Re: [asterisk-users] Looking for ideas for nice **Asterisk** home phone system
On Fri, 2011-08-26 at 19:03 -0400, Eric Wieling wrote: -Original Message- From: asterisk-users-boun...@lists.digium.com [mailto:asterisk-users-boun...@lists.digium.com] On Behalf Of Hans Witvliet Sent: Friday, August 26, 2011 6:09 PM To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] Looking for ideas for nice **Asterisk** home phone system On Fri, 2011-08-26 at 07:41 -0700, Steve Edwards wrote: On Fri, 26 Aug 2011, linux guy wrote: How much power does the home asterisk box need ? I use a small box (like those hp thin clients) But these are a bit stronger aluminium housing, instead of plastic, and better foor cooling. Power consumption: 8 Watt under full load CPU: Model: 6.28.2 Intel(R) Atom(TM) CPU Z530 @ 1.60GHz Memory Size: 1 GB Disk /dev/sda: 64.0 GB, 64023257088 bytes This model has just one ethernet port, others have two Size: 10x10 cm Is this a custom build box or does a company sell them preassembled?We are always on the lookout for potential boxes we can use for small installations. It is pre-assembled, You can opt for either no internal disk small (8GB) sdd, larger (64GB) sdd or ordinary disk, And either no, MS, or ubuntu pre-installed. Also with/without wifi antenna. hw -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: http://www.asterisk.org/hello asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Looking for ideas for nice **Asterisk** home phone system
On Sat, 2011-08-27 at 09:31 +0100, Alan Lord (News) wrote: On 26/08/11 12:28, linux guy wrote: Great discussion, all of it. Thanks, people. How much power does the home asterisk box need ? Not much :-) I've been running our phone system and home media/storage network on a VIA C7 cpu based home build that I *downclocked* to 1Ghz from 1.2Ghz for about three years now. Al I've been running the house phone system on a re-purposed Seagate Dockstar with a 4G USB stick for over a year now. FreePBX, hylafax, iaxmodem, and 1.4 on Ubuntu. Wish I could still buy these buggers - I got this one for $30! j -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: http://www.asterisk.org/hello asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Looking for ideas for nice **Asterisk** home phone system
On 26/08/11 12:28, linux guy wrote: Great discussion, all of it. Thanks, people. How much power does the home asterisk box need ? Not much :-) I've been running our phone system and home media/storage network on a VIA C7 cpu based home build that I *downclocked* to 1Ghz from 1.2Ghz for about three years now. Al -- The Open Learning Centre http://www.theopenlearningcentre.com -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: http://www.asterisk.org/hello asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Looking for ideas for nice **Asterisk** home phone system
I gu On Thu, Aug 25, 2011 at 5:58 AM, Tzafrir Cohen tzafrir.co...@xorcom.comwrote: On Thu, Aug 25, 2011 at 12:39:14AM -0400, Steve Totaro wrote: I used the Asteirsk System() app to call lynx with a special URL. The URL contains all the authentication, recipient, and SMS body. Calling that URL via System(), as I said, I like lynx, causes an SMS to be sent. Kannel is extremely customizable. Slightly off-topic: why not use CURL()? -- Tzafrir Cohen icq#16849755 jabber:tzafrir.co...@xorcom.com +972-50-7952406 mailto:tzafrir.co...@xorcom.com http://www.xorcom.com iax:gu...@local.xorcom.com/tzafrir Because my first inplementation was before Curl() was part of Asterisk. I am very familiar with Lynx and it wjust works. Never an issue. Don't enable or use apps on an Asterisk system if there is another, reliable app that can be used. I keep Asterisk's role to a minimum. I only load the apps that are needed for the implementation. I usually build them all, but, either I do a noload or rename the .so. I also try to put other functions of different machines, to segregate the mission critical, or at least the as much Asterisk from other features. Databases, fast-agi, HylaFax, recording calls, and whatever else. It is just the way I do things, budget providing of course. I want the core being as stripped down OS, apps, and Asterisk as possible. Thanks, Steve T -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: http://www.asterisk.org/hello asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Looking for ideas for nice **Asterisk** home phone system
Great discussion, people. I'm ordering hardware today. -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: http://www.asterisk.org/hello asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Looking for ideas for nice **Asterisk** home phone system
Great discussion, all of it. Thanks, people. How much power does the home asterisk box need ? I'm using Asus Eee Box (1012Ps) as Myth front ends in another project. About $280 with 320 Gb hard drive and 2 GB RAM. Atom 510 processor. Built in Wifi. Nearly silent. Runs F15 nicely. Would one of them suffice ? FWIW, I'm typing this email on one now because my main system is down. It looks like I am going to need an ATA for the fax machines. Two. My wife informed me yesterday she wants her own in her office. VOIP handles fax machines, right ? I'm wondering what phones everyone is using. Should I stick with analog wireless handsets or are there some good SIP wireless phones out there that I don't know about ??? Thanks. -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: http://www.asterisk.org/hello asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Looking for ideas for nice **Asterisk** home phone system
If you really want to go that route, you should also look at AstLinux and install it on an HP thin client such as a 5720. No Hard Drive spinning, and something like 30 watts. No fan either. All the asterisk files can be edited either through SSH or a web interface. I have a bunch out working for a private VOIP network of telephone collectors. Many also integrate PSTN lines through various means 5720's can be had on eBay for a LOT less money John Novack linux guy wrote: Great discussion, all of it. Thanks, people. How much power does the home asterisk box need ? I'm using Asus Eee Box (1012Ps) as Myth front ends in another project. About $280 with 320 Gb hard drive and 2 GB RAM. Atom 510 processor. Built in Wifi. Nearly silent. Runs F15 nicely. Would one of them suffice ? FWIW, I'm typing this email on one now because my main system is down. It looks like I am going to need an ATA for the fax machines. Two. My wife informed me yesterday she wants her own in her office. VOIP handles fax machines, right ? I'm wondering what phones everyone is using. Should I stick with analog wireless handsets or are there some good SIP wireless phones out there that I don't know about ??? Thanks. -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: http://www.asterisk.org/hello asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users -- Dog is my Co-pilot -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: http://www.asterisk.org/hello asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Looking for ideas for nice **Asterisk** home phone system
On Fri, 26 Aug 2011, linux guy wrote: How much power does the home asterisk box need ? Much less than you would think. Any modern processor is more than enough. I'm using Asus Eee Box (1012Ps) as Myth front ends in another project. About $280 with 320 Gb hard drive and 2 GB RAM. Atom 510 processor. Built in Wifi. Nearly silent. Runs F15 nicely. Would one of them suffice ? More than enough unless your extended multi-generation family lives with you. And you multiply like rabbits. And you all want to talk at the same time. The LinuxMCE (http://http://linuxmce.org/) project may be of interest to you. They integrate Asterisk, Myth, home automation and the kitchen sink into a single distribution. They just announced their 8.10 release candidate a couple of days ago. -- Thanks in advance, - Steve Edwards sedwa...@sedwards.com Voice: +1-760-468-3867 PST Newline Fax: +1-760-731-3000-- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: http://www.asterisk.org/hello asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Looking for ideas for nice **Asterisk** home phone system
Great discussion, all of it. Thanks, people. How much power does the home asterisk box need ? I'm using Asus Eee Box (1012Ps) as Myth front ends in another project. About $280 with 320 Gb hard drive and 2 GB RAM. Atom 510 processor. Built in Wifi. Nearly silent. Runs F15 nicely. Would one of them suffice ? I'm running my small home Asterisk system on an Itox motherboard with an Atom N270, at 1.6 GHz. No CPU-related problems noted. In fact, I'd run it fairly successfully on a Pentium Pro 200, and it worked well enough for simple uses (e.g. no fancy codecs or transcoding). It looks like I am going to need an ATA for the fax machines. Two. My wife informed me yesterday she wants her own in her office. VOIP handles fax machines, right ? This could very well be the most problematic (heart-breaking, frustrating) part of your whole intended installation. Fax - modem - very sensitive to jitter and dropouts. Making fax work over VoIP (using A-law or u-law) is often feasible within a LAN environment, because the jitter and packet-loss rates are low. Making fax work decently on VoIP over the Internet is much harder... jitter and packet-loss rates which would be slightly annoying for a voice conversation can seriously disrupt or abort a fax call. Some (relatively few) VoIP providers support a specialized mode called T.38. in which their far end equipment intervenes in the fax protocol in order to smooth out the process of making fax work over a lossy/jittery/high-latency VoIP connection. This isn't common and seems to be hard to count on. I suspect you'll be better off either: (1) maintaining one analog land-line, and using it for fax (and perhaps backup for VoIP), and/or (2) subscribing to a commercial fax to email gateway service, in which people send their faxes to a number owned by the service provider, and the resulting fax is converted to a compressed PDF and then emailed to you. I imagine that some of these providers also have an email to fax service, operating in the reverse direction... you email a PDF or other file to an address alias they provide, and it's faxed out for you. You *can* operate a sort of hybrid system in your house, if that's convenient to you... e.g. a SIP ATA for your fax machine, to Asterisk, to an analog land-line (via either a dedicated PCI bus card, or an outbound port on a channel bank or certain ATA devices). The jitter and delay on the home LAN would be low enough that this should work reliably. You could also run a combination of hylafax, and iaxmodem on the Asterisk system, and thus use the Asterisk server as a fax-to-email / email-to-fax / document-to-fax gateway. I'm wondering what phones everyone is using. Should I stick with analog wireless handsets or are there some good SIP wireless phones out there that I don't know about ??? Several companies make DECT SIP phones and systems... typically I think they'll handle 4 to 6 DECT handsets, and a couple of independent SIP calls at any given moment. These may or may not be less expensive than buying some one- or two-analog-line SIP systems, and some ATAs; they'd definitely involve less equipment and wiring. -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: http://www.asterisk.org/hello asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Looking for ideas for nice **Asterisk** home phone system
I was thinking of using a PAP2T-NA for the ATA to handle the fax. It appears to have a large number of fax specific settings. Can anyone comment on using this device with a fax ? -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: http://www.asterisk.org/hello asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Looking for ideas for nice **Asterisk** home phone system
On Fri, 2011-08-26 at 12:10 -0600, linux guy wrote: I was thinking of using a PAP2T-NA for the ATA to handle the fax. It appears to have a large number of fax specific settings. Can anyone comment on using this device with a fax ? If you are using POTs to bring in your fax calls you should be ok for home use. I do this with a PAP2T-NA, Hylafax, and iaxmodem. I have iaxmodem accept the fax, then relay it to the PAP2T. I use the second port to drive a Panasonic DECT base station with five satellites, which I have spread around the house. The Panasonic is the only one I have found that has the ability to host a ton of satellites without having a ton of redundant features on the base station (don't really need an answering machine, for example). Its also the only one where the handsets have nice 2.5mm headset jacks, which I use all day. I've never really understood the need for wireless SIP handsets. An ATA plus a normal DECT set seems perfect to me. j -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: http://www.asterisk.org/hello asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Looking for ideas for nice **Asterisk** home phone system
Do any of the DECT systems handle multiple incoming phone lines ? How do the DECT systems integrate with the voice mail services on an Asterisk system ? -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: http://www.asterisk.org/hello asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Looking for ideas for nice **Asterisk** home phone system
On Fri, 2011-08-26 at 12:37 -0600, linux guy wrote: Do any of the DECT systems handle multiple incoming phone lines ? How do the DECT systems integrate with the voice mail services on an Asterisk system ? The single line Panasonic that I use doesn't handle multiple phone lines itself, but the ATA will give you call waiting capability, and asterisk will give you the ability to take in multiple DID numbers (via ITSP or POTS). The voicemail in Asterisk is used via the dialplan like you would with any handset. With stock FreePBX, for example, you would dial *97 to access the voicemail associated with the extension that covers that PORT (which would be ALL of the handsets on that basestation). j -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: http://www.asterisk.org/hello asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Looking for ideas for nice **Asterisk** home phone system
On 08/26/2011 02:26 PM, Jeff LaCoursiere wrote: On Fri, 2011-08-26 at 12:10 -0600, linux guy wrote: I was thinking of using a PAP2T-NA for the ATA to handle the fax. It appears to have a large number of fax specific settings. Can anyone comment on using this device with a fax ? If you are using POTs to bring in your fax calls you should be ok for home use. I do this with a PAP2T-NA, Hylafax, and iaxmodem. I have iaxmodem accept the fax, then relay it to the PAP2T. I use the second port to drive a Panasonic DECT base station with five satellites, which I have spread around the house. The Panasonic is the only one I have found that has the ability to host a ton of satellites without having a ton of redundant features on the base station (don't really need an answering machine, for example). Its also the only one where the handsets have nice 2.5mm headset jacks, which I use all day. I've never really understood the need for wireless SIP handsets. An ATA plus a normal DECT set seems perfect to me. The way I use it I have one device in my pocket, I can get my calls on the couch, in the yard, down the street, at the office or in another city. sip + wifi doesn't just have to be at your house, it can be anywhere there is wifi available. j -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: http://www.asterisk.org/hello asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: http://www.asterisk.org/hello asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Looking for ideas for nice **Asterisk** home phone system
At 04:28 AM 8/26/2011, you wrote: I'm using Asus Eee Box (1012Ps) as Myth front ends in another project. About $280 with 320 Gb hard drive and 2 GB RAM. Atom 510 processor. Built in Wifi. Nearly silent. Runs F15 nicely. Would one of them suffice ? I have a dual core Atom I use for my home office Asterisk/Samba box. Never seen TOP show over 5% unless I was doing a build or something. I have a Digium Analog card for my POTS lines so I needed a bigger case. I use faxaway.com which costs $12/year for a fax number and essentially unlimited email delivered faxes. Makes my wife happy and I don't have to figure out how to get faxes to work. Ira -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: http://www.asterisk.org/hello asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Looking for ideas for nice **Asterisk** home phone system
On Friday, August 26, 2011, linux guy wrote: Do any of the DECT systems handle multiple incoming phone lines ? They don't. However, that's not an issue because Asterisk does. Incoming, I have two PSTN lines, three SIP providers, and used to have an IAX2 provider also. Asterisk integrates them all and uses least-cost routing to place outgoing calls through the various trunks. How do the DECT systems integrate with the voice mail services on an Asterisk system ? Exactly the same as all other handsets and softphones. Voicemail comes into my email as well as being available by dialling the appropriate voicemail number from any handset. In another message you mentioned using a PAP2 with a Panasonic phone on each line. This is similar to what I have and it works well for me. HTH, -- Geoff -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: http://www.asterisk.org/hello asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Looking for ideas for nice **Asterisk** home phone system
On Fri, 2011-08-26 at 07:41 -0700, Steve Edwards wrote: On Fri, 26 Aug 2011, linux guy wrote: How much power does the home asterisk box need ? I use a small box (like those hp thin clients) But these are a bit stronger aluminium housing, instead of plastic, and better foor cooling. Power consumption: 8 Watt under full load CPU: Model: 6.28.2 Intel(R) Atom(TM) CPU Z530 @ 1.60GHz Memory Size: 1 GB Disk /dev/sda: 64.0 GB, 64023257088 bytes This model has just one ethernet port, others have two Size: 10x10 cm hw -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: http://www.asterisk.org/hello asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Looking for ideas for nice **Asterisk** home phone system
-Original Message- From: asterisk-users-boun...@lists.digium.com [mailto:asterisk-users-boun...@lists.digium.com] On Behalf Of Hans Witvliet Sent: Friday, August 26, 2011 6:09 PM To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] Looking for ideas for nice **Asterisk** home phone system On Fri, 2011-08-26 at 07:41 -0700, Steve Edwards wrote: On Fri, 26 Aug 2011, linux guy wrote: How much power does the home asterisk box need ? I use a small box (like those hp thin clients) But these are a bit stronger aluminium housing, instead of plastic, and better foor cooling. Power consumption: 8 Watt under full load CPU: Model: 6.28.2 Intel(R) Atom(TM) CPU Z530 @ 1.60GHz Memory Size: 1 GB Disk /dev/sda: 64.0 GB, 64023257088 bytes This model has just one ethernet port, others have two Size: 10x10 cm Is this a custom build box or does a company sell them preassembled?We are always on the lookout for potential boxes we can use for small installations. -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: http://www.asterisk.org/hello asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Looking for ideas for nice **Asterisk** home phone system
Steve Totaro wrote: VoIP mostly aside, a couple more thoughts. I am not sure I understand your reasoning for DISA or how it is cheaper. The only reason we use DISA is to spoof the caller id. The OP also wanted to save costs, which is also possible (as someone already confirmed). DISA does save some cost for me too, but it is immaterial. The call from the mobile to the asterisk box is free or flat fee due to calling groups offered by our provider. The outgoing call is charged at regular fixnet prices, much cheaper than mobile ditto. You can buy a card that accepts SIMs as FXO and FXS. For your reasoning, a card of such nature is required. Populate it with different SIMs or whatever that are in calling groups or whatever you were trying to say. You've lost me, I have no idea what you're talking about. Just use callback back and some logic to reduce your costs. Call back will allow you to use the corp identity, and LCR will cut costs over DISA. The system calls you back after you make a call. Then the call is placed. There is a very brief outbound cell phone call, followed by a an inbound call from the server that you initiated with call back. OK, I see. I haven't looked at that, but it sounds more complicated than using DISA, and I'm not convinced it would be any cheaper. (it's important that the scheme be easy to use from the mobile end). Inbound to a cell is generally less expensive that oubound on a cell, sometimes completely free. Yes, inbound to a mobile is free as long as you're not roaming. However, with our calling group setup, it doesn't matter who (fix or mobile) originates the call, the cost is the same. /Per Jessen, Zürich -- http://www.spamchek.com/ - your spam is our business. -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: http://www.asterisk.org/hello asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Looking for ideas for nice **Asterisk** home phone system
So in other worlds you had nothing to contribute to this thread. On Thu, Aug 25, 2011 at 2:44 AM, Per Jessen p...@computer.org wrote: Steve Totaro wrote: VoIP mostly aside, a couple more thoughts. I am not sure I understand your reasoning for DISA or how it is cheaper. The only reason we use DISA is to spoof the caller id. The OP also wanted to save costs, which is also possible (as someone already confirmed). DISA does save some cost for me too, but it is immaterial. The call from the mobile to the asterisk box is free or flat fee due to calling groups offered by our provider. The outgoing call is charged at regular fixnet prices, much cheaper than mobile ditto. You can buy a card that accepts SIMs as FXO and FXS. For your reasoning, a card of such nature is required. Populate it with different SIMs or whatever that are in calling groups or whatever you were trying to say. You've lost me, I have no idea what you're talking about. Just use callback back and some logic to reduce your costs. Call back will allow you to use the corp identity, and LCR will cut costs over DISA. The system calls you back after you make a call. Then the call is placed. There is a very brief outbound cell phone call, followed by a an inbound call from the server that you initiated with call back. OK, I see. I haven't looked at that, but it sounds more complicated than using DISA, and I'm not convinced it would be any cheaper. (it's important that the scheme be easy to use from the mobile end). Inbound to a cell is generally less expensive that oubound on a cell, sometimes completely free. Yes, inbound to a mobile is free as long as you're not roaming. However, with our calling group setup, it doesn't matter who (fix or mobile) originates the call, the cost is the same. /Per Jessen, Zürich -- http://www.spamchek.com/ - your spam is our business. -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: http://www.asterisk.org/hello asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: http://www.asterisk.org/hello asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Looking for ideas for nice **Asterisk** home phone system
Steve Totaro wrote: So in other worlds you had nothing to contribute to this thread. I did - you didn't understand my reasoning, I explained it. If you had nothing to contribute to this thread, perhaps you should have stayed away too. /Per Jessen, Zürich -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: http://www.asterisk.org/hello asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Looking for ideas for nice **Asterisk** home phone system
Steve, On Thu, 2011-08-25 at 00:39 -0400, Steve Totaro wrote: ... For fax, I use Hylafax and for text, I use Kannel. These are WAY more powerful than Asterisk apps. With Kannel, I used the Bluetooth GSM modem to send SMS from my cell. Kannel is awesome as is HylaFAX I used the Asteirsk System() app to call lynx with a special URL. The URL contains all the authentication, recipient, and SMS body. Calling that URL via System(), as I said, I like lynx, causes an SMS to be sent. Kannel is extremely customizable. I once had ten cell phones for for SMS modems. My findings with t-mobile were that each phone could send an SMS once a second. With ten, using chan_bluetooth, I could send ten SMS per second using ten phones. Kannel is very well developed. Chan_mobile is incredible. The same is true with HylaFAX. Thanks, Steve T I'm looking at using Kannel for a project here. Would you mind if I contacted you off list with some getting started questions? Skyler -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: http://www.asterisk.org/hello asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Looking for ideas for nice **Asterisk** home phone system
On Thu, Aug 25, 2011 at 4:36 AM, Skyler skchopper...@gmail.com wrote: Steve, On Thu, 2011-08-25 at 00:39 -0400, Steve Totaro wrote: ... For fax, I use Hylafax and for text, I use Kannel. These are WAY more powerful than Asterisk apps. With Kannel, I used the Bluetooth GSM modem to send SMS from my cell. Kannel is awesome as is HylaFAX I used the Asteirsk System() app to call lynx with a special URL. The URL contains all the authentication, recipient, and SMS body. Calling that URL via System(), as I said, I like lynx, causes an SMS to be sent. Kannel is extremely customizable. I once had ten cell phones for for SMS modems. My findings with t-mobile were that each phone could send an SMS once a second. With ten, using chan_bluetooth, I could send ten SMS per second using ten phones. Kannel is very well developed. Chan_mobile is incredible. The same is true with HylaFAX. Thanks, Steve T I'm looking at using Kannel for a project here. Would you mind if I contacted you off list with some getting started questions? Skyler Skyler, I would be glad to help within reason. Since it is not Asterisk and I use app System() and Lynx as the glue, it wouldn't fit asterisk user's list anyways. I use fast AGI for most of the SMS variables. Helping within reason is good for my karma, too much and I need to be compensated. At the very least, thanked publically ; Like the old Italian saying, I give my friends just enough so that they need me, but not too much so that they dont I have quite a bit of experience with Kannel and the code. Hit me up and let's see what help I can provide. Thanks, Steve T -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: http://www.asterisk.org/hello asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Looking for ideas for nice **Asterisk** home phone system
On Thu, Aug 25, 2011 at 12:39:14AM -0400, Steve Totaro wrote: I used the Asteirsk System() app to call lynx with a special URL. The URL contains all the authentication, recipient, and SMS body. Calling that URL via System(), as I said, I like lynx, causes an SMS to be sent. Kannel is extremely customizable. Slightly off-topic: why not use CURL()? -- Tzafrir Cohen icq#16849755 jabber:tzafrir.co...@xorcom.com +972-50-7952406 mailto:tzafrir.co...@xorcom.com http://www.xorcom.com iax:gu...@local.xorcom.com/tzafrir -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: http://www.asterisk.org/hello asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Looking for ideas for nice **Asterisk** home phone system
Linuxguy123 wrote: My original post didn't mention it, but I would like my home system to be Asterisk based. Has anyone figured out how to minimize cell charges when on the road via making calls via the home phone system ? Yep, look up DISA: http://www.voip-info.org/wiki/view/Asterisk+cmd+DISA /Per Jessen, Zürich -- http://www.spamchek.com/ - fully managed email archive. Made in Switzerland. -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: http://www.asterisk.org/hello asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Looking for ideas for nice **Asterisk** home phone system
On Wed, Aug 24, 2011 at 2:42 AM, Per Jessen p...@computer.org wrote: Linuxguy123 wrote: My original post didn't mention it, but I would like my home system to be Asterisk based. Has anyone figured out how to minimize cell charges when on the road via making calls via the home phone system ? Yep, look up DISA: http://www.voip-info.org/wiki/view/Asterisk+cmd+DISA /Per Jessen, Zürich -- Just curious how DISA would help with cell phone usage charges. I have unlimited data, voice, and text for $40/mo so I don't much care about the cost, just the brain cancer. In the Mano River Area of Africa and I assume elsewhere, where everything is SIM Based and inbound calls are free even if you use up your balance, for a month after activating the SIM, I could see some benefit. But at least here, if you are on a per minute plan, how would DISA help? Obviously, different countries and carriers do things differently, but I don't pay for anything extra, no roaming, nothing. When overseas, I buy a phone card or a SIM. Maybe if toll free didn't count as minutes, you could setup a TF VoIP number on your Asterisk box and save on your cell phone. For my situation, DISA is pointless except for road warriors who call all over the world, from anywhere, they can call into the corp system, get dialtone and skip the whole process of expense reports for work related calls. It makes things less complex, not more. Maybe if you explain your situation and how your plan works, but for me, personally, DISA would be a an added cost and complication. The only purpose I can think of for myself could be accomplished by spoofing caller id. Thanks, Steve T -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: http://www.asterisk.org/hello asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Looking for ideas for nice **Asterisk** home phone system
Steve Totaro wrote: On Wed, Aug 24, 2011 at 2:42 AM, Per Jessen p...@computer.org wrote: Linuxguy123 wrote: My original post didn't mention it, but I would like my home system to be Asterisk based. Has anyone figured out how to minimize cell charges when on the road via making calls via the home phone system ? Yep, look up DISA: http://www.voip-info.org/wiki/view/Asterisk+cmd+DISA /Per Jessen, Zürich -- Just curious how DISA would help with cell phone usage charges. Assuming multiple mobiles (e.g. household or office), a typical setup around here (Switzerland) is that you can call freely within a group of numbers, often including one or two fixnet numbers. But at least here, if you are on a per minute plan, how would DISA Where is here? help? Obviously, different countries and carriers do things differently, but I don't pay for anything extra, no roaming, nothing. Did you mean to say you don't pay for roaming either?? Wow. I could do with a subscription like that. (here roaming means using your phone in another country). For my situation, DISA is pointless except for road warriors who call all over the world, from anywhere, they can call into the corp system, get dialtone and skip the whole process of expense reports for work related calls. It makes things less complex, not more. Using DISA also means getting a corp caller id, not a mobile. Maybe if you explain your situation and how your plan works, but for me, personally, DISA would be a an added cost and complication. The only purpose I can think of for myself could be accomplished by spoofing caller id. How is that done from a mobile? Sofar that has been my main reason for using DISA - cost is not a real issue. /Per Jessen, Zürich -- http://www.spamchek.com/ - your spam is our business. -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: http://www.asterisk.org/hello asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Looking for ideas for nice **Asterisk** home phone system
Per Jessen wrote: help? Obviously, different countries and carriers do things differently, but I don't pay for anything extra, no roaming, nothing. Did you mean to say you don't pay for roaming either?? Wow. I could do with a subscription like that. (here roaming means using your phone in another country). I guess theoretically roaming is using a GSM network other than your home network, but in Europe that = roaming internationally, which is typically very pricey. /Per Jessen, Zürich -- http://www.spamchek.com/ - your spam is our business. -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: http://www.asterisk.org/hello asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Looking for ideas for nice **Asterisk** home phone system
On Tue, 2011-08-23 at 21:36 -0700, Skyler wrote: Hi, On Tue, 2011-08-23 at 21:50 -0600, Linuxguy123 wrote: So you have asterisk loaded on a wireless router ? Linksys 54G by chance ? Yes, Asterisk at the moment. Cisco E3000. 54G is too small for asterisk, not enough flash/cpu. OK. I'm a 54G guy. I just bought a E4200 the other day for our media network. Which VOIP phones are you using ? Which ATA are you using ? I have Aastra 6731i, PAP2T, HT286 a Polycom and an Snom unit. Linphone, Bria, jitsi work as well for PC/Mac/iPhone. Any voip device/software would work. OK. The wife uses call-through on her Blackberry with MY10, she adds contacts with a pause after her voxnumber; like 1NPANXX,personsnumber so it dials in then dials out on the trunk. We have unlimited 60 countries so we can literally call anywhere, from anywhere and never have to think about it. Our plans have free local calling and 20 cents a minute for long distance. I spent $80 last week on long distance that would have been $12 on our home plan. To say nothing of all the other benefits. Took me 6 months here-and-there to get it this far. Well worth it though as we save about $180/month in cell phone bills now between us. Right. Are you using a POTS connection or SIP provider for your phone system ? How big is the system ? (number of lines, users, etc.) Just family and tinkering. I had load tested it with SIPp simulating 10 concurrent calls, sat at a steady 93% cpu. I'd say the E3000 would suffice for home use, 2-3 concurrent users. We stream off the NAS through it also and don't even notice during a call. Sounds perfect. How does a wireless router handle voicemail ? Ie no hard drive, so where does it store it ? NAS ? It records to memory (flash) and sends a wav to email. Fax works the same way. :drool: So you can receive faxes that arrive at home on the road then, as an email attachment, right ? Without having to find a fax machine while traveling and coordinating with the sender ? If we wanted faxes received on the fax machine, can asterisk recognize a fax tone and route the call to the fax machine ? Will the fax machine send via an analog connection to the asterisk system ? Or does it need its own line directly out ? What information resources did you use when setting up your system ? Thanks again for the replies. LG -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: http://www.asterisk.org/hello asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Looking for ideas for nice **Asterisk** home phone system
If this is what you need (fax/SIP/SIP Trunking/Vmail to email/Fax to email) and are willing to run on real hardware, or a virtual machine (not an embedded device), look in to PBX in a Flash along with IncrediblePBX/IncredibleFAX addon. This setup will do everything you want, and then some. It may take you a few weeks to setup and tweak to your liking, but once it's up and running, you won't look back. I cut my phone bill from $58/mnth for POTS with a few services to ~$4/mnth with everything under the sun. That savings has enabled me to buy SIP hardphones for around the house, and of course every laptop, netbook smartphone has a client installed. We both have DISA enabled and our access line programmed as a MY5 number, and we route all of our calls through the server at home. My cell bill went from ~$100/mnth to $48.50. Don't skimp on the hardware, use a pc (any old P4 with 512-1G of RAM will do), embedded devices just don't have the horsepower to make a featured Asterisk server shine. From: Linuxguy123 Sent: Wed 8/24/2011 10:49 AM To: skchopper...@gmail.com; Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] Looking for ideas for nice **Asterisk** home phone system On Tue, 2011-08-23 at 21:36 -0700, Skyler wrote: Hi, On Tue, 2011-08-23 at 21:50 -0600, Linuxguy123 wrote: So you have asterisk loaded on a wireless router ? Linksys 54G by chance ? Yes, Asterisk at the moment. Cisco E3000. 54G is too small for asterisk, not enough flash/cpu. OK. I'm a 54G guy. I just bought a E4200 the other day for our media network. Which VOIP phones are you using ? Which ATA are you using ? I have Aastra 6731i, PAP2T, HT286 a Polycom and an Snom unit. Linphone, Bria, jitsi work as well for PC/Mac/iPhone. Any voip device/software would work. OK. The wife uses call-through on her Blackberry with MY10, she adds contacts with a pause after her voxnumber; like 1NPANXX,personsnumber so it dials in then dials out on the trunk. We have unlimited 60 countries so we can literally call anywhere, from anywhere and never have to think about it. Our plans have free local calling and 20 cents a minute for long distance. I spent $80 last week on long distance that would have been $12 on our home plan. To say nothing of all the other benefits. Took me 6 months here-and-there to get it this far. Well worth it though as we save about $180/month in cell phone bills now between us. Right. Are you using a POTS connection or SIP provider for your phone system ? How big is the system ? (number of lines, users, etc.) Just family and tinkering. I had load tested it with SIPp simulating 10 concurrent calls, sat at a steady 93% cpu. I'd say the E3000 would suffice for home use, 2-3 concurrent users. We stream off the NAS through it also and don't even notice during a call. Sounds perfect. How does a wireless router handle voicemail ? Ie no hard drive, so where does it store it ? NAS ? It records to memory (flash) and sends a wav to email. Fax works the same way. :drool: So you can receive faxes that arrive at home on the road then, as an email attachment, right ? Without having to find a fax machine while traveling and coordinating with the sender ? If we wanted faxes received on the fax machine, can asterisk recognize a fax tone and route the call to the fax machine ? Will the fax machine send via an analog connection to the asterisk system ? Or does it need its own line directly out ? What information resources did you use when setting up your system ? Thanks again for the replies. LG -- _ -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: http://www.asterisk.org/hello asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Looking for ideas for nice **Asterisk** home phone system
On Wed, 2011-08-24 at 08:49 -0600, Linuxguy123 wrote: OK. I'm a 54G guy. I just bought a E4200 the other day for our media network. Nice. The E4200 is what I wanted but it wasn't in stock anywhere when I was on the hunt. I just recently bought an Asus RT-N16 ... my boss is hooked now so I will probably be working on this at work and do this one next ;) Are you using a POTS connection or SIP provider for your phone system ? SIP only. :drool: So you can receive faxes that arrive at home on the road then, as an email attachment, right ? Without having to find a fax machine while traveling and coordinating with the sender ? Yep, arrives as a pdf in my email. If we wanted faxes received on the fax machine, can asterisk recognize a fax tone and route the call to the fax machine ? IIR asterisk can detect fax with nvfax or something like that, I didn't bother and went with a dedicated voxnumber. Will the fax machine send via an analog connection to the asterisk system ? Or does it need its own line directly out ? Fax is receive only. I don't have a physical fax machine, I scan/email. You could easily use a PAP2 or HT286 for the fax machine and register it to the router. What information resources did you use when setting up your system ? Google when I was stuck. I didn't document the sites as I actually couldn't make this work using DD-WRT or Tomato without having to install everything on the USB key. I didn't like this so kept going as I'm familiar with cross-compiling, linux etc. and ended up with my own firmware. You can go with the DD-WRT or Tomato + asterisk-on-usb setup if you like, it does work but not what I wanted. I can tell you to focus on compiling the firmware, getting that to work 100% re-flashing and you're good to go. Then work on the asterisk install. The Asterisk install is minimal (ie: only loads what modules are needed and no more) all extra files etc are removed for space. There's no gui, so I hope you are ok with SSH for config changes. The callback/call-through/fax2email are agi's, those took the longest to get working as I knew nothing about this. Thanks again for the replies. LG -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: http://www.asterisk.org/hello asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Looking for ideas for nice **Asterisk** home phone system
The original title and subsequent questions were a clear sign to stay away from a pointless thread. Going one direction and then completely changing deserves a new thread. I learned a long time ago not to answer questions from people that have put in zero effort but fell for it, and fell for a really bad set up of questions. Thread subject, Looking for ideas for nice **Asterisk** home phone system Actual subject?!?! On Wed, Aug 24, 2011 at 3:15 AM, Per Jessen p...@computer.org wrote: Steve Totaro wrote: On Wed, Aug 24, 2011 at 2:42 AM, Per Jessen p...@computer.org wrote: Linuxguy123 wrote: My original post didn't mention it, but I would like my home system to be Asterisk based. Has anyone figured out how to minimize cell charges when on the road via making calls via the home phone system ? Yep, look up DISA: http://www.voip-info.org/wiki/view/Asterisk+cmd+DISA /Per Jessen, Zürich -- Just curious how DISA would help with cell phone usage charges. Assuming multiple mobiles (e.g. household or office), a typical setup around here (Switzerland) is that you can call freely within a group of numbers, often including one or two fixnet numbers. But at least here, if you are on a per minute plan, how would DISA Where is here? Not relevant but currently in the U.S. for now. Per minute plan was the relevant bit. help? Obviously, different countries and carriers do things differently, but I don't pay for anything extra, no roaming, nothing. Did you mean to say you don't pay for roaming either?? Wow. I could do with a subscription like that. (here roaming means using your phone in another country). Oh, yes, I meant roaming between carriers or off-net in the States. I have over a dozen or more SIMs from various countries/carriers, inbound is free in quite a few of the countries, or at least providers I have SIMs for. Just use a SIP client on your phone. Many providers have multiple failover paths for inbound calls. This thread morphed from a nice home phone system into something completely different. Probably should never have fallen for such wide open and sill question. For my situation, DISA is pointless except for road warriors who call all over the world, from anywhere, they can call into the corp system, get dialtone and skip the whole process of expense reports for work related calls. It makes things less complex, not more. Using DISA also means getting a corp caller id, not a mobile. Yes, spoofing provides that. Maybe if you explain your situation and how your plan works, but for me, personally, DISA would be a an added cost and complication. The only purpose I can think of for myself could be accomplished by spoofing caller id. How is that done from a mobile? Sofar that has been my main reason for using DISA - cost is not a real issue. SIP client. Spoof card, yes it is DISA, but you don't have to do anything but use the card. /Per Jessen, Zürich -- http://www.spamchek.com/ - your spam is our business. -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: http://www.asterisk.org/hello asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: http://www.asterisk.org/hello asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Looking for ideas for nice **Asterisk** home phone system
On Wed, Aug 24, 2011 at 3:39 AM, Per Jessen p...@computer.org wrote: Per Jessen wrote: help? Obviously, different countries and carriers do things differently, but I don't pay for anything extra, no roaming, nothing. Did you mean to say you don't pay for roaming either?? Wow. I could do with a subscription like that. (here roaming means using your phone in another country). I guess theoretically roaming is using a GSM network other than your home network, but in Europe that = roaming internationally, which is typically very pricey. /Per Jessen, Zürich RGR that, but cells with SIP mitigate all of that. Also, multiple SIMs are another solution that I use. It is extremely rare, even in the worst countries that I cannot get WiFi. Actually the worst countries have the benefit of starting from scratch. I was the original guy to help assess how to rebuild the infrastructure in Liberia, Sierra Leone, and Guinea for the USAID WARP project in the Manu River area of Africa in 2004 for USAID. All the copper was gone to make pots and pans. Wifi, VSAT and if lucky, a some fiber to Senegal, although Sonatel had a monopoly on all of that in Senegal. SIP GSM works great over VSAT with the proper tweaking. I had great calls from an FOB in a war zone using SIP and GSM over VSAT, G729 was the worst. VSAT is inherently lossy, jittery, and tons of dropped packets. Perfect clarity and security was achieved using Vyatta, OpenVPN and QoS and rate limiting. QoS is done by by the port, so OpenVPN turned SIP into what IAX was designed for, VoIP over one port. Once callers get used to the lag, they stop talking on top of each other. 700ms ping times are pretty high. There are plenty of GSM or SIM boards to accommodate physical lines. That is how most of the NGOs I worked with setup their phone systems with the lack of SIP. A 16 or less card to hold SIMs in place of E1s, VSAT, or any copper. Check out chan_mobile too. One of the greatest Asterisk Apps. Besides allowing your bluetooth phone to become an extension as well as a the equivalent of an inbound and outbound trunk (depending on your needs), you can use it to send SMS and data if you have those features on your phone. The phone is seen as a GSM modem over the Bluetooth link. I don't use Asterisk's SMS apps, just like I don't use Asterisk's FAX app. For fax, I use Hylafax and for text, I use Kannel. These are WAY more powerful than Asterisk apps. With Kannel, I used the Bluetooth GSM modem to send SMS from my cell. Kannel is awesome as is HylaFAX I used the Asteirsk System() app to call lynx with a special URL. The URL contains all the authentication, recipient, and SMS body. Calling that URL via System(), as I said, I like lynx, causes an SMS to be sent. Kannel is extremely customizable. I once had ten cell phones for for SMS modems. My findings with t-mobile were that each phone could send an SMS once a second. With ten, using chan_bluetooth, I could send ten SMS per second using ten phones. Kannel is very well developed. Chan_mobile is incredible. The same is true with HylaFAX. Thanks, Steve T -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: http://www.asterisk.org/hello asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Looking for ideas for nice **Asterisk** home phone system
VoIP mostly aside, a couple more thoughts. I am not sure I understand your reasoning for DISA or how it is cheaper. You can buy a card that accepts SIMs as FXO and FXS. For your reasoning, a card of such nature is required. Populate it with different SIMs or whatever that are in calling groups or whatever you were trying to say. Just use callback back and some logic to reduce your costs. Call back will allow you to use the corp identity, and LCR will cut costs over DISA. The system calls you back after you make a call. Then the call is placed. There is a very brief outbound cell phone call, followed by a an inbound call from the server that you initiated with call back. Inbound to a cell is generally less expensive that oubound on a cell, sometimes completely free. Corp identity shows just fine. Thanks, Steve Totaro On Wed, Aug 24, 2011 at 3:15 AM, Per Jessen p...@computer.org wrote: Steve Totaro wrote: On Wed, Aug 24, 2011 at 2:42 AM, Per Jessen p...@computer.org wrote: Linuxguy123 wrote: My original post didn't mention it, but I would like my home system to be Asterisk based. Has anyone figured out how to minimize cell charges when on the road via making calls via the home phone system ? Yep, look up DISA: http://www.voip-info.org/wiki/view/Asterisk+cmd+DISA /Per Jessen, Zürich -- Just curious how DISA would help with cell phone usage charges. Assuming multiple mobiles (e.g. household or office), a typical setup around here (Switzerland) is that you can call freely within a group of numbers, often including one or two fixnet numbers. But at least here, if you are on a per minute plan, how would DISA Where is here? help? Obviously, different countries and carriers do things differently, but I don't pay for anything extra, no roaming, nothing. Did you mean to say you don't pay for roaming either?? Wow. I could do with a subscription like that. (here roaming means using your phone in another country). For my situation, DISA is pointless except for road warriors who call all over the world, from anywhere, they can call into the corp system, get dialtone and skip the whole process of expense reports for work related calls. It makes things less complex, not more. Using DISA also means getting a corp caller id, not a mobile. Maybe if you explain your situation and how your plan works, but for me, personally, DISA would be a an added cost and complication. The only purpose I can think of for myself could be accomplished by spoofing caller id. How is that done from a mobile? Sofar that has been my main reason for using DISA - cost is not a real issue. /Per Jessen, Zürich -- http://www.spamchek.com/ - your spam is our business. -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: http://www.asterisk.org/hello asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: http://www.asterisk.org/hello asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Looking for ideas for nice **Asterisk** home phone system
My original post didn't mention it, but I would like my home system to be Asterisk based. Has anyone figured out how to minimize cell charges when on the road via making calls via the home phone system ? Does anyone have their cell phone forwarded to their home phone system and have it do their messaging ? Is anyone using Google Phone capabilities in conjunction with Asterisk ? Thanks ! On Mon, 2011-08-22 at 14:11 -0600, Linuxguy123 wrote: I'm looking for ideas for building a innovative, powerful home phone system. Something that does voicemail well, integrates cell phones into the house system, etc. I know there are a lot of details that need to be discussed, but lets leave it at that for now. What is everyone doing ? Thanks ! -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: http://www.asterisk.org/hello asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Looking for ideas for nice **Asterisk** home phone system
On Tue, 23 Aug 2011, Linuxguy123 wrote: Has anyone figured out how to minimize cell charges when on the road via making calls via the home phone system ? Does anyone have their cell phone forwarded to their home phone system and have it do their messaging ? Is anyone using Google Phone capabilities in conjunction with Asterisk ? Invest a couple of days reading http://nerdvittles.com/ -- Thanks in advance, - Steve Edwards sedwa...@sedwards.com Voice: +1-760-468-3867 PST Newline Fax: +1-760-731-3000 -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: http://www.asterisk.org/hello asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Looking for ideas for nice **Asterisk** home phone system
I have my wireless router working as a proxy/asterisk system. Its not 100% done yet, config related stuff still lingering, works not so bad so far. I register voip phones or ata's locally and SIP trunk for my Voxnumber(s), also for inbound/outbound. It does callback call-through for mobile, also SIP soft phone ability with local wifi or remote GPRS sip connection for mobile. voicemail, voicemail-to-email, fax2email are working but needs more testing. Of course its still my wifi-N router for devices and PC's as well. is this the kind of thing you were thinking of? On Tue, 2011-08-23 at 17:04 -0600, Linuxguy123 wrote: My original post didn't mention it, but I would like my home system to be Asterisk based. Has anyone figured out how to minimize cell charges when on the road via making calls via the home phone system ? Does anyone have their cell phone forwarded to their home phone system and have it do their messaging ? Is anyone using Google Phone capabilities in conjunction with Asterisk ? Thanks ! On Mon, 2011-08-22 at 14:11 -0600, Linuxguy123 wrote: I'm looking for ideas for building a innovative, powerful home phone system. Something that does voicemail well, integrates cell phones into the house system, etc. I know there are a lot of details that need to be discussed, but lets leave it at that for now. What is everyone doing ? Thanks ! -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: http://www.asterisk.org/hello asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: http://www.asterisk.org/hello asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Looking for ideas for nice **Asterisk** home phone system
Linuxguy123 wrote: My original post didn't mention it, but I would like my home system to be Asterisk based. So you really aren't looking for a nice home phone system, as stated in your original post. If you want to learn and have a test bed and you live alone, then set yourself up with a system that is based on Asterisk, and have at it. Learn, play, fail then succeed, partially, then progress. Keep in mind that you will probably spend more in hardware, and if you have other household members they will not be happy with you messing around with their telephones.If you have little or no experience in telephony you will have a more difficult time, and may create a system that is more difficult for many users. Asterisk doesn't yet do a really good job of recreating the user interface of many modern hybrid key/pbx systems You need to start by reading asterisk, the future of telephony A rather presumptuous title, but a good reference none the less. If you search the recent archives of this list, you will see the trials and failures of Asterisk and Google If this is to be used by you while you attempt to make a living on your own, I would say to you that is most unwise. Good luck and revisit when you have something up and working and have some serious questions John Novack Has anyone figured out how to minimize cell charges when on the road via making calls via the home phone system ? Does anyone have their cell phone forwarded to their home phone system and have it do their messaging ? Is anyone using Google Phone capabilities in conjunction with Asterisk ? Thanks ! On Mon, 2011-08-22 at 14:11 -0600, Linuxguy123 wrote: I'm looking for ideas for building a innovative, powerful home phone system. Something that does voicemail well, integrates cell phones into the house system, etc. I know there are a lot of details that need to be discussed, but lets leave it at that for now. What is everyone doing ? Thanks ! -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: http://www.asterisk.org/hello asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users -- Dog is my Co-pilot -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: http://www.asterisk.org/hello asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Looking for ideas for nice **Asterisk** home phone system
On Tue, 2011-08-23 at 16:29 -0700, Skyler wrote: I have my wireless router working as a proxy/asterisk system. Its not 100% done yet, config related stuff still lingering, works not so bad so far. I register voip phones or ata's locally and SIP trunk for my Voxnumber(s), also for inbound/outbound. It does callback call-through for mobile, also SIP soft phone ability with local wifi or remote GPRS sip connection for mobile. voicemail, voicemail-to-email, fax2email are working but needs more testing. Of course its still my wifi-N router for devices and PC's as well. is this the kind of thing you were thinking of? That sounds exactly like what I am looking for. So you have asterisk loaded on a wireless router ? Linksys 54G by chance ? Which VOIP phones are you using ? Which ATA are you using ? How big is the system ? (number of lines, users, etc.) How does a wireless router handle voicemail ? Ie no hard drive, so where does it store it ? NAS ? Thanks for the reply, I really appreciate it. -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: http://www.asterisk.org/hello asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Looking for ideas for nice **Asterisk** home phone system
Hi, On Tue, 2011-08-23 at 21:50 -0600, Linuxguy123 wrote: So you have asterisk loaded on a wireless router ? Linksys 54G by chance ? Yes, Asterisk at the moment. Cisco E3000. 54G is too small for asterisk, not enough flash/cpu. Which VOIP phones are you using ? Which ATA are you using ? I have Aastra 6731i, PAP2T, HT286 a Polycom and an Snom unit. Linphone, Bria, jitsi work as well for PC/Mac/iPhone. Any voip device/software would work. The wife uses call-through on her Blackberry with MY10, she adds contacts with a pause after her voxnumber; like 1NPANXX,personsnumber so it dials in then dials out on the trunk. We have unlimited 60 countries so we can literally call anywhere, from anywhere and never have to think about it. Took me 6 months here-and-there to get it this far. Well worth it though as we save about $180/month in cell phone bills now between us. How big is the system ? (number of lines, users, etc.) Just family and tinkering. I had load tested it with SIPp simulating 10 concurrent calls, sat at a steady 93% cpu. I'd say the E3000 would suffice for home use, 2-3 concurrent users. We stream off the NAS through it also and don't even notice during a call. How does a wireless router handle voicemail ? Ie no hard drive, so where does it store it ? NAS ? It records to memory (flash) and sends a wav to email. Fax works the same way. Storage can be on a USB key, it works but I don't use it that way. Thanks for the reply, I really appreciate it. NP. S. -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: http://www.asterisk.org/hello asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
