Re: [asterisk-users] Which IP phones have best voice quality, preferably under $150
On 1 Nov 2006, at 20:28, Zeeshan Zakaria wrote: I think I will agree with folks here, it must be something else on the network, not the phones themselves. I am not going to replace all of the phones, its too expensive, but for trial, want to try something better. PoE is also important to me at this point. I am thinking of trying Linksys 942. I was thinking of Polycom, but there its LCD is not backlit. I keep all LCDs backlit so that is important for me. As for good Aastra phones, there in no external power adapter. Snoms are expensive. Take a look at elmeg - they make last years snoms under license but are quite a bit cheaper - I'm not sure if they have a PoE version. Tim Panton www.mexuar.com ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Which IP phones have best voice quality, preferably under $150
Switching is what you want. NAT is Network Address Translation that allows the router to map IP addresses between router interfaces. You may wish to verify that all of the ports on your network, if automatically negotiated, did what you want. Probably, 100Mb, Full-Duplex. If not then force the config. Improper negotiation tends to drop packets. Everything appears to work, but slowly. Depending on your network infrastructure, you may also look into QOS. Bob... On Wed, 2006-11-01 at 16:15 -0500, Zeeshan Zakaria wrote: All the phones already have the latest firmware. They keep updating themselves automatically. In my setup of Grandstream phones, all the computers of the network go through the phones, i.e. I am using the builtin phones as swithces. They all have 2 ethernet ports. Does this has to do anything with the voice quality, or do I need to change something in the phones' setup, like switching it from switch to router in basic settings? What is this NAT/Router setting anyways and how should it be setup? ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
[asterisk-users] Which IP phones have best voice quality, preferably under $150
Hi all, I have to buy some IP phones. Previously I have used Grandstream GXP-2000, Budgetone 101 andLinksys SPA-841. I always had problems with sound quality with all of them, and I was always of the opinion that it were the phones which were not good. In GXP-2000 deployment of about 50 phones, some work good, some have sound problems like words missing, clicking sounds when talking, and some don't work at all (probably defective). What good phone are out there which will work perfectly and will not be expensive. Should be $150 or maximum $200.-- Zeeshan A Zakaria ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Which IP phones have best voice quality, preferably under $150
Zeeshan Zakaria wrote: Hi all, I have to buy some IP phones. Previously I have used Grandstream GXP-2000, Budgetone 101 and Linksys SPA-841. I always had problems with sound quality with all of them, and I was always of the opinion that it were the phones which were not good. In GXP-2000 deployment of about 50 phones, some work good, some have sound problems like words missing, clicking sounds when talking, and some don't work at all (probably defective). What good phone are out there which will work perfectly and will not be expensive. Should be $150 or maximum $200. -- Zeeshan A Zakaria Zeeshan, Anything from Polycom - IP 301, IP 430. -- Kristian Kielhofner ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
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I'd recommend any of the following, which are all in your price range Snom 300 Polycom IP430 Polycom IP501 Aastra 9112i Linksys SPA-922 Grandstream GXP-2000 Cory Andrews From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Zeeshan ZakariaSent: Wednesday, November 01, 2006 11:17 AMTo: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial DiscussionSubject: [SPAM HEADER] - [asterisk-users] Which IP phones have best voice quality,preferably under $150 - Email found in subject Hi all, I have to buy some IP phones. Previously I have used Grandstream GXP-2000, Budgetone 101 andLinksys SPA-841. I always had problems with sound quality with all of them, and I was always of the opinion that it were the phones which were not good. In GXP-2000 deployment of about 50 phones, some work good, some have sound problems like words missing, clicking sounds when talking, and some don't work at all (probably defective). What good phone are out there which will work perfectly and will not be expensive. Should be $150 or maximum $200.-- Zeeshan A Zakaria ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Which IP phones have best voice quality, preferably under $150
The quality issues you describe may not be the fault of the individual phones! The quality of the PSTN connection, and the hardware through which it's connected can play as big a part in this scenario. The quality of the internal network with 50 IP Phones could also be part of the problem. It sounds like cost is a leading factor in purchasing decisions, so if the same factors applied to building wiring and network equipment, you could have much bigger problems than just the quality of the individual phone sets. Has there been a network study using tools such as Qcheck to determine whether the LAN is capable of handling 50 IP phones? What about the server on which Asterisk is running? Again, with cost being a factor, is this server capable of supporting the load? Does it have sufficient memory and capacity to run efficiently? I would evaluate my infrastructure before I spent more money replacing 50 phones. I certainly wouldn't want to be in front of the boss's desk trying to explain why we spent all this money on new phones and the voice quality still sucks! Good luck! Zeeshan Zakaria wrote: Hi all, I have to buy some IP phones. Previously I have used Grandstream GXP-2000, Budgetone 101 and Linksys SPA-841. I always had problems with sound quality with all of them, and I was always of the opinion that it were the phones which were not good. In GXP-2000 deployment of about 50 phones, some work good, some have sound problems like words missing, clicking sounds when talking, and some don't work at all (probably defective). What good phone are out there which will work perfectly and will not be expensive. Should be $150 or maximum $200. -- Zeeshan A Zakaria ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Which IP phones have best voice quality, preferably under $150
Zeeshan Zakaria wrote: Hi all, I have to buy some IP phones. Previously I have used Grandstream GXP-2000, Budgetone 101 and Linksys SPA-841. I always had problems with sound quality with all of them, and I was always of the opinion that it were the phones which were not good. In GXP-2000 deployment of about 50 phones, some work good, some have sound problems like words missing, clicking sounds when talking, and some don't work at all (probably defective). What good phone are out there which will work perfectly and will not be expensive. Should be $150 or maximum $200. The total cost for Cisco phones is fairly high. The phones can be found for about the same price as Polycoms, but if you want to be LEGAL, the SIP firmware can cost over $100. If you do not want to be legal, then you can get the firmware for under $20. Cisco phones generally support PoE. I recommend Polycom phones. You can find them for well under $200, they include SIP firmware. PoE adapters can be purchased for $20 - $40 each if you need PoE. Polycom does not provide firmware to end users, you need to get it from the place you bought your Polycom from. There is at least one web site that you can get greymarket firmware for Polycom phones. Polycom SoundPoint 301 has a low quality display, no handsfree microphone (for speakerphone). But it works just fine as a basic phone. People have said that the 301's sound quality is less than the other Polycom phones. You can also get the 430, which is supposed to have a handsfree microphone and a better display. I've not used them. Also look at the 501s for a higher end phone. You should be able to get the 301s for well under $150 (I've heard people say they have gotten the 301s for $120) and the 501s for well under $200. I assume the 430s are somewhere in between. ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
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snom 300 : CS -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Im Auftrag von Kristian Kielhofner Gesendet: Mittwoch, 1. November 2006 12:01 An: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion Betreff: Re: [asterisk-users] Which IP phones have best voice quality,preferably under $150 Zeeshan Zakaria wrote: Hi all, I have to buy some IP phones. Previously I have used Grandstream GXP-2000, Budgetone 101 and Linksys SPA-841. I always had problems with sound quality with all of them, and I was always of the opinion that it were the phones which were not good. In GXP-2000 deployment of about 50 phones, some work good, some have sound problems like words missing, clicking sounds when talking, and some don't work at all (probably defective). What good phone are out there which will work perfectly and will not be expensive. Should be $150 or maximum $200. -- Zeeshan A Zakaria Zeeshan, Anything from Polycom - IP 301, IP 430. -- Kristian Kielhofner ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
RE: [asterisk-users] Which IP phones have best voice quality, preferably under $150
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Re: [asterisk-users] Which IP phones have best voice quality, preferably under $150
I have the Budgetone 101 and GXP2000 and thought the sound quality was excellent. Even over the internet... I agree with Joe that something else may be the factor... Todd Zeeshan Zakaria wrote: Hi all, I have to buy some IP phones. Previously I have used Grandstream GXP-2000, Budgetone 101 and Linksys SPA-841. I always had problems with sound quality with all of them, and I was always of the opinion that it were the phones which were not good. In GXP-2000 deployment of about 50 phones, some work good, some have sound problems like words missing, clicking sounds when talking, and some don't work at all (probably defective). What good phone are out there which will work perfectly and will not be expensive. Should be $150 or maximum $200. -- Zeeshan A Zakaria ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Which IP phones have best voice quality, preferably under $150
I strongly recommend you upgarde to the latest firmware for the GXP 2000. I have been using them for almost a year now and while the early firmware was poor they are now very stable and working fine (from 1.1.1.9) onwards. Henry L.Coleman CEO *VoIP-PBX* 1-866-415-5355 Toronto Ontario Canada Hi all, I have to buy some IP phones. Previously I have used Grandstream GXP-2000, Budgetone 101 and Linksys SPA-841. I always had problems with sound quality with all of them, and I was always of the opinion that it were the phones which were not good. In GXP-2000 deployment of about 50 phones, some work good, some have sound problems like words missing, clicking sounds when talking, and some don't work at all (probably defective). What good phone are out there which will work perfectly and will not be expensive. Should be $150 or maximum $200. -- Zeeshan A Zakaria ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Which IP phones have best voice quality, preferably under $150
I think I will agree with folks here, it must be something else on the network, not the phones themselves. I am not going to replace all of the phones, its too expensive, but for trial, want to try something better. PoE is also important to me at this point. I am thinking of trying Linksys 942. I was thinking of Polycom, but there its LCD is not backlit. I keep all LCDs backlit so that is important for me. As for good Aastra phones, there in no external power adapter. Snoms are expensive. ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Which IP phones have best voice quality, preferably under $150
All the phones already have the latest firmware. They keep updating themselves automatically. In my setup of Grandstream phones, all the computers of the network go through the phones, i.e. I am using the builtin phones as swithces. They all have 2 ethernet ports. Does this has to do anything with the voice quality, or do I need to change something in the phones' setup, like switching it from switch to router in basic settings? What is this NAT/Router setting anyways and how should it be setup? ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
