Re: [asterisk-users] Push to talk over cellular with asterisk (was: Autoanswer in Nokia SIP clients?)
Gordon Henderson schrieb: On Mon, 4 Aug 2008, Patrick wrote: Hi Stefan, Stefan Gofferje wrote: Hi, anybody knows if it is possible to make the Nokia SIP client in the phones autoanswer a call in speakerphone mode? I looked into this for my N95 but if it's possible then it isn't documented. At least I could not find any public documentation how to do it. I did not dig into the Symbian developer docs. Maybe those contain the answer. Similarly for my E90. There's nothing obvious in it that'll make it auto-answer. I was hoping that Nokia was sloppy and tried sending SIP INVITES with PoC headers but the phone was ignoring them or answering with a unsupported media type or similar. Unfortunately, I also wasn't able to register the PoC application with my asterisk. Anybody knows if somebody works on an PoC / push to talk over cellular implementation for *? I studied the 3GPP / Nokia drafts about 2 or 3 years ago. It doesn't look too complicated but I'm not exactly a gifted programmer :). --Stefan ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- AstriCon 2008 - September 22 - 25 Phoenix, Arizona Register Now: http://www.astricon.net asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Push to talk over cellular with asterisk (was: Autoanswer in Nokia SIP clients?)
On Mon, 4 Aug 2008, Stefan Gofferje wrote: Gordon Henderson schrieb: On Mon, 4 Aug 2008, Patrick wrote: Hi Stefan, Stefan Gofferje wrote: Hi, anybody knows if it is possible to make the Nokia SIP client in the phones autoanswer a call in speakerphone mode? I looked into this for my N95 but if it's possible then it isn't documented. At least I could not find any public documentation how to do it. I did not dig into the Symbian developer docs. Maybe those contain the answer. Similarly for my E90. There's nothing obvious in it that'll make it auto-answer. I was hoping that Nokia was sloppy and tried sending SIP INVITES with PoC headers but the phone was ignoring them or answering with a unsupported media type or similar. Unfortunately, I also wasn't able to register the PoC application with my asterisk. Anybody knows if somebody works on an PoC / push to talk over cellular implementation for *? I studied the 3GPP / Nokia drafts about 2 or 3 years ago. It doesn't look too complicated but I'm not exactly a gifted programmer :). So I'll throw the cat amongst the pigeons by saying: Who cares about PTT? Seriously - Push to talk - Half duplex Communications. How ancient is that! It's really reminiscent of ancient US style truckers - Smokey and the Bandit and all that. That's just so last century. Lets put all that behind us and get with the 21st century! We all have hands-free, full duplex communications now, so lets just forget all that old rubbish and get on with the programe. I think a provider tried it over here for a while - Orange IIRC, but they charged an arm and a leg for it, so no-one used it. Everyone I talked to about it just laughed. If I want to talk to someone with my mobile while working, I use a bluetooth headset. I touch my borg implant, say HOME into it and it dials home... I'm not going to hold an E90 to my ear, push a button, say Hello? Can you hear me? Kchchchct let the button go then wait for a reply. I wish the mobile manufacturers would put as much effort into creating a DECT interface in their handsets as waste silicon space time on PTT garbage. If I really want PTT, then I'll go out buy a pair of Motorola handsets. Next thing you'll be asking for is flip phones with a little stubby antennae on top Thankfully they went out of fashion in the UK about 5 years back. Gordon Over, Roger, Wilco and Out. ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- AstriCon 2008 - September 22 - 25 Phoenix, Arizona Register Now: http://www.astricon.net asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Push to talk over cellular with asterisk (was: Autoanswer in Nokia SIP clients?)
On Mon, Aug 04, 2008 at 03:45:32PM +0100, Gordon Henderson wrote: So I'll throw the cat amongst the pigeons by saying: Who cares about PTT? Me. Seriously - Push to talk - Half duplex Communications. How ancient is that! It's really reminiscent of ancient US style truckers - Smokey and the Bandit and all that. That's just so last century. Lets put all that behind us and get with the 21st century! We all have hands-free, full duplex communications now, so lets just forget all that old rubbish and get on with the programe. Clearly, you don't work in an environment where PTT is a feature, not a bug. Lucky you. :-) I think a provider tried it over here for a while - Orange IIRC, but they charged an arm and a leg for it, so no-one used it. Everyone I talked to about it just laughed. If I want to talk to someone with my mobile while working, I use a bluetooth headset. I touch my borg implant, say HOME into it and it dials home... I'm not going to hold an E90 to my ear, push a button, say Hello? Can you hear me? Kchchchct let the button go then wait for a reply. Amazingly, Nextel has made a pretty good living out of it over here for almost 20 years, notwithstanding the number of subs they've lost because they didn't budget the network expansion. PTT communications have quite a number of advantages, actually, some of which I itemized here: http://bestpractices.wikia.com/wiki/Nextel though not all of them. Clearly, they're popular enough that Sprint went through the 7 layers of hell necessary to port QChat to EV-DO and make it interoperate with the old iDen Direct Connect system, in observance of Metcalfe's Law. Cheers, -- jra -- Jay R. Ashworth Baylink [EMAIL PROTECTED] Designer The Things I Think RFC 2100 Ashworth Associates http://baylink.pitas.com '87 e24 St Petersburg FL USA http://photo.imageinc.us +1 727 647 1274 Those who cast the vote decide nothing. Those who count the vote decide everything. -- (Josef Stalin) ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- AstriCon 2008 - September 22 - 25 Phoenix, Arizona Register Now: http://www.astricon.net asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
