Re: [asterisk-users] When does Scalability requests Asterisk to U se SER ?
good stuff mate. a few clarifications: you had static extensions.conf, realtime sipusers, etc, right? Also, abt features like call fwding, etc, which one is better, performance wise, using a mysql db, or use Asterisk's internal DB(berkeley db, isnt it?using those DBput n DBget ops)??Anyone's got any figures for these? This somewot spoils the fun in Asterisk, when talking of performance, to query the DB for every call . Sort of pulls things down. Any comments or observations guys? - Ben. Ben, Yes, static extensions.conf, realtime everything else. A realtime dialplan never made much sense to me, as the dialplan shouldn't (in my humble opinion) be that fluid anyway, it should be fairly static. In terms of spoiling the fun and/or performance issues, let me note that in my current implementation we not only have options being queried but also realtime billing, permissions, limits, and carrier/trunk performance data, all being pulled and calculated via the database. I also have handy little timers returning the length of time it takes to do the processing from request receipt to dial, and I'm still currently under 1-2 seconds for entire call preparation including all the logic that goes along with checking all features, the current account's account status, balance and limits, AND all parent accounts in it's billing chain. I haven't done a head to head with the berkley DB, but I think part of the reason it's so fast is due to the highly normalized database structure, which allows for efficient query design. It's not all third form, but almost there :D. I'm in the last days of ALPHA now with my current project. Once we launch BETA, which will be a semi-public testing by invitation (Murph, you still going to participate?), I should be able to find a few minutes to outline the design. One other quick thing, the berkley DB doesn't allow for clustering either, MySQL does. Very nice to have your database distributed across multiple nodes, makes for an easier time designing the failovers :D Cheers, Sherwood ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] When does Scalability requests Asterisk to U se SER ?
I would like to know how you got Asterisk to function with 2500 SIP registrations. Did you have qualify enabled? Yes, qualify was enabled, using the standard length of qualification period between checks. Very few accounts had custom qualify settings. What about the 500 simultaneous calls? How many SQL hits were you doing (all said and done). Any performance logs from the SQL server? I can't believe you got all this running on one box! You have to remember, 500 simultaneous calls is not the same as something like 20 calls per second. some of those calls may have been quite long, and once the call's been placed, there's no database work being done until the call ends. I wish I had statistics from that setup, but I don't, we spent so much time implementing new features and chasing down problems caused by using a pre-RTA version of Asterisk with a patched in RTA setup. -- S McGowan VoIP Consultant [EMAIL PROTECTED] -BEGIN PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (MingW32) - WinPT 0.12.3 mQGiBETxLJERBACrFvzk3Hd8AO9aGCSSgoabp8GGS7jYhR1UP9zqYeJIHeH+/r/D sCL0mPUGX1+FnVlh5UAO0Q3hueCdtgbAhdqMJMDhjQ2Tm10kBWu2DjWrLVnGx0QD Id1XAiQ1WIJkE2VqphKD0WVMsyxj08w+o+DwjD+mu3GCgitRTVOB9OnzpwCg3Ynx BHlbNUzLTp+3oUuudndpaiEEAIlBCJoIg+zCTg4/kFjsWfSYo3kTwNoQPqqMINMe GM15CkRvXgUdMgJMPeEqXNmfnUUHNf/6KD2WpP5kJcBZdNWHicvS+A+P1Sjuybio 5XlJgMDW5tzCX0V45n+RgZQjHMg1wpcv0eVOMhmaSL4eC7MyUnZBHzuBYmgNMpiM EF2wA/4y+hhoZ2SYUzTWk4QUPL8yaHTNS/4/aH8AB5cyRNljqT5//AXzYF3AxMZX bslWy4MtzX9CI9Zg8hxIzcaYp/oeFSVrv6Or/8ZRQk2T+eB7ymPY6T+SOcKfTgR2 f9kzlxtPjRK/nXDovjaaOGl0U0NaPemB0w8fEuNkF4LxKdAea7QgUyBNY0dvd2Fu IDxydXNob3dyQHBocmVha2VyLm5ldD6IYAQTEQIAIAUCRPEskQIbAwYLCQgHAwIE FQIIAwQWAgMBAh4BAheAAAoJEJX0LL+xQYafrbQAoKFzcLsRIkXWL1wzldi2iG4l FHD/AKCguGXH7GtZKpQfFct6vQUOnJuUB7kCDQRE8SygEAgAlOYMwiFKPALEpi/X Cb3kTzpDqi9yvlijssnyxY2IxTYJHheE2dkITtdmgFlfud0lCLiSVhf8i9Y2YCar I+Djz7/LTlX4lhcDBeAaSHfDUtr5jTn3caK5A3inCAxoI7Um9Sy3fSyW9DMww2Mj t+ysQ2XuXpRZ984/3X79kNttae7L3FqASHjfflUFhBukxpSAn5evmkAnmZDhjy5a Z9Ut+DGDQOG2qvDTZM/RFDyodLIRoW9AK2O3A7CtVjZVOTSjDdhdOsHzsuBioh51 ngfUo4B3hDy+tv5qtzD5UjVj8g+oFqDpjo7mj7EwhD/AqHxg6yKqOtVLTmeEdZzW RMMGkwADBQgAjutKcj73K0GqhlKP3D3plXXBLOeAnoUBMoxbd7u7HigTXkTeq7gX c+zC6pu3atL1piRBOTYPiflf36hkph+EC9Zu7fBmaIdKRqltV9m+XB5l6Kw/C4go hTeLFI5A61GmiyQ5NPRpaeERGba+EoWswYIUxkCmr7I02DL8R72oLu6bb+bevCz5 d1AKrY2Vg3M8IXhGHPrYoFup6EYC6Thp2wRG4vBtpQStFbdYjXNBYmwWNERPzOzb k3pU8y96X7mqLHbv6gi5wapJyPidasc3VtU7RrwSEsYDoc2nf+6KzZMTT3rnB9RL gns2mcXM/4utmBWzSL7tnil5mlI9dynHQYhJBBgRAgAJBQJE8SygAhsMAAoJEJX0 LL+xQYafclwAnAmrmJpITi7ngFNR/obx/l6tNPRqAJ477VYqaBg58lc+TlGK1DoA HeMrow== =GJrg -END PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK- ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] When does Scalability requests Asterisk to U se SER ?
I would like to know how you got Asterisk to function with 2500 SIP registrations. Did you have qualify enabled? Yes, qualify was enabled, using the standard length of qualification period between checks. Very few accounts had custom qualify settings. What about the 500 simultaneous calls? How many SQL hits were you doing (all said and done). Any performance logs from the SQL server? I can't believe you got all this running on one box! You have to remember, 500 simultaneous calls is not the same as something like 20 calls per second. some of those calls may have been quite long, and once the call's been placed, there's no database work being done until the call ends. I wish I had statistics from that setup, but I don't, we spent so much time implementing new features and chasing down problems caused by using a pre-RTA version of Asterisk with a patched in RTA setup. -- S McGowan VoIP Consultant [EMAIL PROTECTED] S McGowan, I don't know if you missed my question (from the slew of questions you've received and answered), but I was wondering about transcoding and PSTN channels. What kind of codecs were used and was there any transcoding happening? Was this box only responsible for VoIP-to-VoIP calls or was there also PSTN trunks as well? Again, I'm amazed by this example since it seems to be way over what anyone else normally reports as usable. Thanks again, Ryan ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] When does Scalability requests Asterisk to U se SER ?
S McGowan, I don't know if you missed my question (from the slew of questions you've received and answered), but I was wondering about transcoding and PSTN channels. What kind of codecs were used and was there any transcoding happening? Was this box only responsible for VoIP-to-VoIP calls or was there also PSTN trunks as well? Again, I'm amazed by this example since it seems to be way over what anyone else normally reports as usable. Thanks again, Ryan Ryan, I answered, but for some reason this pop account tends to be strange... Anyway, we were not doing any transcoding and our PSTN connectivity was handled via a Tier 1 ISP that does SIP only PSTN connectivity solutions with G.711u. So, basically as far as Asterisk was concerned, there was SIP and RDP, that's all. ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] When does Scalability requests Asterisk to U se SER ?
Rushowr wrote: S McGowan, I don't know if you missed my question (from the slew of questions you've received and answered), but I was wondering about transcoding and PSTN channels. What kind of codecs were used and was there any transcoding happening? Was this box only responsible for VoIP-to-VoIP calls or was there also PSTN trunks as well? Again, I'm amazed by this example since it seems to be way over what anyone else normally reports as usable. Thanks again, Ryan Ryan, I answered, but for some reason this pop account tends to be strange... Anyway, we were not doing any transcoding and our PSTN connectivity was handled via a Tier 1 ISP that does SIP only PSTN connectivity solutions with G.711u. So, basically as far as Asterisk was concerned, there was SIP and RDP, that's all. So there was 2500 SIP registrations with qualify, 500 active calls with SIP and RTP, realtime, and CDR logging via MySQL (all on the same box)? What source changes did you make? What OS tweaks? -- Kristian Kielhofner ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] When does Scalability requests Asterisk to U se SER ?
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Again, I'm amazed by this example since it seems to be way over what anyone else normally reports as usable. Exactly! -- Kristian Kielhofner ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] When does Scalability requests Asterisk to U se SER ?
Hi Sheerwood, I unfortunately saw a bit of what I percieve to be an error in what you said. BerkeleyDB does in fact support replication across nodes - see: http://www.sleepycat.com/docs/ref/rep/intro.html- possibly you meant to say the version implemented in * does not support replication. If so, I do appoligise for beinga little pedantic.I have only just started to look at *'s code - so what I say further is with a great deal of hesitation when directly referenced to *. However, I work with both Berkely (on a programming level)and MySQL in a telecom (soft-switch) environment.In terms of performance (judged as speed), a comparison between MySQL and Berkeley would be like comparing a top of the range Mercedes to an F1 racing car. Overheads from MySQL come in the form of SQL translation, use of Sockets, etc... This is in addition to its size.Yet, the choice between the two, is a lot more complex, IMHO, than mereley thinking in terms of performance. And possible High Availability solutions, in their own rights, taking in to consideration that * will be workingin concert with numerous otherenvironments,programmes and requirments,are diverse enough to make each deployment a little unique - thereby making each option a potential liability.One rule of thumb for us has always been - if you need raw speed, and intend to deal with the data in a very restricted/rigid/"well defined"manner - opt for Berkeley. But if you want a great deal of fluidity, and intend, or may at some time intend,for that data to interact with other applications and potential requirements -Opt MySQL.It is possibly also best to work with what you feel most comfortable with first and then experiment to see if you may require the services of the other.ps. In terms of querying a DB for every call, I would presume that a DB is an active and fragilething and the provision of ACID ensures that everything that occurs with it does sowith a certain measure of safety. In fact, due to the random manner of requests, you will find it, in complete terms,actually performs a lot better than any other form of retrieval.Hope this, in some manner,helps Bayo Rushowr [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: good stuff mate. a few clarifications: you had static "extensions.conf", realtime "sipusers", etc, right? Also, abt features like call fwding, etc, which one is better, performance wise, using a mysql db, or use Asterisk's internal DB(berkeley db, isnt it?using those DBput n DBget ops)??Anyone's got any figures for these? This somewot spoils the fun in Asterisk, when talking of performance, to query the DB for every call . Sort of pulls things down. Any comments or observations guys? - Ben.Ben,Yes, static extensions.conf, realtime everything else. A realtimedialplan never made much sense to me, as the dialplan shouldn't (in myhumble opinion) be that fluid anyway, it should be fairly static.In terms of spoiling the fun and/or performance issues, let me note thatin my current implementation we not only have options being queried butalso realtime billing, permissions, limits, and carrier/trunkperformance data, all being pulled and calculated via the database. Ialso have handy little timers returning the length of time it takes todo the processing from request receipt to dial, and I'm still currentlyunder 1-2 seconds for entire call preparation including all the logicthat goes along with checking all features, the current account'saccount status, balance and limits, AND all parent accounts in it's"billing chain". I haven't done a head to head with the berkley DB, butI think part of the reason it's so fast is due to the highly normalizeddatabase structure, which allows for efficient query design. It's notall third form, but almost there :D.I'm in the last days of ALPHA now with my current project. Once welaunch BETA, which will be a semi-public testing by invitation (Murph,you still going to participate?), I should be able to find a few minutesto outline the design.One other quick thing, the berkley DB doesn't allow for clusteringeither, MySQL does. Very nice to have your database distributed acrossmultiple nodes, makes for an easier time designing the failovers :DCheers,Sherwood___--Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com --asterisk-users mailing listTo UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit:http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users Now you can scan emails quickly with a reading pane. Get the new Yahoo! Mail.___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] When does Scalability requests Asterisk to U se SER ?
On Wed, Sep 20, 2006 at 03:57:07PM +0100, adebayo omo-dare wrote: Hi Sheerwood, I unfortunately saw a bit of what I percieve to be an error in what you said. BerkeleyDB does in fact support replication across nodes - see: http://www.sleepycat.com/docs/ref/rep/intro.html - possibly you meant to say the version implemented in * does not support replication. If so, I do appoligise for being a little pedantic. The version in Asterisk is the last one before the relicense to the Sleepycat license. 1.86 (?), and not 4. -- Tzafrir Cohen sip:[EMAIL PROTECTED] icq#16849755 iax:[EMAIL PROTECTED] +972-50-7952406 jabber:[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.xorcom.com ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
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On Wed, Sep 20, 2006 at 10:26:25AM +0530, Benjamin Jacob wrote: This somewot spoils the fun in Asterisk, when talking of performance, to query the DB for every call . Sort of pulls things down. Any comments or observations guys? Well, my personal observation is that if you can't make your DBMS be about 6 orders of magnitude faster than your people, you're either not trying very hard... or you're trying to replicate a 5ESS-2000 using Asterisk, which is similarly silly. :-) Cheers, -- jra -- Jay R. Ashworth[EMAIL PROTECTED] Designer Baylink RFC 2100 Ashworth AssociatesThe Things I Think'87 e24 St Petersburg FL USA http://baylink.pitas.com +1 727 647 1274 That's women for you; you divorce them, and 10 years later, they stop having sex with you. -- Jennifer Crusie; _Fast_Women_ ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
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Kristian Kielhofner wrote: Rushowr wrote: S McGowan, I don't know if you missed my question (from the slew of questions you've received and answered), but I was wondering about transcoding and PSTN channels. What kind of codecs were used and was there any transcoding happening? Was this box only responsible for VoIP-to-VoIP calls or was there also PSTN trunks as well? Again, I'm amazed by this example since it seems to be way over what anyone else normally reports as usable. Thanks again, Ryan Ryan, I answered, but for some reason this pop account tends to be strange... Anyway, we were not doing any transcoding and our PSTN connectivity was handled via a Tier 1 ISP that does SIP only PSTN connectivity solutions with G.711u. So, basically as far as Asterisk was concerned, there was SIP and RDP, that's all. So there was 2500 SIP registrations with qualify, 500 active calls with SIP and RTP, realtime, and CDR logging via MySQL (all on the same box)? What source changes did you make? What OS tweaks? -- Kristian Kielhofner ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users None, literally. CentOS 4.3, Asterisk Trunk that was updated practically weekly, at least on the dev box. The production server wouldn't get recompiled unless a fix was in from trunk. Incidentally, I just doublechecked my numbers with my former co-worker. He confirms we had roughly the following numbers/setup: *2,500 registered SIP users, 95% being qualified by Asterisk *Max of 300 concurrent calls, with about half that on average (my mistake earlier with the 500 estimation) *Realtime SIP Users/Peers, Voicemail, and dialplan calls *Static extensions with MySQL queries for data retrieval/manipulation *NO Reinvites allowed due to the fact that most clients were residential behind NAT. Hardware: CPU:Dual 3Ghz XEON RAM:2GB RAM -- S McGowan VoIP Consultant [EMAIL PROTECTED] -BEGIN PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (MingW32) - WinPT 0.12.3 mQGiBETxLJERBACrFvzk3Hd8AO9aGCSSgoabp8GGS7jYhR1UP9zqYeJIHeH+/r/D sCL0mPUGX1+FnVlh5UAO0Q3hueCdtgbAhdqMJMDhjQ2Tm10kBWu2DjWrLVnGx0QD Id1XAiQ1WIJkE2VqphKD0WVMsyxj08w+o+DwjD+mu3GCgitRTVOB9OnzpwCg3Ynx BHlbNUzLTp+3oUuudndpaiEEAIlBCJoIg+zCTg4/kFjsWfSYo3kTwNoQPqqMINMe GM15CkRvXgUdMgJMPeEqXNmfnUUHNf/6KD2WpP5kJcBZdNWHicvS+A+P1Sjuybio 5XlJgMDW5tzCX0V45n+RgZQjHMg1wpcv0eVOMhmaSL4eC7MyUnZBHzuBYmgNMpiM EF2wA/4y+hhoZ2SYUzTWk4QUPL8yaHTNS/4/aH8AB5cyRNljqT5//AXzYF3AxMZX bslWy4MtzX9CI9Zg8hxIzcaYp/oeFSVrv6Or/8ZRQk2T+eB7ymPY6T+SOcKfTgR2 f9kzlxtPjRK/nXDovjaaOGl0U0NaPemB0w8fEuNkF4LxKdAea7QgUyBNY0dvd2Fu IDxydXNob3dyQHBocmVha2VyLm5ldD6IYAQTEQIAIAUCRPEskQIbAwYLCQgHAwIE FQIIAwQWAgMBAh4BAheAAAoJEJX0LL+xQYafrbQAoKFzcLsRIkXWL1wzldi2iG4l FHD/AKCguGXH7GtZKpQfFct6vQUOnJuUB7kCDQRE8SygEAgAlOYMwiFKPALEpi/X Cb3kTzpDqi9yvlijssnyxY2IxTYJHheE2dkITtdmgFlfud0lCLiSVhf8i9Y2YCar I+Djz7/LTlX4lhcDBeAaSHfDUtr5jTn3caK5A3inCAxoI7Um9Sy3fSyW9DMww2Mj t+ysQ2XuXpRZ984/3X79kNttae7L3FqASHjfflUFhBukxpSAn5evmkAnmZDhjy5a Z9Ut+DGDQOG2qvDTZM/RFDyodLIRoW9AK2O3A7CtVjZVOTSjDdhdOsHzsuBioh51 ngfUo4B3hDy+tv5qtzD5UjVj8g+oFqDpjo7mj7EwhD/AqHxg6yKqOtVLTmeEdZzW RMMGkwADBQgAjutKcj73K0GqhlKP3D3plXXBLOeAnoUBMoxbd7u7HigTXkTeq7gX c+zC6pu3atL1piRBOTYPiflf36hkph+EC9Zu7fBmaIdKRqltV9m+XB5l6Kw/C4go hTeLFI5A61GmiyQ5NPRpaeERGba+EoWswYIUxkCmr7I02DL8R72oLu6bb+bevCz5 d1AKrY2Vg3M8IXhGHPrYoFup6EYC6Thp2wRG4vBtpQStFbdYjXNBYmwWNERPzOzb k3pU8y96X7mqLHbv6gi5wapJyPidasc3VtU7RrwSEsYDoc2nf+6KzZMTT3rnB9RL gns2mcXM/4utmBWzSL7tnil5mlI9dynHQYhJBBgRAgAJBQJE8SygAhsMAAoJEJX0 LL+xQYafclwAnAmrmJpITi7ngFNR/obx/l6tNPRqAJ477VYqaBg58lc+TlGK1DoA HeMrow== =GJrg -END PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK- signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] When does Scalability requests Asterisk to U se SER ?
adebayo omo-dare wrote: Hi Sheerwood, I unfortunately saw a bit of what I percieve to be an error in what you said. BerkeleyDB does in fact support replication across nodes - see: http://www.sleepycat.com/docs/ref/rep/intro.html - possibly you meant to say the version implemented in * does not support replication. If so, I do appoligise for being a little pedantic. I have only just started to look at *'s code - so what I say further is with a great deal of hesitation when directly referenced to *. However, I work with both Berkely (on a programming level) and MySQL in a telecom (soft-switch) environment. In terms of performance (judged as speed), a comparison between MySQL and Berkeley would be like comparing a top of the range Mercedes to an F1 racing car. Overheads from MySQL come in the form of SQL translation, use of Sockets, etc... This is in addition to its size. Yet, the choice between the two, is a lot more complex, IMHO, than mereley thinking in terms of performance. And possible High Availability solutions, in their own rights, taking in to consideration that * will be working in concert with numerous other environments, programmes and requirments, are diverse enough to make each deployment a little unique - thereby making each option a potential liability. One rule of thumb for us has always been - if you need raw speed, and intend to deal with the data in a very restricted/rigid/well defined manner - opt for Berkeley. But if you want a great deal of fluidity, and intend, or may at some time intend, for that data to interact with other applications and potential requirements - Opt MySQL. It is possibly also best to work with what you feel most comfortable with first and then experiment to see if you may require the services of the other. ps. In terms of querying a DB for every call, I would presume that a DB is an active and fragile thing and the provision of ACID ensures that everything that occurs with it does so with a certain measure of safety. In fact, due to the random manner of requests, you will find it, in complete terms, actually performs a lot better than any other form of retrieval. Hope this, in some manner, helps Bayo Bayo, Thanks for your input! I was actually not aware that Berkley DB allowed replication. The primary reason for using MySQL (and PostgreSQL in some of my other projects) is the ease with which you can have the data used in other systems. Thanks again for your input :) signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] When does Scalability requests Asterisk to U se SER ?
Kristian Kielhofner wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Again, I'm amazed by this example since it seems to be way over what anyone else normally reports as usable. Exactly! -- Kristian Kielhofner ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users Well, first of all, how many people are attempting to run an entire ITSP off of Asterisk? Also, how many of those reports you refer to are SIP only? There's amazingly little system utilization when all you're doing is processing the call requests and logging CDRs? Past that, I can't say anything more to convince you all that this is true without sounding like I'm trying too hard for belief. I'd release the name of the ITSP (some of you may remember it anyway) that I used to work for, and once the one I currently work for goes ahead into public release I'll be more than glad to share the name. -- S McGowan VoIP Consultant [EMAIL PROTECTED] -BEGIN PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (MingW32) - WinPT 0.12.3 mQGiBETxLJERBACrFvzk3Hd8AO9aGCSSgoabp8GGS7jYhR1UP9zqYeJIHeH+/r/D sCL0mPUGX1+FnVlh5UAO0Q3hueCdtgbAhdqMJMDhjQ2Tm10kBWu2DjWrLVnGx0QD Id1XAiQ1WIJkE2VqphKD0WVMsyxj08w+o+DwjD+mu3GCgitRTVOB9OnzpwCg3Ynx BHlbNUzLTp+3oUuudndpaiEEAIlBCJoIg+zCTg4/kFjsWfSYo3kTwNoQPqqMINMe GM15CkRvXgUdMgJMPeEqXNmfnUUHNf/6KD2WpP5kJcBZdNWHicvS+A+P1Sjuybio 5XlJgMDW5tzCX0V45n+RgZQjHMg1wpcv0eVOMhmaSL4eC7MyUnZBHzuBYmgNMpiM EF2wA/4y+hhoZ2SYUzTWk4QUPL8yaHTNS/4/aH8AB5cyRNljqT5//AXzYF3AxMZX bslWy4MtzX9CI9Zg8hxIzcaYp/oeFSVrv6Or/8ZRQk2T+eB7ymPY6T+SOcKfTgR2 f9kzlxtPjRK/nXDovjaaOGl0U0NaPemB0w8fEuNkF4LxKdAea7QgUyBNY0dvd2Fu IDxydXNob3dyQHBocmVha2VyLm5ldD6IYAQTEQIAIAUCRPEskQIbAwYLCQgHAwIE FQIIAwQWAgMBAh4BAheAAAoJEJX0LL+xQYafrbQAoKFzcLsRIkXWL1wzldi2iG4l FHD/AKCguGXH7GtZKpQfFct6vQUOnJuUB7kCDQRE8SygEAgAlOYMwiFKPALEpi/X Cb3kTzpDqi9yvlijssnyxY2IxTYJHheE2dkITtdmgFlfud0lCLiSVhf8i9Y2YCar I+Djz7/LTlX4lhcDBeAaSHfDUtr5jTn3caK5A3inCAxoI7Um9Sy3fSyW9DMww2Mj t+ysQ2XuXpRZ984/3X79kNttae7L3FqASHjfflUFhBukxpSAn5evmkAnmZDhjy5a Z9Ut+DGDQOG2qvDTZM/RFDyodLIRoW9AK2O3A7CtVjZVOTSjDdhdOsHzsuBioh51 ngfUo4B3hDy+tv5qtzD5UjVj8g+oFqDpjo7mj7EwhD/AqHxg6yKqOtVLTmeEdZzW RMMGkwADBQgAjutKcj73K0GqhlKP3D3plXXBLOeAnoUBMoxbd7u7HigTXkTeq7gX c+zC6pu3atL1piRBOTYPiflf36hkph+EC9Zu7fBmaIdKRqltV9m+XB5l6Kw/C4go hTeLFI5A61GmiyQ5NPRpaeERGba+EoWswYIUxkCmr7I02DL8R72oLu6bb+bevCz5 d1AKrY2Vg3M8IXhGHPrYoFup6EYC6Thp2wRG4vBtpQStFbdYjXNBYmwWNERPzOzb k3pU8y96X7mqLHbv6gi5wapJyPidasc3VtU7RrwSEsYDoc2nf+6KzZMTT3rnB9RL gns2mcXM/4utmBWzSL7tnil5mlI9dynHQYhJBBgRAgAJBQJE8SygAhsMAAoJEJX0 LL+xQYafclwAnAmrmJpITi7ngFNR/obx/l6tNPRqAJ477VYqaBg58lc+TlGK1DoA HeMrow== =GJrg -END PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK- ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] When does Scalability requests Asterisk to U se SER ?
Rushowr wrote: ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users Date: Tue, 19 Sep 2006 05:52:52 -0500 Marco Mouta wrote: Hi all, I'm planing to develop a solution based on Asterisk for about 300 users. My question now is, do I really need to use openSER as the sip proxy and Asterisk for the PBX functions? Can i trust in a solution only with Asterisk to make all this install? Please help me with your experience on this kind of asterisk solutions. I've googled and read about asterisk at large scale solutions, but still in doubt. http://www.voip-info.org/wiki-Asterisk+at+large -- Com os melhores cumprimentos, Marco Mouta ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users In my experience, yes you can use *just* asterisk for the implementation of a large scale setup, you just better be sure you've planned it out well. I've set up a few large scale Asterisk implementations, covering more than 1K users on a single box. And that was in 2005 using trunk. There were problems, but all in all it was (and is, for the former client) not a bad implementation. If you're just looking at a large PBX install, you're definitely fine with a well planned system. Just my $0.02, not to be taken as a guarantee ;-) You mean, 1 K simultaneous calls? or 1 K registered users(yes yes. this is the one!!)??? ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] When does Scalability requests Asterisk to U se SER ?
Benjamin Jacob wrote: Rushowr wrote: ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users Date: Tue, 19 Sep 2006 05:52:52 -0500 Marco Mouta wrote: Hi all, I'm planing to develop a solution based on Asterisk for about 300 users. My question now is, do I really need to use openSER as the sip proxy and Asterisk for the PBX functions? Can i trust in a solution only with Asterisk to make all this install? Please help me with your experience on this kind of asterisk solutions. I've googled and read about asterisk at large scale solutions, but still in doubt. http://www.voip-info.org/wiki-Asterisk+at+large -- Com os melhores cumprimentos, Marco Mouta ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users In my experience, yes you can use *just* asterisk for the implementation of a large scale setup, you just better be sure you've planned it out well. I've set up a few large scale Asterisk implementations, covering more than 1K users on a single box. And that was in 2005 using trunk. There were problems, but all in all it was (and is, for the former client) not a bad implementation. If you're just looking at a large PBX install, you're definitely fine with a well planned system. Just my $0.02, not to be taken as a guarantee ;-) You mean, 1 K simultaneous calls? or 1 K registered users(yes yes. this is the one!!)??? ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users Sorry, should have been a little more specific. I've had Asterisk running realtime SIP users/peers and realtime sql calls from the dialplan (all with MySQL), and have had around 2.5k registered users and a peak (that I recall) of around 500 concurrent calls. -- S McGowan VoIP Consultant [EMAIL PROTECTED] -BEGIN PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (MingW32) - WinPT 0.12.3 mQGiBETxLJERBACrFvzk3Hd8AO9aGCSSgoabp8GGS7jYhR1UP9zqYeJIHeH+/r/D sCL0mPUGX1+FnVlh5UAO0Q3hueCdtgbAhdqMJMDhjQ2Tm10kBWu2DjWrLVnGx0QD Id1XAiQ1WIJkE2VqphKD0WVMsyxj08w+o+DwjD+mu3GCgitRTVOB9OnzpwCg3Ynx BHlbNUzLTp+3oUuudndpaiEEAIlBCJoIg+zCTg4/kFjsWfSYo3kTwNoQPqqMINMe GM15CkRvXgUdMgJMPeEqXNmfnUUHNf/6KD2WpP5kJcBZdNWHicvS+A+P1Sjuybio 5XlJgMDW5tzCX0V45n+RgZQjHMg1wpcv0eVOMhmaSL4eC7MyUnZBHzuBYmgNMpiM EF2wA/4y+hhoZ2SYUzTWk4QUPL8yaHTNS/4/aH8AB5cyRNljqT5//AXzYF3AxMZX bslWy4MtzX9CI9Zg8hxIzcaYp/oeFSVrv6Or/8ZRQk2T+eB7ymPY6T+SOcKfTgR2 f9kzlxtPjRK/nXDovjaaOGl0U0NaPemB0w8fEuNkF4LxKdAea7QgUyBNY0dvd2Fu IDxydXNob3dyQHBocmVha2VyLm5ldD6IYAQTEQIAIAUCRPEskQIbAwYLCQgHAwIE FQIIAwQWAgMBAh4BAheAAAoJEJX0LL+xQYafrbQAoKFzcLsRIkXWL1wzldi2iG4l FHD/AKCguGXH7GtZKpQfFct6vQUOnJuUB7kCDQRE8SygEAgAlOYMwiFKPALEpi/X Cb3kTzpDqi9yvlijssnyxY2IxTYJHheE2dkITtdmgFlfud0lCLiSVhf8i9Y2YCar I+Djz7/LTlX4lhcDBeAaSHfDUtr5jTn3caK5A3inCAxoI7Um9Sy3fSyW9DMww2Mj t+ysQ2XuXpRZ984/3X79kNttae7L3FqASHjfflUFhBukxpSAn5evmkAnmZDhjy5a Z9Ut+DGDQOG2qvDTZM/RFDyodLIRoW9AK2O3A7CtVjZVOTSjDdhdOsHzsuBioh51 ngfUo4B3hDy+tv5qtzD5UjVj8g+oFqDpjo7mj7EwhD/AqHxg6yKqOtVLTmeEdZzW RMMGkwADBQgAjutKcj73K0GqhlKP3D3plXXBLOeAnoUBMoxbd7u7HigTXkTeq7gX c+zC6pu3atL1piRBOTYPiflf36hkph+EC9Zu7fBmaIdKRqltV9m+XB5l6Kw/C4go hTeLFI5A61GmiyQ5NPRpaeERGba+EoWswYIUxkCmr7I02DL8R72oLu6bb+bevCz5 d1AKrY2Vg3M8IXhGHPrYoFup6EYC6Thp2wRG4vBtpQStFbdYjXNBYmwWNERPzOzb k3pU8y96X7mqLHbv6gi5wapJyPidasc3VtU7RrwSEsYDoc2nf+6KzZMTT3rnB9RL gns2mcXM/4utmBWzSL7tnil5mlI9dynHQYhJBBgRAgAJBQJE8SygAhsMAAoJEJX0 LL+xQYafclwAnAmrmJpITi7ngFNR/obx/l6tNPRqAJ477VYqaBg58lc+TlGK1DoA HeMrow== =GJrg -END PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK- signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] When does Scalability requests Asterisk to U se SER ?
Benjamin Jacob wrote: Rushowr wrote: ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users Date: Tue, 19 Sep 2006 05:52:52 -0500 Marco Mouta wrote: Hi all, I'm planing to develop a solution based on Asterisk for about 300 users. My question now is, do I really need to use openSER as the sip proxy and Asterisk for the PBX functions? Can i trust in a solution only with Asterisk to make all this install? Please help me with your experience on this kind of asterisk solutions. I've googled and read about asterisk at large scale solutions, but still in doubt. http://www.voip-info.org/wiki-Asterisk+at+large -- Com os melhores cumprimentos, Marco Mouta ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users In my experience, yes you can use *just* asterisk for the implementation of a large scale setup, you just better be sure you've planned it out well. I've set up a few large scale Asterisk implementations, covering more than 1K users on a single box. And that was in 2005 using trunk. There were problems, but all in all it was (and is, for the former client) not a bad implementation. If you're just looking at a large PBX install, you're definitely fine with a well planned system. Just my $0.02, not to be taken as a guarantee ;-) You mean, 1 K simultaneous calls? or 1 K registered users(yes yes. this is the one!!)??? ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users Sorry, should have been a little more specific. I've had Asterisk running realtime SIP users/peers and realtime sql calls from the dialplan (all with MySQL), and have had around 2.5k registered users and a peak (that I recall) of around 500 concurrent calls. -- S McGowan VoIP Consultant [EMAIL PROTECTED] Can you explain your design in a little more detail? What kind of hardware did you use to get over 1k users on a single box and 500 concurrent calls? Sounds like a very interesting medium-large scale implementation that others could learn from. thanks, Ryan ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] When does Scalability requests Asterisk to U se SER ?
Ryan wrote: Can you explain your design in a little more detail? What kind of hardware did you use to get over 1k users on a single box and 500 concurrent calls? Sounds like a very interesting medium-large scale implementation that others could learn from. thanks, Ryan I'll do the best I can from memory and without violating confidentiality :) The build was for a startup ITSP and was the first of that scale that either myself or my associate who worked for the client had done. The hardware was something along these lines, but I cannot be absolutely sure: 3Ghz Dual XEON CPU 1GB RAM 2 1Gb NICs I dont remember the hard drive specs at all, but that's more elementary anyway. We initially set up the systems with CentOS 4.2 or 4.3, can't remember. MySQL 4.x (latest 4.x version from summer 2005) Asterisk HEAD (constantly updating and recompiling, at the time the realtime arch wasn't fully in place) MySQL addons package Realtime SIP clients Statically configured SIP trunks, which provided our PSTN connections. I cannot disclose the company, but the trunk provider is/was extremely huge, a Tier 1 ISP. MySQL CDRs (the cdr addon) User options and feature controls accessed in realtime via a MySQL table designated for the purpose (basically an options table, with things like call_forward (y/n) columns). LOTS of custom monitoring done in regards to Asterisk status information Custom PHP/MySQL/Apache web interface for provisioning, configuration, and general administration written by yours truly, including polling Asterisk for the status of a client UA when that client's config is being viewed, provisioning (TFTP) handlers, etc... Hope this is a good start, anything else you want to know, I'll do my best. Also, once I finish my latest ITSP launch project, I'll be able to (hopefully) give a better example, one with failover, custom CDRs, custom LeastCost+BestPerformance routing, etc...etc... Even realtime billing, which the previous client didn't have, AND reseller support at the ITSP levelcan't say more yet, but it'll be rather huge I'm sure. -- S McGowan VoIP Consultant [EMAIL PROTECTED] -BEGIN PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (MingW32) - WinPT 0.12.3 mQGiBETxLJERBACrFvzk3Hd8AO9aGCSSgoabp8GGS7jYhR1UP9zqYeJIHeH+/r/D sCL0mPUGX1+FnVlh5UAO0Q3hueCdtgbAhdqMJMDhjQ2Tm10kBWu2DjWrLVnGx0QD Id1XAiQ1WIJkE2VqphKD0WVMsyxj08w+o+DwjD+mu3GCgitRTVOB9OnzpwCg3Ynx BHlbNUzLTp+3oUuudndpaiEEAIlBCJoIg+zCTg4/kFjsWfSYo3kTwNoQPqqMINMe GM15CkRvXgUdMgJMPeEqXNmfnUUHNf/6KD2WpP5kJcBZdNWHicvS+A+P1Sjuybio 5XlJgMDW5tzCX0V45n+RgZQjHMg1wpcv0eVOMhmaSL4eC7MyUnZBHzuBYmgNMpiM EF2wA/4y+hhoZ2SYUzTWk4QUPL8yaHTNS/4/aH8AB5cyRNljqT5//AXzYF3AxMZX bslWy4MtzX9CI9Zg8hxIzcaYp/oeFSVrv6Or/8ZRQk2T+eB7ymPY6T+SOcKfTgR2 f9kzlxtPjRK/nXDovjaaOGl0U0NaPemB0w8fEuNkF4LxKdAea7QgUyBNY0dvd2Fu IDxydXNob3dyQHBocmVha2VyLm5ldD6IYAQTEQIAIAUCRPEskQIbAwYLCQgHAwIE FQIIAwQWAgMBAh4BAheAAAoJEJX0LL+xQYafrbQAoKFzcLsRIkXWL1wzldi2iG4l FHD/AKCguGXH7GtZKpQfFct6vQUOnJuUB7kCDQRE8SygEAgAlOYMwiFKPALEpi/X Cb3kTzpDqi9yvlijssnyxY2IxTYJHheE2dkITtdmgFlfud0lCLiSVhf8i9Y2YCar I+Djz7/LTlX4lhcDBeAaSHfDUtr5jTn3caK5A3inCAxoI7Um9Sy3fSyW9DMww2Mj t+ysQ2XuXpRZ984/3X79kNttae7L3FqASHjfflUFhBukxpSAn5evmkAnmZDhjy5a Z9Ut+DGDQOG2qvDTZM/RFDyodLIRoW9AK2O3A7CtVjZVOTSjDdhdOsHzsuBioh51 ngfUo4B3hDy+tv5qtzD5UjVj8g+oFqDpjo7mj7EwhD/AqHxg6yKqOtVLTmeEdZzW RMMGkwADBQgAjutKcj73K0GqhlKP3D3plXXBLOeAnoUBMoxbd7u7HigTXkTeq7gX c+zC6pu3atL1piRBOTYPiflf36hkph+EC9Zu7fBmaIdKRqltV9m+XB5l6Kw/C4go hTeLFI5A61GmiyQ5NPRpaeERGba+EoWswYIUxkCmr7I02DL8R72oLu6bb+bevCz5 d1AKrY2Vg3M8IXhGHPrYoFup6EYC6Thp2wRG4vBtpQStFbdYjXNBYmwWNERPzOzb k3pU8y96X7mqLHbv6gi5wapJyPidasc3VtU7RrwSEsYDoc2nf+6KzZMTT3rnB9RL gns2mcXM/4utmBWzSL7tnil5mlI9dynHQYhJBBgRAgAJBQJE8SygAhsMAAoJEJX0 LL+xQYafclwAnAmrmJpITi7ngFNR/obx/l6tNPRqAJ477VYqaBg58lc+TlGK1DoA HeMrow== =GJrg -END PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK- signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] When does Scalability requests Asterisk to U se SER ?
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Can you explain your design in a little more detail? What kind of hardware did you use to get over 1k users on a single box and 500 concurrent calls? Sounds like a very interesting medium-large scale implementation that others could learn from. thanks, Ryan (NOTE: I sent the original reply about 3 hours ago and have not seen it post, so I'm resending. I apologize for any double receipts of the message.) I'll do the best I can from memory and without violating confidentiality :) The build was for a startup ITSP and was the first of that scale that either myself or my associate who worked for the client had done. The hardware was something along these lines, but I cannot be absolutely sure: 3Ghz Dual XEON CPU 1GB RAM 2 1Gb NICs I dont remember the hard drive specs at all, but that's more elementary anyway. We initially set up the systems with CentOS 4.2 or 4.3, can't remember. MySQL 4.x (latest 4.x version from summer 2005) Asterisk HEAD (constantly updating and recompiling, at the time the realtime arch wasn't fully in place) MySQL addons package Realtime SIP clients Statically configured SIP trunks, which provided our PSTN connections. I cannot disclose the company, but the trunk provider is/was extremely huge, a Tier 1 ISP. MySQL CDRs (the cdr addon) User options and feature controls accessed in realtime via a MySQL table designated for the purpose (basically an options table, with things like call_forward (y/n) columns). LOTS of custom monitoring done in regards to Asterisk status information Custom PHP/MySQL/Apache web interface for provisioning, configuration, and general administration written by yours truly, including polling Asterisk for the status of a client UA when that client's config is being viewed, provisioning (TFTP) handlers, etc... Hope this is a good start, anything else you want to know, I'll do my best. Also, once I finish my latest ITSP launch project, I'll be able to (hopefully) give a better example, one with failover, custom CDRs, custom LeastCost+BestPerformance routing, etc...etc... Even realtime billing, which the previous client didn't have, AND reseller support at the ITSP levelcan't say more yet, but it'll be rather huge I'm sure. -- S McGowan VoIP Consultant [EMAIL PROTECTED] -BEGIN PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (MingW32) - WinPT 0.12.3 mQGiBETxLJERBACrFvzk3Hd8AO9aGCSSgoabp8GGS7jYhR1UP9zqYeJIHeH+/r/D sCL0mPUGX1+FnVlh5UAO0Q3hueCdtgbAhdqMJMDhjQ2Tm10kBWu2DjWrLVnGx0QD Id1XAiQ1WIJkE2VqphKD0WVMsyxj08w+o+DwjD+mu3GCgitRTVOB9OnzpwCg3Ynx BHlbNUzLTp+3oUuudndpaiEEAIlBCJoIg+zCTg4/kFjsWfSYo3kTwNoQPqqMINMe GM15CkRvXgUdMgJMPeEqXNmfnUUHNf/6KD2WpP5kJcBZdNWHicvS+A+P1Sjuybio 5XlJgMDW5tzCX0V45n+RgZQjHMg1wpcv0eVOMhmaSL4eC7MyUnZBHzuBYmgNMpiM EF2wA/4y+hhoZ2SYUzTWk4QUPL8yaHTNS/4/aH8AB5cyRNljqT5//AXzYF3AxMZX bslWy4MtzX9CI9Zg8hxIzcaYp/oeFSVrv6Or/8ZRQk2T+eB7ymPY6T+SOcKfTgR2 f9kzlxtPjRK/nXDovjaaOGl0U0NaPemB0w8fEuNkF4LxKdAea7QgUyBNY0dvd2Fu IDxydXNob3dyQHBocmVha2VyLm5ldD6IYAQTEQIAIAUCRPEskQIbAwYLCQgHAwIE FQIIAwQWAgMBAh4BAheAAAoJEJX0LL+xQYafrbQAoKFzcLsRIkXWL1wzldi2iG4l FHD/AKCguGXH7GtZKpQfFct6vQUOnJuUB7kCDQRE8SygEAgAlOYMwiFKPALEpi/X Cb3kTzpDqi9yvlijssnyxY2IxTYJHheE2dkITtdmgFlfud0lCLiSVhf8i9Y2YCar I+Djz7/LTlX4lhcDBeAaSHfDUtr5jTn3caK5A3inCAxoI7Um9Sy3fSyW9DMww2Mj t+ysQ2XuXpRZ984/3X79kNttae7L3FqASHjfflUFhBukxpSAn5evmkAnmZDhjy5a Z9Ut+DGDQOG2qvDTZM/RFDyodLIRoW9AK2O3A7CtVjZVOTSjDdhdOsHzsuBioh51 ngfUo4B3hDy+tv5qtzD5UjVj8g+oFqDpjo7mj7EwhD/AqHxg6yKqOtVLTmeEdZzW RMMGkwADBQgAjutKcj73K0GqhlKP3D3plXXBLOeAnoUBMoxbd7u7HigTXkTeq7gX c+zC6pu3atL1piRBOTYPiflf36hkph+EC9Zu7fBmaIdKRqltV9m+XB5l6Kw/C4go hTeLFI5A61GmiyQ5NPRpaeERGba+EoWswYIUxkCmr7I02DL8R72oLu6bb+bevCz5 d1AKrY2Vg3M8IXhGHPrYoFup6EYC6Thp2wRG4vBtpQStFbdYjXNBYmwWNERPzOzb k3pU8y96X7mqLHbv6gi5wapJyPidasc3VtU7RrwSEsYDoc2nf+6KzZMTT3rnB9RL gns2mcXM/4utmBWzSL7tnil5mlI9dynHQYhJBBgRAgAJBQJE8SygAhsMAAoJEJX0 LL+xQYafclwAnAmrmJpITi7ngFNR/obx/l6tNPRqAJ477VYqaBg58lc+TlGK1DoA HeMrow== =GJrg -END PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK- signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] When does Scalability requests Asterisk to U se SER ?
Rushowr wrote: ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users Date: Tue, 19 Sep 2006 23:30:06 -0500 Ryan wrote: Can you explain your design in a little more detail? What kind of hardware did you use to get over 1k users on a single box and 500 concurrent calls? Sounds like a very interesting medium-large scale implementation that others could learn from. thanks, Ryan I'll do the best I can from memory and without violating confidentiality :) The build was for a startup ITSP and was the first of that scale that either myself or my associate who worked for the client had done. The hardware was something along these lines, but I cannot be absolutely sure: 3Ghz Dual XEON CPU 1GB RAM 2 1Gb NICs I dont remember the hard drive specs at all, but that's more elementary anyway. We initially set up the systems with CentOS 4.2 or 4.3, can't remember. MySQL 4.x (latest 4.x version from summer 2005) Asterisk HEAD (constantly updating and recompiling, at the time the realtime arch wasn't fully in place) MySQL addons package Realtime SIP clients Statically configured SIP trunks, which provided our PSTN connections. I cannot disclose the company, but the trunk provider is/was extremely huge, a Tier 1 ISP. MySQL CDRs (the cdr addon) User options and feature controls accessed in realtime via a MySQL table designated for the purpose (basically an options table, with things like call_forward (y/n) columns). LOTS of custom monitoring done in regards to Asterisk status information Custom PHP/MySQL/Apache web interface for provisioning, configuration, and general administration written by yours truly, including polling Asterisk for the status of a client UA when that client's config is being viewed, provisioning (TFTP) handlers, etc... Hope this is a good start, anything else you want to know, I'll do my best. Also, once I finish my latest ITSP launch project, I'll be able to (hopefully) give a better example, one with failover, custom CDRs, custom LeastCost+BestPerformance routing, etc...etc... Even realtime billing, which the previous client didn't have, AND reseller support at the ITSP levelcan't say more yet, but it'll be rather huge I'm sure. good stuff mate. a few clarifications: you had static extensions.conf, realtime sipusers, etc, right? Also, abt features like call fwding, etc, which one is better, performance wise, using a mysql db, or use Asterisk's internal DB(berkeley db, isnt it?using those DBput n DBget ops)??Anyone's got any figures for these? This somewot spoils the fun in Asterisk, when talking of performance, to query the DB for every call . Sort of pulls things down. Any comments or observations guys? - Ben. ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] When does Scalability requests Asterisk to U se SER ?
Benjamin Jacob wrote: Rushowr wrote: ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users Date: Tue, 19 Sep 2006 23:30:06 -0500 Ryan wrote: Can you explain your design in a little more detail? What kind of hardware did you use to get over 1k users on a single box and 500 concurrent calls? Sounds like a very interesting medium-large scale implementation that others could learn from. thanks, Ryan I'll do the best I can from memory and without violating confidentiality :) The build was for a startup ITSP and was the first of that scale that either myself or my associate who worked for the client had done. The hardware was something along these lines, but I cannot be absolutely sure: 3Ghz Dual XEON CPU 1GB RAM 2 1Gb NICs I dont remember the hard drive specs at all, but that's more elementary anyway. We initially set up the systems with CentOS 4.2 or 4.3, can't remember. MySQL 4.x (latest 4.x version from summer 2005) Asterisk HEAD (constantly updating and recompiling, at the time the realtime arch wasn't fully in place) MySQL addons package Realtime SIP clients Statically configured SIP trunks, which provided our PSTN connections. I cannot disclose the company, but the trunk provider is/was extremely huge, a Tier 1 ISP. MySQL CDRs (the cdr addon) User options and feature controls accessed in realtime via a MySQL table designated for the purpose (basically an options table, with things like call_forward (y/n) columns). LOTS of custom monitoring done in regards to Asterisk status information Custom PHP/MySQL/Apache web interface for provisioning, configuration, and general administration written by yours truly, including polling Asterisk for the status of a client UA when that client's config is being viewed, provisioning (TFTP) handlers, etc... Hope this is a good start, anything else you want to know, I'll do my best. Also, once I finish my latest ITSP launch project, I'll be able to (hopefully) give a better example, one with failover, custom CDRs, custom LeastCost+BestPerformance routing, etc...etc... Even realtime billing, which the previous client didn't have, AND reseller support at the ITSP levelcan't say more yet, but it'll be rather huge I'm sure. good stuff mate. a few clarifications: you had static extensions.conf, realtime sipusers, etc, right? Also, abt features like call fwding, etc, which one is better, performance wise, using a mysql db, or use Asterisk's internal DB(berkeley db, isnt it?using those DBput n DBget ops)??Anyone's got any figures for these? This somewot spoils the fun in Asterisk, when talking of performance, to query the DB for every call . Sort of pulls things down. Any comments or observations guys? - Ben. I would like to know how you got Asterisk to function with 2500 SIP registrations. Did you have qualify enabled? What about the 500 simultaneous calls? How many SQL hits were you doing (all said and done). Any performance logs from the SQL server? I can't believe you got all this running on one box! -- Kristian Kielhofner ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] When does Scalability requests Asterisk to U se SER ?
Kristian Kielhofner wrote: Benjamin Jacob wrote: Rushowr wrote: ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users Date: Tue, 19 Sep 2006 23:30:06 -0500 Ryan wrote: Can you explain your design in a little more detail? What kind of hardware did you use to get over 1k users on a single box and 500 concurrent calls? Sounds like a very interesting medium-large scale implementation that others could learn from. thanks, Ryan I'll do the best I can from memory and without violating confidentiality :) The build was for a startup ITSP and was the first of that scale that either myself or my associate who worked for the client had done. The hardware was something along these lines, but I cannot be absolutely sure: 3Ghz Dual XEON CPU 1GB RAM 2 1Gb NICs I dont remember the hard drive specs at all, but that's more elementary anyway. We initially set up the systems with CentOS 4.2 or 4.3, can't remember. MySQL 4.x (latest 4.x version from summer 2005) Asterisk HEAD (constantly updating and recompiling, at the time the realtime arch wasn't fully in place) MySQL addons package Realtime SIP clients Statically configured SIP trunks, which provided our PSTN connections. I cannot disclose the company, but the trunk provider is/was extremely huge, a Tier 1 ISP. MySQL CDRs (the cdr addon) User options and feature controls accessed in realtime via a MySQL table designated for the purpose (basically an options table, with things like call_forward (y/n) columns). LOTS of custom monitoring done in regards to Asterisk status information Custom PHP/MySQL/Apache web interface for provisioning, configuration, and general administration written by yours truly, including polling Asterisk for the status of a client UA when that client's config is being viewed, provisioning (TFTP) handlers, etc... Hope this is a good start, anything else you want to know, I'll do my best. Also, once I finish my latest ITSP launch project, I'll be able to (hopefully) give a better example, one with failover, custom CDRs, custom LeastCost+BestPerformance routing, etc...etc... Even realtime billing, which the previous client didn't have, AND reseller support at the ITSP levelcan't say more yet, but it'll be rather huge I'm sure. good stuff mate. a few clarifications: you had static extensions.conf, realtime sipusers, etc, right? Also, abt features like call fwding, etc, which one is better, performance wise, using a mysql db, or use Asterisk's internal DB(berkeley db, isnt it?using those DBput n DBget ops)??Anyone's got any figures for these? This somewot spoils the fun in Asterisk, when talking of performance, to query the DB for every call . Sort of pulls things down. Any comments or observations guys? - Ben. I would like to know how you got Asterisk to function with 2500 SIP registrations. Did you have qualify enabled? What about the 500 simultaneous calls? How many SQL hits were you doing (all said and done). Any performance logs from the SQL server? I can't believe you got all this running on one box! lol... Rushowr(or S McGowan)... donno abt the SQL hits, but u urself being hit with a lot of questions!! the price one has to pay for knowing things!! ;-) tuff being a guru!! ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
