Re: [asterisk-users] Host = Dynamic in a Register Free Setup

2014-02-18 Thread Eric Wieling
I can't imagine it working any other way.

Either your phones are on static IP addresses or they must register to inform 
Asterisk the IP associated with the peer entry in sip.conf.Unless you have 
chan_psychic.so Asterisk won't know the IP of the phones unless you tell it.

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Shiza Sounds about right but is it true? Anyone else?

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Re: [asterisk-users] Host = Dynamic in a Register Free Setup

2014-02-18 Thread Nick Cameo
Is Asterisk not able to gather IP and port info on INVITES in a REGISTER free,
host=dynamic setup? As you all know REGISTERS are resourceful and the
phone can be anywhere..

Kind Regards,

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Re: [asterisk-users] Host = Dynamic in a Register Free Setup

2014-02-18 Thread Eric Wieling
No.  Asterisk will accept calls from unregistered devices, but you have to 
enable guests I sip.conf and hope your dialplan is secure.  No sane person does 
this.

Asterisk cannot send calls to a device unless it knows the address from a 
register or from a host= entry for the peer.

You may not like it, but this is the way Asteirsk has worked for the past 15 
years.


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Is Asterisk not able to gather IP and port info on INVITES in a REGISTER free, 
host=dynamic setup? As you all know REGISTERS are resourceful and the phone can 
be anywhere..

Kind Regards,

Nick.

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Re: [asterisk-users] Host = Dynamic in a Register Free Setup

2014-02-18 Thread James Sharp

On 2/18/2014 2:09 PM, Eric Wieling wrote:

No.  Asterisk will accept calls from unregistered devices, but you have to 
enable guests I sip.conf and hope your dialplan is secure.  No sane person does 
this.

Asterisk cannot send calls to a device unless it knows the address from a 
register or from a host= entry for the peer.

You may not like it, but this is the way Asteirsk has worked for the past 15 
years.


Isn't there also autocreatepeer?



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Re: [asterisk-users] Host = Dynamic in a Register Free Setup

2014-02-18 Thread Nick Cameo
Hello Eric,

On 2/18/14, Eric Wieling ewiel...@nyigc.com wrote:
 No.  Asterisk will accept calls from unregistered devices, but you have
 to enable guests I sip.conf and hope your dialplan is secure.  No sane
 person does this.

Thank you for your response. Our security layer is abstracted out of
the Asterisk
boxes completely. The setup is secure we just need Asterisk to fill in the gaps
(ie, ipaddrss and port) after initial INVITE vs. REGISTER.

Kind Regards,

Nick.

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Re: [asterisk-users] Host = Dynamic in a Register Free Setup

2014-02-18 Thread Eric Wieling
autocreatepeer still requires registration, from sip.conf.sample:

;autocreatepeer=no ; Allow any UAC not explicitly defined to 
register
   ; WITHOUT AUTHENTICATION. Enabling this options 
poses a high
   ; potential security risk and should be avoided 
unless the
   ; server is behind a trusted firewall.
   ; If set to yes, then peers created in this 
fashion
   ; are purged during SIP reloads.
   ; When set to persist, the peers created in 
this fashion
   ; are not purged during SIP reloads.


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Sent: Tuesday, February 18, 2014 2:13 PM
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Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] Host = Dynamic in a Register Free Setup

On 2/18/2014 2:09 PM, Eric Wieling wrote:
 No.  Asterisk will accept calls from unregistered devices, but you have 
 to enable guests I sip.conf and hope your dialplan is secure.  No sane person 
 does this.

 Asterisk cannot send calls to a device unless it knows the address from a 
 register or from a host= entry for the peer.

 You may not like it, but this is the way Asteirsk has worked for the past 15 
 years.

Isn't there also autocreatepeer?



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Re: [asterisk-users] Host = Dynamic in a Register Free Setup

2014-02-18 Thread Nick Cameo
I just want to clarify. We are not creating peers automatically. And
we allowguest=no. We do have peer entries in sip_buddies db as you
would expect. As mentioned, we just don't allow phones to REGISTER
every 3600 (for example). Once a valid peer/phone tries to place a
call, we would like asterisk to store the ipaddr and port of the phone
to be able to create the SIP channel for incoming calls. As mentioned
security is managed elsewhere.

N.

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Re: [asterisk-users] Host = Dynamic in a Register Free Setup

2014-02-18 Thread Kevin Larsen
asterisk-users-boun...@lists.digium.com wrote on 02/18/2014 01:35:13 PM:

 From: Nick Cameo sym...@gmail.com
 To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion 
 asterisk-users@lists.digium.com, 
 Date: 02/18/2014 01:35 PM
 Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] Host = Dynamic in a Register Free Setup
 Sent by: asterisk-users-boun...@lists.digium.com
 
 I just want to clarify. We are not creating peers automatically. And
 we allowguest=no. We do have peer entries in sip_buddies db as you
 would expect. As mentioned, we just don't allow phones to REGISTER
 every 3600 (for example). Once a valid peer/phone tries to place a
 call, we would like asterisk to store the ipaddr and port of the phone
 to be able to create the SIP channel for incoming calls. As mentioned
 security is managed elsewhere.

I am really curious. What do you hope to gain by preventing the phones 
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Re: [asterisk-users] Host = Dynamic in a Register Free Setup

2014-02-17 Thread Chad Wallace
On Sun, 16 Feb 2014 21:21:30 -0500
Nick Cameo sym...@gmail.com wrote:

 Our environment is a register free setup, and our phones are set as
 host=dynamic.
 The problem we are experiencing is for inbound calls:
 
 Name/username HostDyn Forcerport ACL Port
 Status Realtime
 222/222  (Unspecified)D   N   A  0
 Unmonitored Cached RT
 
 So when we DIAL 222 we get:
 
 WARNING[23103]: app_dial.c:2198 dial_exec_full: Unable to create
 channel of type 'SIP' (cause 20 - Unknown)
 
 My question is how can we get Asterisk to fill in the gaps (ie,
 ipaddr, port) for a dynamic
 peer in a register free environment.

There are two ways for Asterisk to get the IP address for a peer:
1. Provide the address statically with host=address entries.
2. Allow the peer to register.

I don't believe there is any other way for Asterisk to get the IP
address.

What this means is, you can have a register-free environment or you
can have host=dynamic, but you can't have both.


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Re: [asterisk-users] Host = Dynamic in a Register Free Setup

2014-02-17 Thread Nick Cameo
Shiza Sounds about right but is it true? Anyone else?

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[asterisk-users] Host = Dynamic in a Register Free Setup

2014-02-16 Thread Nick Cameo
Hello Everyone.

Our environment is a register free setup, and our phones are set as
host=dynamic.
The problem we are experiencing is for inbound calls:

Name/username HostDyn Forcerport ACL Port
Status Realtime
222/222  (Unspecified)D   N   A  0
Unmonitored Cached RT

So when we DIAL 222 we get:

WARNING[23103]: app_dial.c:2198 dial_exec_full: Unable to create
channel of type 'SIP' (cause 20 - Unknown)

My question is how can we get Asterisk to fill in the gaps (ie,
ipaddr, port) for a dynamic
peer in a register free environment.

Kind Regards,

Nick.

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