Re: [asterisk-users] Disconnect Supervision UK / BT solution?

2007-01-22 Thread Chris Earle \(CBL\)
thanks for your helpful investigation!  I await news :-)

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 Well,

 I have just phoned BT today who said they can increase the CPC value
 on the line - however it needs to be done at the exchange - and has
 been booked for Tues.

 I suppose I will know wether this worked on Tues :-) - I shall post
 my findings.

 Regards

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 Matt Brown



 On 19 Jan 2007, at 16:46, Chris Earle ((CBL)) wrote:

  Hi all
 
  I'm using sangoma a200 cards in the UK and have the ongoing, often
  noted
  problem of disconnect supervision with BT POTS lines.
 
  Just noticed this post on
  http://www.voip-info.org/wiki/view/UK+Asterisk+Details
  stating that potentially someone's got a solution :
 
  TDM400P amp; Not Detecting Hangups:
 
   Got a TDM400P installed and having problems with Asterisk not
  detecting
  hangups? Using BT? If so, contact BT and ask what the Disconnect
  Clear
  Time setting is for your phone line. Odds are it's probably 100.
  Increasing
  it to 800 fixed the issue for me.
 
  Disconnect Clear Time is BT's name for CPC. 
 
 
  Does anyone have any thoughts/confirmation about this finally being
  a viable
  solution?  This disconnect supervision problem has plagued TDM and
  Sangoma
  cards for a long time!
 
  Comments appreciated before I get on the phone with BT
 
 
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  System Solutions Specialist
 
 
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Re: [asterisk-users] Disconnect Supervision UK / BT solution?

2007-01-22 Thread Chris Earle \(CBL\)
Sorry -- you're right, I didn't express the scenario properly ..

The disconnect supervision problem is when I 'forward'/divert an incoming
POTS call out another FXO channel to a mobile phone or POTS line.
(POTS - Sangoma|Asterisk - POTS/mobile)

When the incoming POTS hangs up and/or the mobile the person was connected
to .. Asterisk/Sangoma doesn't hang the Zap channels up.

I have tried busydetect and busycounts and a number of settings are enabled
for UK CallerID support (polarity switch stuff) ... but I had some sketchy
side effects with busydetect etc and am wary of premature hangups


Thanks for your query

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  Does anyone have any thoughts/confirmation about this finally being a
viable
  solution?  This disconnect supervision problem has plagued TDM and
Sangoma
  cards for a long time!
 

 Just to be clear, what is the exact disconnect problem that you see?

 I have three TDM cards in two different systems, one using PBX lines and
 one on a private BT line.  Both of them have trouble detecting a caller
 who is ringing, but then hangs up before being answered by the asterisk
 system

 However, *all* of them are absolutely fine at spotting a normal hangup
 once the call is connected and I see no random disconnects during calls
 either.

 Can you confirm that this is what you mean, or whether it's something
else?

 Ed W


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Re: [asterisk-users] Disconnect Supervision UK / BT solution?

2007-01-22 Thread Ed W

Chris Earle (CBL) wrote:

Sorry -- you're right, I didn't express the scenario properly ..

The disconnect supervision problem is when I 'forward'/divert an incoming
POTS call out another FXO channel to a mobile phone or POTS line.
(POTS - Sangoma|Asterisk - POTS/mobile)

When the incoming POTS hangs up and/or the mobile the person was connected
to .. Asterisk/Sangoma doesn't hang the Zap channels up.
  


Just to clarifydoes it all work ok if you are using SIP or IAX for the 
forwarded channels?  Eg local SIP phones?


I only have incoming zap lines in my config and with the exception of 
hangup on ringing I have found hangup detection to work fine.  I have a 
fax machine forwarding in my config as well and again no problems yet 
with hangup on that.


Does it fail to work *every* time, or just intermittently?  Does 
CallerId work ok in your setup?  (can be a clue to help diagnose your setup)


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Re: [asterisk-users] Disconnect Supervision UK / BT solution?

2007-01-20 Thread Matt Brown

Well,

I have just phoned BT today who said they can increase the CPC value  
on the line - however it needs to be done at the exchange - and has  
been booked for Tues.


I suppose I will know wether this worked on Tues :-) - I shall post  
my findings.


Regards

--
Matt Brown



On 19 Jan 2007, at 16:46, Chris Earle ((CBL)) wrote:


Hi all

I'm using sangoma a200 cards in the UK and have the ongoing, often  
noted

problem of disconnect supervision with BT POTS lines.

Just noticed this post on
http://www.voip-info.org/wiki/view/UK+Asterisk+Details
stating that potentially someone's got a solution :

TDM400P amp; Not Detecting Hangups:

 Got a TDM400P installed and having problems with Asterisk not  
detecting
hangups? Using BT? If so, contact BT and ask what the Disconnect  
Clear
Time setting is for your phone line. Odds are it's probably 100.  
Increasing

it to 800 fixed the issue for me.

Disconnect Clear Time is BT's name for CPC. 


Does anyone have any thoughts/confirmation about this finally being  
a viable
solution?  This disconnect supervision problem has plagued TDM and  
Sangoma

cards for a long time!

Comments appreciated before I get on the phone with BT


--
Chris Earle
System Solutions Specialist


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Re: [asterisk-users] Disconnect Supervision UK / BT solution?

2007-01-20 Thread Carlos Rojas

Hello,


What's your zapata.conf and zaptel.conf?



On 1/20/07, Matt Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Well,

I have just phoned BT today who said they can increase the CPC value
on the line - however it needs to be done at the exchange - and has
been booked for Tues.

I suppose I will know wether this worked on Tues :-) - I shall post
my findings.

Regards

--
Matt Brown



On 19 Jan 2007, at 16:46, Chris Earle ((CBL)) wrote:

 Hi all

 I'm using sangoma a200 cards in the UK and have the ongoing, often
 noted
 problem of disconnect supervision with BT POTS lines.

 Just noticed this post on
 http://www.voip-info.org/wiki/view/UK+Asterisk+Details
 stating that potentially someone's got a solution :

 TDM400P amp; Not Detecting Hangups:

  Got a TDM400P installed and having problems with Asterisk not
 detecting
 hangups? Using BT? If so, contact BT and ask what the Disconnect
 Clear
 Time setting is for your phone line. Odds are it's probably 100.
 Increasing
 it to 800 fixed the issue for me.

 Disconnect Clear Time is BT's name for CPC. 


 Does anyone have any thoughts/confirmation about this finally being
 a viable
 solution?  This disconnect supervision problem has plagued TDM and
 Sangoma
 cards for a long time!

 Comments appreciated before I get on the phone with BT


 --
 Chris Earle
 System Solutions Specialist


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Re: [asterisk-users] Disconnect Supervision UK / BT solution?

2007-01-20 Thread Ed W

Matt Brown wrote:

Well,

I have just phoned BT today who said they can increase the CPC value 
on the line - however it needs to be done at the exchange - and has 
been booked for Tues.


I suppose I will know wether this worked on Tues :-) - I shall post my 
findings.


I would be keen to hear your findings - however, I'm still not clear 
exactly what the problem is in your case.  There are numerous kinds of 
disconnect problems - which one are you having (so we know which one the 
CPC fixes...)


Cheers

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[asterisk-users] Disconnect Supervision UK / BT solution?

2007-01-19 Thread Chris Earle \(CBL\)
Hi all

I'm using sangoma a200 cards in the UK and have the ongoing, often noted
problem of disconnect supervision with BT POTS lines.

Just noticed this post on
http://www.voip-info.org/wiki/view/UK+Asterisk+Details
stating that potentially someone's got a solution :

TDM400P amp; Not Detecting Hangups:

 Got a TDM400P installed and having problems with Asterisk not detecting
hangups? Using BT? If so, contact BT and ask what the Disconnect Clear
Time setting is for your phone line. Odds are it's probably 100. Increasing
it to 800 fixed the issue for me.

Disconnect Clear Time is BT's name for CPC. 


Does anyone have any thoughts/confirmation about this finally being a viable
solution?  This disconnect supervision problem has plagued TDM and Sangoma
cards for a long time!

Comments appreciated before I get on the phone with BT


--
Chris Earle
System Solutions Specialist


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Re: [asterisk-users] Disconnect Supervision UK / BT solution?

2007-01-19 Thread Ed W



Does anyone have any thoughts/confirmation about this finally being a viable
solution?  This disconnect supervision problem has plagued TDM and Sangoma
cards for a long time!
  


Just to be clear, what is the exact disconnect problem that you see?

I have three TDM cards in two different systems, one using PBX lines and 
one on a private BT line.  Both of them have trouble detecting a caller 
who is ringing, but then hangs up before being answered by the asterisk 
system


However, *all* of them are absolutely fine at spotting a normal hangup 
once the call is connected and I see no random disconnects during calls 
either.


Can you confirm that this is what you mean, or whether it's something else?

Ed W

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