Re: [asterisk-users] Newbie Polycom: DHCP/boot server supporting 2 models of phones

2008-03-28 Thread Lee, John (Sydney)
 All Polycom phones use the same firmware and bootroms - one reason why
 the sip.ld is so damn large for them.
Thanks Rob.
Alleluia!  Rob, I will take your word for it - it solves all my worries
in deploying different models to the same environment like IP5XX and
IP6XX.



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Re: [asterisk-users] Newbie Polycom: DHCP/boot server supporting 2 models of phones

2008-03-28 Thread Paul Hales

Can't you just use the same bootrom for all your polycom phones?

PaulH


On Fri, 2008-03-28 at 15:38 +1100, Lee, John (Sydney) wrote:
 I have a question about DHCP and boot server supporting more than 1
 model of Polycom phones.
 
 According to Polycom standards, Polycom phone boots up to get a DHCP
 address and at the same time getting a boot server string (with username
 and password) to logon to boot server to download SIP, bootROM and etc.
 
 That is okay if there is only one type of phone (that requires a
 specific SIP and bootROM release).  
 
 What about if the environment has to support two or more models of
 Polycom phones?
 
 On the boot server side, I can define another home directory like
 /home/polycom1 and /home/polycom2 to store different SIP and bootROM
 releases.  However, the issue is how different polycom phone model can
 get a different user account and password to log on to different home
 directories.
 
 I understand the issue here is DHCP and not the boot server but I am a
 bit of a newbie here.  
 
 Can anyone help please?
 
 
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Re: [asterisk-users] Newbie Polycom: DHCP/boot server supporting 2 models of phones

2008-03-28 Thread Steve Johnson
On Fri, Mar 28, 2008 at 12:05 AM, Paul Hales [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  Can't you just use the same bootrom for all your polycom phones?

  PaulH




  On Fri, 2008-03-28 at 15:38 +1100, Lee, John (Sydney) wrote:
   I have a question about DHCP and boot server supporting more than 1
   model of Polycom phones.
  
   According to Polycom standards, Polycom phone boots up to get a DHCP
   address and at the same time getting a boot server string (with username
   and password) to logon to boot server to download SIP, bootROM and etc.
  
   That is okay if there is only one type of phone (that requires a
   specific SIP and bootROM release).
  
   What about if the environment has to support two or more models of
   Polycom phones?
  
   On the boot server side, I can define another home directory like
   /home/polycom1 and /home/polycom2 to store different SIP and bootROM
   releases.  However, the issue is how different polycom phone model can
   get a different user account and password to log on to different home
   directories.
  
   I understand the issue here is DHCP and not the boot server but I am a
   bit of a newbie here.
  
   Can anyone help please?
  

As someone earlier pointed out, different models of polycom phones can be
pointed to the same set of configuration files.  With the standard ISC dhcpd
server, the phones can be told where to look by using a directive like:

option tftp-server-name ftp://polycom:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;

This would require a user account on the ftp server like:

polycom:x:501:501:Polycom Phone
Provisioning:/etc/asterisk/polycom/ftp/:/bin/bash

and the configuration files would be placed in the /etc/asterisk/polycom/ftp/
directory.
So if you wanted to have separate configurations for certain phones (for
upgrade testing, etc., it is easily possible.

SJ

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Re: [asterisk-users] Newbie Polycom: DHCP/boot server supporting 2 models of phones

2008-03-28 Thread Scott Plante
Paul Hales wrote:
 Can't you just use the same bootrom for all your polycom phones?
To elaborate in case it isn't obvious from above: Even if you needed 
different config files or even SIP applications by phone, you don't have 
to go to separate DHCP entries by phone. The MACADDESS.cfg file points 
to everything *except* the bootrom, so as long as you can share the same 
bootrom for all your phones, you can set one particular phone to use the 
new latest-and-greatest SIP application and related config files by just 
changing it's particular MAC.cfg file.


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[asterisk-users] Newbie Polycom: DHCP/boot server supporting 2 models of phones

2008-03-27 Thread Lee, John (Sydney)
I have a question about DHCP and boot server supporting more than 1
model of Polycom phones.

According to Polycom standards, Polycom phone boots up to get a DHCP
address and at the same time getting a boot server string (with username
and password) to logon to boot server to download SIP, bootROM and etc.

That is okay if there is only one type of phone (that requires a
specific SIP and bootROM release).  

What about if the environment has to support two or more models of
Polycom phones?

On the boot server side, I can define another home directory like
/home/polycom1 and /home/polycom2 to store different SIP and bootROM
releases.  However, the issue is how different polycom phone model can
get a different user account and password to log on to different home
directories.

I understand the issue here is DHCP and not the boot server but I am a
bit of a newbie here.  

Can anyone help please?


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Re: [asterisk-users] Newbie Polycom: DHCP/boot server supporting 2 models of phones

2008-03-27 Thread Robert McNaught
For this, I would recommend using a smart DHCP device, which supports
the passing of 'option 66' - for example, the edgemarc series of
routers.

With that, you could pass ftp://user1:[EMAIL PROTECTED] via dhcp
in order to provision the phone, and different credentials if you are
concerned about mixing up bootroms, and application loads.

As far as I am aware ( I think I tried this once) it is not possible
to pass  ftp://username:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/directory1 via option 66.

I am not too sure how much of an issue the versions is is with
polycoms, in their reseller training, they give a list of upgrade
paths, but I am not sure if this affects new versions, which may just
be upgradable out of the box without any clashes

Robert

On Thu, Mar 27, 2008 at 9:38 PM, Lee, John (Sydney)
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I have a question about DHCP and boot server supporting more than 1
  model of Polycom phones.

  According to Polycom standards, Polycom phone boots up to get a DHCP
  address and at the same time getting a boot server string (with username
  and password) to logon to boot server to download SIP, bootROM and etc.

  That is okay if there is only one type of phone (that requires a
  specific SIP and bootROM release).

  What about if the environment has to support two or more models of
  Polycom phones?

  On the boot server side, I can define another home directory like
  /home/polycom1 and /home/polycom2 to store different SIP and bootROM
  releases.  However, the issue is how different polycom phone model can
  get a different user account and password to log on to different home
  directories.

  I understand the issue here is DHCP and not the boot server but I am a
  bit of a newbie here.

  Can anyone help please?


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Re: [asterisk-users] Newbie Polycom: DHCP/boot server supporting 2 models of phones

2008-03-27 Thread Rob Hillis
All Polycom phones use the same firmware and bootroms - one reason why 
the sip.ld is so damn large for them.


Lee, John (Sydney) wrote:
 I have a question about DHCP and boot server supporting more than 1
 model of Polycom phones.

 According to Polycom standards, Polycom phone boots up to get a DHCP
 address and at the same time getting a boot server string (with username
 and password) to logon to boot server to download SIP, bootROM and etc.

 That is okay if there is only one type of phone (that requires a
 specific SIP and bootROM release).  

 What about if the environment has to support two or more models of
 Polycom phones?

 On the boot server side, I can define another home directory like
 /home/polycom1 and /home/polycom2 to store different SIP and bootROM
 releases.  However, the issue is how different polycom phone model can
 get a different user account and password to log on to different home
 directories.

 I understand the issue here is DHCP and not the boot server but I am a
 bit of a newbie here.  

 Can anyone help please?


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