Re: [asterisk-users] Please Advice on Best High traffic fxo gateway/cards

2008-06-18 Thread James Mutuku

Hi,

Probably I did not explain my situation before asking the question.
I have been working with epygi fxo gateways(www.epygi.com) for some 
time. They are 6 port fxo gateways, but they fail(hang) when it comes 
to high traffic on the 6 POTS, resulting to not-so-happy clients. In my 
country, the main telco operator does not follow any standards.  
Different lines(POTs) from the same telco might have different 
disconnect settings*. With the epygi fxo gateways, you can only set a 
system wide disconnect settings, not for individual lines(POTs). What 
happens is when you configure the disconnect settings from one of the 
lines, you get disconnect problems(call never disconnects with time, 
the whole system hangs).


*disconnect settings - (the way I understand the term)frequency values 
that enable an fxo gw to detect the call disconnection from the line(POT).


Steve Totaro wrote:

Some customers are locked into two year contracts.

That was the answer I got when adding four POTS lines to a system with
four BRIs...

Thanks,
Steve Totaro

On Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 1:39 PM, James Mutuku [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  

Michael,

I agree. Here we use e1s(which have even more channels). Some clients
just don't want to change some if their old infrastructure.

Thanks

Michael Graves wrote:


I just hafta ask, why does one face down a requirement for 48 FXOs?

Would it not be more practical to have 2 T-1s dropped into the
location?

Michael

On Mon, 16 Jun 2008 17:35:35 -0400, Steve Totaro wrote:


  

Adit 600 48 FXO.

On Mon, Jun 16, 2008 at 12:11 PM, James Mutuku [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



Steve,
   Thanks for the responses. I am talking of 45 POTS
Thanks

Steve Totaro wrote:

Sorry,

Quantify High Traffic

How many POTS lines are we talking about?

Thanks,
Steve Totaro

On Sun, Jun 15, 2008 at 10:47 AM, Steve Totaro
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


I use Adtran or Adit, I think Rhino has a pretty low priced one but I
have never used so cannot comment.  I can tell you that the Adtran or
Adit is rock solid.

Thanks,
Steve Totaro

On Sun, Jun 15, 2008 at 10:43 AM, James Mutuku [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Please advice on  channel bank
Steve Totaro wrote:


I would suggest a channel bank populated with FXO cards muxing to a T1.

Thanks,
Steve T

On Sun, Jun 15, 2008 at 10:06 AM, James Mutuku [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



Hi,
  I need to get an fxo gateway/card for a high traffic asterisk
installation. Please advice on which gateway/ fxo cards
Thanks



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Re: [asterisk-users] Please Advice on Best High traffic fxo gateway/cards

2008-06-18 Thread Tzafrir Cohen
I'm afraid I don't really follow you:

On Wed, Jun 18, 2008 at 11:45:54AM +0300, James Mutuku wrote:

 They are 6 port fxo gateways, 
 but they fail(hang) when it comes to high traffic on the 6 POTS, 

Could you please give a better definition to high traffic?
Or is it just the issue of not detecting a hangup on the telco side?

 resulting to not-so-happy clients. In my 
 country, the main telco operator does not follow any standards.  
 Different lines(POTs) from the same telco might have different 
 disconnect settings*. 

The same box gets lines from different telco exchanges? Or the same
telco exchange has different settings on different ports?

Is there any sort of disconnect supervision on any of the lines? Which
type?

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Re: [asterisk-users] Please Advice on Best High traffic fxo gateway/cards

2008-06-17 Thread James Mutuku
Michael,

I agree. Here we use e1s(which have even more channels). Some clients 
just don't want to change some if their old infrastructure.

Thanks

Michael Graves wrote:
 I just hafta ask, why does one face down a requirement for 48 FXOs? 

 Would it not be more practical to have 2 T-1s dropped into the
 location?

 Michael

 On Mon, 16 Jun 2008 17:35:35 -0400, Steve Totaro wrote:

   
 Adit 600 48 FXO.

 On Mon, Jun 16, 2008 at 12:11 PM, James Mutuku [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 Steve,
Thanks for the responses. I am talking of 45 POTS
 Thanks

 Steve Totaro wrote:

 Sorry,

 Quantify High Traffic

 How many POTS lines are we talking about?

 Thanks,
 Steve Totaro

 On Sun, Jun 15, 2008 at 10:47 AM, Steve Totaro
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 I use Adtran or Adit, I think Rhino has a pretty low priced one but I
 have never used so cannot comment.  I can tell you that the Adtran or
 Adit is rock solid.

 Thanks,
 Steve Totaro

 On Sun, Jun 15, 2008 at 10:43 AM, James Mutuku [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 Please advice on  channel bank
 Steve Totaro wrote:


 I would suggest a channel bank populated with FXO cards muxing to a T1.

 Thanks,
 Steve T

 On Sun, Jun 15, 2008 at 10:06 AM, James Mutuku [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



 Hi,
   I need to get an fxo gateway/card for a high traffic asterisk
 installation. Please advice on which gateway/ fxo cards
 Thanks



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Re: [asterisk-users] Please Advice on Best High traffic fxo gateway/cards

2008-06-17 Thread Steve Totaro
Some customers are locked into two year contracts.

That was the answer I got when adding four POTS lines to a system with
four BRIs...

Thanks,
Steve Totaro

On Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 1:39 PM, James Mutuku [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Michael,

 I agree. Here we use e1s(which have even more channels). Some clients
 just don't want to change some if their old infrastructure.

 Thanks

 Michael Graves wrote:
 I just hafta ask, why does one face down a requirement for 48 FXOs?

 Would it not be more practical to have 2 T-1s dropped into the
 location?

 Michael

 On Mon, 16 Jun 2008 17:35:35 -0400, Steve Totaro wrote:


 Adit 600 48 FXO.

 On Mon, Jun 16, 2008 at 12:11 PM, James Mutuku [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Steve,
Thanks for the responses. I am talking of 45 POTS
 Thanks

 Steve Totaro wrote:

 Sorry,

 Quantify High Traffic

 How many POTS lines are we talking about?

 Thanks,
 Steve Totaro

 On Sun, Jun 15, 2008 at 10:47 AM, Steve Totaro
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 I use Adtran or Adit, I think Rhino has a pretty low priced one but I
 have never used so cannot comment.  I can tell you that the Adtran or
 Adit is rock solid.

 Thanks,
 Steve Totaro

 On Sun, Jun 15, 2008 at 10:43 AM, James Mutuku [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 Please advice on  channel bank
 Steve Totaro wrote:


 I would suggest a channel bank populated with FXO cards muxing to a T1.

 Thanks,
 Steve T

 On Sun, Jun 15, 2008 at 10:06 AM, James Mutuku [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



 Hi,
   I need to get an fxo gateway/card for a high traffic asterisk
 installation. Please advice on which gateway/ fxo cards
 Thanks



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Re: [asterisk-users] Please Advice on Best High traffic fxo gateway/cards

2008-06-17 Thread Brent Davidson
And there are people like me who still can't get PRI's for less than 
$1100/month.  (Granted, I doubt I'll ever need a pri for the business I 
am with now, but I was with an ISP for a long time that still supported 
dial-up and we had 8 PRI's with a bulk discount that got them for us at 
$1000/PRI/month. ($8000/month total).  Analog lines with incoming 
service only were priced at roughly $15/month.



Steve Totaro wrote:
 Some customers are locked into two year contracts.

 That was the answer I got when adding four POTS lines to a system with
 four BRIs...

 Thanks,
 Steve Totaro

 On Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 1:39 PM, James Mutuku [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   
 Michael,

 I agree. Here we use e1s(which have even more channels). Some clients
 just don't want to change some if their old infrastructure.

 Thanks

 Michael Graves wrote:
 
 I just hafta ask, why does one face down a requirement for 48 FXOs?

 Would it not be more practical to have 2 T-1s dropped into the
 location?

 Michael

 On Mon, 16 Jun 2008 17:35:35 -0400, Steve Totaro wrote:


   
 Adit 600 48 FXO.

 On Mon, Jun 16, 2008 at 12:11 PM, James Mutuku [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 Steve,
Thanks for the responses. I am talking of 45 POTS
 Thanks

 Steve Totaro wrote:

 Sorry,

 Quantify High Traffic

 How many POTS lines are we talking about?

 Thanks,
 Steve Totaro

 On Sun, Jun 15, 2008 at 10:47 AM, Steve Totaro
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 I use Adtran or Adit, I think Rhino has a pretty low priced one but I
 have never used so cannot comment.  I can tell you that the Adtran or
 Adit is rock solid.

 Thanks,
 Steve Totaro

 On Sun, Jun 15, 2008 at 10:43 AM, James Mutuku [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 Please advice on  channel bank
 Steve Totaro wrote:


 I would suggest a channel bank populated with FXO cards muxing to a T1.

 Thanks,
 Steve T

 On Sun, Jun 15, 2008 at 10:06 AM, James Mutuku [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



 Hi,
   I need to get an fxo gateway/card for a high traffic asterisk
 installation. Please advice on which gateway/ fxo cards
 Thanks



   
   


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Re: [asterisk-users] Please Advice on Best High traffic fxo gateway/cards

2008-06-16 Thread James Mutuku
Brian,
 I agree with you. Google has all the answers, but not the 
experience. The reason I use lists is to get opinions 'experienced' 
users. From experience, product manuals say one thing and when the 
rubber meets the road, its a different story.

Thanks though for your kind comments


Brian J. Murrell wrote:
 On Sun, 2008-06-15 at 11:03 -0400, Steve Totaro wrote:
   
 On Sun, Jun 15, 2008 at 10:53 AM, Brian J. Murrell
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 On Sun, 2008-06-15 at 17:43 +0300, James Mutuku wrote:
   
 Please advice on  channel bank
 
 Dude.  There's the cool new website you should check out.  It's
 www.google.com.

 Seriously.  This list is not full of people waiting to do the simplest
 research at your request.  Spend a few minutes and do some self-help
 before coming here asking the simplest, most general questions.  You are
 more likely to get answers to interesting questions rather than
 mundane-google-would-have-told-you-all-you-need-to-know-in-5-minutes
 questions.

 b/
   
 While true to some degree, I assumed he was looking for someone to
 recommend a certain product based on good experiences in the Asterisk
 World.
 

 See, I saw the quotes around channel bank more as the follow question
 what is a channel bank.  Maybe it's a language thing and perhaps the
 OP can take as constructive criticism to be more to one's actual point
 when asking a question.

 If he really did understand what a channel bank is and was looking for
 recommendations, something more direct like Any recommendations on
 which channel bank(s) I should consider using? would have been much
 more fruitful I suspect.

   
 Google may be good for getting information but will turn up a good
 many ads too.  Most of these ads/sites all claim to be the best.  We
 are the leaders of (such and such)
 

 Sure, but all of them will give him a good idea of what one actually is,
 which is really what I suspect the question was.

   
 An obvious pitfall I met was Citel gateways.  Maybe they have improved
 for the Definity line, but going that route a year and a half ago made
 me look very bad.  I wish I had asked on the list and got someone with
 some experience to say, think twice.
 

 Agreed.  I wholeheartedly agree with soliciting for and giving product
 recommendations and experiences, but questions like what is ... most
 likely can almost always be answered from google with a little effort on
 one's own behalf.

 b.

   
 

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Re: [asterisk-users] Please Advice on Best High traffic fxo gateway/cards

2008-06-16 Thread James Mutuku

Steve,
  Thanks for the responses. I am talking of 45 POTS
Thanks

Steve Totaro wrote:

Sorry,

Quantify High Traffic

How many POTS lines are we talking about?

Thanks,
Steve Totaro

On Sun, Jun 15, 2008 at 10:47 AM, Steve Totaro
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  

I use Adtran or Adit, I think Rhino has a pretty low priced one but I
have never used so cannot comment.  I can tell you that the Adtran or
Adit is rock solid.

Thanks,
Steve Totaro

On Sun, Jun 15, 2008 at 10:43 AM, James Mutuku [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Please advice on  channel bank
Steve Totaro wrote:
  

I would suggest a channel bank populated with FXO cards muxing to a T1.

Thanks,
Steve T

On Sun, Jun 15, 2008 at 10:06 AM, James Mutuku [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



Hi,
  I need to get an fxo gateway/card for a high traffic asterisk
installation. Please advice on which gateway/ fxo cards
Thanks

  


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Re: [asterisk-users] Please Advice on Best High traffic fxo gateway/cards

2008-06-16 Thread Steve Totaro
Adit 600 48 FXO.

On Mon, Jun 16, 2008 at 12:11 PM, James Mutuku [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Steve,
Thanks for the responses. I am talking of 45 POTS
 Thanks

 Steve Totaro wrote:

 Sorry,

 Quantify High Traffic

 How many POTS lines are we talking about?

 Thanks,
 Steve Totaro

 On Sun, Jun 15, 2008 at 10:47 AM, Steve Totaro
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 I use Adtran or Adit, I think Rhino has a pretty low priced one but I
 have never used so cannot comment.  I can tell you that the Adtran or
 Adit is rock solid.

 Thanks,
 Steve Totaro

 On Sun, Jun 15, 2008 at 10:43 AM, James Mutuku [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 Please advice on  channel bank
 Steve Totaro wrote:


 I would suggest a channel bank populated with FXO cards muxing to a T1.

 Thanks,
 Steve T

 On Sun, Jun 15, 2008 at 10:06 AM, James Mutuku [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



 Hi,
   I need to get an fxo gateway/card for a high traffic asterisk
 installation. Please advice on which gateway/ fxo cards
 Thanks



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Re: [asterisk-users] Please Advice on Best High traffic fxo gateway/cards

2008-06-16 Thread Michael Graves
I just hafta ask, why does one face down a requirement for 48 FXOs? 

Would it not be more practical to have 2 T-1s dropped into the
location?

Michael

On Mon, 16 Jun 2008 17:35:35 -0400, Steve Totaro wrote:

Adit 600 48 FXO.

On Mon, Jun 16, 2008 at 12:11 PM, James Mutuku [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Steve,
Thanks for the responses. I am talking of 45 POTS
 Thanks

 Steve Totaro wrote:

 Sorry,

 Quantify High Traffic

 How many POTS lines are we talking about?

 Thanks,
 Steve Totaro

 On Sun, Jun 15, 2008 at 10:47 AM, Steve Totaro
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 I use Adtran or Adit, I think Rhino has a pretty low priced one but I
 have never used so cannot comment.  I can tell you that the Adtran or
 Adit is rock solid.

 Thanks,
 Steve Totaro

 On Sun, Jun 15, 2008 at 10:43 AM, James Mutuku [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 Please advice on  channel bank
 Steve Totaro wrote:


 I would suggest a channel bank populated with FXO cards muxing to a T1.

 Thanks,
 Steve T

 On Sun, Jun 15, 2008 at 10:06 AM, James Mutuku [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



 Hi,
   I need to get an fxo gateway/card for a high traffic asterisk
 installation. Please advice on which gateway/ fxo cards
 Thanks



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[asterisk-users] Please Advice on Best High traffic fxo gateway/cards

2008-06-15 Thread James Mutuku
Hi,
   I need to get an fxo gateway/card for a high traffic asterisk 
installation. Please advice on which gateway/ fxo cards
Thanks

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Re: [asterisk-users] Please Advice on Best High traffic fxo gateway/cards

2008-06-15 Thread Steve Totaro
I would suggest a channel bank populated with FXO cards muxing to a T1.

Thanks,
Steve T

On Sun, Jun 15, 2008 at 10:06 AM, James Mutuku [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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   I need to get an fxo gateway/card for a high traffic asterisk
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Re: [asterisk-users] Please Advice on Best High traffic fxo gateway/cards

2008-06-15 Thread James Mutuku
Please advice on  channel bank
Steve Totaro wrote:
 I would suggest a channel bank populated with FXO cards muxing to a T1.

 Thanks,
 Steve T

 On Sun, Jun 15, 2008 at 10:06 AM, James Mutuku [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   
 Hi,
   I need to get an fxo gateway/card for a high traffic asterisk
 installation. Please advice on which gateway/ fxo cards
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Re: [asterisk-users] Please Advice on Best High traffic fxo gateway/cards

2008-06-15 Thread Steve Totaro
I use Adtran or Adit, I think Rhino has a pretty low priced one but I
have never used so cannot comment.  I can tell you that the Adtran or
Adit is rock solid.

Thanks,
Steve Totaro

On Sun, Jun 15, 2008 at 10:43 AM, James Mutuku [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Please advice on  channel bank
 Steve Totaro wrote:
 I would suggest a channel bank populated with FXO cards muxing to a T1.

 Thanks,
 Steve T

 On Sun, Jun 15, 2008 at 10:06 AM, James Mutuku [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi,
   I need to get an fxo gateway/card for a high traffic asterisk
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Re: [asterisk-users] Please Advice on Best High traffic fxo gateway/cards

2008-06-15 Thread Steve Totaro
Sorry,

Quantify High Traffic

How many POTS lines are we talking about?

Thanks,
Steve Totaro

On Sun, Jun 15, 2008 at 10:47 AM, Steve Totaro
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I use Adtran or Adit, I think Rhino has a pretty low priced one but I
 have never used so cannot comment.  I can tell you that the Adtran or
 Adit is rock solid.

 Thanks,
 Steve Totaro

 On Sun, Jun 15, 2008 at 10:43 AM, James Mutuku [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Please advice on  channel bank
 Steve Totaro wrote:
 I would suggest a channel bank populated with FXO cards muxing to a T1.

 Thanks,
 Steve T

 On Sun, Jun 15, 2008 at 10:06 AM, James Mutuku [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi,
   I need to get an fxo gateway/card for a high traffic asterisk
 installation. Please advice on which gateway/ fxo cards
 Thanks


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Re: [asterisk-users] Please Advice on Best High traffic fxo gateway/cards

2008-06-15 Thread Brian J. Murrell
On Sun, 2008-06-15 at 17:43 +0300, James Mutuku wrote:
 Please advice on  channel bank

Dude.  There's the cool new website you should check out.  It's
www.google.com.

Seriously.  This list is not full of people waiting to do the simplest
research at your request.  Spend a few minutes and do some self-help
before coming here asking the simplest, most general questions.  You are
more likely to get answers to interesting questions rather than
mundane-google-would-have-told-you-all-you-need-to-know-in-5-minutes
questions.

b/



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Re: [asterisk-users] Please Advice on Best High traffic fxo gateway/cards

2008-06-15 Thread Steve Totaro
On Sun, Jun 15, 2008 at 10:53 AM, Brian J. Murrell
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Sun, 2008-06-15 at 17:43 +0300, James Mutuku wrote:
 Please advice on  channel bank

 Dude.  There's the cool new website you should check out.  It's
 www.google.com.

 Seriously.  This list is not full of people waiting to do the simplest
 research at your request.  Spend a few minutes and do some self-help
 before coming here asking the simplest, most general questions.  You are
 more likely to get answers to interesting questions rather than
 mundane-google-would-have-told-you-all-you-need-to-know-in-5-minutes
 questions.

 b/

While true to some degree, I assumed he was looking for someone to
recommend a certain product based on good experiences in the Asterisk
World.

Google may be good for getting information but will turn up a good
many ads too.  Most of these ads/sites all claim to be the best.  We
are the leaders of (such and such)

An obvious pitfall I met was Citel gateways.  Maybe they have improved
for the Definity line, but going that route a year and a half ago made
me look very bad.  I wish I had asked on the list and got someone with
some experience to say, think twice.

Thanks,
Steve Totaro

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Re: [asterisk-users] Please Advice on Best High traffic fxo gateway/cards

2008-06-15 Thread Brian J. Murrell
On Sun, 2008-06-15 at 11:03 -0400, Steve Totaro wrote:
 On Sun, Jun 15, 2008 at 10:53 AM, Brian J. Murrell
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  On Sun, 2008-06-15 at 17:43 +0300, James Mutuku wrote:
  Please advice on  channel bank
 
  Dude.  There's the cool new website you should check out.  It's
  www.google.com.
 
  Seriously.  This list is not full of people waiting to do the simplest
  research at your request.  Spend a few minutes and do some self-help
  before coming here asking the simplest, most general questions.  You are
  more likely to get answers to interesting questions rather than
  mundane-google-would-have-told-you-all-you-need-to-know-in-5-minutes
  questions.
 
  b/
 
 While true to some degree, I assumed he was looking for someone to
 recommend a certain product based on good experiences in the Asterisk
 World.

See, I saw the quotes around channel bank more as the follow question
what is a channel bank.  Maybe it's a language thing and perhaps the
OP can take as constructive criticism to be more to one's actual point
when asking a question.

If he really did understand what a channel bank is and was looking for
recommendations, something more direct like Any recommendations on
which channel bank(s) I should consider using? would have been much
more fruitful I suspect.

 Google may be good for getting information but will turn up a good
 many ads too.  Most of these ads/sites all claim to be the best.  We
 are the leaders of (such and such)

Sure, but all of them will give him a good idea of what one actually is,
which is really what I suspect the question was.

 An obvious pitfall I met was Citel gateways.  Maybe they have improved
 for the Definity line, but going that route a year and a half ago made
 me look very bad.  I wish I had asked on the list and got someone with
 some experience to say, think twice.

Agreed.  I wholeheartedly agree with soliciting for and giving product
recommendations and experiences, but questions like what is ... most
likely can almost always be answered from google with a little effort on
one's own behalf.

b.



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