RE: [asterisk-users] Is there any Asterisk controllable thermostat?
My garage door is... -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Doug Crompton Sent: Monday, December 04, 2006 11:54 PM To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] Is there any Asterisk controllable thermostat? I remembered I had an x10 bottlerocket in my X10 junkbox so I connected it to a spare serial port on my linux server (asterisk resides there) and implemented with some mods the code mentioned earlier http://lorance.freeshell.org/asterisk/#asterisk-can-control-the-world and it works great. Now I have one more way to control X10 devices. I can even call my VM on the way home and turn on my lights or whatever before I get home. Doug ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Is there any Asterisk controllable thermostat?
Doug Crompton wrote: John, Two questions on your comments I have no seen an Insteon computer controller similiar to the old bottle rocket. Is there such a device? I am thinking of getting an Insteon starter kit bit I have so many X10 devices it will be awhie before, if ever, that I get it all changed over. Many items, like spotlights, are not available in Insteon. Similar, in terms of a wireless transmitter -- no. But they have both a serial and a USB computer controller that works over the power ($50-$70 for the controller). It works for both X10 and Insteon protocols. Why isn't that acceptable? And yes, some essential X10 replacements are not yet available. I have two of the X10 spotlights myself. But Insteon has a lot of interest from a lot of companies, so I expect to see a lot more variety in the next year or two. Note: There is opensource software available for the controller, so you don't have to pay the extra $70-$200 or more for the various non opensource software packages available. I would be interested in the Ethernet MWI. I am using many phones on an SPA3000 fxs and I can't seem to find an MWI on an analog phone that works with Asterisk and the SPA3000, although I have been told that there are some that do??? The quick answer would be to put a SIP phone with MWI where your wife wants to be able to see the light. I have a Budgtone 200 and MWI works fine on it. Of course then you have styling and color issues that might not past the muster. Well, the answering machine was a digital one that had multiple (3) VM boxes. It had a separate message waiting light for each box. That is the feature that my wife misses. I'm not sure what if any SIP phones provide multiple message waiting indicators. Besides, it is a moot point for me at this time, since I've already finished building the hardware, now it is just a simple matter of programming to get it to work. ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Is there any Asterisk controllable thermostat?
Doug, The Uniden CLX465 supports stutter dial tone (SDT) and provides a MWI. Might be overkill since it is an answering machine as well. There are a few others. Google for stutter dial tone or phone company compatible voice mail. The SPA3K can produce SDT. The Budgetone 102 also has an MWI. I never thought about painting the phone's case. The handset might be an issue. Sounds like an interesting marketing opportunity, like cell-phone covers. Bob... On Thu, 2006-12-07 at 10:14 -0500, Doug Crompton wrote: John, Two questions on your comments I have no seen an Insteon computer controller similiar to the old bottle rocket. Is there such a device? I am thinking of getting an Insteon starter kit bit I have so many X10 devices it will be awhie before, if ever, that I get it all changed over. Many items, like spotlights, are not available in Insteon. I would be interested in the Ethernet MWI. I am using many phones on an SPA3000 fxs and I can't seem to find an MWI on an analog phone that works with Asterisk and the SPA3000, although I have been told that there are some that do??? The quick answer would be to put a SIP phone with MWI where your wife wants to be able to see the light. I have a Budgtone 200 and MWI works fine on it. Of course then you have styling and color issues that might not past the muster. Doug On Thu, 7 Dec 2006, John Marvin wrote: I would suggest that people who don't already have an investment in home automation equipment should look at Insteon rather than X10. Insteon is a next generation version of X10 that provides backwards compatibility with X10. The devices are a little more expensive, but not as expensive as some of the other alternatives. Insteon provides 2 way communication and is a lot more reliable than X10. If you already have an investment in X10 devices you can slowly convert to Insteon, since Insteon provides backwards compatibility, i.e. X10 controllers can control Insteon devices and Insteon controllers can control X10 devices, however you won't get all the advantages of Insteon until you have Insteon controllers controlling Insteon devices. For people with some soldering and basic circuit design skills, you may want to consider using ethernet as a home automation bus for some things. I love the Olimex PIC WEB and PIC Mini Web development boards (they cost $49.95 and $39.95 respectively). They have an ethernet port and an expansion connector for the available PIC I/O pins. Microchip provides a free C compiler for Pic processors, and they also have an open source networking stack that works on the Olimex boards. So with a ribbon cable connector and a small breadboard with a few IC's and/or driver transistors you can build a device that responds to commands via the network (or via a built in web server) from your Asterisk server that does about any task you can think of. Lots of fun ... I'm currently building a voicemail indicator (my wife didn't like me taking her answering machine away with the blinking lights when we switched to Asterisk voicemail) using a PIC Web board. Next project will be a web based sprinkler controller. John ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users Those that sacrifice essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. -- Ben Franklin (1759) * Doug Crompton * * Richboro, PA 18954* * 215-431-6307 * ** * [EMAIL PROTECTED]* * http://www.crompton.com * ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Is there any Asterisk controllable thermostat?
Doug Crompton wrote: I remembered I had an x10 bottlerocket in my X10 junkbox so I connected it to a spare serial port on my linux server (asterisk resides there) and implemented with some mods the code mentioned earlier http://lorance.freeshell.org/asterisk/#asterisk-can-control-the-world and it works great. Now I have one more way to control X10 devices. I can even call my VM on the way home and turn on my lights or whatever before I get home. I would suggest that people who don't already have an investment in home automation equipment should look at Insteon rather than X10. Insteon is a next generation version of X10 that provides backwards compatibility with X10. The devices are a little more expensive, but not as expensive as some of the other alternatives. Insteon provides 2 way communication and is a lot more reliable than X10. If you already have an investment in X10 devices you can slowly convert to Insteon, since Insteon provides backwards compatibility, i.e. X10 controllers can control Insteon devices and Insteon controllers can control X10 devices, however you won't get all the advantages of Insteon until you have Insteon controllers controlling Insteon devices. For people with some soldering and basic circuit design skills, you may want to consider using ethernet as a home automation bus for some things. I love the Olimex PIC WEB and PIC Mini Web development boards (they cost $49.95 and $39.95 respectively). They have an ethernet port and an expansion connector for the available PIC I/O pins. Microchip provides a free C compiler for Pic processors, and they also have an open source networking stack that works on the Olimex boards. So with a ribbon cable connector and a small breadboard with a few IC's and/or driver transistors you can build a device that responds to commands via the network (or via a built in web server) from your Asterisk server that does about any task you can think of. Lots of fun ... I'm currently building a voicemail indicator (my wife didn't like me taking her answering machine away with the blinking lights when we switched to Asterisk voicemail) using a PIC Web board. Next project will be a web based sprinkler controller. John ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Standardized IVR UI Pattern (was: Re: [asterisk-users] Is there any Asterisk controllable thermostat?)
On Wed, 2006-12-06 at 23:51 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Date: Wed, 06 Dec 2006 22:37:01 -0500 From: Steve Prior [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] Is there any Asterisk controllable thermostat? To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion asterisk-users@lists.digium.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Doug Crompton wrote: and it works great. Now I have one more way to control X10 devices. I can even call my VM on the way home and turn on my lights or whatever before I get home. Doug I've started to play with writing some code using the Java FastAGI interface to connect to my home automation system. The code is working and I could now write whatever I wanted, but I haven't figured out what would be a reasonable menu interface that wouldn't be very annoying to use. I'd be very interested to hear what menu structures and what actual capabilities people have found useful and nice to use. For example, has anyone come up with something less annoying than the following dialog: Press 1 for living room, press 2 for outside, press 3 for bedroom (I press 2) Press 1 for porch light, press 2 for garage light (I press 1) Press 1 to turn on, Press 2 to turn off, Press 3 to say current status (I press 1) congratulations, you just spent several minutes just to turn on a light! I don't know why IVR menus still include so much extra verbiage. They should act like numbered lists - everyone knows the stated number means the key to press, and the stated name means what you will get. So: (Listens for DTMF) Hello, this is home thermostat. 1 living room 2 outside 3 bedroom (waits for DTMF, maybe repeats after a 2 second pause) (I press 2) (Listens for DTMF) Outside 1 porch light 2 garage light (waits for DTMF, maybe repeats after a 2 second pause, offers to hangup after maybe 15 seconds) (I press 1) (Listens for DTMF) Outside Porch light 1 on 2 off 3 say current status (waits for DTMF, maybe repeats after a 2 second pause) (I press 1) (Listens for DTMF) Outside porch light status turned on star for options, hash to hangup (waits for DTMF, maybe repeats after a 2 second pause) That menu system would take about 10 seconds the first time through, listening to all prompts. Subsequent navigation could take 2-4 seconds. Subsequent shortcuts through a collapsed star-hash menu could take 1-2 seconds. Make the star key an escape key to the previous scope. Make the hash key an Enter key that terminates any multiple-key entry. Collapse all menu scopes/items into a single long list that can be reached at any time through star-hash. Introduce the whole menu system with press star for options, to the star-star menu. Make the 0 option in the star options menu the path to a human operator, if there is one. And always immediately feedback to any received key with at least a click. This simple UI should be common to every IVR app, so anyone can always use it without listening for a while to learn how to navigate the IVR. In fact, I call this system IKR (Interactive Key Response), and maybe every system should answer the call with first saying IKR. Then callers would immediately know when our skills on the common UI would work, without waiting to learn, or mistake it. If the server played a few touchtones, like 4-5-7 (keypad IKR) while saying IKR, smart automated clients could detect the system and use it. To complete the interactivity protocol, every spoken digit to be pressed in the numbered menus would also play the digits' DTMF. And the intro to the scope to which a client DTMF navigated would play the last digits that navigated there from the previous scope while saying the name of the new scope. This is the system that I used to use when I built dedicated IVR systems a dozen years ago (on Dialogic HW). Almost no IVR people were on the Internet then, before the Web. There was no community, and IVR vendors competed so harshly that they couldn't get such a standard interface going, even for mutual benefit. So now everyone hates using IVR, even when it's better than a human operator. And we still all roll our own from scratch. But with Asterisk, and web/maillists connecting a community, we can adopt a common system. If enough people like it, I will publish the spec, and maybe write the RFC. Or maybe there's a better one that will be adopted more widely more quickly, and we can get behind that. If you don't like it, you can still roll your own, just don't call it IKR when answering the call, and callers will be free to use your klugey, nonstandard UI, and hate it :). -- (C) Matthew Rubenstein ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Is there any Asterisk controllable thermostat?
John, Two questions on your comments I have no seen an Insteon computer controller similiar to the old bottle rocket. Is there such a device? I am thinking of getting an Insteon starter kit bit I have so many X10 devices it will be awhie before, if ever, that I get it all changed over. Many items, like spotlights, are not available in Insteon. I would be interested in the Ethernet MWI. I am using many phones on an SPA3000 fxs and I can't seem to find an MWI on an analog phone that works with Asterisk and the SPA3000, although I have been told that there are some that do??? The quick answer would be to put a SIP phone with MWI where your wife wants to be able to see the light. I have a Budgtone 200 and MWI works fine on it. Of course then you have styling and color issues that might not past the muster. Doug On Thu, 7 Dec 2006, John Marvin wrote: I would suggest that people who don't already have an investment in home automation equipment should look at Insteon rather than X10. Insteon is a next generation version of X10 that provides backwards compatibility with X10. The devices are a little more expensive, but not as expensive as some of the other alternatives. Insteon provides 2 way communication and is a lot more reliable than X10. If you already have an investment in X10 devices you can slowly convert to Insteon, since Insteon provides backwards compatibility, i.e. X10 controllers can control Insteon devices and Insteon controllers can control X10 devices, however you won't get all the advantages of Insteon until you have Insteon controllers controlling Insteon devices. For people with some soldering and basic circuit design skills, you may want to consider using ethernet as a home automation bus for some things. I love the Olimex PIC WEB and PIC Mini Web development boards (they cost $49.95 and $39.95 respectively). They have an ethernet port and an expansion connector for the available PIC I/O pins. Microchip provides a free C compiler for Pic processors, and they also have an open source networking stack that works on the Olimex boards. So with a ribbon cable connector and a small breadboard with a few IC's and/or driver transistors you can build a device that responds to commands via the network (or via a built in web server) from your Asterisk server that does about any task you can think of. Lots of fun ... I'm currently building a voicemail indicator (my wife didn't like me taking her answering machine away with the blinking lights when we switched to Asterisk voicemail) using a PIC Web board. Next project will be a web based sprinkler controller. John ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users Those that sacrifice essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. -- Ben Franklin (1759) * Doug Crompton * * Richboro, PA 18954 * * 215-431-6307* * * * [EMAIL PROTECTED]* * http://www.crompton.com * ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Is there any Asterisk controllable thermostat?
On Thu, 2006-12-07 at 07:20 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Date: Thu, 07 Dec 2006 02:11:59 -0700 From: John Marvin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] Is there any Asterisk controllable thermostat? To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion asterisk-users@lists.digium.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Doug Crompton wrote: I remembered I had an x10 bottlerocket in my X10 junkbox so I connected it to a spare serial port on my linux server (asterisk resides there) and implemented with some mods the code mentioned earlier http://lorance.freeshell.org/asterisk/#asterisk-can-control-the-world and it works great. Now I have one more way to control X10 devices. I can even call my VM on the way home and turn on my lights or whatever before I get home. I would suggest that people who don't already have an investment in home automation equipment should look at Insteon rather than X10. Insteon is a next generation version of X10 that provides backwards compatibility with X10. The devices are a little more expensive, but not as expensive as some of the other alternatives. Insteon provides 2 way communication and is a lot more reliable than X10. If you already have an investment in X10 devices you can slowly convert to Insteon, since Insteon provides backwards compatibility, i.e. X10 controllers can control Insteon devices and Insteon controllers can control X10 devices, however you won't get all the advantages of Insteon until you have Insteon controllers controlling Insteon devices. For people with some soldering and basic circuit design skills, you may want to consider using ethernet as a home automation bus for some things. I love the Olimex PIC WEB and PIC Mini Web development boards (they cost $49.95 and $39.95 respectively). They have an ethernet port and an expansion connector for the available PIC I/O pins. Microchip provides a free C compiler for Pic processors, and they also have an open source networking stack that works on the Olimex boards. So with a ribbon cable connector and a small breadboard with a few IC's and/or driver transistors you can build a device that responds to commands via the network (or via a built in web server) from your Asterisk server that does about any task you can think of. Lots of fun ... I'm currently building a voicemail indicator (my wife didn't like me taking her answering machine away with the blinking lights when we switched to Asterisk voicemail) using a PIC Web board. Next project will be a web based sprinkler controller. Are any of these home automation systems compatible with homeplug? Or WiFi, or BlueTooth? It seems to me that bundling a proprietary (or less popular) network protocol (and HW) with the device controller fragments the market, and prohibits reuse of the mass market network, which prevents economies of scale for consumers and developers. John -- (C) Matthew Rubenstein ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Is there any Asterisk controllable thermostat?
The Message Waiting Lamp (neon) on these phones requires a 90v signal which is generated and switched to the phone via a special station card on an analog PBX. This feature was developed mainly for Hotel and Motels but I doubt there are any manufacturers who would develop this functionality for any ATA's as this technology is very old. your best bet is to use the stuttered dial tone or buy (as a previous person has suggested) a cheapo Grandstream (you can re-spay them any colour) Henry L.Coleman CEO *VoIP-PBX* 1-866-415-5355 Toronto Ontario Canada John, Two questions on your comments I have no seen an Insteon computer controller similiar to the old bottle rocket. Is there such a device? I am thinking of getting an Insteon starter kit bit I have so many X10 devices it will be awhie before, if ever, that I get it all changed over. Many items, like spotlights, are not available in Insteon. I would be interested in the Ethernet MWI. I am using many phones on an SPA3000 fxs and I can't seem to find an MWI on an analog phone that works with Asterisk and the SPA3000, although I have been told that there are some that do??? The quick answer would be to put a SIP phone with MWI where your wife wants to be able to see the light. I have a Budgtone 200 and MWI works fine on it. Of course then you have styling and color issues that might not past the muster. Doug On Thu, 7 Dec 2006, John Marvin wrote: I would suggest that people who don't already have an investment in home automation equipment should look at Insteon rather than X10. Insteon is a next generation version of X10 that provides backwards compatibility with X10. The devices are a little more expensive, but not as expensive as some of the other alternatives. Insteon provides 2 way communication and is a lot more reliable than X10. If you already have an investment in X10 devices you can slowly convert to Insteon, since Insteon provides backwards compatibility, i.e. X10 controllers can control Insteon devices and Insteon controllers can control X10 devices, however you won't get all the advantages of Insteon until you have Insteon controllers controlling Insteon devices. For people with some soldering and basic circuit design skills, you may want to consider using ethernet as a home automation bus for some things. I love the Olimex PIC WEB and PIC Mini Web development boards (they cost $49.95 and $39.95 respectively). They have an ethernet port and an expansion connector for the available PIC I/O pins. Microchip provides a free C compiler for Pic processors, and they also have an open source networking stack that works on the Olimex boards. So with a ribbon cable connector and a small breadboard with a few IC's and/or driver transistors you can build a device that responds to commands via the network (or via a built in web server) from your Asterisk server that does about any task you can think of. Lots of fun ... I'm currently building a voicemail indicator (my wife didn't like me taking her answering machine away with the blinking lights when we switched to Asterisk voicemail) using a PIC Web board. Next project will be a web based sprinkler controller. John ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users Those that sacrifice essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. -- Ben Franklin (1759) * Doug Crompton * * Richboro, PA 18954* * 215-431-6307 * ** * [EMAIL PROTECTED]* * http://www.crompton.com * ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Is there any Asterisk controllable thermostat?
Doug Crompton wrote: and it works great. Now I have one more way to control X10 devices. I can even call my VM on the way home and turn on my lights or whatever before I get home. Doug I've started to play with writing some code using the Java FastAGI interface to connect to my home automation system. The code is working and I could now write whatever I wanted, but I haven't figured out what would be a reasonable menu interface that wouldn't be very annoying to use. I'd be very interested to hear what menu structures and what actual capabilities people have found useful and nice to use. For example, has anyone come up with something less annoying than the following dialog: Press 1 for living room, press 2 for outside, press 3 for bedroom (I press 2) Press 1 for porch light, press 2 for garage light (I press 1) Press 1 to turn on, Press 2 to turn off, Press 3 to say current status (I press 1) congratulations, you just spent several minutes just to turn on a light! Steve ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
RE: [asterisk-users] Is there any Asterisk controllable thermostat?
I wouldn't IVR this. I'd do it with extensions. You have areas, targets, and actions assigned to an extension digit. So if lights are appliance type 1, the bedroom is location 1, and the action to turn the target on is 1, so you dial extension 111 and perform an action based on the extension. This also gives you the opportunity to macro events. Press 539 (sex) and it turns on the Jacuzzi, streams some Tony Bennett to the speakers, sets the lights to dim, lights the fireplace, porn begins streaming to the flatscreen and the phone is set to DND. (not that you'd ever get laid if you were this geeky) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Steve Prior Sent: Wednesday, December 06, 2006 7:37 PM To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] Is there any Asterisk controllable thermostat? Doug Crompton wrote: and it works great. Now I have one more way to control X10 devices. I can even call my VM on the way home and turn on my lights or whatever before I get home. Doug I've started to play with writing some code using the Java FastAGI interface to connect to my home automation system. The code is working and I could now write whatever I wanted, but I haven't figured out what would be a reasonable menu interface that wouldn't be very annoying to use. I'd be very interested to hear what menu structures and what actual capabilities people have found useful and nice to use. For example, has anyone come up with something less annoying than the following dialog: Press 1 for living room, press 2 for outside, press 3 for bedroom (I press 2) Press 1 for porch light, press 2 for garage light (I press 1) Press 1 to turn on, Press 2 to turn off, Press 3 to say current status (I press 1) congratulations, you just spent several minutes just to turn on a light! Steve ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users This message is confidential. It may also be privileged or otherwise protected by work product immunity or other legal rules. If you have received it by mistake, please let us know by e-mail reply and delete it from your system; you may not copy this message or disclose its contents to anyone. Please send us by fax any message containing deadlines as incoming e-mails are not screened for response deadlines. The integrity and security of this message cannot be guaranteed on the Internet. ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Is there any Asterisk controllable thermostat?
What skills are needed to write a code yourself for X10, RS-485 or RS-232. I am planning to learn some programming so I can do the stuff myself which others haven't done yet. I once knew C/C++, and other electronic stuff, but because of not using it for years, revise and update them. ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Is there any Asterisk controllable thermostat?
On Tue, Dec 05, 2006 at 07:57:27AM -0500, Zeeshan Zakaria wrote: What skills are needed to write a code yourself for X10, RS-485 or RS-232. I am planning to learn some programming so I can do the stuff myself which others haven't done yet. I once knew C/C++, and other electronic stuff, but because of not using it for years, revise and update them. Here is some code (one of the hits in the search for linux thermostat) http://linuxgazette.net/118/chong.html -- Tzafrir Cohen icq#16849755jabber:[EMAIL PROTECTED] +972-50-7952406 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.xorcom.com iax:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/tzafrir ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Is there any Asterisk controllable thermostat?
I suggest you get the code I mentioned in my last message - it is c/c++ code and as is usually the case with Linux, all the source code is there. Looking at examples is a great way to learn. Doug On Tue, 5 Dec 2006, Zeeshan Zakaria wrote: What skills are needed to write a code yourself for X10, RS-485 or RS-232. I am planning to learn some programming so I can do the stuff myself which others haven't done yet. I once knew C/C++, and other electronic stuff, but because of not using it for years, revise and update them. ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
RE: [asterisk-users] Is there any Asterisk controllable thermostat?
Asterisk can control any x10 capable device. For a good example, see http://lorancestinson.blogspot.com/2006/08/asterisk-can-control-world.ht ml From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Zeeshan Zakaria Sent: Sunday, December 03, 2006 8:05 PM To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion Subject: [asterisk-users] Is there any Asterisk controllable thermostat? I am wondering if there is any such thermostat available which can be controlled from Asterisk. Like you call your home pbx, dial some extension, e.g. 333 and it asks to set the temperature, you enter a temperature, and it sets the thermostat to that temperature. This thermostat will be very useful, e.g. when you're coming back home after a few days and now its snowing and you want home to be warm on your arrival, you can turn the furnace on an hour before your arrival. Is there any such thermostat available, and for that matter any other Asterisk controllable home automation devices? -- Zeeshan A Zakaria This message is confidential. It may also be privileged or otherwise protected by work product immunity or other legal rules. If you have received it by mistake, please let us know by e-mail reply and delete it from your system; you may not copy this message or disclose its contents to anyone. Please send us by fax any message containing deadlines as incoming e-mails are not screened for response deadlines. The integrity and security of this message cannot be guaranteed on the Internet. ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Is there any Asterisk controllable thermostat?
On Mon, 2006-12-04 at 00:58 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Date: Sun, 3 Dec 2006 23:04:52 -0500 From: Zeeshan Zakaria [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [asterisk-users] Is there any Asterisk controllable thermostat? To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion asterisk-users@lists.digium.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 I am wondering if there is any such thermostat available which can be controlled from Asterisk. Trixbox comes bundled with xPl, which is a home automation network API that is also common to Windows XP. I haven't seen any documentation of how to actually use it (with Trixbox/Asterisk), but I would be very interested in seeing some, including examples and supported HW. Like you call your home pbx, dial some extension, e.g. 333 and it asks to set the temperature, you enter a temperature, and it sets the thermostat to that temperature. This thermostat will be very useful, e.g. when you're coming back home after a few days and now its snowing and you want home to be warm on your arrival, you can turn the furnace on an hour before your arrival. Is there any such thermostat available, and for that matter any other Asterisk controllable home automation devices? -- Zeeshan A Zakaria -- (C) Matthew Rubenstein ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Is there any Asterisk controllable thermostat?
I would really like to see some documentation also. Best regards, Al Bochter Bochter Services http://www.BochterServices.com/?t=Email (VOIP PBX) 1-866-638-1254 (Voip PBX) Free World DialUp: 780-217 WebSite: http://www.freeworlddialup.com/ We have Toll Free DID's instock * * * NO MONTHLY FEE - LIMITED TIME ONLY * * * http://www.bochterservices.com/?t=TF(NM)did BUY Coins, Silver and Gold http://www.bochterservices.com/?j=goldt=email For new and used security items http://www.bochterservices.com/?j=storet=email_security Matthew Rubenstein wrote: On Mon, 2006-12-04 at 00:58 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Date: Sun, 3 Dec 2006 23:04:52 -0500 From: Zeeshan Zakaria [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [asterisk-users] Is there any Asterisk controllable thermostat? To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion asterisk-users@lists.digium.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 I am wondering if there is any such thermostat available which can be controlled from Asterisk. Trixbox comes bundled with xPl, which is a home automation network API that is also common to Windows XP. I haven't seen any documentation of how to actually use it (with Trixbox/Asterisk), but I would be very interested in seeing some, including examples and supported HW. Like you call your home pbx, dial some extension, e.g. 333 and it asks to set the temperature, you enter a temperature, and it sets the thermostat to that temperature. This thermostat will be very useful, e.g. when you're coming back home after a few days and now its snowing and you want home to be warm on your arrival, you can turn the furnace on an hour before your arrival. Is there any such thermostat available, and for that matter any other Asterisk controllable home automation devices? -- Zeeshan A Zakaria ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Is there any Asterisk controllable thermostat?
On Sun, Dec 03, 2006 at 11:04:52PM -0500, Zeeshan Zakaria wrote: I am wondering if there is any such thermostat available which can be controlled from Asterisk. Like you call your home pbx, dial some extension, e.g. 333 and it asks to set the temperature, you enter a temperature, and it sets the thermostat to that temperature. This thermostat will be very useful, e.g. when you're coming back home after a few days and now its snowing and you want home to be warm on your arrival, you can turn the furnace on an hour before your arrival. Is there any such thermostat available, and for that matter any other Asterisk controllable home automation devices? The first question you should ask yourself is: can Linux [or any other specific OS you run Asterisk on] contro a thermostat. Once you managed to do that, connecting it to Asterisk shouldn't be too big a deal. If all else fails, use AGI for quickdirty patching with external scripts. -- Tzafrir Cohen icq#16849755jabber:[EMAIL PROTECTED] +972-50-7952406 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.xorcom.com iax:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/tzafrir ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Is there any Asterisk controllable thermostat?
I am reading about xPL protocol since [EMAIL PROTECTED] 0.9, when I first used it. Its been more than two years now and I never saw any documentation on it. Their website itself needs material to be put on it. So xML is not a useful thing at all at this point. ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Is there any Asterisk controllable thermostat?
I meant xPL, not xML in my last eamil. ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Is there any Asterisk controllable thermostat?
Quoting Zeeshan Zakaria [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I am reading about xPL protocol since [EMAIL PROTECTED] 0.9, when I first used it. Its been more than two years now and I never saw any documentation on it. Their website itself needs material to be put on it. So xML is not a useful thing at all at this point. I have done some work on snmp enabling thermostats and burglar alarm systems with the end goal to integrate with asterisk / web interface eventually. SNMP in general is well supported and well documented for controlling devices. A subagent for the particular hardware and a generic snmp interface for asterisk would be what is required. The devices I was working with are actually talked to physically by the Dallas 1-wire hardware/protocol, and there is various linux support already for talking to those type of busses. interfacing to asterisk could be a nice module that talks snmp, or it could be as simple as calling the existing shell commands from netsnmp such as snmpget and snmpset. If anyone wants to discuss with me offlist, I have official IANA enterprise numbers already allocated for this, as well as some of the mibs started which cover a lot more than just the thermostats. Jon Pounder _/_/_/ _/_/ _/ _/_/_/ _/_/ _/_/_/_/ _/_/_/ _/ _/ _/_/_/ _/ _/_/ _/_/ _/_/ _/ _/_/ _/_/ _/ _/_/_/ _/_/ _/_/_/_/ _/_/_/ _/_/ _/_/_/_/ Inline Internet Systems Inc. Thorold, Ontario, Canada Tools to Power Your e-Business Solutions www.inline.net www.ihtml.com www.ihtmlmerchant.com www.opayc.com This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program. ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Is there any Asterisk controllable thermostat?
Quoting Zeeshan Zakaria [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I meant xPL, not xML in my last eamil. yeah got that :) - and I agree with you, it seems more like vapourware than anything with much substance at this point, I just looked over that a few days ago when I ran across it by accident. Jon Pounder _/_/_/ _/_/ _/ _/_/_/ _/_/ _/_/_/_/ _/_/_/ _/ _/ _/_/_/ _/ _/_/ _/_/ _/_/ _/ _/_/ _/_/ _/ _/_/_/ _/_/ _/_/_/_/ _/_/_/ _/_/ _/_/_/_/ Inline Internet Systems Inc. Thorold, Ontario, Canada Tools to Power Your e-Business Solutions www.inline.net www.ihtml.com www.ihtmlmerchant.com www.opayc.com This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program. ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Is there any Asterisk controllable thermostat?
I remembered I had an x10 bottlerocket in my X10 junkbox so I connected it to a spare serial port on my linux server (asterisk resides there) and implemented with some mods the code mentioned earlier http://lorance.freeshell.org/asterisk/#asterisk-can-control-the-world and it works great. Now I have one more way to control X10 devices. I can even call my VM on the way home and turn on my lights or whatever before I get home. Doug ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
[asterisk-users] Is there any Asterisk controllable thermostat?
I am wondering if there is any such thermostat available which can be controlled from Asterisk. Like you call your home pbx, dial some extension, e.g. 333 and it asks to set the temperature, you enter a temperature, and it sets the thermostat to that temperature. This thermostat will be very useful, e.g. when you're coming back home after a few days and now its snowing and you want home to be warm on your arrival, you can turn the furnace on an hour before your arrival. Is there any such thermostat available, and for that matter any other Asterisk controllable home automation devices? -- Zeeshan A Zakaria ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Is there any Asterisk controllable thermostat?
Never tried, but this should work: http://www.smarthome.com/3001.html Lots of neat stuff on that site. On 12/3/06, Zeeshan Zakaria [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am wondering if there is any such thermostat available which can be controlled from Asterisk. Like you call your home pbx, dial some extension, e.g. 333 and it asks to set the temperature, you enter a temperature, and it sets the thermostat to that temperature. This thermostat will be very useful, e.g. when you're coming back home after a few days and now its snowing and you want home to be warm on your arrival, you can turn the furnace on an hour before your arrival. Is there any such thermostat available, and for that matter any other Asterisk controllable home automation devices? -- Zeeshan A Zakaria ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
