Re: [asterisk-users] Learn some terminalogy before mounting thistask.

2007-08-06 Thread James FitzGibbon
On 8/5/07, James R. Stevens [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 In the design of an Asterisk system using Cisco 7900 series SIP phones
 we are struggling with giving the reception folks (3) hardware that can
 tell them the status of everyone in the office (10 or so) (On the phone,
 out of office etc) Something that would register each of the extensions
 we choose and give status of that ext.

 What hardware (Phone or other) could we give the receptionist to do
 this?


You're probably looking for something like this:

http://www.cisco.com/en/US/products/hw/phones/ps379/products_data_sheet09186a008008883d.html

I have no experience integrating this specific piece of hardware with
Asterisk, but I've done what you're trying to do with the Grandstream
equivalent for our front reception:

http://www.grandstream.com/gxp2000.html

and

http://www.grandstream.com/gxp2000ext.html

As I understand it, so long as the device can do a SIP SUBSCRIBE for each
extension you want to monitor and you configure hints in your Asterisk
dialplan for those extensions, it should work.  You may need to set
'subscribecontext' (in sip.conf) for the phone that will be watching the
extensions unless your hints are in the same context as the phone uses for
outbound dialing.

Of course, what the device does with the various payloads contained in the
SIP NOTIFY messages is going to be different for each phone.  On the
Grandstream I can see 'not in use' (solid green) and 'ringing' (flashing
red) distinctly, but 'unavailable' and 'in use' are both mapped to a solid
red, which makes it somewhat useless for transiently connected user agents
like softphones.

Hopefully someone with experience will speak up and confirm that the 7900
series does interop properly with Asterisk for SUBSCRIBE and NOTIFY.

If that doesn't work, you could always go with a software solution, like the
Flash Operator Panel.  voip-info has a list (look at the Operator section
on the page): http://www.voip-info.org/wiki/view/Asterisk+GUI

-- 
j.
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Re: [asterisk-users] Learn some terminalogy before mounting thistask.

2007-08-05 Thread James R. Stevens
All,

In the design of an Asterisk system using Cisco 7900 series SIP phones
we are struggling with giving the reception folks (3) hardware that can
tell them the status of everyone in the office (10 or so) (On the phone,
out of office etc) Something that would register each of the extensions
we choose and give status of that ext.

What hardware (Phone or other) could we give the receptionist to do
this?


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Jones
Sent: Monday, July 02, 2007 4:53 PM
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Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] Learn some terminalogy before mounting
thistask.


On Jul 2, 2007, at 4:31 PM, James R. Stevens wrote:

 All,

 It's been some time since this thread was alive but we are now seeing
 some progress in this project. Which I will document.
 We have ordered a T1 for the new building which we are moving (We are
 getting 14 channels of the T1.) and have a Sangoma A101 card for a 3U
 rack server.
 The T1 will have B8ZF decoding and ESF framing  which the sangoma card
 should handle.

 They asked me if we want NI1 or NI2 ?? Is this a reference to the  
 PRI ?
Yes. You want NI2.



 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Pierre
 Marceau
 Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2007 11:25 PM
 To: asterisk-users@lists.digium.com
 Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] Learn some terminalogy before mounting
 this task.

 James,

 I'm sorry that I can't add anything but just wanted you to know that I
 am watching this thread with great interest and suspect that many  
 others
 will too.

 Thanks in advance for posting lots of details as you go thru the
 process.

 Pierre


 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 4/10/2007 10:41:36 PM 

 Hi James,

Admittedly, the terminological and conceptual barrier may present
 some
 impediments to the completeness and specificity of answers, so we  
 might
 have to work at this a bit, but let's see how we can help:

 On Tue, 10 Apr 2007, James R. Stevens said something to this effect:

 We have a T1 coming into the building(FYI-Our Voice and Data are on
 separate T's) terminating at the Smart Jack.

Are you implying that there are two T1 circuits -- one voice,  
 and one

 data?  Or do you mean that the T1 is channelised and some of the
 channels
 are used for voice and some for data?  That's kind of what it sounds
 like.
 Sounds like you can do 7 calls on voice channels and the rest are
 provisioned as a clear-channel data pipe.

That would mean that you have some equipment for breaking them  
 out on

 your premises.  The channel bank would break out the voice lines as  
 FXO
 analogue lines (if you set it to) and those probably feed into your  
 PBX.

 The rest of the channels used for data would probably be signaled  
 out on
 another T1 interface, but with some subrate DS0 channels missing.
 That's
 ust a guess.

But what you say below suggests that my theory is wrong, so perhaps
 it is
 the case that you have separate voice and data T1s after all, even
 though
 you refer to it in the singular.

Do be aware that under no circumstances does anyone generally refer
 to a
 T1 as a T.  :)

 I can tell you our current phone system can handle 7 phone calls at a
 time:

   Does this mean the T only has 7 channels provisioned out of the 24
 possible?

This is possible.  Do you happen to know what kind of signaling is
 used
 on it?  Is it an ISDN PRI, or an EM trunk?

  Does a channel (In terms of the T1) = a port?

A port on what?  The channel bank?

Channel banks generally do break the DS0s (subrate 64 kbps  
 channels,
 of
 which there are 24 on a T1) out, but some more sophisticated ones have
 the
 capability to do other things as well.

If so, the answer is yes.

  How many phone calls can one TDM400 support concurrently? (four ??)

If it has four FXO ports and four FXO modules, yes.  They come in
 different combinations.  Some come with 2 FXO (outside POTS lines  
 to CO)

 and 2 FXS (plain analogue POTS handsets) ports, etc.

  Would I be better off getting a Zapata T1 card and forgetting the
 Channel bank all together(Use the digital signal)?

You could do that.  Personally, the easiest approach I would say
 would be
 to order a PRI.  They've probably considerably gone down in prices,  
 too,

 especially if you go shopping with some friendly CLECs.  The rule of
 thumb
 in the industry is that generally, once you pass the threshold of  
 six or

 seven POTS lines, it becomes economical to just order an entire  
 PRI, and

 once you do that, there usually aren't *very* considerable savings  
 to be

 gained from turning down all but a few channels.  A PRI has 23  
 channels
 (bearer channels (B channels)) and one signaling channel (D
 channel);
 it's a type of T1-based ISDN interface.

So, you might potentially be able to get 23 in/outbound phone lines
 for
 roughly the same cost or a modest

Re: [asterisk-users] Learn some terminalogy before mounting thistask.

2007-07-03 Thread John Faubion
They asked me if we want NI1 or NI2 ?? Is this a reference to the PRI ?

Yes, and just to complicate matters further, they are probably asking about
the NT-1 or NT-2 which is the Network Termination type. NI1/NI2 usually
refers to the National ISDN phase, for which the difference has generally
been eliminated. The NT-1 is a 2-wire U interface while the NT-2 is a
4-wire S/T interface. Since both NT-1 and NT-2 use the same RJ-45
connector, albeit different pins, most cards now support either interface,
and often auto-magically. I haven't used the Sangoma cards, but since the
Digium cards support this, I would expect the Sangoma cards to do the same.
Now the reason they are asking is, if your router only supported a 4-wire
S/T interface, then they will need to provide a CSU/DSU to convert the
NT-1 or U interface. Or if you already had an external CSU/DSU you might
want the NT-1 interface.

Now having said all of that, I'm actually going to recommend that you tell
them you need the NT-2 interface. Why? Demarcation. Most providers want to
provide the CSU/DSU and give you a S/T interface. The reasons are, if they
provide the CPE interface, they are going to use a box they know will work.
That way if you have problems, they can confirm that the circuit is good to
that point. What you do with the circuit after that isn't their concern.
Plus if you were to accidentally connect the 4-wire circuit directly to
120 volt AC power, you are most likely only going to fry the CSU/DSU and not
the equipment in their concentrator around the corner. Additionally, it
works both ways. If the cabinet on the corner of the block takes a lightning
strike, the CSS/DSU goes up in smoke and hopefully protects your equipment.
So just because you can use either interface, doesn't mean you should. Clear
as mud, isn't it?

John


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