[asterisk-users] Media Proxy Mode in Asterik: SIP and H.323

2007-07-13 Thread bilal ghayyad
Hi List;

All we know that in voice, there are a type of
communications between endpoints, for example: in some
communications we do a proxy for media and signaling
while other communications we do a proxy for only
signaling.

Where I can determine these things in Asterisk if I am
using SIP and if I am using H.323?

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Re: [asterisk-users] Media Proxy Mode in Asterik: SIP and H.323

2007-07-13 Thread Alex Balashov

Bilal,

Asterisk is an IP PBX and thus a back-to-back user agent;  by default, it 
will proxy media.  The only way to disengage it from the media stream is 
to use signaling protocol-specific mechanisms to coax the endpoints into 
talking to each other directly;  in SIP, this can be done via re-INVITEs 
a la the canreinvite= option for SIP peers in sip.conf.  The H.323 stack 
in Asterisk may or may not have a similar option, and it may or may not be 
compatible with SIP on a signaling level.  That's if you're connecting one 
endpoint that's H.323 and one that's SIP.  I imagine there's probably a 
way to do media stream handoff between two legs that are natively H.323 on 
both ends.  But that's the determinant.

Also, remember that even if you hand off the media, Asterisk still stays
in the signaling path.  This is all the more true if you're using it as
a signaling gateway between heterogenous protocols.

-- Alex

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Re: [asterisk-users] Media Proxy Mode in Asterik: SIP and

2007-07-13 Thread bilal ghayyad
Dear Alex;

Thanks for your kindly reply.

Please explain for me what do u mean exactly in a la
in the following sentence u wrote it below?

 in SIP, this can be done via
 re-INVITEs a la the canreinvite= option for SIP
peers in sip.conf

Another thing, do u mean that it is easier (better) if
we need H.323 endpoint to talk with SIP endpoint then
we use full proxy (signaling + media) so that will
solve miss compatibility issues?

By the way: Asterisk allow H.323 to talk with SIP?

Regards,
---
IP Telephony and Contact Center Engineer
Eng. Bilal Ghayad
Mobile: 00965 9849460


Bilal,

Asterisk is an IP PBX and thus a back-to-back user
agent;  by default,
 it 
will proxy media.  The only way to disengage it from
the media stream
 is 
to use signaling protocol-specific mechanisms to coax
the endpoints
 into 
talking to each other directly;  in SIP, this can be
done via
 re-INVITEs 
a la the canreinvite= option for SIP peers in
sip.conf.  The H.323
 stack 
in Asterisk may or may not have a similar option, and
it may or may not
 be 
compatible with SIP on a signaling level.  That's if
you're connecting
 one 
endpoint that's H.323 and one that's SIP.  I imagine
there's probably a
 
way to do media stream handoff between two legs that
are natively H.323
 on 
both ends.  But that's the determinant.

Also, remember that even if you hand off the media,
Asterisk still
 stays
in the signaling path.  This is all the more true if
you're using it as
a signaling gateway between heterogenous protocols.

-- Alex

--
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Evariste Systems
Web: http://www.evaristesys.com/
Tel: +1-678-954-0670
Direct : +1-678-954-0671



   

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Re: [asterisk-users] Media Proxy Mode in Asterik: SIP and

2007-07-13 Thread Alex Balashov


Bilal,

On Fri, 13 Jul 2007, bilal ghayyad wrote:


Please explain for me what do u mean exactly in a la
in the following sentence u wrote it below?

 in SIP, this can be done via
re-INVITEs a la the canreinvite= option for SIP
peers in sip.conf


  It is an English colloquialism that enjoys wide currency;  stolen
from French, where it means in the manner of or in the style of,
for instance, a la provençale (country style).  So, in this case
I mean that re-INVITEs are accomplished _by way of_ the 'canreinvite'
option.  Despite the nomenclature, 'canreinvite' in sip.conf actually
means not merely CAN attempt to re-INVITE but WILL attempt to
re-INVITE as a point of default behaviour.


Another thing, do u mean that it is easier (better) if
we need H.323 endpoint to talk with SIP endpoint then
we use full proxy (signaling + media) so that will
solve miss compatibility issues?


  Well, an H.323 endpoint cannot speak directly to a SIP endpoint without 
a signaling gateway to convert the messages.  If you are referring purely

to passing RTP media, I suppose it does not matter, if you can broker that
handoff somehow between H.323 and SIP.  I am not sure if Asterisk has this
capability.


By the way: Asterisk allow H.323 to talk with SIP?


  In principle, yes.  Asterisk can act as an H.323 gatekeeper, although
not as an endpoint (which is irrelevant to your purpose anyway).

  By far the easiest and cleanest solution is to run both the signaling
and the media through Asterisk, if you're making a SIP - H.323 call.
This is the approach least likely to cause any compatibility issues
since Asterisk is intermediating in the transaction, and I am not sure
if an alternative is even possible.

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