Re: [asterisk-users] Trixbox or FreePBX or Elastix or PBX In a Flash

2012-07-10 Thread Tim Nelson
- Original Message -
 Thanks Tim.
 
 One of the problem that I am facing is the complicated generated
 configuration for the FreePBX, is it the same thing in the Elastix?
 
 To understand this complicated generated commands, is there a
 documentation to explain this for FreePBX or Elastix?
 
 
 One of my friend told me that he installed (as I remember) FreePBX
 and there were already existed the TFTP files that the Cisco IP
 Phones is requesting (for sip or skiny) and already there were a
 TFTP server. Which module to do this?
 

FreePBX (and any other project based on it, including Trixbox, Elastix, PIAF, 
AsteriskNow, etc) stores all information in a MySQL database, then when you 
click 'apply changes' it takes all of the system config info from the database, 
and generates the Asterisk dialplan code in /etc/asterisk . This is the 
tradeoff for having a magical GUI do most of the work, and doing everything by 
hand.

You can of course make your own changes that will not be overwritten by editing 
the appropriate *_custom.conf files. For example, to add contexts and/or 
dialplan stuff, put it in extensions_custom.conf. The same applies for 
sip_custom.conf, etc...

Most of the predone projects (Elastix is my favorite at the moment) include 
some sort of endpoint manager that will generate configs for your phones. I'm 
not sure specifically on Cisco phones, other than they are a huge PITA in 
general. The system just needs a TFTP server installed, and the phones pointed 
to it (manually, or by using DHCP option 66).

--Tim

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Re: [asterisk-users] Trixbox or FreePBX or Elastix or PBX In a Flash

2012-07-10 Thread Warren Selby
On Tue, Jul 10, 2012 at 12:39 PM, Tim Nelson tnel...@rockbochs.com wrote:

 Most of the predone projects (Elastix is my favorite at the moment)
 include some sort of endpoint manager that will generate configs for your
 phones. I'm not sure specifically on Cisco phones, other than they are a
 huge PITA in general. The system just needs a TFTP server installed, and
 the phones pointed to it (manually, or by using DHCP option 66).



Speaking from experience - I have a client that has Trixbox (setup by a
previous phone consultant) that also uses all 7960 and 7940 phones.
Trixbox works perfectly with the phones - it uses an endpoint manager that
automatically discovers and configures the phones, even setting the
background display.  I think it's a special add-on module that was added to
this installation, I'm not entirely sure.  I can check if you would like me
to pursue this?

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Re: [asterisk-users] Trixbox or FreePBX or Elastix or PBX In a Flash

2012-07-10 Thread Carlos Alvarez
I'm currently trying to decide on which GUI-enabled version of Asterisk to
use for one particular installation, where we will need good telecommuter
support.  We've made it so easy for people to work remotely that the
customer is downsizing their real estate and will have 90% remote workers
with them rotating through the office as needed.  So most phones in the
office will be shared, and I'm looking for a version of Asterisk that will
easily allow people to log in and out of a specific desk.  What are your
suggestions?  I have very little experience with GUI versions of Asterisk;
we use bare Asterisk for nearly everything.
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Re: [asterisk-users] Trixbox or FreePBX or Elastix or PBX In a Flash

2012-07-10 Thread Kevin P. Fleming

On 07/10/2012 01:42 PM, Carlos Alvarez wrote:

I'm currently trying to decide on which GUI-enabled version of Asterisk
to use for one particular installation, where we will need good
telecommuter support.  We've made it so easy for people to work remotely
that the customer is downsizing their real estate and will have 90%
remote workers with them rotating through the office as needed.  So most
phones in the office will be shared, and I'm looking for a version of
Asterisk that will easily allow people to log in and out of a specific
desk.  What are your suggestions?  I have very little experience with
GUI versions of Asterisk; we use bare Asterisk for nearly everything.


This can be done using Digium phones; they have built-in support for 
selecting which 'user' they should be when they are reconfigured. It's 
slightly more complicated than a simple login/logout because it requires 
rebooting the phone, but it's there and it works. They even support the 
case where a user has a phone at their house, but comes into the office 
and 'steals' their extension away from the house phone; the house phone 
will then go into an automatic reconfiguration state and wait for 
someone tell it which extension it should 'be'... when the user returns 
home, they can 'steal' the extension back from the office.


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Re: [asterisk-users] Trixbox or FreePBX or Elastix or PBX In a Flash

2012-07-10 Thread Tim Nelson
- Original Message - 

 I'm currently trying to decide on which GUI-enabled version of
 Asterisk to use for one particular installation, where we will need
 good telecommuter support. We've made it so easy for people to work
 remotely that the customer is downsizing their real estate and will
 have 90% remote workers with them rotating through the office as
 needed. So most phones in the office will be shared, and I'm looking
 for a version of Asterisk that will easily allow people to log in
 and out of a specific desk. What are your suggestions? I have very
 little experience with GUI versions of Asterisk; we use bare
 Asterisk for nearly everything.

Not to sound like a broken record or anything... but I'd say give Elastix a go. 
It is top notch in terms of release quality and features. And, being based on 
FreePBX, you can set it to 'Device and User' mode instead of the default 
extensions mode so users can 'hotdesk' between phones. 

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Re: [asterisk-users] Trixbox or FreePBX or Elastix or PBX In a Flash

2012-07-10 Thread Carlos Alvarez
On Tue, Jul 10, 2012 at 11:46 AM, Kevin P. Fleming kpflem...@digium.comwrote:

 This can be done using Digium phones; they have built-in support for
 selecting which 'user' they should be when they are reconfigured. It's
 slightly more complicated than a simple login/logout because it requires
 rebooting the phone, but it's there and it works. They even support the
 case where a user has a phone at their house, but comes into the office and
 'steals' their extension away from the house phone; the house phone will
 then go into an automatic reconfiguration state and wait for someone tell
 it which extension it should 'be'... when the user returns home, they can
 'steal' the extension back from the office.



Unfortunately, telling them to dump 50-some Polycom phones that still work
is a tough one.  Not impossible though.  So if I understand correctly, the
user reboots the phone when he arrives, and goes into the configure mode?
 Is it end user friendly, or complex?  I still don't have a server with the
Digium phone module on it to test.


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Re: [asterisk-users] Trixbox or FreePBX or Elastix or PBX In a Flash

2012-07-10 Thread Patrick Lists

On 10-07-12 20:42, Carlos Alvarez wrote:

I'm currently trying to decide on which GUI-enabled version of Asterisk
to use for one particular installation, where we will need good
telecommuter support.  We've made it so easy for people to work remotely
that the customer is downsizing their real estate and will have 90%
remote workers with them rotating through the office as needed.  So most
phones in the office will be shared, and I'm looking for a version of
Asterisk that will easily allow people to log in and out of a specific
desk.  What are your suggestions?  I have very little experience with
GUI versions of Asterisk; we use bare Asterisk for nearly everything.


Afaik development of the free Trixbox has stalled. Elastix is a popular 
alternative and iirc it comes with provisioning tools that work with 
Polycom. Or you could just install a bare Asterisk and slap FreePBX on 
top of it if you don't need all the fancy stuff that Elastix offers.


Regards,
Patrick

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Re: [asterisk-users] Trixbox or FreePBX or Elastix or PBX In a Flash

2012-07-10 Thread Kevin P. Fleming

On 07/10/2012 01:50 PM, Carlos Alvarez wrote:


On Tue, Jul 10, 2012 at 11:46 AM, Kevin P. Fleming kpflem...@digium.com
mailto:kpflem...@digium.com wrote:

This can be done using Digium phones; they have built-in support for
selecting which 'user' they should be when they are reconfigured.
It's slightly more complicated than a simple login/logout because it
requires rebooting the phone, but it's there and it works. They even
support the case where a user has a phone at their house, but comes
into the office and 'steals' their extension away from the house
phone; the house phone will then go into an automatic
reconfiguration state and wait for someone tell it which extension
it should 'be'... when the user returns home, they can 'steal' the
extension back from the office.


Unfortunately, telling them to dump 50-some Polycom phones that still
work is a tough one.  Not impossible though.  So if I understand
correctly, the user reboots the phone when he arrives, and goes into the
configure mode?  Is it end user friendly, or complex?  I still don't
have a server with the Digium phone module on it to test.


That's basically it, yes. I just did this on my D70:

* Press Menu, select Restart, press Yes.
* During the restart, while the progress bar is progressing, push a key. 
This results in 'Reconfiguration enabled' on the screen.
* When the server list appears, choose one (if there is only one server, 
this will be skipped).
* Choose a user from the user list and enter the PIN for it; 
alternatively, if a global PIN is required by the server, it will need 
to be entered before the user list will be displayed.

* Wait for the phone to configure itself.

This takes about 60 seconds.

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Re: [asterisk-users] Trixbox or FreePBX or Elastix or PBX In a Flash

2012-07-10 Thread Chris Bagnall

On 10/7/12 7:46 pm, Tim Nelson wrote:

Not to sound like a broken record or anything... but I'd say give Elastix a go. 
It is top notch in terms of release quality and features. And, being based on 
FreePBX, you can set it to 'Device and User' mode instead of the default 
extensions mode so users can 'hotdesk' between phones.


We have a number of deployments using the FPBX 'Device and User' mode in 
a similar manner to that the OP requested, and they seem to work fairly 
well.


On 10/7/12 7:58 pm, Patrick Lists wrote:

Or you could just install a bare Asterisk and slap FreePBX on
top of it


Personally, I'd go down this route, especially if you're already 
familiar with Linux (which I'm guessing you are if you're used to 
working with bare Asterisk). This way you can choose the distro you like 
best rather than having to adapt to whatever the all-in-one maintainer 
has chosen to use.


It also opens up options if you find you need to run other packages on 
the same server at any point.


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Re: [asterisk-users] Trixbox or FreePBX or Elastix or PBX In a Flash

2012-07-10 Thread Eric Wieling
Recent Polycom firmware versions (4.x, I think) also have support for user 
sort of stuff.  See the 4.x Admin Guide.

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To: asterisk-users@lists.digium.com
Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] Trixbox or FreePBX or Elastix or PBX In a Flash

On 07/10/2012 01:50 PM, Carlos Alvarez wrote:

 On Tue, Jul 10, 2012 at 11:46 AM, Kevin P. Fleming 
 kpflem...@digium.com mailto:kpflem...@digium.com wrote:

 This can be done using Digium phones; they have built-in support for
 selecting which 'user' they should be when they are reconfigured.
 It's slightly more complicated than a simple login/logout because it
 requires rebooting the phone, but it's there and it works. They even
 support the case where a user has a phone at their house, but comes
 into the office and 'steals' their extension away from the house
 phone; the house phone will then go into an automatic
 reconfiguration state and wait for someone tell it which extension
 it should 'be'... when the user returns home, they can 'steal' the
 extension back from the office.


 Unfortunately, telling them to dump 50-some Polycom phones that still 
 work is a tough one.  Not impossible though.  So if I understand 
 correctly, the user reboots the phone when he arrives, and goes into 
 the configure mode?  Is it end user friendly, or complex?  I still 
 don't have a server with the Digium phone module on it to test.

That's basically it, yes. I just did this on my D70:

* Press Menu, select Restart, press Yes.
* During the restart, while the progress bar is progressing, push a key. 
This results in 'Reconfiguration enabled' on the screen.
* When the server list appears, choose one (if there is only one server, this 
will be skipped).
* Choose a user from the user list and enter the PIN for it; alternatively, if 
a global PIN is required by the server, it will need to be entered before the 
user list will be displayed.
* Wait for the phone to configure itself.

This takes about 60 seconds.

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Re: [asterisk-users] Trixbox or FreePBX or Elastix or PBX In a Flash

2012-07-07 Thread bilal ghayyad
Thanks Tim.

One of the problem that I am facing is the complicated generated configuration 
for the FreePBX, is it the same thing in the Elastix?

To understand this complicated generated commands, is there a documentation to 
explain this for FreePBX or Elastix?


One of my friend told me that he installed (as I remember) FreePBX and there 
were already existed the TFTP files that the Cisco IP Phones is requesting (for 
sip or skiny) and already there were a TFTP server. Which module to do this?

Regards
Bilal

--
  Hi All;
  
  Based on what I have to use Trixbox or FreePBX?
  
  Can someone advise?
 
 Trixbox includes FreePBX as it's GUI. However, keep in mind
 it is a bastardized, forked version of FreePBX that has seen
 nary any new development or innovation in some time. At this
 point, for a standard PBX installation, my recommendations
 would be (in this order):
 
 1. Elastix
 3. AsteriskNOW
 2. PBX In a Flash
 
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[asterisk-users] Trixbox or FreePBX?

2012-07-06 Thread bilal ghayyad
Hi All;

Based on what I have to use Trixbox or FreePBX? 

Can someone advise?

Regards
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Re: [asterisk-users] Trixbox or FreePBX?

2012-07-06 Thread Tim Nelson
- Original Message -
 Hi All;
 
 Based on what I have to use Trixbox or FreePBX?
 
 Can someone advise?

Trixbox includes FreePBX as it's GUI. However, keep in mind it is a 
bastardized, forked version of FreePBX that has seen nary any new development 
or innovation in some time. At this point, for a standard PBX installation, my 
recommendations would be (in this order):

1. Elastix
3. AsteriskNOW
2. PBX In a Flash

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Re: [asterisk-users] Trixbox or FreePBX?

2012-07-06 Thread Satria Anamarta
Hi Tim,
How about AsteriskNow?

Thanks and BR,
Anam

On 7/7/12, Tim Nelson tnel...@rockbochs.com wrote:
 - Original Message -
 Hi All;

 Based on what I have to use Trixbox or FreePBX?

 Can someone advise?

 Trixbox includes FreePBX as it's GUI. However, keep in mind it is a
 bastardized, forked version of FreePBX that has seen nary any new
 development or innovation in some time. At this point, for a standard PBX
 installation, my recommendations would be (in this order):

 1. Elastix
 3. AsteriskNOW
 2. PBX In a Flash

 --Tim

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Re: [asterisk-users] Trixbox or FreePBX?

2012-07-06 Thread Tim Nelson
- Original Message -
 Hi Tim,
 How about AsteriskNow?
 
 Thanks and BR,
 Anam
 
 On 7/7/12, Tim Nelson tnel...@rockbochs.com wrote:
  - Original Message -
  Hi All;
 
  Based on what I have to use Trixbox or FreePBX?
 
  Can someone advise?
 
  Trixbox includes FreePBX as it's GUI. However, keep in mind it is a
  bastardized, forked version of FreePBX that has seen nary any new
  development or innovation in some time. At this point, for a
  standard PBX
  installation, my recommendations would be (in this order):
 
  1. Elastix
  3. AsteriskNOW
  2. PBX In a Flash
 

Did you read #2 above? Erm, wait, #3 I guess? The list is in proper order but 
apparently my ability to make a numbered list is somewhat lacking today. :)

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Re: [asterisk-users] Trixbox or FreePBX?

2012-07-06 Thread Satria Anamarta
Opss, sorry not read it carefully :((

On 7/7/12, Tim Nelson tnel...@rockbochs.com wrote:
 - Original Message -
 Hi Tim,
 How about AsteriskNow?

 Thanks and BR,
 Anam

 On 7/7/12, Tim Nelson tnel...@rockbochs.com wrote:
  - Original Message -
  Hi All;
 
  Based on what I have to use Trixbox or FreePBX?
 
  Can someone advise?
 
  Trixbox includes FreePBX as it's GUI. However, keep in mind it is a
  bastardized, forked version of FreePBX that has seen nary any new
  development or innovation in some time. At this point, for a
  standard PBX
  installation, my recommendations would be (in this order):
 
  1. Elastix
  3. AsteriskNOW
  2. PBX In a Flash
 

 Did you read #2 above? Erm, wait, #3 I guess? The list is in proper order
 but apparently my ability to make a numbered list is somewhat lacking today.
 :)

 --Tim

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