Re: [asterisk-users] Text messaging

2009-11-09 Thread Alex Balashov
Hakan,

I did not ask about the purpose of Sendtext() - I know the purpose, 
and on the level on which you have explained it, it is self-evident.

I asked about how it was implemented underneath.  Even in the context 
of SIP channels solely, there are numerous ways to send what one might 
term a "message."

-- Alex

Hakan C wrote:

> It does nothing on hardware channels.
> SendText is just works on SIP channels.
> Purpose of SendText is showing text messages on user phone screen.
> 
> show application SendText
> 
>   -= Info about application 'SendText' =-
> 
> [Synopsis]
> Send a Text Message
> 
> [Description]
>   SendText(text[|options]): Sends text to current channel (callee).
> Result of transmission will be stored in the SENDTEXTSTATUS
> channel variable:
>   SUCCESS  Transmission succeeded
>   FAILURE  Transmission failed
>   UNSUPPORTED  Text transmission not supported by channel
> 
> At this moment, text is supposed to be 7 bit ASCII in most channels.
> The option string many contain the following character:
> 'j' -- jump to n+101 priority if the channel doesn't support
>text transport
> 
> 
> On Mon, Nov 9, 2009 at 4:50 PM, Alex Balashov  <mailto:abalas...@evaristesys.com>> wrote:
> 
> What does Sendtext() actually do?  Does it send a SIP request of
> method MESSAGE?  What does it do on a hardware channel - say, analog
> or TDM?
> 
> Michelle Dupuis wrote:
> 
>  > That may not work for all sip phones.  Some (like xlite/eyebeam)
> crash
>  > when receiving a text, others drop the subsequent call (Aastra 5x).
>  > These observations are based on a project we did in late 2008; so be
>  > sure to do a proof of concept before you get too deep into the
> project.
>  >
>  >
> 
>  > *From:* asterisk-users-boun...@lists.digium.com
> <mailto:asterisk-users-boun...@lists.digium.com>
>  > [mailto:asterisk-users-boun...@lists.digium.com
>     <mailto:asterisk-users-boun...@lists.digium.com>] *On Behalf Of *Danny
>  > Nicholas
>  > *Sent:* Monday, November 09, 2009 9:12 AM
>  > *To:* Asterisk Users List
>  > *Subject:* Re: [asterisk-users] Text messaging
>  >
>  > Sendtext() works for SIP endpoints
>  >
>  >
>  >
>  >
> 
>  >
>  > *From:* asterisk-users-boun...@lists.digium.com
> <mailto:asterisk-users-boun...@lists.digium.com>
>  > [mailto:asterisk-users-boun...@lists.digium.com
> <mailto:asterisk-users-boun...@lists.digium.com>] *On Behalf Of *Thomas
>  > Perron
>  > *Sent:* Saturday, November 07, 2009 9:39 PM
>  > *To:* asterisk-users@lists.digium.com
> <mailto:asterisk-users@lists.digium.com>
>  > *Subject:* [asterisk-users] Text messaging
>  >
>  >
>  >
>  > IVR question:
>  >
>  > Users dial my DID numbers and get connected to macros and other
> vectors
>  > that guide them
>  > to the appropriate context.  Once connected to a specific context I
>  > would like to send a text message
>  > to their phone.  Do I need a PERL script or is there something
> native in
>  > Asterisk 1.6 that can trigger a text to the endpoint?
>  >
>  > Thank you
>  >
>  > [default]
>  > ;include => stdexten
>  > include => big10-IVR
>  > include => cleveland-IVR
>  > exten => _1703XXX,1,Goto(big10-IVR,s,1)
>  > exten => _1517XXX,1,Goto(cleveland-IVR,s,1)
>  >
>  >
>  > [big10-IVR]
>  > exten => s,1,Answer()
>  > exten => s,n,Background(dir-welcome)
>  > ;exten => s,n,WaitExten(1)
>  > ;exten => s,n,Background(astcc-please-enter-your)
>  > ;exten => s,n,Background(zip-code)
>  > ;exten => s,n,Wait(7)
>  > exten => s,n,Background(washington-dc)
>  > ;exten => s,n,Authenticate(,a)
>  > ;exten => s,n,Background(pin-number-accepted)
>  > exten => s,n,Playback(queue-thankyou)
>  > exten => s,n,Background(ginger110109)
>  >
>  >
>  >
> 
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Re: [asterisk-users] Text messaging

2009-11-09 Thread Alex Balashov
Michelle Dupuis wrote:

> I assumed the ATA/gateway would throw away or reject the message since I
> don't think there's an analog equivalent...but I'll wait for the analog
> experts to jump in. 

It appears that Sendtext() simply invokes the callback stub 
ast_channel_tech.send_text, and this is implemented by various channel 
drivers in a proprietary manner.

In the case of chan_sip.c:sip_sendtext(), the implementation indeed 
uses SIP MESSAGE:

static int transmit_message_with_text(struct sip_pvt *p, const char *text)
{
 struct sip_request req;

 reqprep(&req, p, SIP_MESSAGE, 0, 1);
 add_text(&req, text);
 return send_request(p, &req, XMIT_RELIABLE, p->ocseq);
}

In the DAHDI implementation, it appears that some kind of acoustic 
in-band tones are generated using main/tdd.c:tdd_generate().  I am not 
certain what exactly the applicable standard is or how it works.

IAX2 appears to have a "text" frame type:

static int iax2_sendtext(struct ast_channel *c, const char *text)
{

 return send_command_locked(PTR_TO_CALLNO(c->tech_pvt), 
AST_FRAME_TEXT,
 0, 0, (unsigned char *)text, strlen(text) + 1, -1);
}

-- Alex

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Re: [asterisk-users] Text messaging

2009-11-09 Thread Michelle Dupuis
I assumed the ATA/gateway would throw away or reject the message since I
don't think there's an analog equivalent...but I'll wait for the analog
experts to jump in. 

-Original Message-
From: asterisk-users-boun...@lists.digium.com
[mailto:asterisk-users-boun...@lists.digium.com] On Behalf Of Alex Balashov
Sent: Monday, November 09, 2009 9:50 AM
To: Asterisk Users List
Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] Text messaging

What does Sendtext() actually do?  Does it send a SIP request of method
MESSAGE?  What does it do on a hardware channel - say, analog or TDM?

Michelle Dupuis wrote:

> That may not work for all sip phones.  Some (like xlite/eyebeam) crash 
> when receiving a text, others drop the subsequent call (Aastra 5x).
> These observations are based on a project we did in late 2008; so be 
> sure to do a proof of concept before you get too deep into the project.
> 
> --
> --
> *From:* asterisk-users-boun...@lists.digium.com
> [mailto:asterisk-users-boun...@lists.digium.com] *On Behalf Of *Danny 
> Nicholas
> *Sent:* Monday, November 09, 2009 9:12 AM
> *To:* Asterisk Users List
> *Subject:* Re: [asterisk-users] Text messaging
> 
> Sendtext() works for SIP endpoints
> 
>  
> 
> --
> --
> 
> *From:* asterisk-users-boun...@lists.digium.com
> [mailto:asterisk-users-boun...@lists.digium.com] *On Behalf Of *Thomas 
> Perron
> *Sent:* Saturday, November 07, 2009 9:39 PM
> *To:* asterisk-users@lists.digium.com
> *Subject:* [asterisk-users] Text messaging
> 
>  
> 
> IVR question:
> 
> Users dial my DID numbers and get connected to macros and other 
> vectors that guide them to the appropriate context.  Once connected to 
> a specific context I would like to send a text message to their phone.  
> Do I need a PERL script or is there something native in Asterisk 1.6 
> that can trigger a text to the endpoint?
> 
> Thank you
> 
> [default]
> ;include => stdexten
> include => big10-IVR
> include => cleveland-IVR
> exten => _1703XXX,1,Goto(big10-IVR,s,1)
> exten => _1517XXX,1,Goto(cleveland-IVR,s,1)
> 
> 
> [big10-IVR]
> exten => s,1,Answer()
> exten => s,n,Background(dir-welcome)
> ;exten => s,n,WaitExten(1)
> ;exten => s,n,Background(astcc-please-enter-your)
> ;exten => s,n,Background(zip-code)
> ;exten => s,n,Wait(7)
> exten => s,n,Background(washington-dc) ;exten => 
> s,n,Authenticate(,a) ;exten => s,n,Background(pin-number-accepted)
> exten => s,n,Playback(queue-thankyou)
> exten => s,n,Background(ginger110109)
> 
> 
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Re: [asterisk-users] Text messaging

2009-11-09 Thread Hakan C
It does nothing on hardware channels.
SendText is just works on SIP channels.
Purpose of SendText is showing text messages on user phone screen.

show application SendText

  -= Info about application 'SendText' =-

[Synopsis]
Send a Text Message

[Description]
  SendText(text[|options]): Sends text to current channel (callee).
Result of transmission will be stored in the SENDTEXTSTATUS
channel variable:
  SUCCESS  Transmission succeeded
  FAILURE  Transmission failed
  UNSUPPORTED  Text transmission not supported by channel

At this moment, text is supposed to be 7 bit ASCII in most channels.
The option string many contain the following character:
'j' -- jump to n+101 priority if the channel doesn't support
   text transport


On Mon, Nov 9, 2009 at 4:50 PM, Alex Balashov wrote:

> What does Sendtext() actually do?  Does it send a SIP request of
> method MESSAGE?  What does it do on a hardware channel - say, analog
> or TDM?
>
> Michelle Dupuis wrote:
>
> > That may not work for all sip phones.  Some (like xlite/eyebeam) crash
> > when receiving a text, others drop the subsequent call (Aastra 5x).
> > These observations are based on a project we did in late 2008; so be
> > sure to do a proof of concept before you get too deep into the project.
> >
> > 
> > *From:* asterisk-users-boun...@lists.digium.com
> > [mailto:asterisk-users-boun...@lists.digium.com] *On Behalf Of *Danny
> > Nicholas
> > *Sent:* Monday, November 09, 2009 9:12 AM
> > *To:* Asterisk Users List
> > *Subject:* Re: [asterisk-users] Text messaging
> >
> > Sendtext() works for SIP endpoints
> >
> >
> >
> > 
> >
> > *From:* asterisk-users-boun...@lists.digium.com
> > [mailto:asterisk-users-boun...@lists.digium.com] *On Behalf Of *Thomas
> > Perron
> > *Sent:* Saturday, November 07, 2009 9:39 PM
> > *To:* asterisk-users@lists.digium.com
> > *Subject:* [asterisk-users] Text messaging
> >
> >
> >
> > IVR question:
> >
> > Users dial my DID numbers and get connected to macros and other vectors
> > that guide them
> > to the appropriate context.  Once connected to a specific context I
> > would like to send a text message
> > to their phone.  Do I need a PERL script or is there something native in
> > Asterisk 1.6 that can trigger a text to the endpoint?
> >
> > Thank you
> >
> > [default]
> > ;include => stdexten
> > include => big10-IVR
> > include => cleveland-IVR
> > exten => _1703XXX,1,Goto(big10-IVR,s,1)
> > exten => _1517XXX,1,Goto(cleveland-IVR,s,1)
> >
> >
> > [big10-IVR]
> > exten => s,1,Answer()
> > exten => s,n,Background(dir-welcome)
> > ;exten => s,n,WaitExten(1)
> > ;exten => s,n,Background(astcc-please-enter-your)
> > ;exten => s,n,Background(zip-code)
> > ;exten => s,n,Wait(7)
> > exten => s,n,Background(washington-dc)
> > ;exten => s,n,Authenticate(,a)
> > ;exten => s,n,Background(pin-number-accepted)
> > exten => s,n,Playback(queue-thankyou)
> > exten => s,n,Background(ginger110109)
> >
> >
> > 
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Re: [asterisk-users] Text messaging

2009-11-09 Thread Alex Balashov
What does Sendtext() actually do?  Does it send a SIP request of 
method MESSAGE?  What does it do on a hardware channel - say, analog 
or TDM?

Michelle Dupuis wrote:

> That may not work for all sip phones.  Some (like xlite/eyebeam) crash 
> when receiving a text, others drop the subsequent call (Aastra 5x).  
> These observations are based on a project we did in late 2008; so be 
> sure to do a proof of concept before you get too deep into the project.
> 
> 
> *From:* asterisk-users-boun...@lists.digium.com 
> [mailto:asterisk-users-boun...@lists.digium.com] *On Behalf Of *Danny 
> Nicholas
> *Sent:* Monday, November 09, 2009 9:12 AM
> *To:* Asterisk Users List
> *Subject:* Re: [asterisk-users] Text messaging
> 
> Sendtext() works for SIP endpoints
> 
>  
> 
> 
> 
> *From:* asterisk-users-boun...@lists.digium.com 
> [mailto:asterisk-users-boun...@lists.digium.com] *On Behalf Of *Thomas 
> Perron
> *Sent:* Saturday, November 07, 2009 9:39 PM
> *To:* asterisk-users@lists.digium.com
> *Subject:* [asterisk-users] Text messaging
> 
>  
> 
> IVR question:
> 
> Users dial my DID numbers and get connected to macros and other vectors 
> that guide them
> to the appropriate context.  Once connected to a specific context I 
> would like to send a text message
> to their phone.  Do I need a PERL script or is there something native in 
> Asterisk 1.6 that can trigger a text to the endpoint?
> 
> Thank you
> 
> [default]
> ;include => stdexten
> include => big10-IVR
> include => cleveland-IVR
> exten => _1703XXX,1,Goto(big10-IVR,s,1)
> exten => _1517XXX,1,Goto(cleveland-IVR,s,1)
> 
> 
> [big10-IVR]
> exten => s,1,Answer()
> exten => s,n,Background(dir-welcome)
> ;exten => s,n,WaitExten(1)
> ;exten => s,n,Background(astcc-please-enter-your)
> ;exten => s,n,Background(zip-code)
> ;exten => s,n,Wait(7)
> exten => s,n,Background(washington-dc)
> ;exten => s,n,Authenticate(,a)
> ;exten => s,n,Background(pin-number-accepted)
> exten => s,n,Playback(queue-thankyou)
> exten => s,n,Background(ginger110109)
> 
> 
> 
> 
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Re: [asterisk-users] Text messaging

2009-11-09 Thread Michelle Dupuis
That may not work for all sip phones.  Some (like xlite/eyebeam) crash when
receiving a text, others drop the subsequent call (Aastra 5x).  These
observations are based on a project we did in late 2008; so be sure to do a
proof of concept before you get too deep into the project.

  _  

From: asterisk-users-boun...@lists.digium.com
[mailto:asterisk-users-boun...@lists.digium.com] On Behalf Of Danny Nicholas
Sent: Monday, November 09, 2009 9:12 AM
To: Asterisk Users List
Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] Text messaging



Sendtext() works for SIP endpoints

 

  _  

From: asterisk-users-boun...@lists.digium.com
[mailto:asterisk-users-boun...@lists.digium.com] On Behalf Of Thomas Perron
Sent: Saturday, November 07, 2009 9:39 PM
To: asterisk-users@lists.digium.com
Subject: [asterisk-users] Text messaging

 

IVR question:

Users dial my DID numbers and get connected to macros and other vectors that
guide them 
to the appropriate context.  Once connected to a specific context I would
like to send a text message
to their phone.  Do I need a PERL script or is there something native in
Asterisk 1.6 that can trigger a text to the endpoint?

Thank you

[default]
;include => stdexten
include => big10-IVR
include => cleveland-IVR
exten => _1703XXX,1,Goto(big10-IVR,s,1)
exten => _1517XXX,1,Goto(cleveland-IVR,s,1)


[big10-IVR]
exten => s,1,Answer()
exten => s,n,Background(dir-welcome)
;exten => s,n,WaitExten(1)
;exten => s,n,Background(astcc-please-enter-your)
;exten => s,n,Background(zip-code)
;exten => s,n,Wait(7)
exten => s,n,Background(washington-dc)
;exten => s,n,Authenticate(,a)
;exten => s,n,Background(pin-number-accepted)
exten => s,n,Playback(queue-thankyou)
exten => s,n,Background(ginger110109)



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Re: [asterisk-users] Text messaging

2009-11-09 Thread Danny Nicholas
Sendtext() works for SIP endpoints

 

  _  

From: asterisk-users-boun...@lists.digium.com
[mailto:asterisk-users-boun...@lists.digium.com] On Behalf Of Thomas Perron
Sent: Saturday, November 07, 2009 9:39 PM
To: asterisk-users@lists.digium.com
Subject: [asterisk-users] Text messaging

 

IVR question:

Users dial my DID numbers and get connected to macros and other vectors that
guide them 
to the appropriate context.  Once connected to a specific context I would
like to send a text message
to their phone.  Do I need a PERL script or is there something native in
Asterisk 1.6 that can trigger a text to the endpoint?

Thank you

[default]
;include => stdexten
include => big10-IVR
include => cleveland-IVR
exten => _1703XXX,1,Goto(big10-IVR,s,1)
exten => _1517XXX,1,Goto(cleveland-IVR,s,1)


[big10-IVR]
exten => s,1,Answer()
exten => s,n,Background(dir-welcome)
;exten => s,n,WaitExten(1)
;exten => s,n,Background(astcc-please-enter-your)
;exten => s,n,Background(zip-code)
;exten => s,n,Wait(7)
exten => s,n,Background(washington-dc)
;exten => s,n,Authenticate(,a)
;exten => s,n,Background(pin-number-accepted)
exten => s,n,Playback(queue-thankyou)
exten => s,n,Background(ginger110109)



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[asterisk-users] Text messaging

2009-11-07 Thread Thomas Perron
IVR question:

Users dial my DID numbers and get connected to macros and other vectors that
guide them
to the appropriate context.  Once connected to a specific context I would
like to send a text message
to their phone.  Do I need a PERL script or is there something native in
Asterisk 1.6 that can trigger a text to the endpoint?

Thank you

[default]
;include => stdexten
include => big10-IVR
include => cleveland-IVR
exten => _1703XXX,1,Goto(big10-IVR,s,1)
exten => _1517XXX,1,Goto(cleveland-IVR,s,1)


[big10-IVR]
exten => s,1,Answer()
exten => s,n,Background(dir-welcome)
;exten => s,n,WaitExten(1)
;exten => s,n,Background(astcc-please-enter-your)
;exten => s,n,Background(zip-code)
;exten => s,n,Wait(7)
exten => s,n,Background(washington-dc)
;exten => s,n,Authenticate(,a)
;exten => s,n,Background(pin-number-accepted)
exten => s,n,Playback(queue-thankyou)
exten => s,n,Background(ginger110109)
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Re: [asterisk-users] Text messaging and Asterisk

2009-01-19 Thread Gordon Henderson
On Mon, 19 Jan 2009, Pascal Bruno wrote:

> Is it possible for asterisk to send sms through a GSM gateway, tor example
> the Portech MV-37X?
> If yes, any examples of configurations would be really apreciated.

AIUI, the Portechs can recieve TXTs and you can see them via their Web 
interface.. I don't think you can send with them.

However, I can get asterisk to send TXT messages via a GSM gateway I have 
on the serial port of the server using the Linux command-line SMS 
programs. That's easy enough.

   System(putsms 44mobilenumber 'message goes here')

However, it takes my Siemens TC35 GSM terminal about 4.5 seconds to send 
each message which might stall a dial-plan somewhat... But there are 
various message handling systems avalable that will queue outgoing 
messages, etc. so the send command can return instantly to the dialplan 
with sending going on in the background.

Gordon

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Re: [asterisk-users] Text messaging and Asterisk

2009-01-19 Thread Pascal Bruno
Is it possible for asterisk to send sms through a GSM gateway, tor example
the Portech MV-37X?
If yes, any examples of configurations would be really apreciated.



On Tue, Oct 14, 2008 at 11:13 PM, Steve Totaro <
stot...@totarotechnologies.com> wrote:

> The most flexible way but will require a bit of work and scales SMS modem
> per SMS per second.
>
> Install kannel and configure it to work with your SMS modem (many cell
> phones work just fine for sending and receiving).  It does not have to go on
> the asterisk box, just a box you can hit with HTTP or HTTPs.
>
> Make sure you have lynx installed
>
> In your Asterisk dialplan use system(lynx
> http://ipofyoursmsserverusernamepasswordnumbermessage) that is not the
> exact syntax but it is all documented but everything in the SMS in encoded
> in the URL.
>
> With five T-mobile phones, I can send five a second, it seems linear, it
> may be possible to increase throughput, I just got it working and left it at
> that.
>
> Messages queue until there is an available modem, sent in order.
>
> PLUS it is MUCH cheaper (at least in the US) than these aggregators.  With
> a T-Mobile family plan, 1,000 voice minutes, and unlimited SMS runs me about
> $135/mo.  I guess it depends on volume of SMS you are sending.
>
> Thanks,
> Steve Totaro
>
>
> On Tue, Oct 14, 2008 at 11:46 PM, C. Savinovich <
> c.savinov...@itntelecom.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>  Thanks, excellent point.  Furthermore, a google search on fastsms.conf
>> yielded the existence of a couple of 'Asterisk SMS gateways'..wow
>>
>> CS
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: asterisk-users-boun...@lists.digium.com
>> [mailto:asterisk-users-boun...@lists.digium.com] On Behalf Of Drew Gibson
>> Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2008 2:22 PM
>> To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion
>> Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] Text messaging and Asterisk
>>
>> C. Savinovich wrote:
>> >   Can somebody please give a pointer to a complete neophyte (like me) on
>> > text messaging, what product can I use to send and automatic text
>> message
>> to
>> > a cell phone from within the asterisk dialplan? (the part of the
>> dialplan
>> I
>> > have down, the part of the text message no)
>> >
>> > Thanks
>> > C. Savinovich
>> >
>> >
>>
>> I don't use it but on my Asterisk 1.4 slug there was a file
>> /etc/asterisk/fastsms.conf which had info about connecting to SMS
>> services for about 4c per txt.
>>
>> regards,
>>
>> Drew
>>
>>
>> --
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>>
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Re: [asterisk-users] Text messaging and Asterisk

2008-10-14 Thread Steve Totaro
The most flexible way but will require a bit of work and scales SMS modem
per SMS per second.

Install kannel and configure it to work with your SMS modem (many cell
phones work just fine for sending and receiving).  It does not have to go on
the asterisk box, just a box you can hit with HTTP or HTTPs.

Make sure you have lynx installed

In your Asterisk dialplan use system(lynx
http://ipofyoursmsserverusernamepasswordnumbermessage) that is not the exact
syntax but it is all documented but everything in the SMS in encoded in the
URL.

With five T-mobile phones, I can send five a second, it seems linear, it may
be possible to increase throughput, I just got it working and left it at
that.

Messages queue until there is an available modem, sent in order.

PLUS it is MUCH cheaper (at least in the US) than these aggregators.  With a
T-Mobile family plan, 1,000 voice minutes, and unlimited SMS runs me about
$135/mo.  I guess it depends on volume of SMS you are sending.

Thanks,
Steve Totaro

On Tue, Oct 14, 2008 at 11:46 PM, C. Savinovich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:

>
>  Thanks, excellent point.  Furthermore, a google search on fastsms.conf
> yielded the existence of a couple of 'Asterisk SMS gateways'..wow
>
> CS
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Drew Gibson
> Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2008 2:22 PM
> To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion
> Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] Text messaging and Asterisk
>
> C. Savinovich wrote:
> >   Can somebody please give a pointer to a complete neophyte (like me) on
> > text messaging, what product can I use to send and automatic text message
> to
> > a cell phone from within the asterisk dialplan? (the part of the dialplan
> I
> > have down, the part of the text message no)
> >
> > Thanks
> > C. Savinovich
> >
> >
>
> I don't use it but on my Asterisk 1.4 slug there was a file
> /etc/asterisk/fastsms.conf which had info about connecting to SMS
> services for about 4c per txt.
>
> regards,
>
> Drew
>
>
> --
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>
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> OANDA Corporation
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Re: [asterisk-users] Text messaging and Asterisk

2008-10-14 Thread C. Savinovich

  Thanks, excellent point.  Furthermore, a google search on fastsms.conf
yielded the existence of a couple of 'Asterisk SMS gateways'..wow

CS


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Drew Gibson
Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2008 2:22 PM
To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion
Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] Text messaging and Asterisk

C. Savinovich wrote:
>   Can somebody please give a pointer to a complete neophyte (like me) on
> text messaging, what product can I use to send and automatic text message
to
> a cell phone from within the asterisk dialplan? (the part of the dialplan
I
> have down, the part of the text message no)
>
> Thanks
> C. Savinovich
>
>   

I don't use it but on my Asterisk 1.4 slug there was a file 
/etc/asterisk/fastsms.conf which had info about connecting to SMS 
services for about 4c per txt.

regards,

Drew


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Re: [asterisk-users] Text messaging and Asterisk

2008-10-14 Thread Drew Gibson
C. Savinovich wrote:
>   Can somebody please give a pointer to a complete neophyte (like me) on
> text messaging, what product can I use to send and automatic text message to
> a cell phone from within the asterisk dialplan? (the part of the dialplan I
> have down, the part of the text message no)
>
> Thanks
> C. Savinovich
>
>   

I don't use it but on my Asterisk 1.4 slug there was a file 
/etc/asterisk/fastsms.conf which had info about connecting to SMS 
services for about 4c per txt.

regards,

Drew


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OANDA Corporation
www.oanda.com


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Re: [asterisk-users] Text messaging and Asterisk

2008-10-13 Thread John Todd
>   Can somebody please give a pointer to a complete neophyte (like me) on
>text messaging, what product can I use to send and automatic text message to
>a cell phone from within the asterisk dialplan? (the part of the dialplan I
>have down, the part of the text message no)
>
>Thanks
>C. Savinovich

1) Email-to-SMS gateways are plentiful, and most carriers have them. 
Google will give more details, but WikiPedia has good data to start: 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SMS_gateway

2) Connect a GSM phone to your *NIX system.  There are several 
software packages out there to do this via serial port.  Command-line 
tools then can send SMS messages via the local phone.  Put a 
"System()" call in your dialplan, or (better) use an AGI.

3) Use a service provider that does SMS gatewaying.  Much more 
reliable than the first two methods.  One example firm I've used with 
very easy startup and several APIs including email: Clickatell.com. 
Others: http://www.160characters.org/pages.php?action=view&pid=7

JT

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Re: [asterisk-users] Text messaging and Asterisk

2008-10-13 Thread Matt Gibson
> >
> 
> Are you sending SMS to known users or to any mobile phone user?
> 
> If you are sending to a fixed user base, track down the email to SMS
> gateways for their carriers.  Then sending an SMS is no different than
> sending an e-mail.
> 


If it's for something really important this might not be the best route -
here in Canada, with Fido Wireless, the "email to sms gateway" can be
instant, all the way up to 36 hours before you receive them - for something
like alerts this is unacceptable. I've called and the response was pretty
much "too bad so sad" - you may be better off with connecting a mobile to
the box via Bluetooth or usb, and sending through said mobile.. 




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Re: [asterisk-users] Text messaging and Asterisk

2008-10-13 Thread C. Savinovich

I am trying to send text messaging to one caller, maybe about 40  of those
per day, whose phone service have expired.  All these callers are calling
from their cell phones, and I have their caller ids.  I will like to send
each of them an individual text message (not an email) saying "you attempted
to use the service, but your service has expired"

Thank you


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On Oct 13, 2008, at 11:28 AM, C. Savinovich wrote:

>
>  I mean is if someone know of an sms server or service that allows  
> me to
> send outgoing text messaging.
>

Are you sending SMS to known users or to any mobile phone user?

If you are sending to a fixed user base, track down the email to SMS  
gateways for their carriers.  Then sending an SMS is no different than  
sending an e-mail.

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Re: [asterisk-users] Text messaging and Asterisk

2008-10-13 Thread Kurt Knudsen
I use the 'generic' file in Postfix to map an email address that is not in
use to someone's text messaging address. It'd be [EMAIL PROTECTED]
ie: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Then, any email that gets sent to
[EMAIL PROTECTED], will get automatically sent to that person's phone.

On Mon, Oct 13, 2008 at 3:14 PM, Eric Chamberlain <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>
> On Oct 13, 2008, at 11:28 AM, C. Savinovich wrote:
>
> >
> >  I mean is if someone know of an sms server or service that allows
> > me to
> > send outgoing text messaging.
> >
>
> Are you sending SMS to known users or to any mobile phone user?
>
> If you are sending to a fixed user base, track down the email to SMS
> gateways for their carriers.  Then sending an SMS is no different than
> sending an e-mail.
>
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> RF.com - http://RF.com/
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Re: [asterisk-users] Text messaging and Asterisk

2008-10-13 Thread Eric Chamberlain

On Oct 13, 2008, at 11:28 AM, C. Savinovich wrote:

>
>  I mean is if someone know of an sms server or service that allows  
> me to
> send outgoing text messaging.
>

Are you sending SMS to known users or to any mobile phone user?

If you are sending to a fixed user base, track down the email to SMS  
gateways for their carriers.  Then sending an SMS is no different than  
sending an e-mail.

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Re: [asterisk-users] Text messaging and Asterisk

2008-10-13 Thread C. Savinovich

  I mean is if someone know of an sms server or service that allows me to
send outgoing text messaging.

CS

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C. Savinovich wrote:
>   Can somebody please give a pointer to a complete neophyte (like me) on
> text messaging, what product can I use to send and automatic text message
to
> a cell phone from within the asterisk dialplan? (the part of the dialplan
I
> have down, the part of the text message no)
>   
IIRC, asterisk currently supports sending text messages only when voice 
call is already established, so not very usefull yet...
PJ

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Re: [asterisk-users] Text messaging and Asterisk

2008-10-13 Thread Pavel Jezek


C. Savinovich wrote:
>   Can somebody please give a pointer to a complete neophyte (like me) on
> text messaging, what product can I use to send and automatic text message to
> a cell phone from within the asterisk dialplan? (the part of the dialplan I
> have down, the part of the text message no)
>   
IIRC, asterisk currently supports sending text messages only when voice 
call is already established, so not very usefull yet...
PJ

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>
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[asterisk-users] Text messaging and Asterisk

2008-10-13 Thread C. Savinovich

  Can somebody please give a pointer to a complete neophyte (like me) on
text messaging, what product can I use to send and automatic text message to
a cell phone from within the asterisk dialplan? (the part of the dialplan I
have down, the part of the text message no)

Thanks
C. Savinovich



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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Text Messaging or AIM

2005-03-14 Thread Robert Hajime Lanning


> There is no info involved here, you make it sound like you need some
> docs, why? just take out the manual of your phone, and look up how to
> send messages. Since you have a cingular phone just go ahead and try
> it. You afraid of the bill? send it to me :) (never said I'm going to
> pay it).

Sorry, I was assuming that only an ANI can go into the to field of
an SMS message.  Did not realize that you can place an email address
there also.

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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Text Messaging or AIM

2005-03-14 Thread C F
On Mon, 14 Mar 2005 00:54:50 -0800 (PST), Robert Hajime Lanning
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> 
> > Why not, just use the email address given before from you email
> > client.



> So, you can generate an SMS message on your Cell phone and send it
> to your, say, hotmail account?  Or are you talking about using
> an embeded email client on the phone to create an email.  Not using
> SMS at all?

Yes of course, now since you have a Cingular phone just create a new
SMS message and when it gives you the optiont to chose the recipient
just chose an email address, or enter an email address (yes even to
hotmail, if they use email). Now the return address that shows up when
you send from your phone, is what you would use from your email
(hotmail in your case) to send back an SMS message from email.

 
> > I have my asterisk box setup in voicemail.conf to send me
> > notifications to me cell phone using this method. I'm a Sprint
> > subscriber (I used to be Verizon, and it worked with them as well), so
> > I have * setup to send me an email to
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED], letting me know
> > there is a new voicemail waiting for me, callerID of caller, and
> > duration and in which mailbox. I can then call back my * box and
> > listen to the messages, I like this better than the callback feature
> > b/c I can do it on my time.
> 
> This is easy.  Just put the @carrier.com address in the
> definition of the voicemail box in voicemail.conf.
> 
> Though this is not the direction I have been talking about.
> 
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Text Messaging or AIM

2005-03-14 Thread C F
On Mon, 14 Mar 2005 00:59:08 -0800 (PST), Robert Hajime Lanning
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> 
> > Robert Hajime Lanning wrote:
> >> um, backwards.  E-Mail to SMS.  I have not seen the other way
> >> around.
> >
> > Both Cingular and Verizon supports both.
> >
> 
> I have not tried this, nor have I seen any documentation mentioning
> it.  Do you or anyone else have a pointer for the info?
> Especially for Cingular, as that is what I am with, currently.

There is no info involved here, you make it sound like you need some
docs, why? just take out the manual of your phone, and look up how to
send messages. Since you have a cingular phone just go ahead and try
it. You afraid of the bill? send it to me :) (never said I'm going to
pay it).

 
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Text Messaging or AIM

2005-03-14 Thread Eric Wieling
Robert Hajime Lanning wrote:

Robert Hajime Lanning wrote:
um, backwards.  E-Mail to SMS.  I have not seen the other way
around.
Both Cingular and Verizon supports both.

I have not tried this, nor have I seen any documentation mentioning
it.  Do you or anyone else have a pointer for the info?
Especially for Cingular, as that is what I am with, currently.
Send a text message.  Instead of putting a naked phone number in the 
To: field, put in an e-mail address.  At least with Cingular, you need 
to have text messaging enabled on your cell phone account.

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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Text Messaging or AIM

2005-03-14 Thread Robert Hajime Lanning


> Robert Hajime Lanning wrote:
>> um, backwards.  E-Mail to SMS.  I have not seen the other way
>> around.
>
> Both Cingular and Verizon supports both.
>

I have not tried this, nor have I seen any documentation mentioning
it.  Do you or anyone else have a pointer for the info?
Especially for Cingular, as that is what I am with, currently.

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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Text Messaging or AIM

2005-03-14 Thread Robert Hajime Lanning


> Why not, just use the email address given before from you email
> client.

So, you can generate an SMS message on your Cell phone and send it
to your, say, hotmail account?  Or are you talking about using
an embeded email client on the phone to create an email.  Not using
SMS at all?

> I have my asterisk box setup in voicemail.conf to send me
> notifications to me cell phone using this method. I'm a Sprint
> subscriber (I used to be Verizon, and it worked with them as well), so
> I have * setup to send me an email to
> [EMAIL PROTECTED], letting me know
> there is a new voicemail waiting for me, callerID of caller, and
> duration and in which mailbox. I can then call back my * box and
> listen to the messages, I like this better than the callback feature
> b/c I can do it on my time.

This is easy.  Just put the @carrier.com address in the
definition of the voicemail box in voicemail.conf.

Though this is not the direction I have been talking about.

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RE: [Asterisk-Users] Text Messaging or AIM

2005-03-13 Thread Anton Krall
This shows you don't know how centericq works and how its configured :).

Its pretty secure if you knowwhat you are doing.
 

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On Sun, 13 Mar 2005 16:13:04 -0600, Anton Krall
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> I already have this workling for remote linux admin. For example, each 
> linux box has it MSN user and I have them on ly MSN list. So if I need 
> to reset a server, I just send an IM via MSN to the user with the 
> keyword reboot and the server runs the command.
> 
> If you need any help on setting this up, let me know.
> 
> Anton Krall

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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Text Messaging or AIM

2005-03-13 Thread Scheda
Email to SMS, it goes both ways. I frequently email people from my
phone, and they can email me right back. With T-Mobile, the email
address is the phone number 1(areacode)[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Text Messaging or AIM

2005-03-13 Thread Strom Carlson
On Sun, 13 Mar 2005 16:13:04 -0600, Anton Krall
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I already have this workling for remote linux admin. For example, each linux
> box has it MSN user and I have them on ly MSN list. So if I need to reset a
> server, I just send an IM via MSN to the user with the keyword reboot and
> the server runs the command.
> 
> If you need any help on setting this up, let me know.
> 
> Anton Krall

WOW!  I have never seen a finer example of security in all my years of
working with computers.

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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Text Messaging or AIM

2005-03-13 Thread Eric Wieling
Robert Hajime Lanning wrote:

Well, as far as I know there is no such service in the USA. Take in
mind that SMS is not so popular in the states, email is, and every
cell phone in the US that I have seen that supports SMS, supports SMS
to email from the phone as well.

um, backwards.  E-Mail to SMS.  I have not seen the other way around.
Both Cingular and Verizon supports both.
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Text Messaging or AIM

2005-03-13 Thread C F
On Sun, 13 Mar 2005 13:55:30 -0800 (PST), Robert Hajime Lanning
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> > Well, as far as I know there is no such service in the USA. Take in
> > mind that SMS is not so popular in the states, email is, and every
> > cell phone in the US that I have seen that supports SMS, supports SMS
> > to email from the phone as well.
 
> um, backwards.  E-Mail to SMS.  I have not seen the other way around.

Why not, just use the email address given before from you email
client. I have my asterisk box setup in voicemail.conf to send me
notifications to me cell phone using this method. I'm a Sprint
subscriber (I used to be Verizon, and it worked with them as well), so
I have * setup to send me an email to
[EMAIL PROTECTED], letting me know
there is a new voicemail waiting for me, callerID of caller, and
duration and in which mailbox. I can then call back my * box and
listen to the messages, I like this better than the callback feature
b/c I can do it on my time.

> >Just take a look at this:
> > http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=569&ncid=738&e=1&u=/nm/20050313/tc_nm/column_pluggedin_dc
> > Most providers have an SMS to email gateway. To send a message to any
> > SprintPCS phone use: [EMAIL PROTECTED],
> > for Verizon use: [EMAIL PROTECTED] I don't know for
> > the others. There is also a problem that since Number Portability came
> > in last year there is no way of knowing which phone number belongs to
> > which provider.
> >
> 
> Yup, I've messed with AT&T's gateway before, they were bought by
> Cingular/SBC.
> 
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RE: [Asterisk-Users] Text Messaging or AIM

2005-03-13 Thread Anton Krall
Check out centericq on freshmeat. Lets your linux box be on MSN, ICQ, AIM,
etc. 

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jess Coburn
Sent: Domingo, 13 de Marzo de 2005 03:18 p.m.
To: Scheda; Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion
Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] Text Messaging or AIM

So you basically want an SMS or IM callback app right?

One way to do this would be send an email to an address like
([EMAIL PROTECTED]) and have a cronjob query/pop this email address for
your specific message and then when it finds it have it create a .call file
to call you and connect you to whatever context you setup, etc.  Shouldn't
be very hard at all.  This would allow for emails and I'm pretty sure every
cell can send an email.

As for IM/AIM I'd just find a Perl AIM package (quick google returned:
http://search.cpan.org/~aryeh/Net-AIM-1.22/AIM.pm) and again it same thing,
if it gets a IM with the correct details in it, simply create a .call file
to call your cell. Again this too should be pretty easy to setup.

Here's the link to creating .call files:
http://www.voip-info.org/wiki-Asterisk+auto-dial+out


Jess
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RE: [Asterisk-Users] Text Messaging or AIM

2005-03-13 Thread Anton Krall
I already have this workling for remote linux admin. For example, each linux
box has it MSN user and I have them on ly MSN list. So if I need to reset a
server, I just send an IM via MSN to the user with the keyword reboot and
the server runs the command.

If you need any help on setting this up, let me know.

Anton Krall 

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Scheda
Sent: Domingo, 13 de Marzo de 2005 02:31 p.m.
Cc: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion
Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] Text Messaging or AIM

On Sun, 13 Mar 2005 13:25:10 -0600, Anton Krall
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> There is a program for linux called centericq, this program is for 
> connecting a linux box to aim, icq, msn, etc something like trillian.
> Anyway, this centericq lets you define external commands that can run 
> when you send it a message containing certain words. Also, you can 
> define a "system" call in asterisk.
> 
> The way I see this is simple:
> 
> Install centericq on your linux box and get a nick for it so it will 
> connect to all messengers as would a person. Then define on its 
> external command file a keyword to create a .call file for asterisk. 
> Then it is simple, just send a message via any messenger to your linux 
> box and it will create the call file and asterisk will process it, 
> thus, calling you. :)
> 
> How does that sound?



I'm really liking this idea. It sounds like exactly what I need. This sounds
like a "bot" in irc or the like... Basically I could set a command such as
/call to call me it seems. That would be exactly what I need. Thank you a
ton.
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Text Messaging or AIM

2005-03-13 Thread Scheda
On Sun, 13 Mar 2005 16:18:06 -0500, Jess Coburn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> So you basically want an SMS or IM callback app right?
> 
> One way to do this would be send an email to an address like
> ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) and have a cronjob query/pop this email
> address for your specific message and then when it finds it have it
> create a .call file to call you and connect you to whatever context
> you setup, etc.  Shouldn't be very hard at all.  This would allow for
> emails and I'm pretty sure every cell can send an email.
> 
> As for IM/AIM I'd just find a Perl AIM package (quick google returned:
> http://search.cpan.org/~aryeh/Net-AIM-1.22/AIM.pm) and again it same
> thing, if it gets a IM with the correct details in it, simply create a
> .call file to call your cell. Again this too should be pretty easy to
> setup.
> 
> Here's the link to creating .call files:
> http://www.voip-info.org/wiki-Asterisk+auto-dial+out
> 
> 
> Jess
> 

>From what I've seen so far, I may just go with the CenterICQ idea, it
seems to be the easiest way of working this. Since I'm not a linux
expert, the easiest route is best. I suppose I can set CenterICQ up to
create the .call in one folder then use the mv function to move it to
the call folder. That way it's not read as it's being written.
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Text Messaging or AIM

2005-03-13 Thread Robert Hajime Lanning



> Well, as far as I know there is no such service in the USA. Take in
> mind that SMS is not so popular in the states, email is, and every
> cell phone in the US that I have seen that supports SMS, supports SMS
> to email from the phone as well.

um, backwards.  E-Mail to SMS.  I have not seen the other way around.

>Just take a look at this:
> http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=569&ncid=738&e=1&u=/nm/20050313/tc_nm/column_pluggedin_dc
> Most providers have an SMS to email gateway. To send a message to any
> SprintPCS phone use: [EMAIL PROTECTED],
> for Verizon use: [EMAIL PROTECTED] I don't know for
> the others. There is also a problem that since Number Portability came
> in last year there is no way of knowing which phone number belongs to
> which provider.
>

Yup, I've messed with AT&T's gateway before, they were bought by
Cingular/SBC.

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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Text Messaging or AIM

2005-03-13 Thread Peter Svensson
On Sun, 13 Mar 2005, Matthew Asham wrote:

> > Whatever gave you that idea? Most operators have an interface allowing 
> > reception of sms:es over internet. The protocols may be strange (they are) 
> > and the pricing models vary greatly, but there are many receive interface 
> > to sms:es.
> 
> I've been wondering about this for some time, is there a common product name 
> for 
> this service?  

No, not really. You should be able to call your operator (or in Europe, 
any operator since you can send messages between the networks) and ask for 
what you want. 

Another option is to search for one of the protocol names: 
* CIMD 1.3 and CIMD 2.0 over IP
* SMPP 3.3 over IP
* UCP/EMI 2.0 over IP and serial
* SEMA SMS2000 OIS 4.0 and 5.0 over Radiopad and X.25


Peter


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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Text Messaging or AIM

2005-03-13 Thread Robert Hajime Lanning


> On Sun, 2005-03-13 at 11:14, Peter Svensson wrote:
>
>> Whatever gave you that idea? Most operators have an interface
>> allowing reception of sms:es over internet. The protocols may
>> be strange (they are) and the pricing models vary greatly, but
>> there are many receive interface to sms:es.
>
> I've been wondering about this for some time, is there a common
> product name for this service?

It's called http://www.Mblox.com/ :)

Well, I was talking about free (on the computer side) SMS generation
and reception.  Generation is easy, all providers (atleast in the
US) give an email->SMS gateway, or a website to post to.  Reception
is the problem.  That is why I was talking about using an IM service.

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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Text Messaging or AIM

2005-03-13 Thread Greg Hill
On Sun, 13 Mar 2005, Jess Coburn wrote:

> So you basically want an SMS or IM callback app right?
>
> One way to do this would be send an email to an address like
> ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) and have a cronjob query/pop this email
> address for your specific message and then when it finds it have it
> create a .call file to call you and connect you to whatever context
> you setup, etc.  Shouldn't be very hard at all.  This would allow for
> emails and I'm pretty sure every cell can send an email.

As an extension to that idea, if your asterisk host is also your email
host, the you could send mail to whatever user Asterisk runs as. Set up a
.forward file and use procmail etc to filter the message and
"authenticate" or validate the source (remembering that email is easily
spoofed, so don't let this gateway have access to anything terribly
sensitive), then create a .call file from there. This approach is nice
because it's asynchronous: as soon as the email arrives it'll be processed
and .call will be generated. The cron approach means that you'd have to
wait until the next job runs before any action will be taken, although if
your email doesn't get delivered in such a way that you can do scripting
in .forward, then it may be the only choice.

Greg


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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Text Messaging or AIM

2005-03-13 Thread Jess Coburn
So you basically want an SMS or IM callback app right?

One way to do this would be send an email to an address like
([EMAIL PROTECTED]) and have a cronjob query/pop this email
address for your specific message and then when it finds it have it
create a .call file to call you and connect you to whatever context
you setup, etc.  Shouldn't be very hard at all.  This would allow for
emails and I'm pretty sure every cell can send an email.

As for IM/AIM I'd just find a Perl AIM package (quick google returned:
http://search.cpan.org/~aryeh/Net-AIM-1.22/AIM.pm) and again it same
thing, if it gets a IM with the correct details in it, simply create a
.call file to call your cell. Again this too should be pretty easy to
setup.

Here's the link to creating .call files:
http://www.voip-info.org/wiki-Asterisk+auto-dial+out


Jess
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Text Messaging or AIM

2005-03-13 Thread C F
On Sun, 13 Mar 2005 20:14:46 +0100 (CET), Peter Svensson
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Sun, 13 Mar 2005, Robert Hajime Lanning wrote:
> 
> > There are SMS sending gateways out there, but they are sending
> > only, no way to receive.  This is fixed in the IM solution by
> > giving the "system" an account of its own.
> 
> Whatever gave you that idea? Most operators have an interface allowing
> reception of sms:es over internet. The protocols may be strange (they are)
> and the pricing models vary greatly, but there are many receive interface
> to sms:es.

Well, as far as I know there is no such service in the USA. Take in
mind that SMS is not so popular in the states, email is, and every
cell phone in the US that I have seen that supports SMS, supports SMS
to email from the phone as well. Just take a look at this:
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=569&ncid=738&e=1&u=/nm/20050313/tc_nm/column_pluggedin_dc
Most providers have an SMS to email gateway. To send a message to any
SprintPCS phone use: [EMAIL PROTECTED],
for Verizon use: [EMAIL PROTECTED] I don't know for
the others. There is also a problem that since Number Portability came
in last year there is no way of knowing which phone number belongs to
which provider.

> At least, there are in Europe and I cannot imagine the operators turning
> down another revenue generating service in the US.
> 
> Peter
> 
> 
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Text Messaging or AIM

2005-03-13 Thread Scheda
On Sun, 13 Mar 2005 13:25:10 -0600, Anton Krall
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> There is a program for linux called centericq, this program is for
> connecting a linux box to aim, icq, msn, etc something like trillian.
> Anyway, this centericq lets you define external commands that can run when
> you send it a message containing certain words. Also, you can define a
> "system" call in asterisk.
> 
> The way I see this is simple:
> 
> Install centericq on your linux box and get a nick for it so it will connect
> to all messengers as would a person. Then define on its external command
> file a keyword to create a .call file for asterisk. Then it is simple, just
> send a message via any messenger to your linux box and it will create the
> call file and asterisk will process it, thus, calling you. :)
> 
> How does that sound?



I'm really liking this idea. It sounds like exactly what I need. This
sounds like a "bot" in irc or the like... Basically I could set a
command such as /call to call me it seems. That would be exactly what
I need. Thank you a ton.
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Text Messaging or AIM

2005-03-13 Thread Matthew Asham
On Sun, 2005-03-13 at 11:14, Peter Svensson wrote:

> Whatever gave you that idea? Most operators have an interface allowing 
> reception of sms:es over internet. The protocols may be strange (they are) 
> and the pricing models vary greatly, but there are many receive interface 
> to sms:es.

I've been wondering about this for some time, is there a common product name 
for 
this service?  



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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Text Messaging or AIM

2005-03-13 Thread Eric Wieling
Peter Svensson wrote:
On Sun, 13 Mar 2005, Robert Hajime Lanning wrote:

There are SMS sending gateways out there, but they are sending
only, no way to receive.  This is fixed in the IM solution by
giving the "system" an account of its own.

Whatever gave you that idea? Most operators have an interface allowing 
reception of sms:es over internet. The protocols may be strange (they are) 
and the pricing models vary greatly, but there are many receive interface 
to sms:es.

At least, there are in Europe and I cannot imagine the operators turning 
down another revenue generating service in the US.
Every provider that I know of in the USA has an e-mail -> text message 
 feature.

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RE: [Asterisk-Users] Text Messaging or AIM

2005-03-13 Thread Anton Krall
There is a program for linux called centericq, this program is for
connecting a linux box to aim, icq, msn, etc something like trillian.
Anyway, this centericq lets you define external commands that can run when
you send it a message containing certain words. Also, you can define a
"system" call in asterisk. 

The way I see this is simple:

Install centericq on your linux box and get a nick for it so it will connect
to all messengers as would a person. Then define on its external command
file a keyword to create a .call file for asterisk. Then it is simple, just
send a message via any messenger to your linux box and it will create the
call file and asterisk will process it, thus, calling you. :)

How does that sound? 

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Domingo, 13 de Marzo de 2005 11:48 a.m.
To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion
Subject: [Asterisk-Users] Text Messaging or AIM

Does anyone know of a program/extention to asterisk that would allow me to
either text message my asterisk box or IM it from AIM on my cell phone to
allow it to call me? I've been looking with google yet can't find anything.
I don't code, so I'm SOL there, so I'm looking for something premade. I plan
on taking a class on perl during the fall semester at my local community
college, so if there isn't something like this out there already, maybe I
can get one out there.
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Text Messaging or AIM

2005-03-13 Thread Peter Svensson
On Sun, 13 Mar 2005, Robert Hajime Lanning wrote:

> There are SMS sending gateways out there, but they are sending
> only, no way to receive.  This is fixed in the IM solution by
> giving the "system" an account of its own.

Whatever gave you that idea? Most operators have an interface allowing 
reception of sms:es over internet. The protocols may be strange (they are) 
and the pricing models vary greatly, but there are many receive interface 
to sms:es.

At least, there are in Europe and I cannot imagine the operators turning 
down another revenue generating service in the US.

Peter


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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Text Messaging or AIM

2005-03-13 Thread Robert Hajime Lanning
That is if you have a local connection into an SMS network.
I have heard this is available on some European ISDN systems.

In the US, good luck. Outside of getting a GSM phone and
connecting it to your system via a serial port and some sort
of GSM SMS application.

Your best bet is an IM system.  I am looking into this for myself,
as IM access to things like Nagios and Asterisk.

I have an AIM client on my phone, so my plan is:
Jabber gateway to AIM
A Perl daemon to watch for incoming IMs and monitoring events to
generate outgoing IMs.  The daemon can then act on IMs coming
from my phone and do things like drop in a ".call" file.

You will need two AIM accounts, one for your phone/user access
and one for the daemon.

There are SMS sending gateways out there, but they are sending
only, no way to receive.  This is fixed in the IM solution by
giving the "system" an account of its own.


> I found what that was, http://ruk.ca/article/1832 is the link. Not
> exactly what I want, but I also found this.
>
> http://www.voip-info.org/wiki-Asterisk+cmd+Sms
>
> That seems to be what I want. I can send an SMS message, and then
> configure it to call me once it recieves it.


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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Text Messaging or AIM

2005-03-13 Thread Scheda
I found what that was, http://ruk.ca/article/1832 is the link. Not
exactly what I want, but I also found this.

http://www.voip-info.org/wiki-Asterisk+cmd+Sms

That seems to be what I want. I can send an SMS message, and then
configure it to call me once it recieves it.


On Sun, 13 Mar 2005 12:17:59 -0600, Me <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I think I saw something a while back that would allow Asterisk to check AIM
> to see if a user of an extension was in front of their desk or not then send
> to VMail or whatever.
> 
> This may be a start for you but I can't recall the name of it or where the
> info is.
> 
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> Sent: Sunday, March 13, 2005 11:47 AM
> Subject: [Asterisk-Users] Text Messaging or AIM
> 
> > Does anyone know of a program/extention to asterisk that would allow
> > me to either text message my asterisk box or IM it from AIM on my cell
> > phone to allow it to call me? I've been looking with google yet can't
> > find anything. I don't code, so I'm SOL there, so I'm looking for
> > something premade. I plan on taking a class on perl during the fall
> > semester at my local community college, so if there isn't something
> > like this out there already, maybe I can get one out there.
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Text Messaging or AIM

2005-03-13 Thread Me
I think I saw something a while back that would allow Asterisk to check AIM 
to see if a user of an extension was in front of their desk or not then send 
to VMail or whatever.

This may be a start for you but I can't recall the name of it or where the 
info is.

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Sent: Sunday, March 13, 2005 11:47 AM
Subject: [Asterisk-Users] Text Messaging or AIM


Does anyone know of a program/extention to asterisk that would allow
me to either text message my asterisk box or IM it from AIM on my cell
phone to allow it to call me? I've been looking with google yet can't
find anything. I don't code, so I'm SOL there, so I'm looking for
something premade. I plan on taking a class on perl during the fall
semester at my local community college, so if there isn't something
like this out there already, maybe I can get one out there.
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[Asterisk-Users] Text Messaging or AIM

2005-03-13 Thread Scheda
Does anyone know of a program/extention to asterisk that would allow
me to either text message my asterisk box or IM it from AIM on my cell
phone to allow it to call me? I've been looking with google yet can't
find anything. I don't code, so I'm SOL there, so I'm looking for
something premade. I plan on taking a class on perl during the fall
semester at my local community college, so if there isn't something
like this out there already, maybe I can get one out there.
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