Re: [asterisk-users] MWI from Asterisk to Meridian

2006-08-05 Thread kritikus Araklidas

Hi.

Tks.

What it is TAPI license and how much we have to pay for that?

Cris.



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Date: Fri, 4 Aug 2006 09:34:55 +0800

If it's control by serial port, you need TAPI license, and need some
investigation period to integrate with Nortel system. ( you have to pay for
the license, if your system can do so. )



Cheers.





Andrew:



The key here is try to create a way to integrate Asterisk Voicemail with

existing Meridian PBX and send the MWI to M2616.

I'm investigating the propietary protocol used by Nortel in the 
integration



between Octel-Dialogic and Meridian for MWI. I believe is good idea to

create an appl (and execute that appl in voicemail.conf like external

application) for connect to the Meridian console port (Serial interface)
and

send the command to the end M2616.



So, if you have some other idea is very welcome.



Cheers.









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Re: [asterisk-users] MWI from Asterisk to Meridian

2006-08-03 Thread Leo Ann Boon

Andrew Kohlsmith wrote:
Aside from using a Norstar ATA connected to an FXS port on Asterisk and 
executing a hookflash *1, no.  There isn't a really good way to do it, as 
that is part of what keeps you hooked into their proprietary crap.


It's the same as trying to tie in SIP phones through Asterisk to a Norstar 
system.  I have it done through a PRI but even then Norstar sees the phones 
as external destinations, so I can't pick up Norstar parked calls and can't 
transfer calls over.
  

Andrew,
Is the Norstar VM integration the same as that the Meridian-1? I 
remember VM boxes like Octel use a Dialogic card that emulates a bunch 
of Nortel 2616 phones to send the MWI.


Cisco Unity also does it in a similar manner except they need to use 
external handset emulators like PBXLink.


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Re: [asterisk-users] MWI from Asterisk to Meridian

2006-08-03 Thread kritikus Araklidas

Andrew:

The key here is try to create a way to integrate Asterisk Voicemail with 
existing Meridian PBX and send the MWI to M2616.
I'm investigating the propietary protocol used by Nortel in the integration 
between Octel-Dialogic and Meridian for MWI. I believe is good idea to 
create an appl (and execute that appl in voicemail.conf like external 
application) for connect to the Meridian console port (Serial interface) and 
send the command to the end M2616.


So, if you have some other idea is very welcome.

Cheers.

Chris.



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Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] MWI from Asterisk to Meridian
Date: Thu, 03 Aug 2006 18:00:56 +0800

Andrew Kohlsmith wrote:
Aside from using a Norstar ATA connected to an FXS port on Asterisk and 
executing a hookflash *1, no.  There isn't a really good way to do it, as 
that is part of what keeps you hooked into their proprietary crap.


It's the same as trying to tie in SIP phones through Asterisk to a Norstar 
system.  I have it done through a PRI but even then Norstar sees the 
phones as external destinations, so I can't pick up Norstar parked calls 
and can't transfer calls over.



Andrew,
Is the Norstar VM integration the same as that the Meridian-1? I remember 
VM boxes like Octel use a Dialogic card that emulates a bunch of Nortel 
2616 phones to send the MWI.


Cisco Unity also does it in a similar manner except they need to use 
external handset emulators like PBXLink.


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Re: [asterisk-users] MWI from Asterisk to Meridian

2006-08-03 Thread \(AstATN\)








If its control by
serial port, you need TAPI license, and need some investigation period to
integrate with Nortel system. ( you have to pay for the license, if your system
can do so. )



Cheers.





Andrew:



The key here is try to
create a way to integrate Asterisk Voicemail with 

existing Meridian PBX
and send the MWI to M2616.

I'm investigating the
propietary protocol used by Nortel in the integration 

between Octel-Dialogic
and Meridian
for MWI. I believe is good idea to 

create an appl (and
execute that appl in voicemail.conf like external 

application) for connect
to the Meridian console port (Serial
interface) and 

send the command to the
end M2616.



So, if you have some
other idea is very welcome.



Cheers.










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Re: [asterisk-users] MWI from Asterisk to Meridian

2006-08-01 Thread Andrew Kohlsmith
On Monday 31 July 2006 16:32, kritikus Araklidas wrote:
 Anyone know some idea if the Asterisk voicemail (WMI) can send the messages
 to meridian for activate the light on meridian digital phones for voicemail
 notification

Aside from using a Norstar ATA connected to an FXS port on Asterisk and 
executing a hookflash *1, no.  There isn't a really good way to do it, as 
that is part of what keeps you hooked into their proprietary crap.

It's the same as trying to tie in SIP phones through Asterisk to a Norstar 
system.  I have it done through a PRI but even then Norstar sees the phones 
as external destinations, so I can't pick up Norstar parked calls and can't 
transfer calls over.

-A.
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Re: [asterisk-users] MWI from Asterisk to Meridian

2006-08-01 Thread Andrew Kohlsmith
Please keep responses to the list, so this can help everyone.

On Tuesday 01 August 2006 09:26, you wrote:
 Thak you for you response. My interconection between Asterisk (Voicemail)
 and my meridian is througth PRI T1, so the only stuff that i can't activate
 is the light in the meridian digital phones, i understand the asterisk see
 those phones like a external devices, but i don't know is somebody create o
 modify the SIP MWI and generate TDM messages to meridian.

This isn't about modifying Asterisk to work with the Meridian.  This is about 
the Meridian simply having no way to accept that information from an external 
trunk.  There are VM message centers but they are extraordinarily limited and 
you can't give a unique one to every user, or even to a group of users.  
They're line-based.  Similarly, you can buy an expensive NAPN or MCDN license 
which will allow the Norstar to see a PRI as an internal trunk line, but now 
you are running an undocumented and proprietary PRI signaling protocol called 
SL-1.  It's what Norstar systems use to communicate with each other (imagine 
two Norstar systems connected together over a leased T1).  We have no 
documentation on it, and Nortel is very likely unwilling to give us the 
information.

So, as I said, you are stuck using a Nortel ATA and an FXS port on Asterisk 
and using a hookflash *1 sequence to toggle it.  Unfortunately the VM 
callback # will be the ATA's DN, so only one person at a time can access 
voicemail.

I spent some time digging into this last year, but came up without an 
acceptable solution.  I may be forgetting or misremembering some of the 
details but the end result is the same: you can hack something into it but 
it's a shitty solution.

-A.
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Re: [asterisk-users] MWI from Asterisk to Meridian

2006-08-01 Thread Johann Steinwendtner
May be you can build an application which controls the background 
terminal of the Meridian. (This would be a serial connection to the M1)

This application sends background commands like: se mw 3000.
This could be a try.

Best regards

Hans

Andrew Kohlsmith schrieb:

Please keep responses to the list, so this can help everyone.

On Tuesday 01 August 2006 09:26, you wrote:


Thak you for you response. My interconection between Asterisk (Voicemail)
and my meridian is througth PRI T1, so the only stuff that i can't activate
is the light in the meridian digital phones, i understand the asterisk see
those phones like a external devices, but i don't know is somebody create o
modify the SIP MWI and generate TDM messages to meridian.



This isn't about modifying Asterisk to work with the Meridian.  This is about 
the Meridian simply having no way to accept that information from an external 
trunk.  There are VM message centers but they are extraordinarily limited and 
you can't give a unique one to every user, or even to a group of users.  
They're line-based.  Similarly, you can buy an expensive NAPN or MCDN license 
which will allow the Norstar to see a PRI as an internal trunk line, but now 
you are running an undocumented and proprietary PRI signaling protocol called 
SL-1.  It's what Norstar systems use to communicate with each other (imagine 
two Norstar systems connected together over a leased T1).  We have no 
documentation on it, and Nortel is very likely unwilling to give us the 
information.


So, as I said, you are stuck using a Nortel ATA and an FXS port on Asterisk 
and using a hookflash *1 sequence to toggle it.  Unfortunately the VM 
callback # will be the ATA's DN, so only one person at a time can access 
voicemail.


I spent some time digging into this last year, but came up without an 
acceptable solution.  I may be forgetting or misremembering some of the 
details but the end result is the same: you can hack something into it but 
it's a shitty solution.


-A.
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Re: [asterisk-users] MWI from Asterisk to Meridian

2006-08-01 Thread kritikus Araklidas
Yeah is true.but we have to sincronize this console command with 
Asterisk SIP MWI


Regards.

Cris.



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Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] MWI from Asterisk to Meridian
Date: Tue, 01 Aug 2006 17:06:41 +0200

May be you can build an application which controls the background terminal 
of the Meridian. (This would be a serial connection to the M1)

This application sends background commands like: se mw 3000.
This could be a try.

Best regards

Hans

Andrew Kohlsmith schrieb:

Please keep responses to the list, so this can help everyone.

On Tuesday 01 August 2006 09:26, you wrote:


Thak you for you response. My interconection between Asterisk (Voicemail)
and my meridian is througth PRI T1, so the only stuff that i can't 
activate
is the light in the meridian digital phones, i understand the asterisk 
see
those phones like a external devices, but i don't know is somebody create 
o

modify the SIP MWI and generate TDM messages to meridian.



This isn't about modifying Asterisk to work with the Meridian.  This is 
about the Meridian simply having no way to accept that information from an 
external trunk.  There are VM message centers but they are extraordinarily 
limited and you can't give a unique one to every user, or even to a group 
of users.  They're line-based.  Similarly, you can buy an expensive NAPN 
or MCDN license which will allow the Norstar to see a PRI as an internal 
trunk line, but now you are running an undocumented and proprietary PRI 
signaling protocol called SL-1.  It's what Norstar systems use to 
communicate with each other (imagine two Norstar systems connected 
together over a leased T1).  We have no documentation on it, and Nortel is 
very likely unwilling to give us the information.


So, as I said, you are stuck using a Nortel ATA and an FXS port on 
Asterisk and using a hookflash *1 sequence to toggle it.  Unfortunately 
the VM callback # will be the ATA's DN, so only one person at a time can 
access voicemail.


I spent some time digging into this last year, but came up without an 
acceptable solution.  I may be forgetting or misremembering some of the 
details but the end result is the same: you can hack something into it but 
it's a shitty solution.


-A.
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Re: [asterisk-users] MWI from Asterisk to Meridian

2006-08-01 Thread Johann Steinwendtner

From voicemail.conf:

; If you need to have an external program, i.e. /usr/bin/myapp
; called when a voicemail is left, delivered, or your voicemailbox
; is checked, uncomment this:
;externnotify=/usr/bin/myapp

Maybe this approach can send the commands to the M1.

Best regards

Hans

kritikus Araklidas schrieb:
Yeah is true.but we have to sincronize this console command with 
Asterisk SIP MWI


Regards.

Cris.



From: Johann Steinwendtner [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Discussionasterisk-users@lists.digium.com

Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] MWI from Asterisk to Meridian
Date: Tue, 01 Aug 2006 17:06:41 +0200

May be you can build an application which controls the background 
terminal of the Meridian. (This would be a serial connection to the M1)

This application sends background commands like: se mw 3000.
This could be a try.

Best regards

Hans

Andrew Kohlsmith schrieb:


Please keep responses to the list, so this can help everyone.

On Tuesday 01 August 2006 09:26, you wrote:

Thak you for you response. My interconection between Asterisk 
(Voicemail)
and my meridian is througth PRI T1, so the only stuff that i can't 
activate
is the light in the meridian digital phones, i understand the 
asterisk see
those phones like a external devices, but i don't know is somebody 
create o

modify the SIP MWI and generate TDM messages to meridian.




This isn't about modifying Asterisk to work with the Meridian.  This 
is about the Meridian simply having no way to accept that information 
from an external trunk.  There are VM message centers but they are 
extraordinarily limited and you can't give a unique one to every 
user, or even to a group of users.  They're line-based.  Similarly, 
you can buy an expensive NAPN or MCDN license which will allow the 
Norstar to see a PRI as an internal trunk line, but now you are 
running an undocumented and proprietary PRI signaling protocol called 
SL-1.  It's what Norstar systems use to communicate with each other 
(imagine two Norstar systems connected together over a leased T1).  
We have no documentation on it, and Nortel is very likely unwilling 
to give us the information.


So, as I said, you are stuck using a Nortel ATA and an FXS port on 
Asterisk and using a hookflash *1 sequence to toggle it.  
Unfortunately the VM callback # will be the ATA's DN, so only one 
person at a time can access voicemail.


I spent some time digging into this last year, but came up without an 
acceptable solution.  I may be forgetting or misremembering some of 
the details but the end result is the same: you can hack something 
into it but it's a shitty solution.


-A.
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Re: [asterisk-users] MWI from Asterisk to Meridian

2006-08-01 Thread C F

How does the Meridian turn on the MWI? does it use simple DTMF?

On 7/31/06, kritikus Araklidas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Hi everyone:

Anyone know some idea if the Asterisk voicemail (WMI) can send the messages
to meridian for activate the light on meridian digital phones for voicemail
notification

Thank

Cris.

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[asterisk-users] MWI from Asterisk to Meridian

2006-07-31 Thread kritikus Araklidas

Hi everyone:

Anyone know some idea if the Asterisk voicemail (WMI) can send the messages 
to meridian for activate the light on meridian digital phones for voicemail 
notification


Thank

Cris.

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