Re: [asterisk-users] UK ISDN-30 and ANI

[David Quinton]

On Fri, 13 Mar 2009 10:43:13 +, Julian Lyndon-Smith
 wrote:

>David Quinton wrote:
>> On Thu, 12 Mar 2009 10:21:06 +, Julian Lyndon-Smith
>>  wrote:
>>
>>   
>>> Has anyone in the UK got ANI to work on an inbound call ?
>>>
>>> Using asterisk 1.4 trunk and zaptel 1.4 trunk, with a Euro-ISDN 30
>>> 
>>
>>
>> AFAIK (and our E1 doesn't go to * box)
>> a)  you mean CLI
>>   
>a) No I don't. CLI is different to ANI
>> b) you have to pay BT extra for "Calling Line Identity Presentation"
>> GBP7.50 / qtr on our last bill
>>   
>See a). We already have CLI. I need ANI ;)


In that case I think you'll find that ANI isn't passed at all.

Good God - I asked much the same question as you 11 years ago!

(beware of the URL wrap)

HTH


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Re: [asterisk-users] UK ISDN-30 and ANI

[Grygoriy Dobrovolskyy]

2009/3/13 Andrew Thomas 

> I think I understand what you mean now.  The biggest difference between
> CLI and ANI is that ANI can't be blocked/withheld (like you can with CLI
> by using 141).  It also uses different signalling.  This is mainly used
> by law enforcement agencies to trace calls etc.
>
> So, you want the number - regardless of what the user dials.
>
> I presume you are some sort of 'carrier' then.  You'll be lucky to get
> the information otherwise as it throws up all sorts of privacy laws (ie.
> you have to have a damn good reason for wanting it).
>
> BT are the main people to ask I suppose (unless your calls go through
> another main carrier).
>
> I'm not even sure if ANI signalling is implemented in Asterisk - one for
> the config file writers ;).
>
> Cheers
>

I am sure of one thing that i can do a sip trunk with ANI  in our billing
system, not sure how it works, but the option is there ;)
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Re: [asterisk-users] UK ISDN-30 and ANI

[Andrew Thomas]

I think I understand what you mean now.  The biggest difference between
CLI and ANI is that ANI can't be blocked/withheld (like you can with CLI
by using 141).  It also uses different signalling.  This is mainly used
by law enforcement agencies to trace calls etc.

So, you want the number - regardless of what the user dials.

I presume you are some sort of 'carrier' then.  You'll be lucky to get
the information otherwise as it throws up all sorts of privacy laws (ie.
you have to have a damn good reason for wanting it).

BT are the main people to ask I suppose (unless your calls go through
another main carrier).

I'm not even sure if ANI signalling is implemented in Asterisk - one for
the config file writers ;).

Cheers


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-->>  >> Has anyone in the UK got ANI to work on an inbound call ?
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Re: [asterisk-users] UK ISDN-30 and ANI

[Steve Howes]

On 13 Mar 2009, at 10:43, Julian Lyndon-Smith wrote:
>  We already have CLI. I need ANI ;)

Why? Just out of interest.. If people withold CLI its usually for a  
reason..

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Re: [asterisk-users] UK ISDN-30 and ANI

[Julian Lyndon-Smith]

David Quinton wrote:
> On Thu, 12 Mar 2009 10:21:06 +, Julian Lyndon-Smith
>  wrote:
>
>   
>> Has anyone in the UK got ANI to work on an inbound call ?
>>
>> Using asterisk 1.4 trunk and zaptel 1.4 trunk, with a Euro-ISDN 30
>> 
>
>
> AFAIK (and our E1 doesn't go to * box)
> a)  you mean CLI
>   
a) No I don't. CLI is different to ANI
> b) you have to pay BT extra for "Calling Line Identity Presentation"
> GBP7.50 / qtr on our last bill
>   
See a). We already have CLI. I need ANI ;)
> HTH
>
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Re: [asterisk-users] UK ISDN-30 and ANI

[Julian Lyndon-Smith]

Hi Andrew

Andrew Thomas wrote:
> Please explain (in English) what you mean by ANI.
>   
http://www.tech-faq.com/ani-automatic-number-identification.shtml

Julian
> Thanks
>   
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Re: [asterisk-users] UK ISDN-30 and ANI

[Andrew Thomas]

Please explain (in English) what you mean by ANI.

Thanks


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Re: [asterisk-users] UK ISDN-30 and ANI

[David Quinton]

On Thu, 12 Mar 2009 10:21:06 +, Julian Lyndon-Smith
 wrote:

>Has anyone in the UK got ANI to work on an inbound call ?
>
>Using asterisk 1.4 trunk and zaptel 1.4 trunk, with a Euro-ISDN 30


AFAIK (and our E1 doesn't go to * box)
a)  you mean CLI
b) you have to pay BT extra for "Calling Line Identity Presentation"
GBP7.50 / qtr on our last bill

HTH


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Re: [asterisk-users] UK ISDN-30 and ANI

[Steve Totaro]

On Thu, Mar 12, 2009 at 2:07 PM, Steve Davies  wrote:

> 2009/3/12 Julian Lyndon-Smith :
> > Has anyone in the UK got ANI to work on an inbound call ?
> >
> > Using asterisk 1.4 trunk and zaptel 1.4 trunk, with a Euro-ISDN 30
> >
> > Julian
> >
>
> Have you asked the Telco to send the ANI data? AFAIK, this is disabled
> by default on all BT lines. I assume they are able to send it, but
> being BT they will probably want to charge you a monthly fee for it.
>
> It may be that if it is being sent, it is not being picked up by
> Asterisk - A "pri debug" dump might help you see what is being
> received.
>
> Regards,
> Steve
>
>
ANI is generally sent on toll free circuits by default since you are paying
the bill for inbound calls.

BT may do it, I am in the States and never used BT, but just bear in mind
that ANI can be spoofed similar to CallerID.

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Re: [asterisk-users] UK ISDN-30 and ANI

[Steve Davies]

2009/3/12 Julian Lyndon-Smith :
> Has anyone in the UK got ANI to work on an inbound call ?
>
> Using asterisk 1.4 trunk and zaptel 1.4 trunk, with a Euro-ISDN 30
>
> Julian
>

Have you asked the Telco to send the ANI data? AFAIK, this is disabled
by default on all BT lines. I assume they are able to send it, but
being BT they will probably want to charge you a monthly fee for it.

It may be that if it is being sent, it is not being picked up by
Asterisk - A "pri debug" dump might help you see what is being
received.

Regards,
Steve

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[asterisk-users] UK ISDN-30 and ANI

[Julian Lyndon-Smith]

Has anyone in the UK got ANI to work on an inbound call ?

Using asterisk 1.4 trunk and zaptel 1.4 trunk, with a Euro-ISDN 30

Julian

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