Re: [asterisk-users] MWI working perfectly. Shouldn't it be broken??

2008-08-25 Thread Russell Bryant
Karl Fife wrote:
 Do I understand correctly that we are not talking about redundant MWI
 status traffic here, we're ONLY talking about the notion that asterisk
 ignores MWI subscription status and behaves as if it has 100% MWI
 subscription.  That is unless subscribemwi=yes is in sip.conf.  Is
 that an accurate summary?

Yes.

 And theoretically, if I had thousands of endpoints and I needed 100% mwi
 subscription, there may be some theoretical efficiency to turning off
 all MWI subscriptions in all of the endpoints.  Likewise if only 25% of
 my 'thousands' of endpoints needed any MWI, there would be some
 efficiency in setting subscribemwi=yes, and explicitly subscribing
 only those 25%.  Is that right?

Theoretically, I guess so.  However, keep in mind that this is really 
about dealing with odd specifics of how certain phones behave more than 
anything else.  Some phones won't subscribe but still expect MWI.  Some 
phones may freak out if they receive MWI when they haven't subscribed to it.

 Thanks again for clarifying!  I appreciate it!

You are quite welcome.

-- 
Russell Bryant
Senior Software Engineer
Open Source Team Lead
Digium, Inc.

___
-- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com --

AstriCon 2008 - September 22 - 25 Phoenix, Arizona
Register Now: http://www.astricon.net

asterisk-users mailing list
To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit:
   http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users


[asterisk-users] MWI working perfectly. Shouldn't it be broken??

2008-08-24 Thread Karl Fife
I have a Sipura 962 endpoint on Asterisk 1.4 where the MWI works
perfectly, however my theory is that it should be broken. 

Obviously I'm wrong but Sip show subscriptions does not show the
endpoint subscribing to the MWI status on Asterisk, even though all of
the other endpoints on the system DO subscribe for their respective
mailboxes, including SNOM  Polycom endpoints.  

I'm confused.  Isn't MWI subscription the method by which the device is
setting its MWI?  I know that Asterisk 1.6 is moving toward an
event-driven model, but I'm running 1.4.21.1, so why is this working?  I
know that some smart cookie on this list will know the answer, but
unfortunately I am not said cookie. 

FYI, it's not an issue of the subscription not YET subscribing etc.  If
I were to restart the system and endpoints, all the subs slowly show up
one by one, but the 962 never does -- even after days, weeks, and
months.  Yet the MWI always works perfectly from the get-go. 

Thanks!

-Karl 

___
-- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com --

AstriCon 2008 - September 22 - 25 Phoenix, Arizona
Register Now: http://www.astricon.net

asterisk-users mailing list
To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit:
   http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users


Re: [asterisk-users] MWI working perfectly. Shouldn't it be broken??

2008-08-24 Thread Russell Bryant

On Aug 24, 2008, at 11:29 AM, Karl Fife wrote:
 FYI, it's not an issue of the subscription not YET subscribing etc.   
 If
 I were to restart the system and endpoints, all the subs slowly show  
 up
 one by one, but the 962 never does -- even after days, weeks, and
 months.  Yet the MWI always works perfectly from the get-go.


Asterisk will send the NOTIFY for MWI even if the device doesn't  
subscribe, unless you tell it not to.  This is necessary for some  
phones for MWI to work.  If you _don't_ want Asterisk to do this, you  
can set the subscribemwi=yes option in sip.conf.  This tells  
Asterisk to _only_ send MWI with an associated subscription.

--
Russell Bryant
Senior Software Engineer
Open Source Team Lead
Digium, Inc.





___
-- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com --

AstriCon 2008 - September 22 - 25 Phoenix, Arizona
Register Now: http://www.astricon.net

asterisk-users mailing list
To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit:
   http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users


Re: [asterisk-users] MWI working perfectly. Shouldn't it be broken??

2008-08-24 Thread Karl Fife
I see.  Thanks Russel.

And I now notice that if I explicitly tell my 962 the IP address of the
mail server, it will also subscribe.

Do I understand correctly that we are not talking about redundant MWI
status traffic here, we're ONLY talking about the notion that asterisk
ignores MWI subscription status and behaves as if it has 100% MWI
subscription.  That is unless subscribemwi=yes is in sip.conf.  Is
that an accurate summary?

And theoretically, if I had thousands of endpoints and I needed 100% mwi
subscription, there may be some theoretical efficiency to turning off
all MWI subscriptions in all of the endpoints.  Likewise if only 25% of
my 'thousands' of endpoints needed any MWI, there would be some
efficiency in setting subscribemwi=yes, and explicitly subscribing
only those 25%.  Is that right?

Thanks again for clarifying!  I appreciate it!
-Karl


On Sun, 24 Aug 2008 11:50:19 -0500, Russell Bryant
[EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
 
 On Aug 24, 2008, at 11:29 AM, Karl Fife wrote:
  FYI, it's not an issue of the subscription not YET subscribing etc.   
  If
  I were to restart the system and endpoints, all the subs slowly show  
  up
  one by one, but the 962 never does -- even after days, weeks, and
  months.  Yet the MWI always works perfectly from the get-go.
 
 
 Asterisk will send the NOTIFY for MWI even if the device doesn't  
 subscribe, unless you tell it not to.  This is necessary for some  
 phones for MWI to work.  If you _don't_ want Asterisk to do this, you  
 can set the subscribemwi=yes option in sip.conf.  This tells  
 Asterisk to _only_ send MWI with an associated subscription.
 
 --
 Russell Bryant
 Senior Software Engineer
 Open Source Team Lead
 Digium, Inc.
 
 
 
 
 
 ___
 -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com --
 
 AstriCon 2008 - September 22 - 25 Phoenix, Arizona
 Register Now: http://www.astricon.net
 
 asterisk-users mailing list
 To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit:
http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users

___
-- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com --

AstriCon 2008 - September 22 - 25 Phoenix, Arizona
Register Now: http://www.astricon.net

asterisk-users mailing list
To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit:
   http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users