Re: [asterisk-users] Two phones fail to agree on codec, asterisk at fault?

2008-03-29 Thread Karsten Wemheuer
Hi Martin,
Am Freitag, den 28.03.2008, 14:27 +0100 schrieb martin f krafft:
 [...]
 So calls are going via an asterisk bridge and the symptoms of my
 problem are:
 
   1 if C450IP calls softphone, they can talk fine
   2 if softphone calls C450IP, voice only goes from C450IP to
 softphone, not the other way around.
 
 I traced this down to the session description protocol, where there
 is funky stuff going on with the supported codecs each peer
 announces. Remember, asterisk is between them, and I set
 disallow=all,allow=ulaw,allow=alaw in [global].

If this isn't a typo, use [general] instead of [global]. 

HTH,

Karsten



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Re: [asterisk-users] Two phones fail to agree on codec, asterisk at fault?

2008-03-29 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach Brent Davidson [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2008.03.28.2149 +0100]:
 With canreinvite=no you are forcing asterisk to remain in the call path.  
 As long as Asterisk is in the call path, it is supposed to be transcoding 
 the calls, so it doesn't care what the compatible codecs are between then 
 endpoints.  Each leg of the call is phone-asterisk so asterisk 
 negotiates a compatible codec set with each phone.

This seems incredibly silly. Asterisk could (*should*) just see if
it can find a common denominator between the two peers and thus
reduce its workload.

 If there is a codec difference between two legs of a call, it
 should be transcoding between them, unless you have that disabled
 somehow.  (A quick google and I don't see how to disable
 transcoding apart from limiting codecs.)

It doesn't. The Siemens definitely receives GSM packets.

 Now the other issue here is why Asterisk is offering GSM to the softphone 
 and g726 to the C450IP.  Try setting the allow and disallow settings for 
 each channel rather than in Global.  I tend to set things like codecs on a 
 per-device basis rather than in global.  Global settings have a bad habit 
 of being overridden.

I did this and now I cannot reproduce the problem. Gotta love * :)

Thanks, guys!

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[asterisk-users] Two phones fail to agree on codec, asterisk at fault?

2008-03-28 Thread martin f krafft
Hi list,

I am faced by a situation where I am trying to make a softphone and
a Siemens C450IP talk to each other. Both are hooked up directly to
the same asterisk, in the same IP net. 

  - a softphone runs on 192.168.14.3
  - the C450IP is at 192.168.14.30
  - asterisk runs on the machine known as 192.168.14.1

I am running Asterisk 1.4.11, backported to Debian Etch by Xorcom.

If I set canreinvite=yes for both, everything works. However, I have
reason to use canreinvite=no for both. But if I do, then the two
phones fail to agree on a codec.

So calls are going via an asterisk bridge and the symptoms of my
problem are:

  1 if C450IP calls softphone, they can talk fine
  2 if softphone calls C450IP, voice only goes from C450IP to
softphone, not the other way around.

I traced this down to the session description protocol, where there
is funky stuff going on with the supported codecs each peer
announces. Remember, asterisk is between them, and I set
disallow=all,allow=ulaw,allow=alaw in [global].

So in situation 1, when the C450IP calls the softphone, these codecs
are announced. 0 is ulaw, 8 is alaw, 111 is g726-32, 3 is gsm.

  C450IP to asterisk: 8, 0
  asterisk to softph: 8, 3, 0
  softph to asterisk: 8
  asterisk to C450IP: 8, 0

They both agree on 8 (alaw) and stuff is working, but it's already
curious how asterisk adds the 3 (GSM) in the second line and the
0 (ulaw) in the last.

In situation 2, no voice travels from the softphone to the C450IP,
and this is the dialog:

  softph to asterisk: 8, 0, 3
  asterisk to C450IP: 0, 8, 111
  C450IP to asterisk: 0
  asterisk to softph: 3, 0, 8

Again, notice how asterisk basically ignores what it was asked to
relay. In the end, the softphone settles for 3 (GSM) but the C450IP
chooses 0 (ulaw). Since the softphone has no problem decoding ulaw,
it can hear whatever the C450IP transmits, but it returns GSM
packets, which the C450IP can't decode, and therefore nothing comes
out of that phone.

What's going on here? From all I can tell, the clients do the right
thing, each selecting the first codec offered by asterisk (which
they support), but asterisk is going a bit lala here, isn't it?

First of all, why does it even bother with 3 and 111, given how
I disallowed them? And second, why does it *dare* to announce more
than what is available to the peer to which it relays?

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Re: [asterisk-users] Two phones fail to agree on codec, asterisk at fault?

2008-03-28 Thread Brent Davidson
With canreinvite=no you are forcing asterisk to remain in the call 
path.  As long as Asterisk is in the call path, it is supposed to be 
transcoding the calls, so it doesn't care what the compatible codecs are 
between then endpoints.  Each leg of the call is phone-asterisk so 
asterisk negotiates a compatible codec set with each phone.  If there is 
a codec difference between two legs of a call, it should be transcoding 
between them, unless you have that disabled somehow.  (A quick google 
and I don't see how to disable transcoding apart from limiting codecs.)


Now the other issue here is why Asterisk is offering GSM to the 
softphone and g726 to the C450IP.  Try setting the allow and disallow 
settings for each channel rather than in Global.  I tend to set things 
like codecs on a per-device basis rather than in global.  Global 
settings have a bad habit of being overridden.


Good luck,
Brent

martin f krafft wrote:

Hi list,

I am faced by a situation where I am trying to make a softphone and
a Siemens C450IP talk to each other. Both are hooked up directly to
the same asterisk, in the same IP net. 


  - a softphone runs on 192.168.14.3
  - the C450IP is at 192.168.14.30
  - asterisk runs on the machine known as 192.168.14.1

I am running Asterisk 1.4.11, backported to Debian Etch by Xorcom.

If I set canreinvite=yes for both, everything works. However, I have
reason to use canreinvite=no for both. But if I do, then the two
phones fail to agree on a codec.

So calls are going via an asterisk bridge and the symptoms of my
problem are:

  1 if C450IP calls softphone, they can talk fine
  2 if softphone calls C450IP, voice only goes from C450IP to
softphone, not the other way around.

I traced this down to the session description protocol, where there
is funky stuff going on with the supported codecs each peer
announces. Remember, asterisk is between them, and I set
disallow=all,allow=ulaw,allow=alaw in [global].

So in situation 1, when the C450IP calls the softphone, these codecs
are announced. 0 is ulaw, 8 is alaw, 111 is g726-32, 3 is gsm.

  C450IP to asterisk: 8, 0
  asterisk to softph: 8, 3, 0
  softph to asterisk: 8
  asterisk to C450IP: 8, 0

They both agree on 8 (alaw) and stuff is working, but it's already
curious how asterisk adds the 3 (GSM) in the second line and the
0 (ulaw) in the last.

In situation 2, no voice travels from the softphone to the C450IP,
and this is the dialog:

  softph to asterisk: 8, 0, 3
  asterisk to C450IP: 0, 8, 111
  C450IP to asterisk: 0
  asterisk to softph: 3, 0, 8

Again, notice how asterisk basically ignores what it was asked to
relay. In the end, the softphone settles for 3 (GSM) but the C450IP
chooses 0 (ulaw). Since the softphone has no problem decoding ulaw,
it can hear whatever the C450IP transmits, but it returns GSM
packets, which the C450IP can't decode, and therefore nothing comes
out of that phone.

What's going on here? From all I can tell, the clients do the right
thing, each selecting the first codec offered by asterisk (which
they support), but asterisk is going a bit lala here, isn't it?

First of all, why does it even bother with 3 and 111, given how
I disallowed them? And second, why does it *dare* to announce more
than what is available to the peer to which it relays?

  



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Re: [asterisk-users] Two phones fail to agree on codec, asterisk at fault?

2008-03-28 Thread Mojo with Horan Company, LLC
martin f krafft wrote:
 What's going on here? From all I can tell, the clients do the right
 thing, each selecting the first codec offered by asterisk (which
 they support), but asterisk is going a bit lala here, isn't it
I think Brent's on to it there -- as he suggested, get your allow= and 
disallow= statements in each [peer], rather than in [global] ;)

Moj

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