Base and A58H Phone for about 3 years now.  
> Never gave me problems. The call Quality is excellent!
> I only have 1 handset connected to the Base but I want more. I bought a 
> Linksys WIP330 as a 2nd phone to try out and that works just as good without 
> a base unit.
>
> The A580 Base supports up to 6 handsets.
>
> I have 6 Incoming VOIP Numbers using separate SIP accounts pointed to 1 
> Handset but you can point each SIP to separate handsets.
>
> The call goes to the first phone that picks up.  When on a call, picking up 
> another phone makes a separate call and does not conference.  I don't use 
> conference yet but I know you have to put the call on hold or something.
>
> The thing I don't like about the A580 and might be the same on all of them is 
> that you can only specify 1 Sip Account for making outgoing calls.  In other 
> words, all 6 phones would use the same caller id out, but I wanted to be able 
> to choose that because I have a business number and number for each person in 
> our household.  In order to use a different Caller ID (SIP Account) for 
> making outgoing calls I added a extension to my Dial Plan and before making 
> outgoing calls I press *1-6 before the number.
>
> I'm going to try adding more handsets that are compatible.  I want the SL78H 
> but they are so expensive for just home everyday use.
>
> Make sure you check the compatibility page here before buying handsets.
> http://gigaset.com/us/en/cms/PageCustomerServicesCompatibility.html
>
>
> Co-op Vacation Rentalswww.coopvr.com
> 15218 Summit Ave
> Suite #300-354
> Fontana, CA 92336
> Phone/Fax (855) 760-COOP (2667)
>
> On 12/11/2012 11:32 AM, sean darcy wrote:
>
>  Siemens A510IP
>
>
>
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Re: [asterisk-users] DECT phone for home: siemens A510 v. Grandstream DP715

2012-12-11 Thread Roy Abshire
I never hear a dial tone from my sip phones.  I just pick up the phone 
and dial + send but you should be able to dial out using the same SIP 
account in use...but you will need at least 2 outgoing trunks with your 
SIP provider to call external numbers, unless your calling another 
extension.


Just picking up your phone will not connect you to the call in progress 
on  the other line.


Co-op Vacation Rentals
www.coopvr.com
15218 Summit Ave
Suite #300-354
Fontana, CA 92336
Phone/Fax (855) 760-COOP (2667)

On 12/11/2012 2:39 PM, sean darcy wrote:

On 12/11/2012 04:37 PM, Roy Abshire wrote:

That is true about the A580.

I don't like the interface much to check messages.

Besides that every time I go to dial a number...it always uses the first
digit pressed to go into phone mode..so I have to press the first digit
twice...

I would test other phones but it's for home and I can't fork over $$ to
try them all out

I have tested some Nokia cell phones, the N97, N900, and E71 and the E71
and N900 worked well.  I didn't like the N97.

Co-op Vacation Rentals
www.coopvr.com
15218 Summit Ave
Suite #300-354
Fontana, CA 92336
Phone/Fax (855) 760-COOP (2667)

On 12/11/2012 12:52 PM, Pete Mundy wrote:
One thing I dislike about the A580H is that the handset always says 
'You have new messages' if I've missed a call. It wouldn't bug me if 
it said 'missed call' but it tells me I have new messages and even 
lights up a red LED under a button with a picture of an envelope on it.


I'm about to test an A510IP and an A610IP to compare against the 
A580. Fingers crossed neither of them has that issue, because the 
Gigaset phone is a pretty good phone other than that, and the 
difficulty doing a (blind) transfer, as referred to by the OP.


Pete


On 12/12/2012, at 8:57 AM, Roy Abshire wrote:

I've been using the Gigaset A580 Base and A58H Phone for about 3 
years now.  Never gave me problems. The call Quality is excellent!
I only have 1 handset connected to the Base but I want more. I 
bought a Linksys WIP330 as a 2nd phone to try out and that works 
just as good without a base unit.


The A580 Base supports up to 6 handsets.

I have 6 Incoming VOIP Numbers using separate SIP accounts pointed 
to 1 Handset but you can point each SIP to separate handsets.


The call goes to the first phone that picks up.  When on a call, 
picking up another phone makes a separate call and does not 
conference.  I don't use conference yet but I know you have to put 
the call on hold or something.


The thing I don't like about the A580 and might be the same on all 
of them is that you can only specify 1 Sip Account for making 
outgoing calls.  In other words, all 6 phones would use the same 
caller id out, but I wanted to be able to choose that because I 
have a business number and number for each person in our 
household.  In order to use a different Caller ID (SIP Account) for 
making outgoing calls I added a extension to my Dial Plan and 
before making outgoing calls I press *1-6 before the number.


I'm going to try adding more handsets that are compatible. I want 
the SL78H but they are so expensive for just home everyday use.


Make sure you check the compatibility page here before buying 
handsets.


http://gigaset.com/us/en/cms/PageCustomerServicesCompatibility.html



Some stupid questions:

I understand the A510 allows 2 sip calls. Let's say you've registered 
the base with asterisk. A uses handset 1 to call out over sip. B picks 
up handset 2. Does B hear a dial tone? Can B dial out over the 
asterisk server?


Or do you need two registrations with asterisk? In which case, is 
handset 2 always tied to the second registration?


sean


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Re: [asterisk-users] DECT phone for home: siemens A510 v. Grandstream DP715

2012-12-11 Thread sean darcy

On 12/11/2012 04:37 PM, Roy Abshire wrote:

That is true about the A580.

I don't like the interface much to check messages.

Besides that every time I go to dial a number...it always uses the first
digit pressed to go into phone mode..so I have to press the first digit
twice...

I would test other phones but it's for home and I can't fork over $$ to
try them all out

I have tested some Nokia cell phones, the N97, N900, and E71 and the E71
and N900 worked well.  I didn't like the N97.

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On 12/11/2012 12:52 PM, Pete Mundy wrote:

One thing I dislike about the A580H is that the handset always says 'You have 
new messages' if I've missed a call. It wouldn't bug me if it said 'missed 
call' but it tells me I have new messages and even lights up a red LED under a 
button with a picture of an envelope on it.

I'm about to test an A510IP and an A610IP to compare against the A580. Fingers 
crossed neither of them has that issue, because the Gigaset phone is a pretty 
good phone other than that, and the difficulty doing a (blind) transfer, as 
referred to by the OP.

Pete


On 12/12/2012, at 8:57 AM, Roy Abshire  wrote:


I've been using the Gigaset A580 Base and A58H Phone for about 3 years now.  
Never gave me problems. The call Quality is excellent!
I only have 1 handset connected to the Base but I want more. I bought a Linksys 
WIP330 as a 2nd phone to try out and that works just as good without a base 
unit.

The A580 Base supports up to 6 handsets.

I have 6 Incoming VOIP Numbers using separate SIP accounts pointed to 1 Handset 
but you can point each SIP to separate handsets.

The call goes to the first phone that picks up.  When on a call, picking up 
another phone makes a separate call and does not conference.  I don't use 
conference yet but I know you have to put the call on hold or something.

The thing I don't like about the A580 and might be the same on all of them is 
that you can only specify 1 Sip Account for making outgoing calls.  In other 
words, all 6 phones would use the same caller id out, but I wanted to be able 
to choose that because I have a business number and number for each person in 
our household.  In order to use a different Caller ID (SIP Account) for making 
outgoing calls I added a extension to my Dial Plan and before making outgoing 
calls I press *1-6 before the number.

I'm going to try adding more handsets that are compatible.  I want the SL78H 
but they are so expensive for just home everyday use.

Make sure you check the compatibility page here before buying handsets.

http://gigaset.com/us/en/cms/PageCustomerServicesCompatibility.html



Some stupid questions:

I understand the A510 allows 2 sip calls. Let's say you've registered 
the base with asterisk. A uses handset 1 to call out over sip. B picks 
up handset 2. Does B hear a dial tone? Can B dial out over the asterisk 
server?


Or do you need two registrations with asterisk? In which case, is 
handset 2 always tied to the second registration?


sean


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Re: [asterisk-users] DECT phone for home: siemens A510 v. Grandstream DP715

2012-12-11 Thread Roy Abshire

That is true about the A580.

I don't like the interface much to check messages.

Besides that every time I go to dial a number...it always uses the first 
digit pressed to go into phone mode..so I have to press the first digit 
twice...


I would test other phones but it's for home and I can't fork over $$ to 
try them all out


I have tested some Nokia cell phones, the N97, N900, and E71 and the E71 
and N900 worked well.  I didn't like the N97.


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15218 Summit Ave
Suite #300-354
Fontana, CA 92336
Phone/Fax (855) 760-COOP (2667)

On 12/11/2012 12:52 PM, Pete Mundy wrote:

One thing I dislike about the A580H is that the handset always says 'You have 
new messages' if I've missed a call. It wouldn't bug me if it said 'missed 
call' but it tells me I have new messages and even lights up a red LED under a 
button with a picture of an envelope on it.

I'm about to test an A510IP and an A610IP to compare against the A580. Fingers 
crossed neither of them has that issue, because the Gigaset phone is a pretty 
good phone other than that, and the difficulty doing a (blind) transfer, as 
referred to by the OP.

Pete


On 12/12/2012, at 8:57 AM, Roy Abshire  wrote:


I've been using the Gigaset A580 Base and A58H Phone for about 3 years now.  
Never gave me problems. The call Quality is excellent!
I only have 1 handset connected to the Base but I want more. I bought a Linksys 
WIP330 as a 2nd phone to try out and that works just as good without a base 
unit.

The A580 Base supports up to 6 handsets.

I have 6 Incoming VOIP Numbers using separate SIP accounts pointed to 1 Handset 
but you can point each SIP to separate handsets.

The call goes to the first phone that picks up.  When on a call, picking up 
another phone makes a separate call and does not conference.  I don't use 
conference yet but I know you have to put the call on hold or something.

The thing I don't like about the A580 and might be the same on all of them is 
that you can only specify 1 Sip Account for making outgoing calls.  In other 
words, all 6 phones would use the same caller id out, but I wanted to be able 
to choose that because I have a business number and number for each person in 
our household.  In order to use a different Caller ID (SIP Account) for making 
outgoing calls I added a extension to my Dial Plan and before making outgoing 
calls I press *1-6 before the number.

I'm going to try adding more handsets that are compatible.  I want the SL78H 
but they are so expensive for just home everyday use.

Make sure you check the compatibility page here before buying handsets.

http://gigaset.com/us/en/cms/PageCustomerServicesCompatibility.html


Co-op Vacation Rentals
www.coopvr.com
15218 Summit Ave
Suite #300-354
Fontana, CA 92336
Phone/Fax (855) 760-COOP (2667)

On 12/11/2012 11:32 AM, sean darcy wrote:

Siemens A510IP



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Re: [asterisk-users] DECT phone for home: siemens A510 v. Grandstream DP715

2012-12-11 Thread Pete Mundy

One thing I dislike about the A580H is that the handset always says 'You have 
new messages' if I've missed a call. It wouldn't bug me if it said 'missed 
call' but it tells me I have new messages and even lights up a red LED under a 
button with a picture of an envelope on it.

I'm about to test an A510IP and an A610IP to compare against the A580. Fingers 
crossed neither of them has that issue, because the Gigaset phone is a pretty 
good phone other than that, and the difficulty doing a (blind) transfer, as 
referred to by the OP.

Pete


On 12/12/2012, at 8:57 AM, Roy Abshire  wrote:

> I've been using the Gigaset A580 Base and A58H Phone for about 3 years now.  
> Never gave me problems. The call Quality is excellent!
> I only have 1 handset connected to the Base but I want more. I bought a 
> Linksys WIP330 as a 2nd phone to try out and that works just as good without 
> a base unit.
> 
> The A580 Base supports up to 6 handsets.
> 
> I have 6 Incoming VOIP Numbers using separate SIP accounts pointed to 1 
> Handset but you can point each SIP to separate handsets.
> 
> The call goes to the first phone that picks up.  When on a call, picking up 
> another phone makes a separate call and does not conference.  I don't use 
> conference yet but I know you have to put the call on hold or something.
> 
> The thing I don't like about the A580 and might be the same on all of them is 
> that you can only specify 1 Sip Account for making outgoing calls.  In other 
> words, all 6 phones would use the same caller id out, but I wanted to be able 
> to choose that because I have a business number and number for each person in 
> our household.  In order to use a different Caller ID (SIP Account) for 
> making outgoing calls I added a extension to my Dial Plan and before making 
> outgoing calls I press *1-6 before the number.
> 
> I'm going to try adding more handsets that are compatible.  I want the SL78H 
> but they are so expensive for just home everyday use.
> 
> Make sure you check the compatibility page here before buying handsets.
> 
> http://gigaset.com/us/en/cms/PageCustomerServicesCompatibility.html
> 
> 
> Co-op Vacation Rentals
> www.coopvr.com
> 15218 Summit Ave
> Suite #300-354
> Fontana, CA 92336
> Phone/Fax (855) 760-COOP (2667)
> 
> On 12/11/2012 11:32 AM, sean darcy wrote:
>> Siemens A510IP



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Re: [asterisk-users] DECT phone for home: siemens A510 v. Grandstream DP715

2012-12-11 Thread Roy Abshire
I've been using the Gigaset A580 Base and A58H Phone for about 3 years 
now.  Never gave me problems. The call Quality is excellent!
I only have 1 handset connected to the Base but I want more. I bought a 
Linksys WIP330 as a 2nd phone to try out and that works just as good 
without a base unit.


The A580 Base supports up to 6 handsets.

I have 6 Incoming VOIP Numbers using separate SIP accounts pointed to 1 
Handset but you can point each SIP to separate handsets.


The call goes to the first phone that picks up.  When on a call, picking 
up another phone makes a separate call and does not conference.  I don't 
use conference yet but I know you have to put the call on hold or something.


The thing I don't like about the A580 and might be the same on all of 
them is that you can only specify 1 Sip Account for making outgoing 
calls.  In other words, all 6 phones would use the same caller id out, 
but I wanted to be able to choose that because I have a business number 
and number for each person in our household.  In order to use a 
different Caller ID (SIP Account) for making outgoing calls I added a 
extension to my Dial Plan and before making outgoing calls I press *1-6 
before the number.


I'm going to try adding more handsets that are compatible.  I want the 
SL78H but they are so expensive for just home everyday use.


Make sure you check the compatibility page here before buying handsets.

http://gigaset.com/us/en/cms/PageCustomerServicesCompatibility.html


Co-op Vacation Rentals
www.coopvr.com
15218 Summit Ave
Suite #300-354
Fontana, CA 92336
Phone/Fax (855) 760-COOP (2667)

On 12/11/2012 11:32 AM, sean darcy wrote:

Siemens A510IP



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[asterisk-users] DECT phone for home: siemens A510 v. Grandstream DP715

2012-12-11 Thread sean darcy
I have an asterisk server at home. I'm looking to replace my internal 
phones with sip cordless (DECT) phones. I'm now looking at the Siemens 
A510IP base ($90 ) and A510H handset ($40) and the Grandview DP715 base 
($80) and DP710 handset ($45).


The Siemens has a feature were I can also use a PSTN landline, but I not 
sure that's a great benefit.


Has anybody tried these phones? I assume they both integrate with 
asterisk since they both are sip.


I'm leaning towards Grandview. Seems to be easier to transfer calls.

A questions, I'm on a call with one handset, can another person pick up 
a second handset to make another call? can that person join the first 
call? In other words, do I need two base stations to make two calls?


Any suggestions? Thoughts?

sean


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